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People should also understand that to even see BBA on DSTV, yu have to activate the channel by texting a certain code. If you don't activate it, you won't even see the BBA channel even if you have subscribed to DSTV. All the controls and censors are fair enough. If there is any sex, I is taken off and hidden in the VIP section of the website.

If we want to talk about immorality in our movies, then there is a long way to go. All those musical videos from D banj, Terry G, Iyanya, Davido, Ducan Mighty, etc which are worse than BBA should first be censored. All their scenes showing semi unclad girls in bikini or bra and pants or micro mini skirts or bump or 'leggis' without top covering should be edited henceforth. Then they move from there and hit nollywood and gollywood, etc etc etc.

adorable29: Wait O! Those that are analyzing d show here and there nd saying what what what (Melvin's voice). How do u know so much about the show that you can be so quick to castigate it? I ask becos to watch it, you have to go the extra mile of unlockin the code b4 d channel is accessible. To me its like watchin a movie whr there are bad and good guys. Pple with good nd bad morals. The psychology of various African cultures and to some extent d behaviorial attitudes nd inner workings of the human mind. The show to me is an educational "case study". Its funny dat I that watches d show every now nd den haven't seen the sex scene btw beverly nd Angelo but some of u that are callin thunder have seen it. Should I call this hypocrisy? I personally totally don't lik Beverly's personality(a whole lot of pple don't) but d reality is gals lik her does exist. I watch d show wen I Ħª√ę d chance nd I have NEVER seen a sex scene.... The amount of indecency I hav see in all d time I have watched it cannot be compared to just one Nicki Minaj's music video. So Wats all ds exaggeration abt.. Infact d guys (especially) are sooo decent, its amazin how dey can hold Konji 4 3months wit all those pretty gals ard them 24/7. You guys that are here ll fall within 3days if u were in their shoes...LOL... Am typin too much jare. Anyway, its ur opinion and you are entitled to it@poster.

Exactly. I have followed BBA for 5 years and I doubt if I have seen a live sex there. Yet people who don't watch it circulate clips from the VIP section of the BBA website.

You also said it well, you get to understand more human bahaviour and culture across Africa.

Compared to our Naija musical videos, BBA is a decent show.

specco: Most of these people who are drooling for BBA will certainly stop watching this filth if it's properly censored and all the amorous scenes and lewd acts removed. They get their kick from these obscene scenes. BBA is filth.

BBA is highly censored. Most of the videos you see circulating are from the BBA website VIP section. Same people who pay to have access to VIP contents are same people criticizing BBA and circulating those materials.

EmmyDe25: My problem is the show title. They should please remove the 'Africa' tag frm it and stop projecting us to the whole world in such a bad light.

There is Big brother Europe, big brother brazil, etc. It's everywhere. Big brother Africa is a saint compared to the foreign ones. Over there it is unclad competition among the mates. Most times the foreign version housemates don't even wear bikini when they go swimming and their bathrooms and locker rooms are showed live uncensored.

I beg read wide before you post.

Anyone who watches musical videos (local or foreign) and criticize big brother Africa is a hypocrite.

People sound as if BBA is about sex. The concept is just to get adults into a house for 91 days and see how they live, behave, relate while every move they make is showed. Some fall in love, some are weak and fall into sex whereas there are much more housemates who never fell into sex or even love.

The few housemates who get intimate in the house usually hide under the sheet and the TV changes from that scene. Such immoral scenes are made into video and put into the BBA website for those interested to pay with credit card to watch. When the season close, the sites too is usually closed immediately such that the videos are taken offline.

I have followed BBA from season 4, the most explicit content I do see is girls occasionally in bikini. You see worse whenever you watch a musical clip. So why the noise? Last season I never for once saw a sex scene in all the 91 days. This season I have not also seen any sex scene, only people who stay glue to the Channel 24/7 for 91 days are capable of catching these scenes which mostly happen late nights. What will one gain to stay up late nights for 91 days just to see if you will see two adults enter under the blanket and watch it shaking? All these BBA sex clips circulating are gotten by those lust filled beings who pay via credit card to watch them, then again criticize after watching.

