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 Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Showed Me The Souls Of The Dead That Were Captured by Elijah78: 12:17pm On Jul 15, 2014 |
tdcministry: To be righteous mean to love GodTo be righteous means to be obedient to God |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Showed Me The Souls Of The Dead That Were Captured by Elijah78: 8:41am On Jul 15, 2014 |
tdcministry: I can see that you are confused. Are you against the Bible?I am not against the bible, you said there is a difference between studying and reading the bible. so i am just trying to ''fix'' you, so that you give me a clear answer. Tell me the difference between studying and reading the bible. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Showed Me The Souls Of The Dead That Were Captured by Elijah78: 8:38am On Jul 15, 2014 |
tdcministry: The devil don't give revelation that create Holiness in people; his revelations make people religious and not righteousIf the scripture says satan has transform himself into an angel of light, it means equally that he is able to give instructions that make people look/think as if they were righteous. Okay Pastor, tell me, what do you understand by righteousness? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Which Of These Churches Will Jesus Accept And Attend? by Elijah78: 8:31am On Jul 15, 2014 |
larrymoore: God is not an author of confusion, why are his people divided?Good question, i wish these so cll pastors come and clarify us. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 7:32am On Jul 15, 2014 |
Psalms 50 verse 23. "Those who bring their offerings to Me and are thankful for the opportunity understand the value of what I have to offer. And the one who lives in this way I will show the salvation of God." |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Sermon On The Mount-know In Simple Terms How Jesus Wants You To Live by Elijah78(op): 7:17am On Jul 15, 2014 |
Matthew 5: Chapter 7 1.It’s not for you to decide what’s right or wrong for others. Keep your nose out of their business, unless that’s how you want to be treated. 2.Because if you do it to others, they’ll do it to you. Then it becomes a vicious cycle of everyone interfering in everyone else’s life. 3.You may think you have a real talent for spotting other people’s problems. But how good are you at seeing your own? After all, they’re the ones you need to be dealing with. 4.You have to be your own first priority. You can’t spend all your time pretending to "help" others with their problems, while you ignore your own. 5.That kind of super-spiritual attitude is useless! True righteousness only comes when people face their faults and weaknesses with God in confession and repentance. Then they can understand how to truly help others by encouraging them to do the same. 6.And, it’s not for you to decide who should or who shouldn’t hear the truth of God’s word. Don’t you know the purpose of the Good News is to show how God loves everyone, regardless of how undeserving or unacceptable you might think they are? 7.Be persistent when you need the Father’s help. It proves your reliance on Him. When you ask Him for help over and over again, it proves that He’s your only source. When you consistently pursue Him, it proves you really want to know Him. And when you look only to Him for guidance, it proves you want to follow Him. 8.Then, when you show the Father you’re depending on Him alone, He’ll honor your trust and reveal Himself to you. 9.Your Heavenly Father is just like any earthly father who truly loves his children. And He will not betray your trust or disappoint your reliance on Him. 10.If you ask Him for something good or useful or needful, could He disregard your request and give you something evil or harmful instead? Of course not! 11.Even as bad as some parents are, they still take pleasure in giving good things to their children. Your Heavenly Father, Who is perfect, takes even greater pleasure in giving good things to His children. 12.And remember, this is the standard the Father has set; when you think about how you want others to treat you, take the initiative and treat them that exact same way. Because when you consider everything the Father has ever revealed to man, it boils down to this one thing: always be willing to use anything the Father has given you to be a blessing to others. This is what makes Him proud of His children! 13.Take the difficult path on your way to life in God. Everyone looks for the easy way, but they end up being led astray. [Prosperity message followers note the above] 14.The truth is, the path to life in God is full of suffering, obstacles and adversity. Most people don't want to believe that, so they allow themselves to be deceived and go the wrong way. Only a few are willing to persevere and take the difficult path. 15.And be careful. There are those who pretend to hear from God, but are, in reality, deceived themselves. They’ll tell you what you want to hear. It’ll sound really good. They’ll be sincere. But if you listen to them, you’ll be sorry. And unfortunately, for many of them, religion is just another way to take advantage of people and get ahead in the world.  [b]in reference to verse 15 above, you see men of God, they sell books, collect tithes/offering, all types of offerings including shiloh, hezekial, chronicles etc offerings name it, daily devotionals, CDs, anointing wtaer/oils/handkerchiefts, sowing to tap the anointing from the pulpit etc and make real wealth and accuse you you lake faith to make wealth, huhuhuh. God is watching... [/b]16.And sometimes these guys are hard to spot. But this is the key: look for Godly character. Don’t be fooled by their apparent success, their good looks or their talent. 17.Just remember. Good people do good things. If they’re principled people with right spiritual values, it will not be in their nature to want to manipulate you and take advantage of you. They’ll only want you to know the truth. 18.So get to know them. Don’t just listen to what they have to say. Look closely at their lives. 19.If it turns out they’re not what they claim, get away from them. The Father will deal with them when the proper time comes. 20.And if they’re genuine, you’ll know it because they’ll continually encourage and bless you. 21.Simply looking and acting religious will not guarantee you entrance into heaven. There’s a world of difference between doing your own thing and being obedient to the will of the Father. 22.On that final day, there will be many that will want to talk about all the religious things they did that impressed so many people. 23.Then I’ll tell them, and this will be the first time they have ever really heard My voice, You have to leave now, I don’t know you. We were never intimate. All those things you did that you’re so anxious to talk about had nothing to do with Me. You were just using My name to make yourselves look good. 24.Now, everything I’ve told you today is very important. And if you’re wise, you’ll build your lives on it. The wisdom of God is the firm foundation everyone needs. 25.There are all sorts of unexpected situations and difficult circumstances in this life that can cause you trouble. But, if you’ve built your life on the things I’ve told you, you’ll be able to stand against anything. 26.Just be sure you don’t make this mistake. Many will listen to what I’ve said, but they won’t take it seriously. They’ll follow the world’s so-called experts, instead. These guys are always changing their minds about something, because most everything they do turns out wrong. They’re always coming up with something new to cover their mistakes. ;DIn reference to verse 26 above, pastors and prophets, listen to them, today they say this, when itz no longer working they say that, all in the name of God} God is watching them  27.When you follow the wisdom of the world, your life will be full of insecurity and confusion. And when problems come, your life will crumble, and you won’t be able to fix it. 28.Now, when Jesus was finished, the people were confused, not only because of what He said, but how He said it. 29.They were used to listening to the public teachers. They liked to quote religious scholars and recite their traditional teachings. But Jesus spoke of Himself and of God as His Father. And He had an unfamiliar boldness and confidence when He spoke. [s]End of the sermon on the mountain. A model of a church service.[/s] http://www.voiceofonecrying.com/sermon_on_the_mount.htm Copyright 2001 © Community Fellowship The reproduction and non-commercial use of this material is permitted. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Budget Woes Force Heaven To Reduce Eternal Life To 500 Billion Years by Elijah78: 3:11pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 3:03pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
adanduka: I believe you can summarize with simple, straight to the point words.Thanks for the advice, will see if i will be able to do that in subsequent posts, and then attach the link! |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 3:02pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
So, what’s Jesus saying here? Tithing is a principle that should be followed. It’s the right thing to do. In the above translation you see "more difficult things" where the word "weightier matters" is found in the KJV. "Weightier" is the comparative degree, neuter plural of barus and is used to illustrate the fact that tithing is easy compared to the other things mentioned. And hold on to the seat of your pants, if you don’t, you might go through the roof when you read the next sentence. If tithing is the easy thing, what does that say about the spiritual condition of those who don’t tithe? If they can’t do what’s easy, how can they ever do what’s more difficult? Jesus talks about this in one of His parables and we’ll look at it towards the end of this paper. Now, I hope I’ve at least established that giving or tithing is a valid, foundational principle. The next question is, since we serve an unseen God, to whom do we give our tithes and offerings? There is a short answer to that; but I’m not partial to short answers, so I’ll give you the long one instead. Actually, the short answer is, the priest. The long answer is an explanation of the development of the priesthood. The function of the priest has remained constant over time from Adam until now. The priest represents God before the people and the one thing that validates the priesthood is revelation, which I’ll talk about a little later. In the Old Testament the first priests were heads of the family, the first-born male. Adam was the first