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dayokanu: The thought that players must be like huge like Robert Huth, Titus bramble and Kenwyne Jones is what makes some coaches get it wrong

Marko Reus was sold away from Dortmund because they taught he was too skinny, some years later they bought him back for 20m

This isn't my point. I am looking at energy. For instance, Welbeck is somehow big, but he uses it as an advantage. He is not lazy about it. Giggs has always been slim, but he covered more KM than most players. I am referring to energy here, I think Kagawa doesn't have it.

Another problem I have with Kagawa is his difficulties in winning 50-50 ball.s against opponents. JS Park had same challenge. Also, difficulties in shielding ball, though Kagawa is better than JS Park in this regard. Anderson is excellent in the ball fight and shielding it from opponents. Rooney shields best in my opinion, may be followed by Welbeck. RVP and Chicha struggle a bit in shielding the ball.

coogar: messi example is stretching it sef - how big is iniesta? which bully hasn't iniesta råped in europe in the last 7 years?

Iniester 65kg, 5.7

Kagawa 61kg, 5.7 1/2 or 5.8

Messi 67kg, 5.7

I don't think they play same kind of football. Or may be I have not assessing Kagawa well. Till next seasonM SAF said he is sure Kagawa will be better because he would have adapted more.

dayokanu: Silva is a forward and with that same slight frame,

Mario Gotze has a similar build and is actually touted to be used by Pep as a False 9

It might also interest you that Kagawa is taller than the best striker in the world currently Messi

I believe Messi will be heavier on the scale. But there is a difference between being short and energetic and being short and slow.

I may be wrong, but Kagawa looks to be trying to adapt. That is like a 50-50 chance. He has a good foot work, but slow in my assessment.

coogar: rooney lacks the guile to play in that position - it's not about size or height - it's about awareness, vision and control of the ball. david silva, mata, oscar, cazorla have proven size/height is vastly overrated!



i doubt you have ever watched dortmund play - their counterattacking football has surpassed united's in recent years. are you kidding me?? the way those players move the ball along the lines is the best in europe! every pass has a purpose with sharp movements that would tear any defence apart......

'awareness, vision and control of the ball' so do you mean Rooney doesn't have these? These are pure Rooney's qualities. Mata- Oscar- Moses- Hazard and Ramires are complete that's why they are able to collectively exhibit those qualities. Silva- Tevez- Aguero- Toure- Milner and Dzeko are another set. But it looks like we underrate our own. We won the league, right. So we can't say Rooney is short of those qualities. For instance, the pass he gave to RVP against Aston Villa. He gave RVP two more in the UCL. Then he has more goals than some of the guys you mentioned.

I don't watch too much of Bundesliga, but I know Dortmound only became a force in UCL this season in recent times. Given two years ago, United will whitewash them.

mbulela: the way it worked against Fabregas and Modric and is presently working against Cortinho?

Fabregas has a heavier frame, and I guess he is taller too. Mordric is not a striker, he doesn't get into the box to head corners. Modric is also fast and covers so many KM/match.

Diasporan: Alert has been issued and people won't listen.Later they will still blame GEJ for it

It is not enough to just issue alerts. Have camps been built? Has the government made provision for food, drugs and relief materials? Will the kids abandon schools? What about he villagers' farms and animals, properties.

It is not easy to just vacate villages. But to where?

I don't see how Kagawa can ever command that role as we expect. He doesn't seem to have the energy to cope with EPL fast paced football. Those fast games against Totteham, Everton, West Ham require so much energy. The Bundesliga and Laliga gradual building of attack suits some players. Kagawa like JS Park lack height and weight which work against them.

coogar: hopefully, rooney would be gone and kagawa would make that role his own. no more liabilities like giggs in the central midfield too so kagawa won't have to track back all the time. sell rooney, sack giggs, bring 2 box to box midfielders in and a top tier striker and we are sorted!

Was Rooney ever Kagawa's problem? Kagawa played in absence of Rooney in front of Carrick and Cleverly. He also played in front of Rooney in some matches. So it is Kagawa who needs positions around him fortified before he can perform, but Rooney must perform whether with Giggs or Scholes or both together.

