European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:38pm On May 31, 2013 |
I dey argue Nani matter for here, he dey enjoy holiday with e babe. lol
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:35pm On May 31, 2013 |
Screwface: Jose Monrinho's impending return back to Chlesea would only make David Moyes job a lot harder. Honestly, I can't wait for the new season which promises to be so much fun. Nervous but anxious! I like Moyes. SAF left at the right time, let Moyes come in with his high paced football. His midfield play is also encouraging. Moyes style of play doesn't allow opponents to relax and have too much time on the ball. It appeals to me.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:25pm On May 31, 2013 |
David De Gea has revealed that he used to be an outfield player before eventually settling into his role as a goalkeeper.
“As a youngster, I played as an outfield player, I was a forward and scored lots of goals but eventually settled on being a goalkeeper. I think I’ve always liked to pass the ball and dribble – in the Spain under-age teams, I used to practise with the ball at my feet.
“And, at a club like United, it’s important to be able to support the team in every way. Playing for United, one of the greatest clubs in the world, is always a source of pride to me, Every time I pull the shirt on, I’m pulling on the history of this club.” (Source: thesportreview.com) |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:57pm On May 31, 2013 |
Monaco has confirmed that the club has reached a deal to sign Radamel Falcao from Atletico Madrid this summer on a five-year deal. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:55pm On May 31, 2013 |
Those good days, perhaps in a carling cup match.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:42pm On May 31, 2013 |
He is still a good team player. ...and don't forget, he starts virtually all the big games.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:41pm On May 31, 2013 |
IYA NGBALI: eyimba would be good for him May be Okomu oil.  He was bad against Ireland, but he was still better than Defoe. Walcot also doesn't know how to pick his man in the 18 box. Chamberlain and old man Lampard did well. Chamberlain did some impressive runs but he has to mature too. I still believe Rooney will come back. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:55pm On May 31, 2013 |
Real Madrid president Florentino Perez has again declared he doesn't want to sell Cristiano Ronaldo. Ronaldo continues to be linked with Manchester United and PSG.
Perez declared: "I'll do everything in my power to renew his contract. He has two years left on his contract, he is the best in the world and would give a boost to the team with him as a leader, as an emblem.
"I would not sell him for €1,000 million (1 billion euros), we are not a selling club. I would like him to be here until the end of his sporting life, it would be perfect.
"He's a winner and he wants to win titles and many Ballon d'Ors. Real Madrid is the right place for him." (Source: Tribalfootball)
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Galatasaray have joined the race for unsettled Luis Nani. Officials from the Turkish club are in England trying to seal a deal for the Portugal winger.
Arsenal and Juventus are also interested but the Turkish champions will meet Nani’s £130,000-a-week wage demand.
Nani, 26, is entering the final year of his current United deal. Meanwhile, Italian champions Juventus enquired about United striker Javier Hernandez but were firmly told the Mexican is not for sale. (Source: Dailystar) |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:14pm On May 31, 2013*. Modified: 12:57pm On May 31, 2013 |
StarBoard: No debo. You're still discrediting them,even if you attempt to reduce their importance. Whatever the level of competition at that time, it was still the best for its time.
Enlighten us, Mr. Intelligent.