priest, and though details are sketchy, it remains to be seen whether or not he, Eve or firstborn son Cain benefited from his priesthood and the revelation God had given him. However, Jesus tells us Abel, his second-born, was a righteous man (Matthew 23:35). It’s clear from what we see in the record that Noah functioned as the family priest (Genesis 8:20-21). It’s also clear that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were family priests. You should remember from the paper "Walking With God" that Jacob stole the right to be the family priest from his older brother Esau, who had no interest in it, then carried out his priestly duties with God’s blessing (Genesis 25:29-34, 27:1-46, 35:1-15 with Hebrews 12:16-17). Job, a contemporary and most likely a personal acquaintance of Moses, was a family priest (Job 1:1-5, 4:3-4). I’ve alluded to the family priest in earlier papers in my mention of Jethro, the priest of Midian. Jethro, a direct descendant of Abraham through his son Midian (Genesis 25:1-6), taught Moses the ways of God during those 40 years Moses spent in the desert in preparation for the task of leading Israel out of Egypt (Exodus 2:15-16, 3:1). End http://www.voiceofonecrying.com/avoiding_the_dog_and_hog_disease%20Part%202.htm Copyright 2002 © Community Fellowship The reproduction and non-commercial use of this material is permitted. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 3:00pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
And while I’m here let me mention one more thing before we move on. The very reason I bring up the idea that giving is only one of several foundational principles is to let everyone know that even though it’s important, it does not stand alone as the only thing that’s required. I say this because there are those who really don’t mind giving, but tend to think that as long as they’re doing that, they don’t have to do anything else! This is where I give you the verse that affirms tithing in the New Testament. I can kill two birds with one stone. Let me quote you the verse, then I’ll explain. This is Matthew 23:23. "Woe to you scribes, Pharisees, hypocrites! You’re careful to give a tenth of your mint and dill and cumin, but you neglect the more difficult things that are required, such as justice, mercy and faith. These are what you should be careful to do without neglecting the other." OK. First of all, let me point out that Jesus is confirming the fact that tithing is something that ought to be done. Here’s your New Testament verse. It was never Jesus’ purpose to do away with anything that had already been established by the eternal God Who does not change (Numbers 23:19,Malachi 3:6, James 1:17). He came to add to what had already been established, make it complete and finish it (Matthew 5:17). So, here He affirms that tithing is something that is still required. But at the same time He makes it clear that tithing is not the only thing. In fact, He identifies tithing as one of the easier things when compared to justice, mercy and faith. Let’s look at this a little more closely so we can get a better perspective on what Jesus is saying. We can start by breaking down these three words. "Justice" is krisis and means, "a separation". It’s used to illustrate the process of separating right from wrong with an emphasis on doing what is right in our actions towards others. "Mercy" is eleos, used to describe a concern for the misery of others that has come as a result of their lack of submission and obedience to God, and must be accompanied with a willingness to help. And "faith" is pistis, the on-going action of experiencing God as a result of submission and obedience to Him. To be continued.................. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 2:58pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Giving helps us keep things in proper perspective as we pursue God. God knows that, and that’s why He requires it. That’s why it’s part of the deal. Think about it. At the beginning of this paper I said giving is a foundational principle. Are there other foundational principles? What about suffering? It’s a foundational principle. Suffering is essential. It keeps us from thinking we’re invincible and makes it difficult for us to delude ourselves into thinking we’re in total control of our lives. Suffering is part of the deal. What about the requirement of forgiving others to obtain the Father’s forgiveness? This is another foundational principle. It keeps us from becoming arrogant, self-centered and insensitive. We have to have that. God knows it, that’s why it’s part of the deal. What about discipline and correction? Should they be optional? Of course not! They’re foundational. We absolutely need God to train us so we can understand His righteousness and justice. How else would we know them? Our flesh wants nothing to do with any of those things. I could go on, there are others; but you get the idea. Now, why are they foundational? Why are they necessary? Because they force us to deal with our flesh, they force us to reject our flesh. In reality, they’re God’s way of giving us the opportunity to kill our flesh. Remember what deliverance (salvation) is? God wants to change us from what we are into who He is. He wants to conform us to the image of His Son. He wants us to be partakers of His nature, to share in Who He is and what He does. That’s His covenant offer, His conditional promise. And He promises to do His part, but only if we’re willing to submit to what He requires. To be continued............... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 2:57pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Verses 16 and 17 go something like this. "But to the wicked God says, What right do you have to recite in detail what is due Me or talk about My covenant? You disregard My instruction and treat My words like trash."And in the next couple of verses He accuses them of giving their approval to the hurtful, sinful actions of others, of being evil and deceitful and of making false accusations against others for their own gain. Then we come to verses 21 and 22. "All these things you have done. And because I was silent, you thought I approved. But I will come and rebuke you to your face. Think this over carefully those of you who forget God, I’m coming to tear you in pieces and no one can save you." The Psalm then ends with God’s statement regarding the perspective of covenant as it relates to eternity. This is verse 23. "Those who bring their offerings to Me and are thankful for the opportunity understand the value of what I have to offer. And the one who lives in this way I will show the salvation of God." The key words used in the beginning of this verse are the same as those in verse 14 above. They are zavach (to bring an offering) andtodah (thankfulness). Then, where most translations have "glorifies", I use "understand the value". The word is kavad and in this context means, "to esteem or highly value". To be continued......................... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 2:55pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Psalm 50 presents two perspectives of covenant. The first is covenant as it relates to time; the second is covenant as it relates to eternity. Verses 14 and 15 are talking about covenant in time. If you’re holding up your end of the bargain (paying your vows), then God promises to take care of you in time. This is an aspect of giving that is a recurring theme in Scripture. We’ll see it several times before this paper is finished. When we get to the last verse (23) of this Psalm, we’ll see what God says about covenant as it relates to eternity. The next 7 verses (16-22) are directed towards the "wicked", those who have forsaken or rejected God’s covenant offer. And, for your consideration, the New Testament equivalent to this Old Testament covenant offer is "grace". If you’ve read the paper "Grace, Faith and Salvation", then you may remember that in it I explain why "grace" is not "unconditional favor" as religion likes to define it. "Grace" is our opportunity to pursue God and know Him; but it’s clear that pursuit must be undertaken according to the conditions God requires. And the process of meeting those requirements and experiencing God as a result is "faith". Abraham knew God by faith (his experiences with God that came as a result of his submission and obedience), not by what he read in books or heard in sermons. Abraham’s "faith" certainly had nothing to do with a denominational statement of doctrinal beliefs. To be continued......................... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 2:54pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Then God makes a statement in verses 14 and 15 that confirms just what is involved in keeping covenant with Him. "Bring your offerings to Me and be thankful, pay your vows to the Most High. Then you can call on Me when trouble comes, I’ll rescue you and you can honor Me." Most translations start verse 14 with "offer" instead of "bring your offerings". The verb is zavach mentioned above where the noun form zevach is found in verse 5. Zavach is always used to describe offerings that were brought at the expense of the individual. As we’ll see in a later discussion, only healthy, valuable animals, the best flour, the best oil or wine and the purest spices for incense could be offered to God. Here God is telling them to do what they’ve been instructed to do and be thankful for the opportunity. The statement about being thankful goes straight to the matter of proving in a personal, practical way that relationship with God and spiritual matters are important, valuable, and worth paying a price to obtain, something I’ll say more about later. And when He tells them to pay their vows, the word isneder, the same word mentioned earlier in the passage about Jacob making a vow. Neder describes the conditions or requirements of a covenant. To be continued......................... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 2:52pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Verse 6 tells us the heavens will testify to the accuracy and fairness of God’s judgment. Then in verse 7 God says He has something to say against Israel and reminds them that He’s not just God, He’s their God. And in verse 8 He begins to explain what He has against them by saying, "I’m not going to argue with you about the sacrifices and burnt offerings that were to have been brought continually to Me." In most translations you’ll see "reprove" where I say, "argue". The word yakhach comes from a root that means, "to be right" and by implication means, "to argue or dispute". In other words, God isn’t going to argue about the fact that they were supposed to have been giving offerings to Him, but hadn’t; He’s always right. That’s why He’s God. He goes on to explain that He doesn’t require offerings because He needs them (verse 9), that, in fact, every animal that exists already belongs to Him (verse 10), that He knows every bird that flies and every wild animal that exists (verse 11), that He’s not hungry, and even if He was, everything in the world that satisfies hunger is already His (verse 12) and that He’s not looking for something to eat (verse 13). To be continued......................... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 2:51pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
