₦airaland Forum

safarigirl:
na you sabi, I follow you talk?

U follow am talk,oya come beat me

andrew444:
Smile I can also name so many average players in my Barca team,check my post and you will know I am sincere

U can't b average playing for teams like barca,Madrid,man u,Chelsea,Bayern etc... Deres a standard u must meet b4 been considered to sit on d bench let alone of been in dier 1st 11.lost of form can occur happen doesn't mean u are average

forgiveness:
I agree Joel should be dropped if he is not 100% fit but if he is fit, I don't see any reason he should be dropped.

At one point, he was our best CMF when he played together with Mikel Obi.

He was....past glory


We re talking abt now..we cant rely on past glory.

His last 2 appearance for eagles was abysmal... Simple

Icon4s:
Most of those free to air devices did not show live football matches. We found out when we later got ours.

It was when we started watching on DSTV that we really watched live football.

Baba leave dem jare, make dem dey whine demselves ,E sure me say na lie

TheGoodJoe:

I have no problem with that. My point is that a lot of people followed Euro leagues in the 90's. Even though it is a few percentage, that few percentage is a big number of people.

The statement that people claiming that they followed Euro leagues in the nineties is true.

It might not be a large percentage but they were those following.

Arguing that a lot of people did not have access does not change the point that there were people following.

Baba ye mu iro le

TheGoodJoe:
Sad when someone is pointing out a clear fact and someone who has zero idea about it tries to claim Supreme.

I am telling you that I watched Liverpool and Manchester United play FA Cup finals on Multichoice, you are here making fun of a very simple fact. I am even downplaying it. I even posted an article showing Multichoice began operation in 1994 and I am talking 1996 and you are still arguing.

Learn from those who witnessed something and stop sharing ignorance. You were the one who sparked the debate that it was a lie that people followed euro leagues in the nineties. Learn and stop arguing. Multichoice began operations in 1994 in different areas and people were patronizing them, whether you like it or not.

Baba me don hear u

tbaba1234:
Ideye has been given a late call-up to face DRC. I remeber Rohr said, he wanted to play fringe players for that match. No need to risk injury.

If na me b ideye I won't honour it,so me na training material/cover up,meanwhile 5players have showed up in uyo camp,...make me sef first tbaba1234 for info

Icon4s:
Oga, no be for Nigeria then abeg. Less than 1% even in urban centers not to talk of semi-rural and rural areas.

Boss icon4s .u c say I no reply TheGoodjoe abt his claims.


Baba talk.am like say dstv den was very cheap to acquire in pH,I doubt his claims anyway cos if any new thing comes to Nigeria, it would be more rampant in use in Lagos state first b4 any oda part in Nigeria.

I could remember back den aw we would trekk to where dey is free to air satellite dish in Lagos just to catch a glimpse of football till d time AIT came to our rescue in 99-early 2000's showing European football competitions,den later few biz minded persons established viewing centers in early 2000 with dstv,d cyber cafe too came into existence in early 2000 etc


Am sure baba TheGoodjoe fit yan say cybercafe don dey pH tey tey ;Dand ATM MACHINE WAS IN use b4 2007

Anybody wey talk say him use ATM FOR NIGERIA B4 2007 IS LYING

ykalhaji:
Mr man, everybody is different. My first soccer game of importance, was a game in Tunisia 94, where I think Yekinni scored a beautiful goal, the one in which he "height"(like we used to say then) the goal keeper in a one on one situation and then he finished it with his head, I was 8 years then. After that we played Ivory Coast, that one ended in penalty, I remember thinking the Ivory Coast team was better than the super eagles then. The Zambia game I only got the last few minutes because of NEPA. Fast forward to USA 94, by then I had already understood the concept of Soccer, the important players, Maradona, Batistuta before the game started and during the game, the names Mustapha Haji, Roberto and Dino Baggio, Martin Darlene, Bebeto, Romario, Dunga, LaLas, Escobar and a host of others.
So Mr man, every childs comprehension is different the other.

Go and read my reply to M7even post

M7even:
I was 7 years old at the 98' World Cup. That was about my class as well. I was a precocious chap. Followed Nigeria match all through the World Cup. I stumbled upon Brazil playing one day in the group stage. Beautiful football I was attracted to. I immediately sat down that to enjoy a high scoring side, free flowing football that mesmerized my bubbling heart. I'd watch delima Ronaldo display his skills and run on to the Sandy field at oshodi to display my skills with my age groups. Sadly I was 7 no one around me at that point like an age mate to discuss this with. All I did was yearn to listen to adults talk football. At Korea Japan I was in kings college Lagos then. I'd leave the class room to the house masters window to peep and watch the beautiful game. At that point I was a master of the game amongst my colleagues. Wider football knowledge and was barely matched in football and sports by any colleague. My academics performance dwindled, my mum was so worried she needed take drastic actions, hence, she would beat me if I played football let alone watch football. I struggled with this as I just loved the game. This really killed my intense interest in the game.

