European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:14am On Jan 03, 2019 |
larride: Not bad moving forward! Linderlof actually won 1 tackle. Who composed this kind of stat.
He did very well though, but again he was moved to RCB after a very poor outing in LCB last weekend.
Even Jones that they said did not play well, also won 1 tackle. Linderlof 0 interception. Jones 2 interceptions won. I actually saw those two times he intercepted after Shaw had been displaced. But I don't know if people do not watch ball as I do. Jones still had the highest pass accuracy in the game apart from Lingard who had 100%
Lindelof is the best ball playing centre back, that is not disputable. But at the moment he is now where near our best centre back if everyone is playing at their best with fitness.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:08am On Jan 03, 2019 |
PietroRick: we have more than enough cover at RB tbh. Young, Dalot and Darmian are all currently better alternatives. Darmian has impressed me everytime I've seen him this season. He is going to be a decent player for the club in Italy that signs him Only Young can challenge a fit Valencia at right back. Darmian just try to cope in a match. Mostly on the right. He has done some job on the left. Dalot is not ready yet to play at this level. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:04am On Jan 03, 2019 |
afrodoc2: None of those guys is turning 34 this year. He was already showing signs before he got injured.
I really don’t know why you guys want to be hanging on to this overaged full backs that now offer little going forward. The issue is not age or what they should play next season. The issue is about the squad and games this season. We will talk about next season. We will know when VALENCIA or/and YOUNG needs to give way. For now they block no one's chances. Dalot is cannot displace anyone of them yet. We saw Dalot vs Valencia in the begging of the season when Val was fit, no comparison. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:00am On Jan 03, 2019 |
nyabinghi: valencia's first game and a clean sheet I tire for them o. The truth is, with scores at 0-0, we looked more vulnerable on Luke Shaw side. It was like a matter of time before one of the run behind him got well utilized. Most of the crosses from the right were stamped against Valencia's body in only his first game. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:55am On Jan 03, 2019 |
afrodoc2: [/b]
That was not a good call by OGS as neither [b]Mata and Valencia can beat their man 1v1 [/b]on the outside and whip in good crosses consistently. Anytime we start those 2 together the right side will be dead. This is untrue. If Lukaku did not score, Newcastle would never have opened that end. Mata cannot beat, but Valencia can beat with speed if he gets his match rhythm. However, yesterday, Rafa Benitez, an experienced tactician, blocked United from playing normal football Ole brought. I actually thought Ole made a mistake with Sanchez. It should have been Lingard coming on. The fortunate goal for Lukaku saved us, cos even Sanchez would have been silenced like Martial. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:50am On Jan 03, 2019 |
chrisley024: They've played 4 games in less than 2 weeks.
Matic, Pogba, Rashford mainly should be rested while the likes of Perreira and co play. Matic and Pogba cannot take leave same it. It should be slow rotation. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:49am On Jan 03, 2019 |
PietroRick: they were begging Valencia to push up at some point today. He seemed confused af. Didn't know when to push or fall and was ultimately in no mans land on several occasions.
I don't know if it's lack of match fitness or sharpness or he is just completely and totally finished.. Whatever it is, I hope he never starts for us again, especially when Mata is on the pitch One match and you write this? You fall hand. Mata has played his best football for United with Valencia behind. Mata has struggled playing in front of anyone else. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:47am On Jan 03, 2019 |
Botfuss: The first thing that made me happy was;for the first time in a long time,a team used five defenders against us. Shows fear.
[b]Lukaku looks sharp. Martial hasn’t been up to his level last two matches. [/b]Shaw also had a fair game.
Good win anyway. Mae we just beat spurs chai This is how to read football. I look at long term performance in combination with other factors to judge which players are good or bad. Lingard is more consistent than Martial and Rashford. In fact, after DDG, Lingard has been the most consistent in years. He might not have great skills like the rest, but he is consistent at what he does for the team. Off the ball, he is working covering potential space the opponent are trying to use. While we are in possession, he does not hide. He also drives the ball forward well between players. Martial is super man in only 30% of his games. He needs to rais it to 50%, then more. Rashford has been super in the new set up, but let's hope it continues because I doubt his maturity. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:35am On Jan 03, 2019 |
eph12: Elampiro, about Lingard, he's better than the options we currently have, especially Mata. But what about outside the club? Are there better options or he's irreplaceable? I am talking on the options we have and their current form, consistency and game maturity. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:56pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
Oasis007:

Marcus Rojo is still a United Player though. Hopefully he might be the missing Puzzle, perfect Combo with Lindelof. The day he will come, they will want him to perform like he has been fit for ages. If Lindelof gets injured for half a season, he might not be able to trap ball on his return. People don't understand. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:54pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
I repeat, nothing wrong with Valencia. He is just back from injury and needs two or three games to get back.