Nigerian housemates who never got intimate in the house from season 4.

1. Kevin, winner of season 4 never did it. ... Kevin is happily married to his season's BBA mate, beautiful Elizabeth from Tanzania. They have kids.

2. Uti, winner of season 5

3. Karen, winner of season 6

7. Goldie. Fell in love but never had sex there. Also the other two Nigeria guys who went to same BBA with Goldie. Ola and his friend.

8. This year, so far I have not heard of inappropriate behaviour from Melvin. Although our girl Berverly needs deliverance. It is obvious she needs help to overcome the spirit of Jezebel in her.

BBA is just a show in its own dimension, it is not about immoral intimacy. Majority of the mates do not get intimate in the 91 days they spend there.

Sleep.

coogar: he did not - he had a hopeless season. only his offensive stats were good. his defensive stats were horrible. i remember arguing this topic with dayokanu in 2012. i would look for the thread later. song was more dribbled, more dispossessed and conceded more goals than his peers....

No need for long argument, incase you get the stat let's see.

If he was poor as you say, why did Barca buy him?

Lastly, the Song I knew at Arsenal was a guy who chased opponents till he causes confusion. Just as Fletcher used to do. Beat Fletcher, Smalling and Jones they will chase you to hell. Jones will catch you again before you get to the box.

Perhaps the reason Carrick and Mikel may not have had two many dribbles from opponents is that they shadow mark and sit with defenders, which gives too much room for opponents to use the ball. I for one prefer a Luis in DM to Mikel. If you beat Luis, he will chase you into trouble. You may even beat him but find yourself not able to utilize the ball meaningfully again.

coogar: song was the reason arsenal's defence was weak - he vacates his position to join in the attack - he's not disciplined positionally.......he's a super liability. players like carrick, mikel, busquets should be applauded for never getting carried away to join the attack and open the back door for opponents to do damage.

Forget the goals conceded jor. After all United had same problem between 2002 and 2005 with kean, Scholes and Giggs in our midfield.

Song defended far more than his EPL peers in DM. The guy had a superlative two seasons.

coogar: you just bandy statistics without really understanding what it means. if song is a defensive midfielder, why is he making up to 11 assists?

arsenal conceded 49 league goals that season - 3 more than sunderland that finished 13th on the table. where was alex song when those goals were conceded? didn't they lose home/away to united that season when song escorted a united player into his own box & ball-watching?

a defensive midfielder must first complete his primary objective of shielding his back four before adding bonuses like assists & goals to his armoury. song failed his primary objective, what he does when he goes forward is irrelevant....he's not supposed to be doing those if his own defence is leaky.

this is like putting a point that rooney makes more tackles than john terry. should rooney be tackling or scoring? alex song is garbage. mikel obi is 5 times better than alex song. carrick, lucas, scott parker, etc are all better than alex song.

Everyone following premier league knew Song wass a defensive midfield, a good tackler, a ball winner and a good controller of the ball. You only have to look at the team he played in when considering tthe number of goals conceded. The Arsenal defense was weak that season and they had a keeper coming up the ladder. You mentioned this weakness of the Arsenal team when I said RVP stats were poor when compared to Rooney, Berbatov, Chicha and Welbeck.

dademola: xabi alonso is a hard tackling dmf. Even a tennis fan knws dis!!! It shudnt be up for debate!! He intercepts, bt dt doesnt take away d fact dt his tackling abilities r well documented. Alex song is damn too static to play alongside carrick. He sits too deep, and prefers to orchestrate play frm d base of midfield. He aint a midfield "dictator" or "orchestrator" dt is alws hungry for d ball in MF. D problem i hav with song is his mobility. He aint mobile enof IMO. Look at d schweni/ martinez combo. Martinez is d passive one, just like carrick, wile bastian is d vibrant one... alws getting involved and all. With a modric, i see no reason y our MF wnt even be betta dan thiers.