All dis things are normal,I love d game too..d question is at ur age den could u differentiate each players position like u do now
Differentiate BTW a LWB from LB judging @ d formation switch from 4-5-1 to 3-5-2,identify each formations teams were using d likes 3-6-1,4-1-4-1,4-3-3, and tactical switch,when a coach makes tactical change when his team is one man down(a child of den would think he changed d player because he was tired or injured)


I could remember a scenario during Atlanta 96 when KANU scored,he expected d game to play on,and he was surprise d referee blew d end of d game.he was later tutored abt d "golden gold rule" den same age of @7


Just like boss mujtahilda will say,at DT age den u belong to d class of who score,who dribble and not having comprehensive in depth analysis of d game

So any oda moniker claiming to knw what he/she understand what transpired in a game at age 8years below..same explanation goes to u

Joebie:
No be tactically inclined matter. Tactical might mean “according to my tactics”
At the end of the day, the coach gets the full blame if the team fails.

Well na true sha o ri so


So "according to rohr tactics too" he might not select Mikel to d tourney

asha80:
it is funny.. if fellaini was dropped I wouldn't have been surprised but niangolan?? well na coach know

So wetin sir forgiveness go talk abt DT one

asha80:
Belgium drops niangolan but picks fellaini.. weird

Claiming it was a tactical decision... So those he chose are more tactically inclined Dan nanigolan in d midfield dept?

kennysville:
Dont be so quick my bro.... there are kids that actually had understanding of the game back then. Its all about interest. I remember the 86 world cup. There was a dude in my primary school who could list the starting 11 of Argentina. We used to fight on which country to choose when playing "table soccer " with bottle covers. And paste calender numbers on the cover to depict jerseys. Children of today are hounded in the house. Its all about playstation and XBox today

Its DT same PlayStation and Xbox made dem to get expose about d game quickly in terms of diff set of formations,tactics etc...kids of den wc include ur friend doesn't knw what 4-4-2,4-5-1,4-3-3,4-1-4-1,3-6-1, etc is.the evolution of PlayStation made todays kid exposed to in depth tactics of diff play,what WB is,CM is,AMF is,SS ,etc is...am sure ur friend back den couldn't differentiate BTW SS AND FW,back den we all call dem STRIKERS,same as Mujtalhida,asha80,am sure dey couldn't differentiate BTW AMF from CM,when dey claimed dey started watching football as kids back den,we all call dem midfielders but kids of today will differentiate all d players roles for u conveniently due to d exposure dey encountered thru different formations in PlayStation games DT was not available to us back den,we na canters,rub,sometimes we heat candles into d canters to make dem stronger, kids of today don't do all dt


I also did what u said ur friend could do back den,me sef sabi players name

But I doubt if ur friend den could differentiate BTW a LWB AND A LB,KIDS OF TDAY CAN DO DT CONVINCINGLY, due to d help PlayStation, FOOTBALL MANAGER ET AL,WC we no get dt time

If ur friend can do DT,den he belongs to d category of who score, who dribble, like what boss Mujtalhida will say,

Mujtahida:
Name the starting eleven of our Afcon winning team of 2013 without checking Internet. I told you that you are reading today's over emphasis on tactical into football of the past. Do you know that arsenal was just a rowdy set of drunks and smokers when arsene Wenger came in 1996? Do you know that as at 1987 some football teams were just made up of non professional players? In the midst of all our discussions yesterday I even went and watched highlights of Owen's goals. Baba come see ugly pitches. The game has progressed. Heck some people calling themselves coaches as at 87 were nothing but motivational speakers. Go watch Nig v England 1995 friendly. Niger used 4-4-2, England same thing. You know why? Tactical awareness was very limited then. So if he says he understood then as at 87,you should understand that he understood it based on the knowledge of football prevailing at that time-- who score, who dribble, who win, shikena

Baba u don win

asha80:
I once quoted you and said as at USA 94 (14yrs) I was aware of formations.. check your mentions.. don't see how it is different from what you are saying now... but you disagreed earlier that as an 8yr old one couldn't wait in apprehension to watch a match on tv

U sha don get my point

asha80:
who said anything about knowing formations as a 7yr old? I knew players not formation.. I would wait to watch matches on tv then to see who wins, the goals and excitement .. it is from 1993 that I started getting ideas about formations.. no need to doubt all these things.. if you still doubt me go and check whether Canada 87 final against Soviet union was a sunshine match (as I alluded to ) or played under floodlight

Simple as ABC,from ur point above, it was from 93 when u were 13years u began to comprehend d game in depth

asha80:
i wonder what is he us doubting it for.. people had different experiences.. as 14yr old leading up to 1994 nations and world cup I was already an avid reader of complete football and international soccer review magazines that you could get in newspaper stands

Baba dis ball we talking of self,even as as today some ardent fan of football don't knw d basic rules if u engage dem,such do happen on dis forum at times

And u want to tell me DT as an 8year old below can analyse different formation like 4-5-1,4-4-2,4-3-3,den as at 92,94,96 year

Me I no believe una o

Okay let me ask u a question, and please b sincere don't check d internet,d Chile 87 u claimed to watch

Wc formation did Nigeria used against Canada in died 2-2,name d starting 11,if u truly u comprehend what u watched as at age 7 den.I knw u can't analyse it

But am sure if I ask u d formations and line ups most teams used from 98 till present,u go tell me wout d help of internet.