The next couple of verses tell us that God intends to judge the earth. His judgment will be fair, accurate, in your face, destructive and disastrous. And because of the context, you can be sure His judgment will be based on man’s response (or lack of it) to the covenant messages that had been given. This brings us to verse 5. "Gather together those who have responded to My grace, those who have entered into covenant with Me by their offerings." Most translations have "saints" where you see "those who have responded to my grace" in the translation above. The word is chasid, and is used to describe those who have answered God’s summons with submission and obedience. They are then described in the next phrase as those who have entered into covenant with God by holding up their end of the bargain. And how did they do that? They gave offerings to Him. The word is "sacrifice" in most translations. The Hebrew word is zevach and is a word that came from the verb zavach, which means, "to slaughter or kill", but came to be used in the Old Testament as a general term to designate any type of offering given to God. I’ll say it again, Adam understood it, Cain and Abel understood it, Abraham understood it, Jacob understood it, and now the Psalmist makes it clear that he understood it as well. Giving is part of the deal. To be continued......................... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 2:50pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Then, "summons" above ("called" in the KJV) is qara. The basic meaning of this word is "the pronouncement of a specific message, to a specific recipient in order to elicit a specific response". I guess the key word here is "specific". In other words, this Psalm is about a particular, definitive message God had been speaking and the fact that He expected a response to that message. And further, the last part of the verse about the rising and setting of the sun is used to illustrate the fact that He had been doing this continuously. And I have to stop here and say this verse is another of many that illustrates the reality of just what a personal relationship with God is all about. God communicates with man, revealing Himself and His message with the desire and expectation that man will respond to what He has said. This is two-way communication, an example of the personal involvement and participation of God in the lives of men. Those who say they have a "personal" relationship with God, but only participate in religious forms and rituals are deceiving themselves. God has always wanted us to have a personal relationship with Him and the reality of that relationship is always found in revelation regarding His will and purpose; relationship with God void of revelation is not really relationship at all, it’s religion. To be continued......................... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 2:49pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Let’s look at Psalms 50 [/b]and you can see what I mean. Since this is a long passage, I’ll not quote it all. This is a prophetic Psalm of Asaph and reveals the heart and mind of God on the subject at hand. [b]And, by the way, when I say this is a prophetic Psalm, I don’t mean that it foretells future events. It’s prophetic because it proclaims and interprets the Divine will and purpose, always the primary function of the prophetic. This is verse 1. "The Mighty One, God the Lord has revealed Himself to the earth and summons them to respond to His call, from the rising of the sun to the time it sets." In this opening verse God speaks to the earth, revealing Himself and His purpose, and then He summons them to respond. The word translated "revealed" above ("hath spoken" in the KJV) is dhavar, one of the most generic words in the Old Testament. It can mean either mental or oral communication and is translated into about 30 different English words in the KJV. Obviously, the meaning is determined by the context. When God reveals Himself to the inhabitants of the earth, it usually means one thing – He’s revealing His will and purpose so we can know Him and have relationship with Him. And that will and purpose always comes in the form of a covenant agreement. To be continued................... |
