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|Sports / Re: Evra claims Edouard Mendy Was Snubbed For The Yashin Trophy Because he's African by emae009(m): 10:10pm On Dec 01|
you can ask silly questions ehn!
They don't rate it as high and it's not the only one, Asia and America too. QED.
Why aren't all the Leagues rated the same even though they are in Europe.
Why be say if a player goes to play in China, we consider him finished. Or if a player goes to MLS, we consider it retirement. Are we fans racists??
Abi you want lie say you don't also fall into the category of fans?
I gave you the answer already you still dey ask me the same question.
you want to believe it's racism you can go ahead.
|Sports / Re: Lewandowski Deserves The Ballon D'or More (Opinion) by emae009(m): 8:40pm On Dec 01|
you said stats but you're only focus on goals scored.
So why was VVD a very strong contender even more than Lewandowski when he was a defender??
You mentioned impact on the team but assumed Lewandowski had more impact than Messi.
Messi was won a record 8th Pichichi but that wasn't all. He went to COPA and was joint top Scorer while giving the most assist in the competition.
The same Euro that Lewandowski couldn't perform Schick of Czech Republic was joined Top Scorer with Ronaldo. He plays for West Ham and isn't even their best player.
Messi created more chances for his teammates than Lewandowski.
His goals got the most pionts for his team than Lewandowski (impact of goal on the team chances of winning a game).
But sure let's all forget about all these stats when talking about impact on the team and focus on who scored the most goals.
You just want to believe Lewandowski was robbed, anything that invalidate that isn't acceptable to you.
like you said Peace. I tired of going back and forth with you when you're putting on the sentiment glasses
|Sports / Re: Evra claims Edouard Mendy Was Snubbed For The Yashin Trophy Because he's African by emae009(m): 8:28pm On Dec 01|
and you're response is the why I structured mine that way. They only other international competition they rate are World Cup and CONNEBOL.
All others aren't in the same light.
so is that racism for you?
why didn't Zidane play for Africa or Henry or Evra and their likes. Those talents choosing AFCON over EUROS could have gone a long way in putting us in the spotlight.
|Sports / Re: Lewandowski Deserves The Ballon D'or More (Opinion) by emae009(m): 7:32pm On Dec 01|
see why I said running in circles.
I've been begging you to bring out these so called stats but you haven't. Not once but so quick to say robbery.
please drop the stats let me also see it and change my stand
|Sports / Re: Evra claims Edouard Mendy Was Snubbed For The Yashin Trophy Because he's African by emae009(m): 7:15pm On Dec 01|
please who won the Ballon d'Or in 2016. The same year Portugal won the Euros??
Simple facts una no sabi but will public write ignorance.
FYI Dortmund won the DFB Pokal not Bayern.
You're quick to downplay the Copa America as not that important but the Bundesliga that Bayern has the best team and snaps up their rival players each season is not played down by you.
that you can't even smell your Hypocrisy is alarming
|Sports / Re: Evra claims Edouard Mendy Was Snubbed For The Yashin Trophy Because he's African by emae009(m): 7:12pm On Dec 01|
and they kept Essence on the Billboard for how many weeks. Breaking and setting records.
|Sports / Re: Evra claims Edouard Mendy Was Snubbed For The Yashin Trophy Because he's African by emae009(m): 7:11pm On Dec 01|
racism has been sung. every other criteria is thrown out of the window now.
|Sports / Re: Evra claims Edouard Mendy Was Snubbed For The Yashin Trophy Because he's African by emae009(m): 6:58pm On Dec 01|
no because Ballon d'Or don't consider the AFCON in the same breathe as EUROS and COPA AMERICA, but before you scream racism, do they also consider ASIAN CUP and CONCACAF??
Yes there's a big racism in the world but being quick to use that an excuse isn't always the right path.
All the blacks that represented France and other European countries, imagine if they had ignored that and choose Africa.
The Ballon d'Or was initially for Europeans, when they blew it open, the only other Continent with mad reps in World Cup was South American hence why it's equated to Euros.
|Sports / Re: Lewandowski Deserves The Ballon D'or More (Opinion) by emae009(m): 6:47pm On Dec 01|
You running me round in circles. So to understand each other in circles. abeg state your points clearly.
you can use numbering so I know how to state mine.
|Sports / Re: Lewandowski Deserves The Ballon D'or More (Opinion) by emae009(m): 6:25pm On Dec 01|
you said club winnings doesn't matter, goals scored do. Did you know that 2018 Modric won, Messi was the highest goal Scorer but was placed 5th on the ranking.
so using your own point Messi was actually cheated for the award.
abi do you want to rewrite your statement as you have a strong will of doing that.