Id/iot. Please shut up if you have nothing else to say. Go back to the Old Manchester United threads and see where this "picture" evidence you are trying to force down our throats hasn't been dissected and torn to shreds ages ago before you showed up on these pages with your lifting of articles off known websites.You must feel like a genius in your little mind, but you come across as a fool with an in-grown testicle in his brains. You're still a neophyte. Try harder abeg. You are a compound fool. You talk like a baby, and you should be a student because you obviously do not have a broadened mind and you lack exposure. How does lifting articles an issue in participating in an online forum? So you are telling me that articles in nairaland and including those making front pages are not lifted? For your information, I have been on nairaland long before you knew it existed. So you have nothing to tell me about nairaland. Only heaven knows what you are trying to prove. I am doing my thread stuff yanful yanful someone is dying. You said I should try harder, for what or for who? Is Nicole Scherzingher here or Maria Sharapova or fine babes? You are so dull sha. All the facts being used for arguments here have been known to us for ages, yet are relevant for the purpose for which they are used. So stop hating. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Mob Strip Lady For Indecent Dressing by elampiro(m): 10:25am On May 31, 2013 |
fellis: That's true, even when there is no proof that the victim is guilty (eg ALUU 4), they will still seize the opportunity to strip them nâked. Any small thing, strip nâked. Some of the animals in that video were even fingêring the girl and yet nairaland men are here supporting them because in their twisted minds behaviour like that is ok. It's just a societal ill. There was a certain video that circulated some years ago, a girl was ripped of her clothes completely by girls and women because she stole from their shop. The other day some four gay men were stripped and paraded, also two lesbians stripped and photographed. Like these things happen everyday. It's like people enjoy humiliating fellow human being and looking at unclad bodies. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Mob Strip Lady For Indecent Dressing by elampiro(m): 8:53am On May 31, 2013 |
babyosisi: African men and barbarism Wild savages I bet this was just so they could gawk at the naked body of an innocent woman and grope at her like a pack of wolves When white folks call us subhuman,we protest but daily our people ,especially our men prove them right Try finding a similar story anywhere in the West where an innocent woman on the street is stripped naked A continent where the men ra.pe their women for leisure and the law sets them free Those men deserve death for humiliating and assaulting a woman in that fashion You are correct, they just wanted to see her unclothedness. Another thing, many Africans like humiliation, because men naked men and women too naked women for any slight act of stealing or what looks immoral. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:12am On May 31, 2013 |
Gareth Bale was born to play for Real Madrid, claims president Florentino Perez |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 1:18pm On May 30, 2013 |
Everton star Marouane Fellaini insists that former boss David Moyes has not talked to him about the prospect of joining him at Manchester United.
The 25-year-old Belgian international has pledged his immediate future to the Goodison Park
"He got a good offer and I understood why he accepted it, but he never told me he planned to take me to United. Rumours are part of football and I take them with a pinch of salt. Everyone likes that question about Manchester United, but I know of nothing.
"My destiny is with Everton, it's as simple as that. We're talking about one of the biggest clubs in England, the framework is in place and the manager's departure doesn't change anything. I do miss playing in the Champions League but we deserved to win a place in it this year. We were unlucky, Spurs had a good season as well. But it's clear I am very happy where I am. Everything else is waffle." (Source: skysports.com) |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:54pm On May 29, 2013 |
Manchester United tempt Barcelona with £43m Fabregas & Thiago deal. Manchester United have identified Cesc Fabregas and Thiago Alcantara of Barcelona as the answer to their midfield shortcomings. Former Arsenal captain, Fabregas, could command upwards of £25 million, while Thiago is seen as an £18m option.
Strootman Deal to be announced in couple of Days. [ ESPN ]
Meanwhile, David Beckham is expected to be officially announced as the global ambassador for Manchester United. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:37pm On May 29, 2013 |
StarBoard: And this Ninny wants us to believe he is smart when he can't even get his tenses and phrases in order. The only time you make sense is when you lift off people's work. Oh you mean you read what a supposed ninny wrote even though it didn't have anything to do with you? That supposed ninny must be very special to get you to read his posts and cause you sleepless nights. There is a word for you, the supposed ninny doesn't even read your post except when you respond to his, because he has since noticed that your posts lack substance and any meaning. Wait, you want to debate English? Wow! check well you will discover you know nothing about English language and you just made the supposed ninny to realise your weakness and type. Wait again, who in the right senses will look out for English errors in a casual online informal forum? That again tells the kind of person you are on another level. So it isn't football the supposed ninny doesn't know anymore, it is now English? Has the hate taken you to that level? Who knows what next, may be it would be how many cars? How many qualifications and grade of graduation? How many houses and people sponsored in higher institutions? How fat is the bank account and properties? Please don't let hate cause you high blood pressure, we are here to discuss football. When people leave the topic and start attacking personalities, you know they are already dying and have run out of ideas. Kpele o, sowie. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:22pm On May 29, 2013 |
StarBoard: Genius at work. Peeps on this thread already dissected this incident YEARS ago. You're not telling us anything new, both when you try to be original and when you lift off goal.com So you're still very shallow and imbecilic. Born slowpoke like you thinks everyone uses goal.com or relies on goal.com for information. You obviously think everyone here is trying to impress, so you cannot detect when one uses photograph to buttress his points in discussion. If you are here to impress, keep it up. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:12pm On May 29, 2013 |
StarBoard: Copy and paste. Why not bring out a page supporting your view from goal.com,dailymail.co.uk/sport or telegraph.com? Try harder man. Weak a$$ lines you got there, plagiarism genius. You obviously do not know the meaning of plagiarism. Mr. Argument. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:06pm On May 29, 2013 |
Always well recognised and loved. Manchester United.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:01pm On May 29, 2013 |
Thiago Alcantara is in no hurry to depart Barcelona for Manchester United.