Wayne Rooney is set for showdown talks with David Moyes this week to decide his Manchester United future.

Moyes is not officially due to start work as United boss until July 1 but was at the Red Devils Carrington training base on Monday for meetings with the departing Sir Alex Ferguson and his backroom staff.

Resolving Rooney’s future is the first job on the new man’s agenda.

Moyes is believed to be keen to keep hold of the 27-year-old but will demand 100 per cent commitment to the club.

If Rooney can’t give him the assurances he desires Moyes feels he will have little choice but to off-load the unsettled striker from the United ranks as quickly as possible. <Source: metro.co.uk>

Some people said Valencia was finished. In he West Brom game he showed that he will be a force to recon with when in form. How quickly people here crucify a player once they start hating him. One season can never be enough to write off any player.

Also, our match against West Brom shows we need someone to hold up the play both in the midfield and attack. Without the other, one cannot function. Carrick or Scholes can hold in the midfield, but without anyone like Rooney in the attack to retain the ball there. The game against West Brom shows there has to be a coordinator, else our game will resembles a school boy football. Attack me and attack you. That is the way Aston Villa plays. Madrid game is also like that. So if Rooney is going they should know who should come. Fellani might come to the midfield as he has hinted that if he is to move, he would like to play under a coach that he already loves. So we just need Rooney to stay or somweone like Fabregas to replace him.

montelik: Okay I will go first, here is my football manager approach to this summers transfer window.

1. Sell Rooney for £40-50m. According to Elampiro he is 3rd best in the world so £50m is even low.

2. Buy Bale for £20m plus Ashley Young in a swap+cash deal.

3. Use the extra wage room cleared by letting Rooney and Young go to give Nani a new improved long term deal and cover wages of the new signings.

4. Ear mark about £25m to bring in 2 mobile, energetic all round central midfielders. At least one must be ready to immediately start and have top quality (not necessarily defensive midfielders or attacking midfielders). e.g Strootman, Cabaye, Wanyama, Banega e.t.c

5. Use the remaining budget (about £35m) to bring in a genuine top rate player to add back our fright factor as well as compensate for Rooney's departure. (CR7, Lewandoski, Falcao e.t.c) or instead bring in a quality young prodigy like we did with CR7 after Ronaldinho played us in 2003. (e.g Munian, Reus, Eriksen).

Any player not up to the added competition for places can go.


Unlikely, but a man can dream. Who's next?

Ronaldo might be three players in one, but he is not a placement for Rooney. Rooney's replacement has to be someone who has the capability to hold on possession in the attacking area while his mates run into spaces. Ronaldo needs this assistance and not he providing it. Probably what Ozil tries to do for Madrid. But I think Fabregas will just fit, or Falcao. But Falcao will be expensive, then Fabregas can be a utility player in all the positions in the midfield/supporting striker.

Rooney shows new baby on his page.

The proud animal who calls himself a professor is temporary gone. Waiting for you tomorrow. Mr falsehood! Professor of 5 gullible people.

United 3-2 Tottenham. The Reds rally from 0-2 down at half time to win the under-21 Premier League final in classic style! Congratulations lads

coogar: give what up?
elampiro needs lobotomy and prof coogar is doing humanity a service by fixing elamps!



more brainfarts from the homoerotic donkey....
who cares about the number of awards rooney has? only fools like you throw such nonsense in a rational discourse. rooney is substandard to berbatov and that's a fact!

A fact in your bear parlour. 5 UCL goals in 4 years, a bench warmer, a £4m striker. A striker sent to the bench by Chicharito.

Officially awarded goal of the month. Then goal of the year. And finally EPL best goal ever. It will take decades to get anything close again.