2011/2012 Alex Song

EPL 34 appearances , 11 assists.
UCL 9 appearances, 2 assists
FA cup 3 apperances, 1 assists.

Total 1 goal, 14 assists.

Which of our midfielders has come up with 11 EPL assists? It is Barca that want to kill this guy. He is rotting away there.

I watched this guy two season before he left for Barca, you could bet he will dispossess his opponent whenever he chased after a ball. He also used the ball well maturely. He was strong on the ball and hardly gave it away coupled with the fact that he was creative.

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2011/12 Player Review: Alex Song
"First of all, if you asked Alex, 'do you want to attack or defend?', he would say attack," says manager Arsène Wenger. "He is naturally a guy who tends to go forward and he always had good vision."
Alex Song is arguably the most defensive of Arsenal's midfielders - but he earned more plaudits for his attacking play last season.
Eleven assists in the league and a further three in other competitions tells its own story and the highlights will be familiar to every Arsenal fan.
Robin van Persie's glorious volley against Everton? Thierry Henry's fairytale goalscoring return against Leeds? Van Persie's late winner at Anfield? All crafted by Song with style.
Alex was one of the first names on Arsène Wenger's teamsheet throughout the campaign. Indeed, only two players made more appearances - Wojciech Szczesny and Van Persie.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/2011/12-player-review-alex-song

dademola: atleast u'd agree scholes/carrick once dominated. Bar jones, d playrs u mentioned made d team not cos dey kld tackle. Hargo was even versatile and cld even take freekicks. Ando was in d team cos he was creative, and not cos he had d ability to jump into 50/50 tackles. Fletcher wasnt a tackler, bt was very hardworking and had an impressive energy level. Baba, gone r d days of teams playing a vidic in DMF, all in d name of tackling. Even alonso( d toughest tackling DMF in europe IMO), is a 1st teamer by virtue of his exclellent passing range and also cos he takes set pieces, and even scores d odd goal. Instead of looking for a "tackling" midfielda, i'd rada go for a "vibrant" and mobile one with an excllent passing range, who likes to get involved, and is alws available for a pass; one who generally likes to boss things in d middle of d park...like scholes and modric. A modric/carrick combo wld be reminiscent of d scholes/carrick partnership, and shud even be betta, now dt carrick has peaked. If by chance we nid a tackler in certain games, jones dey dia. Like cooger rightly pointed out anyways, positioning is a betta virtue compared to tackling, anyways. Rio wld tell u tackling is more like a last ditch effort to atone for one's poor positioning.

First you don't get me. I think Song was a better marker and creator than Carrick while he was in Arsenal. That is the kind of midfielder we need to compliment Carrick. Song can win tackles, he is hard to beat and also he uses the ball well.

I don't see Alonso as that kind of a player. Alonso tries to intercept passes, the reason Mourinho used Pepe to destroy in some matches. Even while in Liverpool, it was Mascherano who did the dirty work there, then Alonso was throwing long passes like Sunder Oliseh.

Modric was successful so much in Totteham because of the other guys who played with him in the midfield. They killed for him to use.

coogar: stop lying to us jare - what's so hatchet about xavi, iniesta and busquets? they are just good passers and they intercept passes instead of going for hard tackles....when did cesc/song join barcelona that you are adding them in the mix? cesc/song have not won a champions league title with barcelona....mascherano plays as a defender for them and it was sergio busquets that chased yaya toure away from camp nou.


barcelona do not use a hatchet man - which renders your point null & void.



yet it was giggs/carrick that destroyed chelsea, schalke, etc in the champions league that season. gibson is not a defensive midfielder. he saunters forward even more than carrick and he's never been a regular.



JS park was used mostly as a winger when he's here - he basically did what welbeck is doing. the only time he was used to curb a menace was against ronaldinho in 2009/10 season against milan.



darren fletcher hardly featured in the knock out stage of the champions league that season. he played a total of 19 mins from the quarter final stage till the final.