| Christianity Etc › Psalms 50 - Reveals The Heart And Mind Of God On Giving/tithing by Elijah78(op): 2:47pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Genesis 20 verses 20-22 that is significant to what I’m going to develop here, so I’ll quote it for you. This is what he says. "Then Jacob made a vow, saying, Since God is with me to keep me in this course of life that He has promised and will give me food to eat and clothes to wear and will bring me back to my father’s house in safety, the Lord will be my God. And this stone which I have set as a monument will be the house of God and of all the increase You give me I will surely give the tenth to You." In addition to the obvious reference to the tithe in the last part of this statement, I want you to notice the first part where it says, "Then Jacob made a vow". The word for vow here is neder and means "promise". This word is used to illustrate the conditions of a covenant. In other words, when you look at this passage it is Jacob’s response to the covenant God reaffirmed with him earlier. What has to be understood is that God’s covenants were never without conditions or requirements. It’s the same as what I’ve said so many times before; God never offers anything unconditionally. There are always conditions to be met, requirements to be fulfilled. There is never a free ride where God is concerned. If you want what He offers, you must do what He says. In this passage Jacob is following his grandfather’s example, committed to keeping what was required on his part in a covenant agreement with God. The very idea of a covenant makes this obvious. A covenant (the Hebrew term is berith, and means agreement or stipulation) is not an unconditional, one-sided promise; instead, it’s a conditional agreement under which both parties involved have responsibilities. In the passage above Jacob confirms his understanding of this when he says, essentially, since God is going to do thus and so, I’m going to hold up my part of the bargain and do what I’m supposed to do. Which brings us back to what I said earlier; those who choose to enter into covenant with God for His deliverance are not free of responsibility, and giving to Him is part of the deal. Adam understood it, Cain and Abel understood it; Abraham understood it; and Jacob understood it too. To be continued....... 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Questions That Baffle Me About God by Elijah78: 2:35pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
macof: Op, just dump religion and follow your consciousnessWell said!!!!! I have a friend who is asking same questions like the OP and i feel this is just the answer....Follow your conscience. Period |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by Elijah78: 2:11pm On Jul 14, 2014*. Modified: 2:28pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Though i do not support the enrichment of institutional religion on fleecing money from men in the name of tithes, i am totally against your idea OP From the beginning of time God has required offerings as an expression of submission and obedience. Those who wanted to enter into covenant with Him had to be willing to pay the price. They had to prove their devotion and commitment to Him, not once, but over and over again. He didn’t require them because He needed them, but because men needed to be willing to give them. The willingness to give to God is one of the few things that put us in a place where we can appreciate the value of what God is offering us, not just in time, but also in eternity. God wants to change us from what we are into who He is. He wants to conform us to the image of His Son. He wants us to be partakers of His nature, to share in Who He is and what He does. That’s His covenant offer, His conditional promise. And He promises to do His part, but only if we’re willing to submit to what He requires. When you look at psalms 50; God said [b] verse 5. "Gather together those who have responded to My grace, those who have entered into covenant with Me by their offerings." Apart from that, Read Genesis 28:10-22 Verse 20-22 "Then Jacob made a vow, saying, Since God is with me to keep me in this course of life that He has promised and will give me food to eat and clothes to wear and will bring me back to my father’s house in safety, the Lord will be my God. And this stone which I have set as a monument will be the house of God and of all the increase You give me I will surely give the tenth to You." This is Matthew 23:23. "Woe to you scribes, Pharisees, hypocrites! [b]You’re careful to give a tenth [/b]of your mint and dill and cumin, but you neglect the more difficult things that are required, such as justice, mercy and faith. These are what you should be careful to do without neglecting the other." With God all things are conditional, he says, do this and i will do this, he is a covenant keeping God |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Africans The Only People Who Does Not Worship A God How Looks Like Them by Elijah78: 1:39pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Seastone: Why are Africans the only people who does not worship a God how looks like them self's?Matthew 6 8.So don’t be like those who have no relationship with a real, living God. They repeat the same words over and over again to lifeless images that can’t hear. Your Father is much different than that. He knows what you need, even before you ask. 32.Relax! Those are the questions people ask when they don’t know the real God........................................... Know God first and all your questions will be answered. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Interesting Questions, Who Wants To Try Answering Them? by Elijah78: 1:31pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Matthew 6: Verse 17.And don’t spend all your time trying to accumulate the material things this world has to offer. You may think those things make your life secure, but they don’t. They’re easier to lose than they are to get. Believers are told to not to spend time accumulating wealth. These are barriers that might not apply to unbelievers. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Seeking The Face Of God - The Journey by Elijah78: 1:05pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Predestination? by Elijah78: 12:57pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