A cross from Nani from the flank. It flew behind Rooney, then he turned and went on a very high scissors kick, on a fist time. The ball was in the air from the cross, it didn't drop, no interception. What a marvelous hit by Wayne Rooney. Is it the height of the ball, is it the timing by Rooney, is the the precision? Is it the accuracy on the target? But wait, it has to be a winning goal a English football biggest rivalry goal. All of which made it very phenomena. It can only be done by Wayne Rooney. It came at a time he was being booed even by fans for his transfer saga, after 2010 world cup and on his return from injury. Big game player.

coogar: berbatov's volley against liverpool was of equal standing, you homoerotic pleb!

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33 million moröns like yourself, you mean?
what sanity can exist amongst people of your ilk? you are so mentally-deranged, you would taste shït before knowing what it is. facebook united fans where ruminant animals like yourself thought chicharito was below average this season until we corrected your leaky brains.



an overhead kick rooney shinned instead of using his in-step. berba's goal was back to reina and he still beat reina to score. rooney is british so i expect goats like yourself to suck his phallus!




without a doubt, he is......
except that this giggs never came close to winning ballon d'or throughout those 13 years. you are a tool!



giggs is the local champion. football greats have chosen scholes as the best midfielder of our generation and you are lauding giggs!!! giggs?



berbatov, cantona, ruud, ronaldo are all greater than rooney. deal with it! oshea has gazillion titles, sagna has none.........by elampiro's idiotic standard, oshea is better than bacary and valdes is better than buffon!

Listen to yourself again. Berbatov goal is of equal standard. Bear parlour talk. Keep celebrating mediocrity. PFA best goals goes to Rooney. And the whole world knows there has never been, and there might never be anything close to it in decades to come. Keep swimming in your bvear parlour ideas and opinions. Experts view and awards are there for the history books. Like the ones below.

Wayne Rooney

Honours

Club

Manchester United

▪ Premier League (5): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2010–11, 2012–13

▪ Football League Cup (2): 2005–06, 2009–10

▪ FA Community Shield (3): 2007, 2010, 2011

▪ UEFA Champions League (1): 2007–08

▪ FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Individual

▪ PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2009–10

▪ PFA Young Player of the Year (2): 2004–05, 2005–06

▪ PFA Fans' Player of the Year (2): 2005–06, 2009–10

▪ PFA Premier League Team of the Year (3): 2005–06, 2009–10, 2011–12

▪ FWA Footballer of the Year (1): 2009–10

▪ Goal of the Season (3): 2004–05, 2006–07, 2010–11

▪ Goal of the Month (6): October 2003, January 2005, April 2005, January 2007, March 2007, February 2011

▪ Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year (2): 2005–06, 2009–10

▪ BBC Young Sports Personality of the Year (1): 2002

▪ Bravo Award (1): 2003

▪ UEFA Euro 2004 Team of the Tournament

▪ FIFPro World Young Player of the Year (1): 2004–05

▪ Premier League Player of the Month (5): February 2005, December 2005, March 2006, October 2007, January 2010

▪ Barclays Player of the Year (1): 2009–10

▪ Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12):

▪ Best Goal (vs. Manchester City, 12 February 2011)

▪ FIFA Club World Cup Golden Ball (1): 2008

▪ England Player of the Year (2): 2008, 2009

▪ Golden Boot Landmark Award 20 (1): 2009–10

▪ FIFA/FIFPro World XI (1): 2011, 5th best in the world.

coogar: when stüpudity fell in love with idiocy, you are their love child! no one is enlightening anyone - is giggs the king of old trafford like you claim? if yes - show us where he was given such awards and this matter would end!



i know better than the pillocks that wrote the articles you read. they told you de gea flopped this season, i told you that isn't true. at the end of it all, i provided stats that placed de gea far ahead of hart - you still continued to spew nonsense until the PFA for once got their voting system right on de gea. if we follow your lead, hart is the better goalie this season - it's easy to see you are a möron!



so in your dilapidated nervous system, giggs was better than vidic in 2009? giggs was better than vidic that kept 14 clean sheets in consecutive league games? i put it to you that you suffer from syphilis of the nervous system!



giggs has 13 EPL titles? lolololol - that makes him better than eric? you are a tadpole! rio has 6 EPL titles, he must be better than ronaldo!