PS: You still have provided the stats that make Lewandowski the deserved winner.
since you what to run on propaganda let's go there
|Sports / Re: Ronaldo Has Received 200 Votes MORE Than Messi Across Ballon D'or History by emae009(m): 6:00pm On Dec 01|
very soon e go be Ronaldo has donated more blood than Messi.
A lion does not concern itself with the opinion of sheeps
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|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 3:48pm On Dec 01|
what's is sentiment?
if there are 5 people and I said chose those that are 6ft tall only. it doesn't matter who you like or whatever, you final choice will always be people that are 6ft tall or above.
so where is the sentiment * 170, when they are given criteria and guidelines for their choice
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|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 3:38pm On Dec 01|
they voted independently, then the tally is done in everybody's presence so you can be sure your vote wasn't overlooked.
The way people are rushing to cling on popular opinion and take it has facts will one day do a lot of harm and that day of reckoning is very close
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|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 3:36pm On Dec 01|
Bro a lot of these folks don't know nada. they'll just go online find popular opinion and call it facts.
The way they are quick to say 2010 like say Sneijder was a monster that year when the real protagonist for inter was Milito.
Sneijder just the like Jorginho for this year. Simply existing in a team that won a tournament.
I wonder why them no dey shout Jorginho was cheated tho
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|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 3:17pm On Dec 01|
jeez, is it that half of the world don't know what Ballon d'Or is??
it's only Journalists that votes. It's not FIFA the best.
and no the point difference is about 33+. It's 2019 that was 7.
If 170 people voted randomly, then it's stands to reason there's a criteria and sentiment wasn't one of them
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|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 2:08pm On Dec 01|
I was looking for Sneijder stats from 2010.
it's not a fact per say but in an international competition year, those tournaments takes priority. Each year when Messi was overlooked the rationale behind it was he didn't perform with Argentina and was popularly accepted.
So Ronaldo didn't perform with Portugal.
Modric "captained" Croatia to the World Cup final (that's sentimental in football, David fighting against Goliath sort of). His stats wasn't great either.
They both won the UCL.
If you look at 2018, the line up was greatly influenced by the world Cup and people were happy to accept it.
so I don't see why when we had Copa America and Euros, the importance given to those tournaments should change because Messi won finally
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|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 2:00pm On Dec 01|
To some extent yeah. Because of how good they are individually which is one point I was trying to make. If Ballon d'Or is still solely on individual performance as it was in the early days, each year will feature both of them so to give others a fair chance emphasis of what to look for the most is flexible each year.
if we want to dissect both year. The opinion that the rightful people were overlooked for the awards will just be pure sentiment.
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|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 1:55pm On Dec 01|
Your last statement might be truth probably.
But a lot of people keep confusing 2020 with 2021.
Chelsea won UCL in 2021
Dortmund won the DFB Pokal Cup in 2021
what Bayern won was the Bundesliga league title and the German Super Cup for this year.
So Lewandowski didn't clear out the domestic titles.
The way I see it, in an international competition year, the international tournament carries more weight than the UCL which carries more wight than League titles which carries more weight than domestic cups.
Lewandowski won league title and domestic cup while scoring more goals which is the only individual statistics he's better than Messi.
Messi won a domestic cup with an international tournament while beating others in every individual stats bar goals.
so yes it was a close call but Messi was just better in the end.
There was an argument about this on ESPN, four pundits where going on about how Lewandowski deserved it until an international journalist joined them and he said something in the line of, each journalist chosen to vote have to present their Top 5 with each position getting a piont value. Then he revealed that an English Journalist chosen to represent English chose Jorginho as his #1. The reason he revealed that was to point out that not everyone just went with Messi or Lewandowski as their top pick.
Afterwards these journalists are gathered together in Paris and the points of each player is tallied. The highest tally wins.
so if we drop sentiment and sympathy of Lewandowski not winning last year which was canceled due to Covid, Messi fully deserved to win
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|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 1:43pm On Dec 01|
Cannavaro in 2006 with Ronaldinho not making the top 10.
|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 12:56pm On Dec 01|
please back your statements with facts abeg.
so assists should be considered too when judging for the winner right.
Please let's continue because I can bet you anything that when we get to the bottom of this gist, the only outcome will be that Messi deserved his 7th Ballon d'Or
|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 12:53pm On Dec 01|
Ballon d'Or since it's inception was always for individual performance above the collective.
If they had still follow that priority in the 21st century, Messi would have won more than 7. By now, people won't even be attending the show.
The whole crinkum crankum scenario we're seeing now is that they try to tweak the system of criterias they now use so that others have a fair chance of winning.
In 2021 which is under review, without sentiment, Messi deserved to be crowned the winner.
Lewandowski was the sure bet in 2020 and there's no argument from anybody. But it was canceled. Messi didn't caused it. It wasn't something that was pre-planned.