A day will come, we will look for him just as we looked for Young today. It is normal. He who plays more gets fitter and uses the ball better.
Moreover, it might even be a game plan to get him stay back. He did his primary duty well.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:48pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
We were up against a team whose strongest attacking side is their left, and not many teams have that strenght in the EPL. Manchester United, Arsenal, City, are like that too.
Valencia is match rusty and it was wise not to go forward. Valencia doesn't need to prove himself going forward, with time his normal attacking play will return. Today he did well defensively.
In the beginning of the season, many argued that Young is useless both defensively and forward play.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:43pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
So the first match without Lingard, we looked disjointed in attack. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:36pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
Valencia and Sanchez look rusty |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:29pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
eph12: These players have dribbling skills. They can hold the ball and create space for others. They attempt difficult passes everyday Is this the definition of productivity? Let's know so that we can adjust for future reference. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:40pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
eph12: Lingard that was finding it difficult to pass and move yesterday. He will pass the ball and still wait behind to receive backward pass instead of running forward to play one two How did he moved forward against Cardiff? All the players are guilty of same. Moreover, Lingard has a duo function, he doubles as the man in the hole. If you watch well, Rashford and Pogba were running into the box for long crosses while Lingard waits behind them. It is still part of the plan. The coaches are not foolish to keep him on for 90 minutes in most matches while Rashford and Martial get substituted. It same for the Three Lions. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:36pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
obainojazz: Modric and Iniesta were important in the system they played in. Has William not been important for Chelsea even when they won titles in the EPL and in Europe? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:35pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
eph12: We won't play big teams every weekend. Out of 38 matches, there are only 8 big matches Linagard was our best player in Ole's first match. And has bailed us out against small teams. The fact, he has been our most consistent attacking player for years. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:32pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
What is the definition of productivity?
What is the productivity of:
Modric, Isco, Iniesta, ? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:16pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
It is when we play many matches and the big teams you people are going to appreciate what Lingard brings to a game.
There are some players who are not as tricky as other ones with great foot work. But they are consistent and are big game players. They hardly fall flat. Similar players were JS Park and Tevez. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:06pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
eph12: Aside the extra goals from time to time, what else does Lingard bring to the team? What does he do when he's not scoring? Same for Willian Lingard is the best in terms of working off the ball. He is also the most consistent attacking player we have. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:04pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
patrickmuf: Please just stop with this your Willian thingy, dude is very unproductive, at least Lingard pops up with a fair amount of goals, what exactly does Willian bring to the table? It's not like we are still coached by Mourinho where we need defensive minded wingers or AMF we need attackers who can press from the front and do maximum damage up top, not those who will track back, recover the ball and lose it in midfield. Instead of angling for OGS to promote Greenwood, Chong and Gomes, you are hoping we get Willian. Even if it's for free, hell naw... Just look at the bolded, a wasteman like Willian shouldn't even have that option when Huddersfield reaches out to him. If depends on the set up you play in. William will do fine in an attacking set up. Abeg, that Gomes is not ready yet. Even Pereira |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:13pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
PietroRick: I agree but the question here is how far will you be willing to go to bring them to your team? I don't know how to answer this. We already have Valencia, Young. As for William, it depends on what price he goes for and whether he is willing to move. Although someone like him might stifle the growth of Lingard because I see some similarity in their game. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 12:07pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
eph12: Which better? Second assist? What next? Third and fourth assist? Better than the young players who cannot defend and cannot give even 3rd,4th,5th Assist.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:55am On Dec 31, 2018 |
PietroRick: I know you also like Ashley Young and Valencia , but you will not sanction 60m for their purchase if you have the opportunity, or even half of that. They are old and playing their last football. But their last football still better than that of many young players. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:44pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Lukaku's first touch when he came on  . It was so heavy that it showed he will be the odd man out in the new set up. We might not have a CB on the bench in the next three games. This is not the time for such nonsense. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:39pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Lana1: Fellaini, Bailly, Rojo, Darmian really need to bounce this January.
Also need to get a quality CB like VVD to partner with Lindelof Why can't we give these players a chance? I beg I am not in for Bailly and Rojo to be sold. It think they have much to offer. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:36pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
PietroRick: Woodward may be a tool but God bless him for not allowing mourinho bring Willian, perisic and Boateng to this club. Possibly losing martial too, in exchange for one of those bums.
Na another song we for dey sing now I like William |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:35pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
eph12: How can you say he started the move? How did the ball get to him? Who is the Assist of the assist man?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:05pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
lekkie073: he wasn't playing poorly. Jose was limiting his game. If doesn't matter, we commented on what we saw. Now we can comment on what we see differently. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:03pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
eph12: You have started with this your second assist again o  Yes na. He started the moves for our first two. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:53pm On Dec 30, 2018 |
Matic with defence splitting passes.
Young with two second Assists. |