I am not here for a long argument on this. What I know is those midfield players in Barca are far more hard markers than our guys. Even Busquet who looks the weakest doesn't take things easy once the ball is in their own third. He chases with speed and energy and slides like Jones. I have never seen Carrick done a sliding tackle. The Barca boys are even many times more likely to win loose balls or 50:50 balls than our players.

As for United beating Chelsea in 2011, I can't remember the exact formation. But I remember Giggs dribbling past Bosigwa from the left wing for Rooney's goal. He also created for Chicharito in the 2nd leg. It looks to me that it was a three man midfield of Carrick, JS Park and Giggs with Giggs being the one who pushed forward more. I can't be too sure, but his assists and much work on the left suggest that.

coogar: as at 2011, giggs and carrick destroyed city, chelsea and spurs. they destroyed all the teams in europe except barcelona. guardiola's barcelona had no hatchet man and they won the treble. spain had no hatchet man when they won the world cup in 2010 & euro 2012.

Barca midfielders are tough tacklers even sometimes commit several fouls. Xavi, Bousquet, and who ever the third person is (Fab or Song) are hard to be beaten to 50:50 balls, they win more aerial balls than opponents and coupled with the fact that they cease the ball for eternity once they have it. Carrick, Cleverly and Anderson are all soft markers (Anderson wasn't like this before), they hardly win tackles and weak in aerial midfieled battles. 50-50 balls too they are poor. They allow opponents too much room too much time t run them around width to width.

In 2011 I thought we still had Fletcher, JS Park and Gibson.

Gibson was a tough marker. He battled for every loose balls and did well in 50:50 balls. JS Park was a hard worker and a big game player. He combined well with team mates in the middle and in attacking build up. JS Park- Giggs- Carrick-Rooney were capable of locking the ball away while plotting a swift attack.

Fletcher covers so much space the pitch and raised his game on big days. He was not easily beaten just like Jones. Fletcher will chase you and interrupt you till you get confused. He easily won 50:50 balls and you have to forget it if it was an aerial battle. He had vital goals from his head.

dademola: cant seem to find a tackling MF in carrick/scholes combo dt bossed teams both in d EPL and in europe..

When last did Scholes/Carrick dominate teams like Man City, Chelsea and Totteham not to talk of Europe? In the later days, SAF had to add Jones or fletcher in big games. The good days had Hagreaves or agile Anderson in some big games.

Pre planned. Planned work.

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1. Does the bid for Baines not suggest Evra is not good enough? It looked like he has improved defensive wise.

2. Fellani stuff looks like a gamble. He might lift us, he might end up not really a value addition. Won't he even slow our game? Coupled with Carrick's slow game already it might just be a wrong signing.

3. I don't see Modric as a solution. The solution. Will be someone who will sit with Carrick, win tackles there and link up with fowards. Modric will be useful sitting on the arrow of three man midfield. Bring Modric, we will still need a ball winner. Look at the way those guys were tearing Madrid midfield yesterday.

Truly, I like Song. Song can win the ball and use it. Ball winning in the midfield was lacking against Swansea, although our defence line played too deep again leaving a wild gulf for chasing. Valencia did well in helping out.

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Chicharito rejected Valencia's approach- his agent confirms.

Everton have not said they won't sell.

Wenger said the money isn't the problem for them this time, but finding the right players. Looks like no club wants to be a selling club again. RVP opened everybody's eyes.

Swansea's Striker, Michu has hailed Robin van Persie as the best striker in the world after watching the Dutchman tear Swansea apart and gave Moyes a perfect start.

Michu: "For me, Robin van Persie is the best striker in the world. He'd no clear chances and it is just incredible he ended up with 2 goals against us."

"I don't know how many goals he will score this season. Maybe a Hundred.. or a thousand! One thing is for sure, he's going to score a lot."