Saying Lewandowski should be given this year for last year unfortunate scenario is just a sympathy scenario.
You don't stop giving the kid that top his class the first position simply because he has topped the class one too many times..
If Lewandowski doesn't win it next year or isn't given last year as France Football are contemplating, then he will just be one of the unfortunate ones not to win. There are a lot of all time greats in that category.
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|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 12:43pm On Dec 01|
you cry about Sneijder when all he did was be in the team that won. Milito that was scoring goals don't get the recognition.
2018. Like you said the gave to Modric exactly like the 2010 scenario and you guys complained Ronaldo was cheated.
what do you people really want
|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 12:34pm On Dec 01|
Going back to the history of Ballon d'Or, they always prioritize individual performancea over collective. In the past if you check, you'd see people that won a lot with their clubs but were snubbed for the award because individually the winner was better.
In the 21st century, if that patterned was followed, Messi would have been winning it almost every time so after partnering with FIFA to award the FIFA Ballon d'Or, their priority changes as FIFA awards gives more weight to international competitions.
If we leave sentiment asides and judge squarely based on facts, France Football are actually tweaking the system to afford other players a chance to win the award.
Just take a look at the 3 criterias they use to judge. There's no one season that Messi wouldn't have a legitimate claim to the award base on those criterias
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|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 12:28pm On Dec 01|
did Ballon d'Or give any award last year or only FIFA The Best was.
if something so simple you don't know but you will write one long epistle base solely on misinformation and ignorance and call it facts
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|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 12:25pm On Dec 01|
those ones dey read?
if you ask them now, someone that have seen that post will still tell you Bent said he doesn't deserve it. Do you know better than a footballer?
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|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 12:16pm On Dec 01|
I will asked you this question that I asked someone else.
Can you confidently name one phase of a game since January in the UCL or Euros that you can say if Jorginho wasn't there, Chelsea would have lost the UCL or Italy wouldn't have won the Euros?
That's impact right for a midfielder
|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 12:07pm On Dec 01|
I wish say Messi go post this him post after the Golden Ball for 2014 world Cup now. E for so make sense
|Sports / Re: Did Messi Really Deserve The Ballon D'or? by emae009(m): 12:04pm On Dec 01|
Guy you be real otondo. Collective performances imply what?? is it not team trophies. they even put (winners) in bracket but of course your brain can comprehend.
out of the 3 criterias listed there which one exactly can you put your life on that Lewandowski is above Messi?
is it overall career
or talent and fair play
or individual performance.
run along to your fellow trolls and stop disrespecting the G.O.A.T.
Person wey know football, simple questions you can answer. you think say na to play Chelsea win be football. Bring facts come no dey behave like television wey no clear.
|Sports / Re: 2021 Ballon D’or: It Was Lewandowski’s Award – Darren Bent by emae009(m): 11:58am On Dec 01|
as it for once crossed you guys mind that may be this is as you say it "Nature's way" for the disrespect Messi suffered in 2018 or na only Messi case Nature get for file??
|Sports / Re: Did Messi Really Deserve The Ballon D'or? by emae009(m): 11:45am On Dec 01|
what are the criteria. you don't know. but you're typing ignorance with confidence.
You watch football but you don't know it's only the Ligue 1 that didn't resume their league.
And calling propaganda on the Internet a fact just tell me a lot about you.
You fall into the category of people that don't reason for themselves but join the bandwagon.
Please what source confirmed that Lewandowski was to be given?? abi na "trust me bro" as usual.
I'll help you... below is criteria for awarding the Ballon d'Or.
PS: You still haven't answered any of my questions but you keep saying "you don't watch football"
Betting no be football
|Sports / Re: Did Messi Really Deserve The Ballon D'or? by emae009(m): 10:51am On Dec 01|
I see you have chosen the high road. so let's go.
He won the Copa Del Rey with Barca and the Copa America with Argentina, first time in 28 years while being POTY, Joint Highest Goal Scorer and Having the Highest Assist.
Now it's your turn. Answer my 3 questions that I've asked you so far
|Foreign Affairs / Re: 15-Year-Old Student Opened Fire In U.S. School, Killing 3 And Injuring 8 (Pics) by emae009(m): 10:48am On Dec 01|
That's how Justice works not the Law though.
The Law isn't justice. there are two different thing.
Taking a life and serving 10 - 15 years can't be balanced on a scale.
The point I'm trying to portray was a more drastic measures should be put in place. It won't be a surprise if on questioning he will say he was feeling suicidal or just wanted to get back at his school for bullying. A competent lawyer can get him a reduced sentence for that and in no time he will be out.
If say a shoot on sight is the order of the day, when you're being bullied or feeling suicidal, you'll think twice before taking a firearm to the public because that is an automatic dead for you
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