₦airaland Forum

SeverusSnape:
What do you have to say now?... Obviously, The OP was right.

Falana will not be a Minister.

The OPS prediction is in lock step with the prediction i made just after buhari was declared winner.
Anyone who deludes him/her self to thinking that the north has not created a contingency plan which will be executed regardless of the constitution in the event that Buhari :

A/Is incapacitated to the point of being unable to function due to stroke resulting from him exerting him self beyoud what is normal for a 72(75?) year old man

B/ Passes away suddenly and unexpectedly due to said stoke or an aneurysm

Right now the northern elite are most watchful and distrustful of obassanjo who right now is hanging around buhari like fly hangs around shit.The scene is very most familiar because at the beginning of yaraduas administration obassonjo was hanging around the same way.
The elite are even more distrustful of tinubu.While obassanjo is an expert in deception and guile, (that doesn't take him very far) tinubus game is all too clear and they all know what the frog eyed thief's end game is.

I told folks this back in may and i also said that when the cabinet is constituted, regardless of who from the south (even the southwest) gets what cabinet seat, the kitchen cabinet that sits the night/evening prior to the main cabinet meeting would have made all the decisions.
That kitchen cabinet is absolutely going to be composed by people from the far north and they will control all strategic positions , defense, internal affairs, finance name it.
Where they are not positioned at the top like finance and foreign affairs they will have their people all over.
If a dejavu yaradua drama happens again things will go very much differently this time.
Let those who want to deny keep burying their head in the sand.

Yujin:
I know of course. Why such a question? I'm very good in geography and I'm science inclined. Do you care to educate me on how the satellite was able to get a clear cut map of Africa in pitch darkness? If it was infrared I will know.

Good in Geography and science inclined and you ask this question?
I have no words.....

ezeagu:
"This new global view and animation of Earth's city lights is a composite assembled from data acquired by the Suomi NPP satellite. The data was acquired over nine days in April 2012 and 13 days in October 2012. It took 312 orbits to get a clear shot of every parcel of Earth's land surface and islands. This new data was then mapped over existing Blue Marble imagery of Earth to provide a realistic view of the planet."

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/NPP/news/earth-at-night.html#.ViFMCBCrQ0o

You try i ,sometimes like this occasion, lose patience when i have to explain /convince someone about facts that are well obvious and indisputable.
Its more galling when those facts are disputed on the basis of nothing more than (i don know empty pride? and) hot air.

Foxflames:
this is a waste of funds from Cross River. This is not priority at the moment. why can't government focus on more important things at the moment. this road will be used by how many people? investment in education, health and agriculture should be the most important thing

You clearly have no idea of what the nexus between a seaport,(which the state government is investing in),a large capacity transportation infrastructure( which is this highway and hopefully,eventually rail connection to the interior) embedded power generation, airports( which the state government has clearly invested on ) and a thriving hospitality industry can do for any state , country planning towards industrial growth.
Try to educate yourself on the concept.

The state government along with Akwa ibom is doing ALL the right things.
Combined together with the market and industrial output of the south east , south south, a synchronized pattern of investments and inter-related policies in transportation infrastructures, and hubs , power generation,education,level 2-3 agricultural productivity monetary policies,tax administration,social infrastructure and zoning(town planning) for the next fifteen years will cause massive and irreversible changes to the both regions.

sonOfLucifer:
You are boring. Who brings intellgient conversation to a nairaland thread on space? Go away, evil scientist..

I know that is a complement (i hope) but the message it carries about the mental development (or the drive for it) of most nairalanders vis-a-vis, the topics and discussions that interest them is sad.

This guy below captures it in a post on a different thread .

egift:
PS: The site you suggested that the Ezeagu add did not load .I wanted to see the basis for your claim that Nigeria was doing worse comparatively than the picture suggested.

.......... it amazes me how contents like this gets little FP attention and members barely even read it. But I know if it was Tonto frying Tomatoes, people will be falling over each other to come and read it. It is very sad.

egift:
Gbam.

But it amazes me how contents like this gets little FP attention and members barely even read it. But I know if it was Tonto frying Tomatoes, people will be falling over each other to come and read it. It is very sad.

I despise your political views but i could not fault a word of your post if my life depended on it.
It is really sad Nairaland no longer facilitates learning and the interaction required for idea generation.
A valuable, powerful weapon of mass enlightenment is being misused.

donholy28:
who read this encyclopedia?

Just reading your quip tells me there is very little hope for the youth.
Any sensible youth with half a prayer of success would have read that "encyclopedia" abot four times before bothering to comment.

Rossikk:
A major reason for the disparity with Europe is that the top half of Africa comprises almost entirely the SAHARA DESERT which, in case you dunderheads don't realise, is LARGELY UNINHABITED, while the lower central mass of the continent comprises the largely uninhabited, impenetrable central African forests of the CONGO regions and co.

GO LEARN SOME GEOGRAPHY, DOLTS!!