Bid for Baines and Fellani rejected? Any credible source?

Many people were surprised when Pope Francis appeared to set a new tone on the church’s relationship with gays, telling reporters, “If homosexuals accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn’t be marginalized.”

In a church that continues to hold homosexual behavior to be a sin, his remarks on July 29 have left many local parish priests, the Catholic Church’s boots on the ground, wondering how to mesh his comments with their experiences in Rhode Island, which has just legalized gay marriage and where a startling number of Catholics now believe it’s OK for a couple to live together without getting married.

“When I was in seminary, these issues weren’t even on the radar,” says the Rev. David Thurber, pastor of St. Teresa of the Child Jesus Parish in Pawtucket, who was ordained in 2008. The Rev. John E. Unsworth, who was ordained in 1976 and is now pastor of St. Bernard Parish in North Kingstown, agrees. “Of course, when I was in seminary,” says the Wickford priest, “they didn’t teach us how to balance a checkbook, either.”

Some of the topical questions facing priests now: Should they deny communion to an unmarried couple who lives together? Should they tell gay couples that their lives are disordered and they should refrain from Communion or go elsewhere? Or should they welcome the couples with open and forgiving arms?

Interviews with Catholic priests around the state suggest most have a good idea as to what to say or do, even while they may disagree among themselves about the best approach. Most, however, are inclined toward following the lead of the new pope, even when they feel they must “speak the truth in love.”

Today, Father Thurber says he understands that “everyone is in a different spot in their place with God,” and so he tries to meet people where they are. When couples who have been living together come to see him about getting married, he says, he extends “an open arm of welcome” and leaves the question as to whether they should receive communion to their consciences and to God.

“I am not in the business of denying Communion,” he says flatly. “As Pope Francis said, it’s not fair to judge. I preach the Gospel, and whoever hears it, hears it.” But when he was asked what he would tell gay couples who request Communion, Father Thurber said he would tell them to take that question to the bishop.

Father Unsworth said he could not remember when a gay couple had come to speak with him about their situation, though he does find himself speaking about cohabitation frequently — usually after he finds that the man and woman preparing for marriage have the same address.

After praising their “courageous decision” to commit to marriage, Father Unsworth says, he tries to remind them that the “standard for moral behavior” is for sexual activity to take place within a marriage so that “God’s procreative work” can continue through them. “It’s the best way to raise a child.”

And if he were to see the couple coming up the Communion line, still unmarried? “I’m not going to stop them. I don’t know if they went to confession that afternoon, and besides, I’m not going to make judgments. We never know the heart of another person unless they share it with us.

“If I were speaking to a gay couple, I would tell them we cannot recognize them as married but they are welcome to come to church. That’s what the Holy Father means when he says we don’t make judgments. We make it possible for them to continue practicing.” Father Unsworth said people should know there is no church rule that says children of same-sex couples can’t be baptized. The sexual orientation of the parents is irrelevant, he says. But the church does not allow gays who are not celibate to serve as godparents.

The Rev. Raymond N. Suriani, pastor of St. Pius X Church in Westerly, says he would tell gay and cohabiting couples the same thing he tells everybody: “If they are in a state of serious sin, they shouldn’t receive Communion. That’s not just me saying it. It’s what the Scriptures say.” And he wouldn’t hesitate, he says, to tell gay couples what the church teaches about s*xuality. “I have to help them form their consciences properly. The challenge is to speak the truth in love. What they do with that knowledge is up to them as human beings who will one day stand before God.”

The Rev. Paul Desmarais, pastor of St. Mary Church in Charlestown, says he also usually discovers that a couple have been living together when they come to him with wedding plans. It’s then, he says, that he’ll remind them that “they are living in sin, and the first thing they need to do is confess that.” He also suggests that one of them move out while they continue the wedding plans. Couples are more ready to accept his advice when they have a good relationship with him and feel they can be open with him, he finds. “We can’t slam the door in their face, but try to help them see what the church expects of them.”

