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@Coogar, only one thing I want to react to- the voting.

Logging in with different user names is not so easy. Voting process is very tedious, who the heck will have so much time to vote with different user names?

Whether you are coming from twitter or facebook or any medium, you still have to submit your data to the Manchester United official website (like registry with them). Your email account is required, your names are required, your twitter of FB account is one of the medium you get accepted. Then you fill a questionnaire.

I went through that process before I could vote last season. Funny enough, most of my votes were going to Rafael, Carrick and RVP. Sometimes you are required to take a questionnaire before you vote, some other times it is straight once they have your data. From time to time they send articles to my email about the club. There are times you are required to participate in a survey which test your knowledge of the club, its sponsors, its players, and other questions too which are peculiar to your location, employment and income.

So if there will be multiple voting, that person must have been really idle or jobless to put in so much effort into such. It means the person will have to have multiple unlinked email accounts, then he will also have multiple identity in the social forums that are being used to collate these data, and finally he will have to so cleverly submit and align his multiple personality to the Man United website.

coogar: the people here are just looking for scape goats. a poor general performance by the team is an excuse some fans need to pull out their daggers and stab their least favourite players in the team. i dunno why young is ab easy target but he did superbly well in my opinion. some fans were even pissed it was young that got subbed instead of ryan giggs.


it was a standard anfield performance!
even when we had a solid team in 08, we lost at anfield. we lost there in 09/10 and 10/11. our performance at anfield has no bearing on the league title. i wouldn't read much to that loss - we actually played better last night than we did last season when we won there.



i don't expect any consistency till october. united are notorious for not starting well & the fergie factor has left us. 50-50 decisions that go our way before are now being overruled by the refs. lampard's handball the other night would have been a pen if fergie was the manager but referees don't fear moyes. then the ref last night gave liverpool every 50-50 decision as they were the home team. he does not fear moyes!




i thought we have dropped baines as a target - we only need fellaini!

No one here has blamed young for the goal. Mistakes can happen.

It's just the way he played generally that we are worried about. He is not is not being made the scapegoat. Blames have been apportioned to Cleverly, Giggs, Jones and a few more players. Even Vidic, Welbeck and Ferdinand had their fair share.

Moving away from that: 1. Man of the match fans award is said to be favouring one of Vidic, Evra and Welbeck.

2. We have Nani, Anderson, Kagawa and Chicharito who can bring their own into boosting the team in subsequent games. We are are only watching a new United team evolve under Moyes. May be we should be more patient as some already suggest.

Yesterday, Moyes said he is okay with his squad but he will continue to see how he can bring in addition before the close of transfer.

hmmmm, I like his confidence sha.

chrisley024: Abeg forget that stats cos this is a game i watched. An attacker that did dribble pass how many?. Passes to Evra? Evra did penetrate than the so-called attacker. N the two chances were created when? The problem is that we're allowing mediocrity now in United. A player of United standard with such stats is applauded. SMH! Too many average Brits, only good at running around like headless chicken.
Well, my focus today is on our incoming players(that is if we've one).

The maker of that chart should be asked to define what a chance is. It is ridiculous to hear Young created chances and was our best midfield player.

Chicharito created a chance. That is what is called a chance.

Infact this just again undermine the use of stat to analyse football.

afrodoc: makes for interesting reading.
however whoscored.com gave ashley young the 2nd lowest player rating in our team today,only higher than RVP
maybe because young had 0 dribbles, 0 shot on target, and just 1 accurate cross from NINE attempts!

As of yesterday, I could guess that Coogar was going to pull out stat this morning.

Now, after I saw a stat chart suggesting Young was good yesterday, I have made up my mind never to give any credit to such again. Infact no need to look at stat. Ashley young was a winger, he couldn't get past his marker to make a clever cross or a pass to the box. He balloon corner kicks over the 18 box into empty spaces on the far right. He always got stuck or caught in his attempt to dribble, then he will turn and make a back pass after delaying the ball. Welbeck was able to make some dribble into the box from the left. Valencia got past Liverpool defence from the right about twice.

The only time Giggs should play, is if he is needed in the left flank. He has no energy again to play in the middle. The midfield ball battle and forceful runs up and down in the EPL is beyond a 40 years old. Even Pirlo wont survive the speed of the EPL. We saw Pirlo struggle in the confederation cup against speeding and power playing teams.