Reports are suggesting that the Man United are keen on the 22-year old midfielder but he says he is only focused on the U21 European Championships with Spain.
"I just live my life and I am very happy, I enjoy it in Barcelona because I have lived through some great times but we will see what happens after the Euros. Any player is used to living with rumours about him and they just cannot affect you." (Source: tribalfootball.com) |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:57pm On May 29, 2013 |
Manchester United current market capitalization in NYSE is 2.86billion. It got to 2.9billion after the EPL title win, and today again it is gaining heavily. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:47pm On May 29, 2013 |
nitlad: Forbes we know, Deloitte we know as well, dafuq is BrandFinance? 
To the garbage with their fraudulent methodology!  Exactly. May be they want to see how they can be allowed into the NYSE. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:45pm On May 29, 2013 |
coogar: this research is garbage - what criteria did this dodgy organisation use? man utd brand as at january was $3 billion. united at $800m? these tools must be crazy!!!
turns out united are twice the value of bayern and then more......bayern? old trafford alone cost more than bayern munich. Exactly. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:44pm On May 29, 2013*. Modified: 4:01pm On May 29, 2013 |
dayokanu: I wonder what elampiro has to say to that http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2332596/Bayern-Munich-overtake-Manchester-United-world-footballs-valuable-brand.html Since when 860milliom become more valuable than 3.17billion. Manchester United current worth is $3.17billion, United and Madrid are not in the million category. You have to look at the parameters being considered, and exactly what they are saying. BrandFinance rated without considering a number of factors, top of them is the part of the ownership the Glaziers put to the public, i.e the value of the club in the hands of investors. The value of part of Manchester United in the NYSE alone is in the billions. In summary, Forbes look at real money worth, while BrandFinance use metrics such as number of titles won in Europe etc, Royalties and all that which are not money at all. While Forbes rating cannot be overly overstated or understated, Brandfinnace rating can be swung to which ever way the rate committee wants to go. The real values that have credibility there in BrandFinance are the players value and revenue from Eufa based on UCL achievement this term. How can you use UCLs won many years ago in which the income has been used to buy players or invested ever since as part of your money worth? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:12am On May 29, 2013 |
Report has it that Man United has made an official approach for Fabregas. Anderson might go.
Monaco and Arsenal are reported to want Nani. I can't ever want Nani go. Won't want to see him play anywhere else. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:32am On May 29, 2013*. Modified: 9:02am On May 29, 2013 |
elampiro: My Opinion of players so far this season.
1.Rafael has been my best player this season. Despite lacking height, he is so balanced.
2. Evra is good while joining attack but mostly allow so much space on the far left-back which allows opponents to operate. He is easily beaten and joins centre back players in the box instead of picking his man in the wide.
3. Ferdinand and Vidic have the experience but lacking speed. The reason they play deep. Vidic is however highly valuable because of his aerial prowess. Will Vidic and Smalling work best? Or is it Vidic and Jones? What is the future like? Ferdinand is still great, but I don't think he is still a 'saviour'.