The Rev. Charles R. Grondin, pastor of Blessed Sacrament Parish in Providence, said that when he speaks to cohabiting couples, his focus is on getting them back to Mass. “I don’t spend a lot of time talking about fornication. That horse has already left the barn.” Nor does he try to pick out the people in his parish he thinks may be gay or cohabiting. “There’s nothing to be gained trying to investigate people’s lives for no reason. That would be an endless black hole.”

He also sees no need to advise certain couples about Communion, since the rules for all are already spelled out in the church’s missalette. Any Catholic who is in “serious sin” is not to go to Communion until his sins have been forgiven in confession, the rules say. Father Grodin added that in his 10 years as a priest, no one has approached him to tell him he or she is in a gay relationship and to ask if it would be OK to receive communion. His answer, he says, would be no. “But I couldn’t conceive of why anyone would say that to me unless it was to be provocative.”

[b]And to provoke is what some believe was a motivating factor in a reported incident involving Lew Pryeor, a gay-marriage supporter who ran for the state Senate in 2012, and the Rev. Brian Sistare, the recently named pastor of Sacred Heart Parish in Woonsocket. Neither Sistare nor Pryeor could be reached for comment, but they have exchanged volleys over the Internet, with Pryeor saying that Father Sistare was the first priest to tell him he could not receive Communion because he and his husband were married in Canada seven years ago. Father Sistare, he says in Facebook postings, is more a politician than priest who should be removed because of his attacks on Governor Chafee and other Democrats who have supported gay marriage. Father Sistare, for his part, wrote in a blog titled “Proud to be Catholic”: “Being a Catholic priest faithful to the teachings of Jesus Christ, … I’m considered ‘intolerant’ when I stand up for these Teachings, especially when it comes to the protection of innocent life in the womb or preserving the sacredness of marriage between one man and one woman.[/b]

Yet the same people who accuse the Catholic Church for being intolerant usually are the most intolerant themselves.” The Rev. Roman Manchester, pastor of Our Lady of Good Help in Burrillville, said he too has spoken from the pulpit against gay marriage and learned that he’s lost some parishioners because of it. He says he wishes that those who slipped away had taken a different approach, one used by two other active parishioners who struggled with what he had to say and decided to speak to him. “They came to me, and we had a very good discussion. I can’t say they agreed with me, but they are still active in the parish. I wish more people would do that. I’d like to hear from people who disagree. I don’t bite.” On cohabitation, Father Manchester says he will tell a couple it is a mortal sin for which they need to confess and receive forgiveness.

He’ll also recommend that a couple separate until they are married but says he wouldn’t ask that of a couple who’s been living together for many years and has children. “In that case, I’d ask that they abstain from sexual relations until they are married. I think most of the couples are willing to accept that.” [b]Roman Catholic Bishop Thomas J. Tobin said Tuesday that there are probably as many opinions among the priests of the Diocese of Providence as there are priests, but he generally trusts that pastors who know their people will make the right decisions. [/b]http://www.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/content/20130817-r.i.-priests-try-to-interpret-popes-remarks-on-gays.ece

Will £300K/week salary for 4 years lure Rooney away? The temptation here is the 4 years condition. Which footballer wouldn't want to receive £300k until he is 32 years

Will United sell at £40m? I guess no. We need to strengthen and not weaken the team. This transfer window should close now to end all these bids and speculations.

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Chelsea line up final £40m Rooney bid
August 18, 2013


Chelsea are reportedly preparing to launch a final bid of £40 million for Wayne Rooney within the next two days.

Jose Mourinho has made it clear that he sees Rooney as the last piece of his Chelsea puzzle, and wants him as his No. 9. Owner Roman Abramovich is prepared to offer Rooney a four-year deal with wages of £300,000 a week.

However David Moyes remains adamant he will not sell Rooney, who provided two assists in United's 4-1 win at Swansea after coming on for Ryan Giggs in the 62nd minute.