Shinji #Kagawa is yet to feature for Manchester United under David #Moyes and it was believed that it was because of a lack of match fitness following an intense pre-season.

But Moyes has confirmed that the Japanese playmaker was fit today to play against Liverpool and that he chose to leave him out of the squad to give #Nani a place on the bench.

When questioned about whether Kagawa’s absence was down to match fitness, Moyes said: ”I just thought today you know, I thought today that I might have needed Nani at some time in the game.

“They are both sort of similar as far as fitness goes at levels so I just thought I might need him, as it was we did, to bring him on later on.” (Source: thepeoplesperson.com, 101greatgoals.com) #mufc #mufs

[quote author=Mr_TA]Excuse me? What have I done? [/quote]Is that your name? I was referring to a certain winger United bought some years back but he never lived up to bookmakers ratings.

Some of those waka pass players.

dademola: forwards wif such qualities as der strengths r cherished in clubs like west ham, sunderland and birmingham. I support man utd. U??

I usually do not jump into conclusion about players.

Welbeck and Chicharito are players I am watching their development. Kagawa appears to be one of them too. If not for Kagawa's past record in Germany, I would have sent him to the league of Tosin, Obertan, Bebe, Macheida and co. But now you guys are making me feel he is a big guy who deserve a starting place. On facebook too, there is a division as to what he is capable of.

So I just sit don dey look first. But he was very poor in the preseason. That may already have made Moyes to form an opinion about him.

Villas-Boas in post match interview confirms Bale is off to Madrid.

dademola: welbeck was his usual "sunderland standard" today. Sending him back der wnt be a bad idea..though i'd like it to be on a permanent basis

His speed and energy is highly needed in that frontline.

I can't wait for our next fixture. If only we would be playing tomorrow.

[quote author=sir.law]I just heard dat the Felaini deal will be completed tomorrow with Jesse Lingard going to Everton on a season long loan as part of the deal...[/quote]By this time tomorrow, all rumours would have been laid to rest. Then we will face reality.

dademola: young wasnt poor.. He was just being d playa he has alws been for us; AVERAGE!! To think we hav giggs, young, cleverly and welbeck as "important playas" in a club like ours?? I now see y oda big clubs no longa fear us.

Was Welbeck that bad?

Vidic, Welbeck, Evra, Valencia were not that bad.

Then Nani looks promising again. He should be played regularly. Chicharito made himself available for passes.

Does anyone know what happened to Kagawa?

This was a good opportunity to have let him express himself. Is he injured? Was he poor in training? Was it a tactical decision?

I want to be able to see what he can offer.

SailorXY: This was a very 'winnable' fixture, save for poor team selection which we were accustomed with during Fergie's latter days, & it seem to be spilling onto Moyes' path

The selection was okay. Only Giggs ought not to have started. But again, Young was as poor as Giggs.

Ashley Young was very very very poor today.

[quote author=Mr_TA]Maybe you haven't been watching united play for long. We've ha many similar performances under Fergie. Especially at anfield.[/quote]Not true. This was like a school team. We lost possession so cheaply. Much of urgency without accuracy or maturity.

chamotex: Knee jerk reaction!
We played better than Liverpool overall so it's not the worst of performances.
It was crap most times but just wasn't good enough.
If you have not seen us play worse than this then maybe you are not a United fan as I thought.

I just hate this whole if this one had played or that one had played we would have won bollocks cos that's just childish.
Anfield has been a tough ground for us and most times the teams that played better don't usually win.
Giggs should not have started but that's gone now - let's move on as we usually do.
We are United - we always bounce back.

Giggs should retire. Anderson should have played in his place. Then we should have had the triangle midfield of Cleverly, Carrick and Anderson. At least there should have been someone to be given the ball who could have held it a little for further strategy. Nani added a little bit of that despite being match rusty. Chicharito also added some options even though he too gave away some possessions.

coded guy: My problem was the attitude of the plays. Everyone from cleverly, Rio, Vidic, cleverly were just too lackadaisical for my liking. Even if we need re enforcement, the likes of Baines and fellaini are not the people that would give this team any significant boost.

Am just not impressed with the way we played, not even the loss cause we can lose and one would still be impressed and see that this was just a bleep, but this performance was a disgrace.