4. De Gea, a young and a potential world best, but I really get scared when those crosses fly into our box. Apart from the Madrid game in Spain, I haven't seen any exceptional save again. He made a good save against Chelsea in Old Trafford, but I felt he was badly positioned for Hazard's goal. He could also have done better in the second (equalizing) goal. Our overall play has been bad, but every good ball that beats the defence is as good as in the net.
5. Carrick is our best defensive midfielder, but he is behind players like Xavi, Alonso, Toure, Barry, Song, Bousqet, etc. Carrick is good while with the ball but poor off the ball. He is poor at tackling. In the whole, United is poor at marking, the players allow opponents too much space.
6. Cleverly and Anderson. Anderson is the only midfielder who can run with the ball and link well with the strikers. But he is below average in half of the matches. He needs to be more consistent, but how long will the coaching crew be patient with him.
Cleverly should play every game. He is always above average. But since March, he doesn't play well beyond the 55th minute. This was mostly evident in the games against Madrid, Chelsea and Sunderland too. However, these guys make us miss Fletcher.
6. Jones. He said said his best position is the centre back, and that he dislikes the midfield role. Ferguson desire to retain players who are defence minded and have helped in the clean slates recently. This is what is keeping Jones in the midfield, otherwise he lacks creativity there. He was manificient in the right back against Stoke City. With experience, he will do well in the centre too. A John Terry in the making.
7. Giggs. Giggs started the season very poorly. He and scholes made us lost our first two matches (Everton and Totteham) with the lack of speed to match opponents in the midfield. But Giggs changed some games for us later on in the season. When Young, Valencia and Nani were poor in the flanks, Giggs brought the wide play that made Ferguson to jettison the much criticized Diamond formation. In some matches, he exhibited the energy of a teenager as we saw in the matches around Christmas and the Madrid game. He wasn't our problem yesterday against West Ham. After all when he came, United didn't concede, instead the attacking was more and the equalizer came. Against City, he gave away the first City goal, but I still don't think he did badly. I will like Giggs to retire to enable the young players mature quickly. But, the average performance of these young lads always make SAF to remember Giggs and Scholes. The solution, retire Giggs and Scholes, sell the average lads like Anderson, Welbeck, Kagawa and co. United won UCL in 2008 when we had 'real strong men' like Owen Hagreaves operating from the defensive midfield, and sometimes from the right flank. Now sell all the average guys and buy real men from Germany, Spain and South America. If Fletcher had been fit, Scholes would never have returned, and Giggs and Jones wouldn't be getting midfield roles. Deploying Giggs to midfield is a game change I think even SAF didn't envisage. 8. Nani, Valencia and Young. I can't ever support Nani to go. He alone is capable of what he does. He has two great feet, can play from right, Left and Centre. He can shoot accurately with both feet and sometimes head in the box. His most important quality is ability to twist a defenders waist at a 'short notice' and opened up the defence. He can also run with the ball. Like Rooney, this has been his worst season. Perhaps, the arrival of Kagawa and RVP have caused SAF to unnecessarily not have faith in Nani and to some degree, Rooney too. The team rotation has dealt a big deal to the enthusiasm of Nani and Rooney.
Nani has always played his best football when Valencia is injured or/and Rooney out and he knows that he has to carry the team over several matches without his place being threatened. The problem has always been that he too soon get relegated to the bench as soon as Valencia or Young is fit even when he has been playing well. Now, with the presence of RVP and Kagawa Nani's woes have compounded. I want him retained. That's all.
Ashley Young. He will not end his career at United. I like him though for bringing good options.
Valencia should be retained for next season, we need to see if he can be his old self again. If Valencia cannot get space to run and get behind the opponents defence line, he is finished in the game. He can't play against a defence that plays deep and tightly packed. That's where Nani is more versatile. Valencia is however useful because he can play the number two position too. But we have Smalling and Jones also in the position.
9. Rooney and RVP. Every club wants them. SAF should motivate Rooney more.
10. Welbeck, Chicharito. If this is the way Welbeck is going to play, the ealier we ship him like Chelsea did to Sturridge, the better. He is causing selection problems.
Chicharito, he can't play but he scores. His goals are needed. But if we get to break the bank and get Falcao, then I can join in saying good bye to him for his own sake. But SAF can't afford Falcao. Chicha is just like Inzhagi. 18 box players.