Never use the word predestination to refer to people, they don’t. Always use it in reference to God’s plan. God never predestined anyone to either heaven or hell. He predestined a plan that would determine it. God will never interfere with our free will. Love is only real and valuable when there is choice. http://www.voiceofonecrying.com/Grace,Faith%20and%20the%20Rest%20of%20God.htm |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Sermon On The Mount-know In Simple Terms How Jesus Wants You To Live by Elijah78(op): 12:32pm On Jul 14, 2014 |
22.If you understand what I’m saying, you’ll know what to do. And you’ll do the right thing. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: The Sermon On The Mount-know In Simple Terms How Jesus Wants You To Live by Elijah78(op): 9:29am On Jul 14, 2014*. Modified: 7:28am On Jul 15, 2014 |
Matthew 5 : Chapter 6 1.Be careful you don’t do the good things you do just so others can see you do them. If recognition and approval from men is all that motivates you to help others, don’t expect God to reward you too. After all, why are you really doing it? If it’s to get others to notice you, then you’re only doing it for yourself and their attention is your reward. 2.So, when you do good things for others, don’t make a big deal out of it. Do it quietly, so the only ones who know about it are the people you help and your Father in Heaven. 3.Always guard yourselves from wrong intentions. 4.Do your good deeds secretly. Then your Father in Heaven will bless you in ways everyone will notice. You have to decide which is better, the approval of men or the approval of God. 5.And when you pray, don’t be religious about it. Don’t recite long, flowery prayers in public, where everyone can hear. Who are you talking to? 6.If you’re talking to God, go to a quiet, private place and just talk to Him. Then He’ll honor your personal, heart-felt prayers by blessing you in ways that show you really do talk to Him. 7.Just try to be yourself. There’s something false and impersonal about reciting the same, old, tired, worn-out formulas. Remember this, the Father responds to sincerity, not to the length of the prayer. 8.So don’t be like those who have no relationship with a real, living God. They repeat the same words over and over again to lifeless images that can’t hear. Your Father is much different than that. He knows what you need, even before you ask. 9.And this is how you should pray. Talk to your Father in Heaven like you would talk to your earthly father, with affection and respect, only acknowledge that He deserves honor and reverence that is greater than any man. 10.Tell Him about your desire to see His Kingdom revealed in your life. Tell Him you only want what He wants, so that His will can be seen here on the earth, just like it is in His heavenly domain. 11.Ask Him to give you just what you need for every day. 12.Then ask Him to forgive your trespasses and sins. But tell Him you understand that your forgiveness is based on your own willingness to forgive those who have trespassed against you. 13.And finally, ask Him to protect you from yourself and from all the evil that surrounds you in the world. 14.Then remember, if you’re willing to forgive others, then your Heavenly Father will forgive you as well. 15.But, if you’re not willing to forgive others, the Father won’t forgive you. When you refuse to forgive others, it’s only because you want to punish them. The Father can’t bless that. 16.And if you’re going to fast, don’t go around looking like you’re about to die, hoping someone will notice and ask you what’s wrong. If you do that, then you’ve gone hungry for nothing. 17.If you’re going to fast, just act normal. 18.Don’t let anyone know what you’re doing. The question is the same. Who are you doing it for? If you’re only seeking the recognition of men, you’ll probably get it. But that’s all you’ll get. 17.And don’t spend all your time trying to accumulate the material things this world has to offer. You may think those things make your life secure, but they don’t. They’re easier to lose than they are to get. 20.Instead, use your time to gather treasures in heaven. There, they’re protected, and you’ll be able to enjoy them through all eternity. 21.You must decide which is more important. You can’t have both. Material things only last as long as you live on this earth. But, spiritual treasures last forever. And this will always be true - the thing you invest your life in is the thing you love the most. 22.If you understand what I’m saying, you’ll know what to do. And you’ll do the right thing. 