Blocked head, stop using bear parlour discussion to compare official awards. Giggs is the best player in EPL ever.

Which is that all the players you promote are all local champions? Does that not tell you something? Giggs is two UCL winner, two more finals and 13 EPL titles.

Cantona was wonderful and phenomena but he was a local champion and a few season wonder man.
Then on the lower ladder, Rooner has 1 UCL, 5 EPL and PFA best (1), FIFA recognitions. Where is Berbatov and Nistelrooy? Mr allknowing.

coogar: i just love how this sand-nïgga keeps claiming the moral victory he doesn't even smell. if you have any decorum left in your diseased frame you call a body, you would log out n ask the admin to close your account - i won't even get into the RVP/suarez debate as it's futile!



berbatov is better than rooney by an astronomical mileage! the stats have proven it, their individual performance has proven it! you can knock your head against the wall but berba is your god - bow down and pray to your bulgarian lord n saviour.

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kolarov scores plenty of freekicks - he must be better than evra. at this point, one has to believe a billy goat urinated on your head when you were a child - it's the only reason for your flawed logic!



corner kicks? hahahaha! what a fowl! how many corners have you seen with the ball going straight into the net without the interference of another player? i have said it, you should be quarantined before your infection spreads to the rest of the forum!




you are a goat!
if goals/min stat can be so ambiguous to you then i shudder to think how you made it out of school? you must have spermflakes in your brain!

below is the table comparing carrick to arteta in the just concluded season. if you are literate enough, you would see passes from open play were considered, and the other various factors you cannot find on your facebook!

[img]http://cdn.eplindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Carrick-Arteta-Possession.png?_cfgetx=img.rx:1274;img.ry:1274;[/img]

Loser, what are the clips you are showing? Even Okocha has great goals. Has your IQ degenerated this low? Don't you know Rooney has the official EPL best goal of all time?

How can you possibly compare Manchester United official facebook page to this place, your limited resources cannot meet their level of technology and they are always with the teams and players, at training and virtually everywhere. A page of 33 million people and average of 2 million people discussing per week. You really are a proud ignoramous who is not ready to come out from your cave.

No one else is capable of Rooney's goal against City. A winning goal. Big game player.

How do you define respect? Only the likes of Parlo Madini and Inzaghi can talk when he talks.

Ryan Giggs

Honours

Club

Manchester United

▪ Premier League (13): 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2010–11, 2012–13

▪ FA Cup (4): 1993–94, 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04

▪ Football League Cup (4): 1991–92, 2005–06, 2008–09, 2009–10

▪ FA Community Shield (: 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010

▪ UEFA Champions League (2): 1998–99, 2007–08

▪ UEFA Super Cup (1): 1991

▪ Intercontinental Cup (1): 1999

▪ FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Individual

▪ PFA Young Player of the Year (2): 1991–92, 1992–93

▪ PFA Team of the Year (6): 1992–93, 1997–98, 2000–01, 2001–02, 2006–07, 2008–09

▪ PFA Team of the Century (1): 1997–2007[86]

▪ PFA Players' Player of the Year (1): 2008–09

▪ FWA Tribute Award: 2007

▪ Bravo Award (1): 1993

▪ BBC Sports Personality of the Year (1): 2009

▪ BBC Wales Sports Personality of the Year (2): 1996, 2009

▪ GQ Sportsman of the Year (1): 2010[87]

▪ Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year (1): 1997–98

▪ Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year (2): 1990–91, 1991–92

▪ Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02): Overall Team of the Decade

▪ Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12): best player

▪ UEFA Champions League 10 Seasons Dream Team (1992 to 2002): 2002


▪ Premier League Player of the Month (3): September 1993, August 2006, February 2007

▪ Goal of the Season (1): 1998–99

▪ English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2005

▪ Golden Foot: 2011

Orders and special awards

▪ OBE for services to football: 2007

coogar: V

you are a fool, an obese one if i may add,
boom! in 08/09, the PFA awarded giggs as the best player in the league based on one game against chelsea at old trafford. in the same season, united players and united fans awarded vidic the player of the season(2 awards) on one night!