Finally, the years we last dominated the midfield were when we had Owen Hargreaves and Flectcher fit. We need such agile, energetic and mobile midfielders. Oshea will do better than many of the supposed midfielders and make shift midfielders we had today. Oshea was an average player, but he probably would have helped us last season and this. We need to move forward, let SAF get capable midfielder, and I am sure he knows where to look at. @starboard, is the above your work, from page 188? Mr Argument. In your head everything in life is competition including number of posts in a forum. Na wa!!! On this thread, I am just doing my own and giving objective assessment of topics, whether anyone else is intelligent or whatever is never my business. I am not competing with anyone here. I don't know where this talk of intelligence and number of post is coming from. This is shocking!!! It is unhealthy!!! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:16am On May 29, 2013*. Modified: 8:53am On May 29, 2013 |
elampiro: 1. ....and can you tell us what happened the last time Man United met Chelsea in the Champions league? Then also what happened between them in the EPL same year. You have said the officiating in UCL is better.
2. Can you mention with evidence the number of matches United were favoured with referees errors this season? b.Then compared with the number of matches they were disfavoured? C. Also get statistics of that of City , Arsenal and co, then we can return here and compare. This season alone, City have won from two offside goal and got a draw from an opponent good goal disallowed.
3. How have you forgotten that the last time Chelsea won EPL it has to be a point above United, if Drogba's clear offside goal had been disallowed, United would have been champions. Drogba was at least 2 yards offside when the ball was passed to him. The previous year it was a dubious penalty against Michael Carrick that earned Chelsea a 2-1 controversial victory, yet United won the league. In 2011 it was a controversial penalty against Smalling that sent Chelsea 2-1 up in the league and Luis ought to have been given a black card for several malicious tackles. But in same year it was a different ball game in the UCL. The last I checked, the times United had beaten Chelsea in the EPL, the scoreline were heavy. 3-0, 3-1, etc.
I wanted to ignore you, but now, I decided to teach you some football. Starboard is the above your work too? From a much earlier page 208. There are countless more. So in your head you see these things as competition and post counting.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:02am On May 29, 2013 |
StarBoard: Muppet, You know you can do better than this. Get back to me when your game improves, instead of lifting from or directly plagiarising other people's intellectual work. Get back to me when you revisit pages earlier than 227 where you were spamming the hell out of us just to get your post count up and make us believe you were intelligent. Until then, i still am trying hard to notice you,demented gorilla. Meanwhile let me answer credible peeps jare. . .comot for my front, smelly slowpoke. You are an obese chimpanzee, I have great work out there before page 227. When I was writing about De Gea's inability to easily deal with aerial balls was it from your head I wrote? Secondly, I didn't know there was a competition here to determine who has the highest posts and test intelligence. So is that what you do here? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:43pm On May 28, 2013 |
Scholes' midfield five
Paul Scholes was a master craftsman for Manchester United for almost 20 years - but which fellow central midfielders, past or present, does he admire? Here are his top five, and a video of them in action...
Bryan Robson "I loved watching him when I was growing up. He could defend and head the ball away, then get up the other end to score goals. He had everything and could do everything a midfield player has to do."
Patrick Vieira "He was in the Roy Keane mould, another great leader and a player who could do everything. Not quite as good as Roy, obviously! But he was a top midfielder and difficult to play against; big, strong, athletic, and he had the longest legs in the world!"
Roy Keane "Some people only seem to think about his aggressiveness and determination, the way he could drive a team on, but he also had unbelievable ability, for example in his passing to the forwards. He could score a goal as well."
Andres Iniésta "Iniesta and Xavi are both a joy to watch - but not to play against. Of the two, Iniesta probably goes past opponents a little bit more."
Xavi "He is a similar player to Iniesta, but Xavi controls the game more with his one-twos."
Source: official Man United site. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:27pm On May 28, 2013 |
@starboard, here is more copy and paste.
Real Madrid are ready to make Cristiano Ronaldo the ‘best paid player in the world’ in order to keep him away from a return to Manchester United.