23.But, if you don’t understand, you’re going to make a serious mistake. The time will come when you’ll realize you’ve made the wrong decision, but it will be too late to do anything about it. You’ll lose all your earthly treasures and have no time left to gather heavenly ones. 24.Don’t think you can do both, you can’t. It’s impossible to pursue God and the things of the world that make you feel secure. The pursuit of one will cause you avoid or neglect the other. 25.And, if you decide to pursue God, don’t worry about what you’re going to eat or drink or whether your clothes are the latest fashion. Because you’ll soon find out there are things much more satisfying than food and more important than clothing. 26.Look at the birds. They’re not worried about all those things. They’re content to just let the Father give them whatever they need. And, since it’s obvious that the Father takes care of the birds, why won’t you trust Him to take care of you? You must know that you’re more important to Him than birds. 27.And why should you worry about your appearance? The latest fashions don’t make you look any different. Don’t you understand you look the same to your Father, regardless of what you’re wearing? 28.So why should you be concerned about clothing? Look at the wildflowers in the fields. They don’t worry about such trivial things. 29.And yet, you must agree that even Solomon, when dressed in his finest, never looked as good. 30.Again, the Father can take care of the flowers, and He knows they live for only a short time and then they’re gone. He’s going to take even better care of you. Why can’t you trust Him? 31.So you never need to wonder, What am I going to eat? Or, What am I going to drink? Or, What am I going to wear? 32.Relax! Those are the questions people ask when they don’t know the real God. But your Heavenly Father knows full well that you need all of these things. 33.When you make the Kingdom of God the most important thing in your life, and become a living demonstration of the Father’s way of doing things right; then He will always make sure you have everything you need. [b]34.And by the way, don’t worry about tomorrow. It will come soon enough. And when it does, it will bring new challenges and opportunities for you to learn to trust your Heavenly Father. But for now, just concentrate on trusting Him to get you through the trouble you’re facing today. http://www.voiceofonecrying.com/sermon_on_the_mount.htm To be continued................ |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Elijah78: 6:54am On Jul 14, 2014 |
Joagbaje: Nobody can speak for others. So I may not agree with your construction above . The point is that god does call people into pastoral ministry . But to determine if Mr A is called into pastoral ministry in not in any mans place to say . Mr A will answer for himself before God. We can deny the enemy do send false ministers .What do you think/say or what does scripture say about the Spirit of Discernment?. How can we neglect this spirit and fleshly sought out for others like spirit of prophecy, knowledge etc, why why why?.........what happened to the spirit of discernment  ?? |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Should A True Christian Stay Away From Church For Fear Of Boko Haram? by Elijah78: 5:08pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
I think you are right but i just want to add that, if God drop it in your spirit that you should not go to church on a particular day or time etc, then just be obedient to Him - that is faith. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Who Called You ? by Elijah78: 5:03pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
Joagbaje: That's called to be saints. We are all called to be saints. This is different from the calling into an office of ministry gift. As pastor prophet apostle evangelist and teacher.Man calls it offices, CAREER, It is man made You know how you guys interpreted this to mean offices to support your continues lawlessness. In our consideration of spiritual gifts, Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, of course, is our expert. There are three major passages, all in Paul’s epistles (I Corinthians 12, Romans 12 and Ephesians 4). Why chose the one that suits you and leave the rest. Flesh!!!! everyone now has chosen to be called to be a prophet, pastor, teacher of the word etc, what about the rest? Offices you say! You who say you've been called, come and answer the question Frosbel asked. I am following...... 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Showed Me The Souls Of The Dead That Were Captured by Elijah78: 4:53pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
tdcministry: The Disciples' Commission MinistryJesus warns us here in Matthew 5 19.It is important that you understand this. [s]There are many that teach what the rules are[/s], you see them everywhere; but those who live by the principles of God’s Word and encourage others to do the same are rare, and they are the ones who will be honored in the Kingdom of Heaven. |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Showed Me The Souls Of The Dead That Were Captured by Elijah78: 4:47pm On Jul 13, 2014 |
tdcministry: The Disciples' Commission MinistryJesus warn us in Matthew 5 35.Things don’t become true just because they’re dressed up in religious-sounding talk. 36.In fact, the more religious it sounds, the more reason you have to be suspicious of it. |