lesson: what the PFA decides to do is their own prerogative. no united fan would agree with you giggs is the king of old trafford, except homoerotic nincompoops like yourself with poop for brains!



you have said it all - majority of the voters are today's kids that troll/spam the internet. half of them never saw the greats like cantona, bruce, ruud. trolls like you that started supporting united after DSTV became popular in nigeria! you need help from UNICEF to rewire your thought process!



you are such an idïot - no one is arguing about who is the best in the premier league - it's about who rules the roost at old trafford!



read more? i know more than the people who write the articles you post here. look at this arabian camel!!! no wonder you claimed rooney won the FA cup. you musta gotten that from the fake articles you read. the same articles that told you chicharito was rubbish this season until we pointed it out to you he has played less than 10 league games in total!

you must be suffering from autism! sports journos all over the world come here to steal ideas n the precise analysis we do here everyday n you are there shoving idiotic articles in our faces. PFA had to nominate de gea as the best goalie before you agreed he's an excellent goalie - a fact we drummed into your head for weeks. if you marry a fool like yourself, all your kids would end up in a mental institution!



you are exposing yourself as a career idïot, a scumbag with an IQ less than your 10. the only plonker that feels PFA speaks for man utd fans. people would be reading your comments and they would laugh at your high level of ignorance!

Block head, when has voting done by professional footballers, ex-footballers, offcials and journalist tantamount to kids voting. Try and enlightened yourserlf ignoramous you. if it were kids, the best celebration wouldn't have gone to Cantona, you big empty head

You claim to know more than people directly involved in the game- players, coaches, ex-players, journalist, TV presenters, yet you have just 5 brainwashed followers here. The reall peaople who should have enlightened you and your cohort, you chased them away, for in your blindness and darkness you prefer. How dark your football sense really is. If you have accepted you were an ignoramous, then the people who came here previously would have helped you, or you should have learnt a little. No you claim you know, there you remain in your ignorance.

All United fans unanimosly know the truth in other forum, except here you have braishwash some gullible people. Official award is official and not your bear parlour award. Whenever there is a conflict of intesrest in awards, the one done by professionals footballers and endorsed by the governing body stands.
Cantona I respect, Cantona I love, but he was a few season wonder and a local champion. Giggs has 13 EPL and two UCL trophies.

StarBoard: Running out of words to describe your folly.
Ryan Giggs got more votes = he's the best ever player in the premier league.According to you
I shudder at those who think you are a barrel of information.
After you get caught out in your lies, you now believe in your own hype.

You have yet to tell us where Rooney is King.
Because the issue was never about wages.
Eric Cantona is from France (wouldn't be so sure you knew that) but he is the King of Old Trafford.
So where is your logic?
Opaks all the way

I don't understand your post on Giggs. Are you now saying he doesn't deserve it or what? Are you more knowledgeable than the voters? Even Messi's world best was based on votes.

As for Cantona, in what ceremony are you referring to? When was the coronation making him king? Anyone can claim king. Some fans call SAF king of Old Trafford, some others call Cantona 'king', some call Rooney 'king'. There is a 'fan club for king Rooney'.

In my post, I said I have decided to call him King Rooney. It's my decision and how does it affect anyone. Then Coogar decided to call Berbatov god. Lol

Sir Alex Ferguson: The king of Old Trafford for 25 years

Nov 6 2011 by Steve Bates, The People

HE has been the king of Old Trafford for 25 years and taken Manchester United on a glory trip they could never have dreamed of back on November 6 1986.

Alex Ferguson Main

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/news/2011/11/06/sir-alex-ferguson-the-king-of-old-trafford-for-25-years-102039-23540572/

Old Trafford king steps off throne

Published: 09 May 2013

Sir Alex Ferguson will retire at the end of the season. Picture: AP

⁠5 comments ⁠

SIR Alex Ferguson is to Britain’s football community what the Queen is to the population at large. Only a very small minority can remember a time when he was not on the throne.
http://m.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/sport/football/glenn-gibbons-old-trafford-king-steps-off-throne-1-2924241

But the greatest player from Old Trafford in the EPL era is Giggs. This is official.