Mujtahida:
NTA sports channel 10. Rothmans of Pallmall(if I were to be a smoker, I'm sure na Rothmans I for smoke). I can still see myself going to Mukaila my friend's house to watch the matches. The only thing is that sometimes power supply would be unavailable. They will show last week's match this week and almost all the highlights.

NTA rothmans only showed German league,


No local TV station showed premiership b4 2000

It was DBN...DT SHOWED premier league replayed matches on Monday night,most times Man U games

Mujtahida:
See if we had picked interests from say age 4 we would have remembered vividly. Thing is most of us didn't pick interest in it cos growing up as kids our lives were about play. And you can see many here remembering the names of wrestlers cos that was what captured our imagination.

And football didn't have the global appeal it has today. So while Rashidi had welts on his back, parents today give birth to a child and one of the first things they buy is a ball. So naturally you can find an 8-10 year old child being more tactically aware than we were cos most of us, our interest picked up only in our mid - late teens.

So elyte89 it has nothing to do with intelligence but rather with consciousness or what the Germans call zeitgeist - the spirit of the times.

Bro,my simple point is u can't analyse d game den d way u re analysing it now or 10years back,boss icon4s and odas don get my point


And for asha80,picking interest den was largely on d pitch of play,children den would give deirself "nicknames" of popular footballer reigning den.I can remember vividly DT we do fight for d name rashidi yekini when we want to play 3aside and not an 8year old child or below sticking glue to a TV set b4 a match having d intention to watch live matches as we do now as adult,but kids of today, are more interested in watching live matches, I c dem very well in viewing centers arguing passionately prior to d match,emergence of viewing centers,internet in early 2000,made d sport more popular among kids now, meanwhile those who got to watch it den was thru default, maybe d family is watching d match or ur uncle or fada took u along to a place where dey re watching d match when NEPA took light at home.


U dare not go out as a kid at night to watch matches den as a kid.but come area now,even if d match 11pm,kids of ages 8-10 will come and watch ball

Mujtahida:
No talk wetin you no know abeg. You are just making bland, general and false statements. I started watching premiership in 1996. That was the year Arsene Wenger came to Arsenal. I remember Marc Overmars, I remember Bergkamp, Teddy Sheringham, Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, Peter schiemechel, Dwight Yorke, Andy Cole, Lucas Radebe for Leeds, I remember in 98 Moustapha Hadji played for Coventry, I remember Paul Ince, I remember Robbie fowler, I remember when Owen came on the scene even before France 98, I remember Alan shearer of Newcastle, Amokachi at Everton, Andre Flo, Gullit coached Chelsea as player coach, gianluca Vialli same thing with Chelsea, I remember Ginola, I remember when Klinsmann came to Tottenham, I remember when Arsenal bought Davor Suker after France 98. And the reason was simple:NTA network with Paul Ogazi, Aisha Falode and Emeka Onyadike used to show English premiership every Saturday. I said every Saturday and they were current, as in last week's match will be shown this week and highlights of all the other matches will be shown too. It was basketball before football. I had no interest in basketball but I still remember Jordan, Pippin, Hakeem and Shaquille O'neal and Rodman. On Monday me and my classmates Oche Ochete, Asor Adudu, Andrew Odeh and many others will sit down and talk about the matches. Heck NTA even used to show futball America on Wednesdays. The other leagues I knew by reading complete sports magazine.

Abeg talk wetin you know. Challenge bawo

Where do u get to watch d games week in week out?

Mujtahida:
I was in primary 3 when Nigeria played Angola and I remembered the match even though I wasn't a football fan. It was from that day I heard Sam Okwaraji name.

Daman miracle was still in 89. I didn't watch it though but I was caught up in the excitement. I will never forget how barrack boys were shouting and singing: our goalkeeper na Magnetor, goalkeeper, Magnetor, goalkee, goalkeeper, Magnetor. Fact is I even remember things sharply from my childhood than now. If I take you back to my primary school I can show you where I sat from nursery one to primary six.