The Portuguese’s future in Spain has been the subject of much speculation, and reports have linked the forward with a move back to United, as well as a big-money move to Paris Saint Germain.
However, Madrid president Florentino Perez insists he’s willing to break the bank if it means hanging on to his star striker.
"He told me in the summer that he was sad and I told him that we will do everything possible to make him happy because for us he’s the best player in the world,
"I think Cristiano is the best in the world, we want to build the Madrid of the future around him and I would like Cristiano to be the best paid player in the world. I don’t know if he has an offer from PSG."
Perez’s vocal desire to keep Ronaldo comes just days after Real lost out to Barcelona in the race for Neymar. (Source: metro.co.uk) |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:26pm On May 28, 2013 |
StarBoard: You give statistical analysis? You must believe your own hype for real. When you were copying-and-pasting every news item that came out from Daily mail about United, were you making sense? For every one copy and paste club news, I have 5 more personal work. I don't want to liter here with old work otherwise I would have fetch more for you to see. I would rather give credence to my news by giving sources than giving fake or unverifiable news. Now I know copy and paste pains into your marrow, I will be all the more louder with it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:15pm On May 28, 2013 |
elampiro: I am so happy. At least you cannot deny the facts I gave you to counter your 40 goals lie.
Also you denied that Rooney didn't have a greater number of assist. Now I countered it.
Forget about playing time and open play. A goal is a goal. Anyone that is good cannot be on the bench.
On your computation, why are you isolating one season for Berbatov? In 2008/9, he scored only 9 goals in 2542 minutes. 2010 he score only 12 from 2096 minutes, and in 2012 he scored 5 in 513 minutes.
2009 Rooney: 30 matches/2263 minutes 12 goals, 7 assist
Berba: 31 matches/2542 minutes 9 goals, 9 assist
2010 Rooney. 32/2723.... 26 goals,3 assists Berba, 33/2096.... 12 goals, 5 assists 2011 Rooney. 28/2226..... 11 goals,11 assists Berba, 33/2210......21 goals, 4 assists 2012 Rooney, 34/2838..... 27 goals, 5 assists Berba, 12/513....... 7 goals, 0 assist
Also, the last time I checked, penalties are counted as goals in record books. Assists are also very important. So, Rooney has 102 goals + assist in four years.
Again, I never mentioned Berba can't use his head, except if nairaland censored my writing 'can't run with balls' to 'can't run with sphere'
Then you try to insult me by using a 3 year old as an example. Hahaha, I perfectly understand your levels now. Such is he case when one is frustrated. Like when Tyson resort to biting Hollyfield after defeat.
I gave you facts and sources to counter your claims about 40 penalties by Rooney whereas it was just 14. Your attempt to mislead people here has failed.
I really had a field day here today. Let me now go and crown it with Sunday evening outing. I will be here shortly again. @Starboard, is the above your work? You claim I copy and paste, is the above your job? If I have any news to share from another source I must state the link instead of engaging in plagiarism and giving reports without credibility. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:11pm On May 28, 2013 |
elampiro: Coogar you keep calling me a liar yet you are the one stating lies.
1. I never said Berbatov can't use his head.
[b]2. You said Rooney scored 40 penalties for United. See below for correct record. Even from United official website has information on it.
Rooney/United penalty record.
Rooney has taken 28 penalties in United's shirt and he has missed 9. He has only 14 Premier League goals from penalties. 2009/10 .... 4 2010/11.....3 2011/12..... 6 2012/13...... 1
Rooney's penalty scoring record. Goals. And assist since 2008. http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/epl/players.asp?player=16340 United has only had
Since 2005, United has had 53 EPL penalties and converted 38.
Contrary to your claim, In 2011/12 United had 11 penalties, two were missed and 9 scored. Rooney scored 6, Berbatov 2 and others 1. In 2009/10, Rooney only scored 4 penalties.
So if you removed Rooney's penalties, he will have 22 EPL goals in 2009/10 seasons, and 21 goals in 2011/12 which are still higher than Berbatov best ever season of 21.