StarBoard: Running out of words to describe your folly.
Ryan Giggs got more votes = he's the best ever player in the premier league.According to you
I shudder at those who think you are a barrel of information.
After you get caught out in your lies, you now believe in your own hype.

You have yet to tell us where Rooney is King.
Because the issue was never about wages.
Eric Cantona is from France (wouldn't be so sure you knew that) but he is the King of Old Trafford.
So where is your logic?
Opaks all the way

I don't understand your post on Giggs. Are you now saying he doesn't deserve it or what? Are you more knowledgeable than the voters? Even Messi's world best was based on votes.

As for Cantona, in what ceremony are you referring to? When was the coronation making him king? Anyone can claim king. Some fans call SAF king of Old Trafford, some others call Cantona 'king', some call Rooney 'king'. There is a 'fan club for king Rooney'.

Sir Alex Ferguson: The king of Old Trafford for 25 years

Nov 6 2011 by Steve Bates, The People

HE has been the king of Old Trafford for 25 years and taken Manchester United on a glory trip they could never have dreamed of back on November 6 1986.

Alex Ferguson Main

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/news/2011/11/06/sir-alex-ferguson-the-king-of-old-trafford-for-25-years-102039-23540572/

Old Trafford king steps off throne

Published: 09 May 2013

Sir Alex Ferguson will retire at the end of the season. Picture: AP

⁠5 comments ⁠

SIR Alex Ferguson is to Britain’s football community what the Queen is to the population at large. Only a very small minority can remember a time when he was not on the throne.
http://m.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/sport/football/glenn-gibbons-old-trafford-king-steps-off-throne-1-2924241

But the greatest player from Old Trafford in the EPL era is Giggs. This is official.

StarBoard: Running out of words to describe your folly.
Ryan Giggs got more votes = he's the best ever player in the premier league.According to you
I shudder at those who think you are a barrel of information.
After you get caught out in your lies, you now believe in your own hype.

You have yet to tell us where Rooney is King.
Because the issue was never about wages.
Eric Cantona is from France (wouldn't be so sure you knew that) but he is the King of Old Trafford.
So where is your logic?
Opaks all the way

I don't understand your post on Giggs. Are you now saying he doesn't deserve it or what? Are you more knowledgeable than the voters? Even Messi's world best was based on votes.

As for Cantona, in what ceremony are you referring to? When was the coronation making him king? Anyone can claim king. Some fans call SAF king of Old Trafford, some others call Cantona 'king', some call Rooney 'king'. There is a 'fan club for king Rooney'.

Sir Alex Ferguson: The king of Old Trafford for 25 years

Nov 6 2011 by Steve Bates, The People

HE has been the king of Old Trafford for 25 years and taken Manchester United on a glory trip they could never have dreamed of back on November 6 1986.

Alex Ferguson Main

http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/news/2011/11/06/sir-alex-ferguson-the-king-of-old-trafford-for-25-years-102039-23540572/

Old Trafford king steps off throne

Published: 09 May 2013

Sir Alex Ferguson will retire at the end of the season. Picture: AP

⁠5 comments ⁠

SIR Alex Ferguson is to Britain’s football community what the Queen is to the population at large. Only a very small minority can remember a time when he was not on the throne.
http://m.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/sport/football/glenn-gibbons-old-trafford-king-steps-off-throne-1-2924241

But the greatest player from Old Trafford in the EPL era is Giggs. This is official.

@ Coogar how do you mean by Vidic award?

Incase you don't know, 'premier league 20 years award' voting was done all players and all the professionals involved in EPL football. Votings were opened for many months. It was a more serious and aa higher award than the usual yearly PFA award. There Giggs was crowned the greatest player in EPL ever.

Sorry it bites you hard for I know you have succeeded in using your narrow sense of judging football to belittle Giggs here and promoting half baked strikers, bench warmers and flops. That is your Berbatov. And to correct you, Cantona is only one of the great, not the greatest in EPL. Your fake dubious analysis cannot be anywhere near the voting of those who are involved directly in the game.