I don't like the performance at all. Cleverly was always looking to pass back.

chamotex: So all the games that Rooney played at Anfield previously, we didn't lose.
Oh I forgot he is a god. If he doesn't play - we can't win.
This is pathetic coming from you

I am not even looking at result. There was no stability.

I have never watched Man United played this way. We couldn't retain the ball for more than 30 seconds.

What happened to Kagawa sef?

He probably was the only one else who could have stabilise our game.

Our game lacked stability today. That's all. We were lucky to have gotten away against Swansea with this school football. It will not work against big teams.

[quote author=A-40]Even with Rooney you guys played shyte! I don't recall yall creating clear chances apart from a lot of long range shots! No creativity and your much vaunted wingplay has regressed badly! No dynamism no quality balls being delivered nothing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-KpA9D5m2s[/quote]The Chelsea game was a million miles better than this. After the Chelsea game, I had hope in our team. But toady's game crashed all of that.

coogar: we played better than liverpool.....
it's just that there were many passengers in this game today. cleverley & carrick were rubbish, rio/vidic were too pedestrian in taking the ball out of our half....

we should be fine, let's get the difficult games out of the way and we should be coasting from next week after the city game. the fixtures haven't been kind to us at all but this is united - we don't need to start well to win the league!

Is this not what I have always accused Vidic and Ferdinand of? I have always said Jones, Smalling and Evans push the ball out faster, but no one would agree with me.

chamotex: Can you get your mouth off Rooney's testicles already?
Is he paying your school fees?
Rooney is the reason we lost abi? How childish?
Don't come here and be yarning rubbish.
I dey vex right now abeg.

When last did we play so poorly? Forget about the result.

Can't you see the missing link was non availability on someone who could hold on to the ball in the attacking midfield?

You also have to consider the build up comments to matches. Someone here said if Welbeck plays behind RVP, United would beat Liverpool. Let's be mindful of our comments and not just talk for sentiments sake.

Is this the small 'shidren' futbol some guys have been calling for? Welbeck played behind RVP and what has happend now? I can guess RVP did touch d ball up to 25 times. Carrick, Cleverly had no one to link up with who will help retain the ball. Infact I just watched a school team. If we play the top 4 like this, we are finished.

[quote author=A-40]Loooool no be only hub na hubby! The team is generally clueless but based on Rooney's game on Monday odds are he wouldn't have made any difference

Young,Valencia,Giggs,Cleverley,Welbeck you guys need to discharge those average players

Ashley Young cannot even deliver a decent corner kick smh[/quote]look @ the poor standard of our game, compare it to what we played agaist Chelsea. Only Valencia and Nani now making sense. I dey vex jor.

The hub is clearing missing- Rooney. No one to hold the ball & cordinate. Except De Gea, Vidic & Valencia, everyone else has been clueless.

Manchester #United Lineup: De Gea; Jones, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra; Carrick, Cleverley; Young, Giggs, Welbeck; van Persie

Substitutes: Lindegaard; Smalling, 28. Büttner; Anderson, Nani, Valencia; Hernandez

Is this the correct line up? Where is Kagawa?

afrodoc: and elampiro and fabville pls lets discuss the match at hand instead of rehashing United's admittedly glorious past.

having said that i think fab and ander are correct

oya with dt outta d way what u guys think abt today's match

Fabville is a trouble maker. From his alleged 4-4-2 he jumped to 4-5-1 then 4-2-3-1. Then he is now suggesting United had a different formation in Europe after he had been found out.

FOLYKAZE: Can somebody tell this european slave that the so called slave masters in disguist of missionary men dont discriminate against gay? How is grown men choice of enjoying their s.exual pleasure your own headache?

Bro you cant do more than your slave masters.....are you going to kill your ancestors or non-believing friends because your slave masters wrote it as instruction in the buy-bull...common emancipate yourself from this mental slavery...just live and let others live.

It is not a matter of discrimination but a matter of obeying God's laws.

Like in the days of Noah, God is sending His prophet to warn the world again that the world should repent. But the people of the world (particularly the west) are now so blind.

Fabville: Are these 4-3-3? All these are 4-5-1/4-2-3-1 and they are all in Europe. How can you sat these are 4-3-3? I am done with this.

It's 4-3-3.

Look at the strikers combination with the midfield.

Haba!