And if Chelsea cannot change United's stance, they are set to switch their attentions from Rooney to Robert Lewandowski, the Borussia Dortmund striker.

Lewandowski has one year remaining on his contract at Dortmund, who blocked the striker's attempts to emulate Mario Gotze in leaving this summer for Bayern Munich.

However Chelsea are hopeful of securing their first-choice target. The club believe the bumper fee will convince United owners the Glazer family that it is in their best interests to sell Rooney.

The Glazers would be unlikely to command such a high fee for Rooney after the transfer window closes as he has just two years left on his contract.
Mourinho is believed to be desperate to land Rooney, however Chelsea think Dortmund would definitely sell Lewandowski at the same price - and would much prefer to see him leave for England than to join rivals Bayern, who defeated them in last season's Champions League final, for free next summer. Lewandowski would have to be persuaded to leave Germany, though.

Samuel Eto'o, who won the treble under Mourinho at Inter in 2010, is also being considered by Chelsea as a short-term solution up top.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/230961.html

Carrick tried, but the fact that he is a soft player hasn't changed. If only he could tackle more. However, he remains our best.

Evra looks better defensively than before and now he crosses the ball instead of trying to run into the box or make a pass.

ayobase: I thought that passage is meant for only Peter (Pope) and not the others.

This one you are saying only the priests have the power to withhold and forgive sin!

Who is the mediator between we and God?
Priests?
Pope?
Jesus?

I guess u haven't read your bible to the part that says "confess your sins to one another"



Baptising by/with water, where have u seen sprinkling of water besides immersion in the Bible.

Water baptism means being dead and resurrected with Christ. The immersion means being buried!

How does sprinkling of water mean being buried!

Its obvious we are parallel lines, arguing over this wouldn't yield any result.

Case closed brother!

God helps us all to understand his words....to see beyond the Logo. Amen!

1. The passage is meant for Peter and the other apostles. Peter was only their head.

John 20:20-23
After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.

Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

2. When the bible said confess to one another, it didn't empower us to forgive the sins of one another. It was more like saying confess your sins (weakness) to your fellow christians so that they can pray for you to come out of such sins.

James 5:16
New International Version (NIV)
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

3. Baptism: Bible said baptized with water. Even when Jesus was baptized in the river, the passage didn't give any instruction that people should be immersed in river.

Matthew 3:13-17
The Baptism of Jesus


Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. But John tried to deter him, saying, “I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?”

Jesus replied, “Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfil all righteousness.” Then John consented.

As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”

italo: The verse is talking about Peter.

Eliakim, son of Hilkiah, was master of the palace, the prime minister in the Davidic kingdom. (Isa 22:15,20)
Simon Peter, son of Jonah, is always first in lists of Jesus’ Apostles—while Judas is listed last. (Matt 16:17, Matt 10:2, Mark 3:16. Luke 6:14, Acts 1:13)

Eliakim’s predecessor, Shebna, had hewn a tomb in a great rock which he hoped would be a lasting a resting place. (Isa 22:16)
Simon Peter is declared to be the “rock” (“Petros”) upon which Jesus will build his Church. (Matt 16:18)

Eliakim was clothed with a robe and girded with a sash. (Isa 22:21)
Peter stretches out his hands to be dressed by another. (John 21:18)

Eliakim was “a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah.” (Isa 22:21)
Peter is the pope (“papa” or “Holy Father”) to the Church on earth.

Eliakim was given authority, “the key of the House of David.” (Isa 22:22)
Peter is given “the keys to the kingdom of heaven.” (Matt 16:19)

The Lord said of Eliakim, “What he opens, no one will shut, what he shuts, no one will open.” (Isa 22:22)
Jesus says to Peter, “Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” (Matt 16:19)

Excellent.

Moyes: My job is to win

David Moyes insists it's business as usual at Manchester United after the champions started the Barclays Premier League title defence with a superb 4-1 success at Swansea City.