Stop misleading people, listen and read more o gain knowledge. What do you gain from these arguments? You are so obsessed with argument here, you claim to be all knowing. People who come to make genuine active participation, who won't let them give heir opinion. You insult to frustrate them out so that you can monopolize the thread even with dubious information you give. No wonder this place is dry. The faceless people who write here are probably too self respecful to take your insults, and you don't know who is at the other end. They all left you to eat your narrow minded football analizing skills while you worship flops as in Berbatov.

I am here to expose you. I really have noticed what you are doing. Nairaland is a public forum.

coogar: yet the pet monkey continues to open his mouth without any iota of common sense. are freekicks classified as open play or set play? why are you such a fool? you want to compare the villa goal van persie scored to suarez's "hit the ball n hope it scores" freekicks with the defensive wall 10 yards away? you are a miserable sod!



what a troglodyte - so i am starting to lose dignity? that's better. you never had it since you brought your idiotic self here. the only man utd fan that saw rooney win the FA cup for man utd!



you didn't enjoy nothing - you have been destroyed completely here. telling us giggs is the king of old trafford because the premier league awarded him a sham award. since i posted the vidic example of 2009, elampiro ram back to his räpe dungeon where fools like him belong!

Exactly how a loser talks. You are trying to open new debates, I am not following you there, I am satisfied with my devastating blows on you which shattered the falsehood you have built here. You want to open a new debate of who scored more great goal between Suarez and RVP, who was just tapping in and who scored from beating defenders with solo effort and hitting from free kicks as a genius. Even though I know the answer, I won't deviate from my great work here which gave you a technical knockout.

You expect everyone here to follow your lies and your idiotic ways of analyzing football. Until now, you had succeeded in brain washing some guys here to the believe Rooney scored 40 penalties. You succeeded in deceiving them to believe 5 UCL goal striker and a bench warmer is the best striker united has had over the past 8 years. You could have as well force SAF to pick Macheida over Welbeck with your senseless goal per minute statistics. You could also have the FA giving the golden boot to Suarez based on your foolish style of analyzing football as you did between Berba and Rooney. Instead of you to accept defeat and save yourself from further shame, you embarrassing yourself the more. Subtract penalties, subtract free kicks, add volleys, etc. When on earth has that ever being used in calculating football goals? To tell you don't watch football, you don't even know the competitions Suarez scored his free kicks. Well, who blames you when yours is to seat behind computer and watch only highlights and go to sites to get statistics of your per minute football. Incase you don't know,

Ronaldo scored so much from free kicks and he was considered a genius. It is a plus. I supposed you have deducted Ronaldo's free kicks and penalties from his goals.
Mugu, I guess you left out goals from corner kicks. Why not deduct them since they are set plays too. Narrow minded style of analyzing football

This is the end of your deception, false statistics and dubious ways of analyzing football on this forum.

coogar: suarez scored 6 direct freekicks - that's not open play, you maggot! since when has freekicks classified as open play. you are a joke!



says the tool that told us macheda's stats is better than all united strikers.



away win for a complete troglodyte that lied he saw rooney with the FA cup medal. lied rooney had more assists per min than berbatov. you better go back to your facebook forums where the FA does the coronation of the king at old trafford - unrepentant soccer illiterate!

Hahahahahagahahaaaaa, ajigbijigbi. All your followers are laughing at your stupidity. Only genius score free kicks. It's more difficult to score free kicks than tap in.

You are beginning to lose any dignity left of my dismantly of you. You should have bowed out honorably since. Why did you not mention free kick in your previous debate. Trying o survive and save face.

Anyway, I enjoyed the past few days, particularly yesterday and especially last night.

coogar: you are a retärd!
van persie scores 1 goal in every 120 mins, suarez does 1 in every 128 mins. van persie scores quicker than suarez which is contrary to the stüpudity you are displaying. i did not compute any per minute data for the assist cos van persie wins that hands down.


3123/26 = ?