Remember is diff from understanding what transpired


Me sef dey remember things die

If na remember, den I will assume I watched d 94 world cup too cos I dey primary 2 or 3 den

Martz101:
totally wrong, you can be 8 and comprehend matches

Kids of today yes,not den bro

safarigirl:
I think he's referring to a certain age group, not everyone.

Anyone that isn't up to 30 years old today, couldn't have really known what went on in the 90's World Cup or Atlanta '96. I think the most he can analyse would be from '98 World Cup.

I even doubt d France 98 sef

Icon4s:
I agree with you, I was only pointing that some people here are even older than you think.

Even at age 12 I didn't understand tactics even though I could name almost all the players in the team.

Just d same way I will rebuff anybody claims here irrespective of ur age DT u watched d foreign leagues most especially premiership,and u live in Nigeria keenly b4 d year 2000,Na fat lie,foreign league football wasn't popular in Nigeria den,due to obvious reason,No internet,No dstv,except for d opulent ones in area who av (satellite dish) only av access, and it was very rare to c we only got to watch National teams competition such as world cup,nations cup,euro and d likes aired by NTA CHANNEL 10 AND 7 ...and once in a while around 97 and 98,NTA DO AIR D ROTHMANS German league in weekends once in a wyle,and also Not to forget DBN too DT shows replayed matches of some premiership team most especially Man u,seems d manager of DBN den was a MAN U fan.

Icon4s:
O boy wetin you dey talk self.

You no know say some people here even watched Argentina '78. Kog45 and Enomakos na lie?

Prio to 1990 AFCON(I was already in Secondary school) I never understood tactics. I only knew names of players.

I learned lots of tactics from the Westerhof's Eagles of Algiers 90.

Read my post well na bro,I put age bracket na


Ages of 4-10years...to some extent 12years too during U.S.A 94,Atalanta 96,France 98 can't understand d nitty gritty of d game.let alone of analysing aw d match went,d side attractions and all,dts d point...one can only scream when odas re screaming too if a goal is scored. Am talking abt den,not now..kids of nowadays I.Q IS TOO HIGH,a kid of 8-10year old will operate i-pad conveniently wout help,u c dem in viewing centers discussing d game passionately.dem sabi analyse ball pass some adult self,

D emergence of internet,cyber cafe,Dstv in early 2000really helped d generation of now

Icon4s:
Well, the first Senior WC I watched was Mexico 86. I also watched little of Euro 84 and AFCON 84(though without much interest). I only watched because I saw people watching and had no choice but to watch.

At France 98 I was already an undergraduate. Though school was on Semester break during the group stages.

Ehen na only icon4s and kog45 fit analyse any competition from USA 94,Italian 90 upward

All dis guys claiming to watch and comprehend what's going on in a match baffles me

I was in primary 4 when Brazil and France played in 98 world cup ,na small remain make we c ,I was 9month old when amokachi scored a beautiful goal against greece ,trying to clinch on d oldies

I no sabi as una dey understand dis games o,at Dt tender age...I bet most of u at DT age bracket watched replay and not d real match ,make una no dey whine us for here


Aw primary 4 piking of DT time comprehend each persons name, position, style of play as at den ,me I no believe o ,kids I.Q den where not as high as today's kid,a kid of 3years can operate i-pad conveniently .


I knew what was football during Atlanta 96,though I can't really comprehend d rules and regulation @ age 7

I didn't watch most games,because I was too naive to understand d rules,d game time wereearly part in d morning,games where played around 11pm,12am,1am,2am.d rules den for kids generally was to sleep after dinner,Max by 9pm,I dey bed
Only my my siblings who re older would go out in d middle of d night to watch games at a popular joint where dey own a generator set...generator set den was very expensive and not to popular among d masses

So abeg in a nutshell,if u re not up to age 13-15years during 94 world cup and 96 Atlanta tourney,stop analysing matches for us

Joebie:
Watching the Getafe match. Success dey ball

Too late bro

PDPGuy:
Still on the “US is overrated matter”

In the US, if one doesn’t have a college degree, that person is much more likely to live in poverty than one who has a college degree.

The poverty rate amongst non-college graduates is 30%, while that of college graduates is less than 5%.

Me I don't want to involve myself b4 in did USA argument. No matter aw overrated USA might b


E better pass nigeria 1billion times , ,any country is better Dan Nigeria ,one guy still go NAMIBIA LAST YEAR for area,my guy don dey form "foreign "




Make I go dere sef 1st,and let me experience aw over- rated it's.

AIG07:
you're really a blessing to this thread. Thanks for ur consistent updates and info.

Na you dem suppose de call "OJUTOLE OJUTOKO".

Ojutole ojutoko GBA ni ,tbaba1234 no dey miss any info


He's arguably d best here in terms of info



And my friend Sir chriskels is d best in " keeping secret"

tbaba1234:
Ebuehi appeared to be limping in his Benfica presentation..

Did guy might just play himself out of d worldcup