Some pundits suggested the Reds would face a stern examination in South Wales in Moyes' first league game in charge with many predicting an upset. However, braces by Robin van Persie and Danny Welbeck ensured a perfect opening day for the club.

"In the dressing room, it's quiet as they tell me it's what they do here," he insisted. "Move on to the next game and that's what I'm going to do as well.

"You always want to win your game - when you're manager of Manchester United your job is to win the games. I was made well aware of it.

"The players done it today and did really well. I thought Swansea had a lot of the ball but any team who does come down here will find they will have a lot of the ball and pass it well. They're very well managed under Michael Laudrup and they've improved the squad so I've no doubt they'll do well this year."I think anybody who comes here will be made to work really hard. We had to work hard as we had periods where we didn't have a great deal of the ball.

"But we limited them to very few opportunities and we made incisive, telling passes and got in for opportunities. More importantly, they were really good finishes by the forward players and a brilliantly-taken first goal by Robin.

"We could've played better at times in the game overall but are more than happy winning here 4-1."

David Moyes was speaking to MUTV and Sky Sports.

Source: Man United official website.

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David Moyes on Wayne Rooney : "Well, Wayne got 65 minutes in the game against Scotland the other night and I felt he could do a job today if he got a chance to come on," added Moyes. "He's not ready yet physically and has not done enough in training but I said that before the England-Scotland game and obviously that hasn't changed much except for him getting a little more match practice. He came on and made a great run for the van Persie goal and played Danny in for his goal so it's good for Wayne to get those minutes on the pitch.

"[Fans' reaction?] Everybody knows good players. When he came on, he showed what a good player he is. Everybody wants those players in the team and we're delighted to have Wayne playing. He's still short of match fitness as he's not played enough football but I thought he looked quite sharp. I thought all the players looked fit and I'm well pleased with them."

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mbulela: what exactly is the point of Anderson and Cleverley?

Carrick is the king of our midfield for now. Recently, it is becoming more obvious that Anderson and Cleverly need Carrick as their bedrock to click.

Deiok: Usually man utd dont perform well on the first day of a new season but this was different. Up Man Utd >>> Up Van Persie >>> Up David Moyes

I think the last time we performed this way on opening day was 2006/7 season. I think it was a 4-1 win at Everton. After which we left Jose Mourinho and his team dreaming of catching us through the season.

montelik: And Welbeck doubles his last season tally in just 90 mins. Also quality assist from Rooney, I am sure Elampiro would query me if I didn't acknowledge Rooney.

I paid so much close attention to Rooney. I think he brings comfort to the attack, he is highly needed. But his work rate was not up to his usual, he didn't chase back vigorously like Welbeck. Overall he brings a stability to the forward in the way he holds the ball, change its direction and runs into positions which brings options.

Full Time.

RVP and Vidic were our best. Carrick, De gea and Evra did well. Valencia stepped up in the second half. Cleverly was not consistent in my assessment. Ferdinand reads the game well but his problem has to be taking on strikers one on one.

Robin Van Persie might end the season with basket full of goals should he get supplies. Possibly the coach substituted him to see how Rooney can carry on alone. Rooney could have had his own chances but for the delay from Evra, Valencia and Welbeck in releasing the balls.

But we shouldn't be carried away by the win, what about those nervous moments? I still see lot of shadow marking. Although it is too early to say, the Midfield of Carrick, Cleverly and Anderson might just be too hot for EPL opponents to deal with. But playing the three of them means some key players will be starting from the bench.

The season has begun, it was a good way to start the season. United started in a manner that will send shivers to the spine of our rivals.

Why did he withdraw RVP?

This is risky.

They are not giving my boy ball.

coogar: rooney is such a fool - why did he drift offside there? it was 3 v 3 and he cocked it up!!



swansea have abandoned tiki-taka for the more direct football. this is not la liga!

did you just say take off ando for cleverley? are we watching the same match?

Welbeck delayed that pass. Not Rooney's fault at all.