2953/23 = ?

your 3 year-old cousin can help you, fool!

Your foolish man.
RVP scored 26 minus 3 penalties = 23 goals in 3123 minutes
Suarez scored all 23 goals from open play in 2955 minutes.

You brainless logic has caught up with you. Nonsense!

Goodnight everyone, I had a field day pummeling Coogar and cohort. I finish them in with their stupid logic. An away win for me. Sweet dreams.

coogar: stop displaying your idiocy - whether 14 or 40, berba still beats rooney. berba had 7000 mins under his belt at old trafford, that's a decent sample size to analyse his performance!



berbatov came a hero, left a hero.




the only award that is important is the golden boot award. you don't need any panel of judges to vote on that. if you outscore your fellow professionals, you get the boot....it's as simple as that! FIFA 11, UEFA 11, SOLAR SYSTEM 11 is open for a debate -



yet he brainfarts again - after getting shown up that macheda's stats of goal/min is worse than rooney, berbatov and hernandez, he throws another idiotic analogy into it....

suarez - 23 goals + 11 assists in 2953 mins
robin. - 26 goals + 15 assists in 3123 mins

suarez, 1 goal every 128 mins
robin, 1 goal every 120 mins.

go n take the award from van persie, you idiotic fowl! expecting you to bring up another foolish example.

Idiotic analysis, which FA gives award on assists?

coogar: stop displaying your idiocy - whether 14 or 40, berba still beats rooney. berba had 7000 mins under his belt at old trafford, that's a decent sample size to analyse his performance!



berbatov came a hero, left a hero.




the only award that is important is the golden boot award. you don't need any panel of judges to vote on that. if you outscore your fellow professionals, you get the boot....it's as simple as that! FIFA 11, UEFA 11, SOLAR SYSTEM 11 is open for a debate -



yet he brainfarts again - after getting shown up that macheda's stats of goal/min is worse than rooney, berbatov and hernandez, he throws another idiotic analogy into it....

Now you exposed yourself. Golden ball or best player is greater than highest goal scorer.

In your per minute analysis, Macheida scores more than one goal in two matches. Does that make him greater than Welbeck? Goals are not judged by per minute because as you play longer, there is tendency for goals to drop due to fatique and diminishing return. That's why bench warmers sometimes shine just for a fluke. See below and be guided.

Take the case of RVP and Suarez this season as I said earlier.
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What is the correlation between 14 and 40? 2005 to date United had 38 penalties. Yet you claimed Rooney had 40.

Go and support you Berbatov, 5 UCl goals in 4 years. Bench warmer, no FIFA honour, no EPL honour. £4m striker.

To you every award is nonsense, except your irrelevant statistics- open play, per minute. Let's have ratio of goal/minute of Macheida in seasons he scored. Then you will understand how useless your start support bench warmers. In your opinion, Macheida is better than Welbeck.

You could as well take the EPL golden boot from RVP and give to Suarez based on your brainless irrelevant odd way of analyzing football.

coogar: you are a tool - who n who argued with you about giggsy's useless award. i said rooney has scored about 40 penalties for united overall - i never used it as a fact in my statistics. and when you computed the stats, berbatov still beat rooney - in a nutshell, rooney's actual number of penalties scored is irrelevant!



you are a consummate retärd - i dunno macheda's what?



so rooney being on FIFA 11 makes him better than berbatov? hahahaha - your brain cells need to be reconfigured.



mumu - the only united fan who thinks rooney won the FA cup.

What is the correlation between 14 and 40? 2005 to date United had 38 penalties. Yet you claimed Rooney had 40.

Go and support you Berbatov, 5 UCl goals in 4 years. Bench warmer, no FIFA honour, no EPL honour. £4m striker.

To you every award is nonsense, except your irrelevant statistics- open play, per minute. Let's have ratio of goal/minute of Macheida in seasons he scored. Then you will understand how useless your start support bench warmers. In your opinion, Macheida is better than Welbeck.

You could as well take the EPL golden boot from RVP and give to Suarez based on your brainless irrelevant odd way of analyzing football.