Berbatov statistics. Berbatov figures
http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/epl/players.asp?player=5887
EPL penalty statistics by clubs and seasons
http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Premier_League_Penalty_Statistics.html
Also, stop calling penalties cheap. If it was cheap, Berbatov should not have been so harshly criticized in his lazy miss Against Everton in FA cup semi final.
3. Assist
You also said I lied about assist, the links above on Rooney and Bebatov total shows that:
2008/9 - 2011/12 Rooney, 76 EPL goals (13 from penalties) Net is 53. Assist is 26
Berbatov, 47 EPL goals (2 from penalties), net is 45. Assist is 20
So, where did I lie? Nani had the highest EPL assist for 3 years aggregate prior to this season. Rooney was high too but can't remember the position.
4. On the issue of performing in the big games and vital matches.
Berbatov has only 5 champions league goals in 4 years for United. Rooney already got 3 on his debut. 5 UCL goals in 4 years is too poor for a number9 striker. How can you compare this to Rooney who has a high work rate and crucial goals in the tournament. Rooney has 27 in his 9 years in UCL, and 14 in the knockout stage. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/7990227.stm
Dimitar Berbatov’s penalty for Manchester United v Everton was “the worst penalty taken by an international footballer”
You may wish to refer to the video.
Though anyone can miss a penalty, some people just know when to rise to the occasion in crucial times. We have big games player. Men for big and crucial occasion. [/b] 5. You said you provided highlights of Barbatov skills. I watched Berbatov, so I know his highlight. Even J.S. Park has some beautiful display of skills at some point in a match. Okocha for instance, has great foot work. But football is more than that.
6. As for the issue of Nistelrooy, you guys said he didn't have big signings playing with him in United. That was your excuse for his UCL failure and one EPL in 5 years. But he played along side expensive mates in Madrid, so what was his UCL achievements? At least Ronaldo has played 2 semi finals in 4 years. Mind you, if Ronaldo has converted his penalty against Bayern Munich, he should be more successful. So kudos to Rooney again who scores penalties to help the team through high hurdles.
7. Manchester United could have easily made around £55m in 2010, but united deemed it fit to retain him instead and also made him he 3rd highest paid. That is a man of caliber. Berbatov can never be worth as much as Rooney in the market. Never has it been, never will it be. The market determines the value of any product. Who will buy a 'fake' for a high amount when there is original? Does £30million market value resembles £4m?
8. Rooney taking a pay cut. That's not my argument or concern. Let the market forces play out.
9. Remember, there is what is called history book.
Wayne Rooney
Individual
▪ PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2009–10
▪ PFA Young Player of the Year (2): 2004–05, 2005–06
▪ PFA Fans' Player of the Year (2): 2005–06, 2009–10
▪ PFA Premier League Team of the Year (3): 2005–06, 2009–10, 2011–12
▪ FWA Footballer of the Year (1): 2009–10
▪ Goal of the Season (3): 2004–05, 2006–07, 2010–11
▪ Goal of the Month (6): October 2003, January 2005, April 2005, January 2007, March 2007, February 2011
▪ Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year (2): 2005–06, 2009–10
▪ BBC Young Sports Personality of the Year (1): 2002
▪ Bravo Award (1): 2003
▪ UEFA Euro 2004 Team of the Tournament
▪ FIFPro World Young Player of the Year (1): 2004–05
▪ Premier League Player of the Month (5): February 2005, December 2005, March 2006, October 2007, January 2010
▪ Barclays Player of the Year (1): 2009–10
▪ Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12):
▪ Best Goal (vs. Manchester City, 12 February 2011)
▪ FIFA Club World Cup Golden Ball (1): 2008
▪ Golden Boot Landmark Award 20 (1): 2009–10
▪ FIFA/FIFPro World XI (1): 2011, and 5th best in the world.
This year he was again on FIFA top 20 again for he year 2012. He's is frequent on that list.
@Starboard, is the above your work? Go to page 227 and subsequent pages. You claim I copy and paste, is the above your job? If I have any news to share from another source I must state the link instead of engaging in plagiarism and giving reports without credibility. You are taking us back. |