I absolutely agree with those assertions but that would not even begin to account for the disparity in the levels of observed ground based nighttime illumination between the inhabited areas in Africa and the Inhabited areas in the other regions covered.
Note that i did not restrict the comparison to just Africa and Europe, large parts of Asia (all the way to India) are shown.
If you looked at that picture critically you would see that there is a slightly noticeable difference in the concentration of nighttime illumination between areas that used(?) to be part of Eastern Europe and Western Europe, i do recall coming across a similar picture taken from space at night during the dying days of the cold war showing how night time illumination practically and much more tellingly, CORRECTLY depicted the partition between territories in the East and those in the West .
The difference is a bit more subtle now and has followed the (recent) expansion of Western Europe.
A similar picture was done sometime in mid 2000s showing the same partition between North Korea and South Korea.

oganology33:
U guyz are so funny. do u really believe dat these lines called boundaries really exist on the land mark? Secondly, wat kinda light shines up 2 space Street lights or Household bulbs or security lights Crazy people Deceiving us since 639BC

Those pictures are enhanced(to a minor extent) images obtained from spectral emissions infrared and others of mostly lighting systems .
If you stand far behind or at some adjacent angle to someone pointing a unidirectional light source(torchlight) , you would see the illumination produce by that source even if it was directed well away from you.
Lets not talk about unguided light sources( fires, open streetlights etc).
If your punny eyes can do that how much do you think engineered optical systems designed to read the characters on a black board (facing up in the open) can do?

engrhorla:
You are very correct..

To buttress your point, Accra and London both are on the same longitude..Madrid is one hour ahead of Abuja, etc

The greatest time difference you can have between an African country, say in West Africa and an European country, say in East Europe is 6hours. And night time lasts more than that.

Therefore, it is very possible to get a picture of Europe and Africa at night at a given time.

By the way, Europe appear like a lion pouncing on a prey..check the pix again!

The very point i tried to communicate in my post but i,m not sure i got to convey it as well as this.
Communication(documented communication to be clear) not very much my thing although i do try.

mightyhaze:
well ok,but 2 hrs is still a long time lag. Check d difference in illumination bw say 5am and 7am

The difference is not all that much.
Imagine that the picture was taken at 01:00 GMT during the summer period,in other words around this time of the year there would be an equal spread of night and day regardless of Longitude.
Assume also that the cloud cover is rather uniform at the instant the picture was taken (this might seem most unlikely but the science of meteorology indicates that the processes that forms cloud covers are most dynamic and as such a cloud cover might be available in a region and not there after while).
Because Africa is largely behind Europe on the time zone, it would be 05:00am in India which would still be quite dark .Given that by 05:00am in the east , sunrise would only be a little less than an hour away, the difference in illumination levels would not be enough to significantly skew the detail that the picture presents.

TonyeBarcanista:
Racism...

I be your guy any day but this simple minded answer (which in any case by any stretch of logic is wrong) disappoints me.

You have been one individual on Nairaland with a reputation for being rational and logical, addressing the facts of any matter under discuss most objectively.
How then do you claim that racism is responsible for what is a clear picture showing that Africa has yet to solve the most fundamental challenge which is required for development? The generation,transmission and productive use of electrical energy.

I might have entertained the argument (had you made it) that the picture was a digitally doctored piece( even though i don't think so ) and in no way reflects the true levels of night time illumination, ipso-facto energy generation /use on the African continent.

aresa:
What are the charges and which court the cases dey? Shey na the court under your bed abi real court of competent jurisdiction in Nigeria?

These losers and their endless self induced idiocy...

I have no problem whatsoever with this response but please apply that same standard to Deziani and co otherwise you are the biggest hypocrite on GODS green earth.

henrylinks20:
hmm. i still cant imagine how an all-glass structure can exist suspended in the air....

You might want to take a look at this :the glass don break.
Use of most Chinese made stuff still is a calculated risk

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/07/travel/china-yuntaishan-glass-walkway-cracks/index.html

In swift response, Omatseye’s attack went; “I have always tried to restrain from writing on Orji Kalu, a former Abia State governor. But who can ignore his laughable new ambition.

“He wants to be FIFA boss. I laugh even as I pen these words. What struck me first was a conversation he had with editors when somebody asked him about his educational qualifications.
[size=18pt]“We are talking about forwarding Abia Nigeria to all forwardness, he said with a flourish, ‘and you are talking about certificate (sic).’ Is this the sort of literacy you want for Nigeria? Nada. In local parlance, we should say he has committed foul, or ‘fa-fa-fa foul!!”[/size].


Omaseye should never question Orji Uzor Kalus logic as stated in the bolded because he did (derided and scorned ) everyone who challenged Buhari's literacy using a variation of the same logic OUK is putting forward.

GentleYoung:
Good,politics without bitterness.

LIE: that statement was GRUDGINGLY made with the forthcoming Bayelsa Elections in mind.

MizMyColi:
Gbam!
Seconded!

I am afraid when the truth does come out ,it wont matter i fear each generation of mugu Nigerians go on to procreate and raise an even more foolish generation.
They wouldn't know what to do with the truth or care for that matter.
The situation in the middle-belt is indicative , they bought a lie and the truth is showing even if the media was successful in hiding the facts of the program of despoliation,devastation,rape and murder (although they are trying so hard) against indigenous middle-beltans, the youths seem content to just carry on like nothing is happening instead of interrogating the elders who have decided to be politically impotent and make stupid decisions and calculations .

Jakumo:
I am yet to recover from the enthronement of the Ayatollah as Nigeria's president, which still occurred despite my feverish deployment of industrial strength Vodoo curses, Juju hexes, and other assorted powerful hocus-pocus that was commissioned at great monetary cost, all to make sure that Johnny B Goode remained as Nigeria's elected president, while ensuring that the Ayatollah never smelt power for the rest of all time. The rest, as they say, is history.

Be that as it may, the Ayatollah can redeem his image, even in the eyes of we his staunchest opponents, by seeing to it that Mrs. Frog Eye Madueke, who featured so prominently amongh that group of ugly, bug-eyed floozies that did such irreparable damage to the Jonathan regime, is given a fiar trial and then promptly marched to the stakes so that the firing squad can duly send direct her to Hades in a blaze of glory.

[size=16pt] Firing Squad for Frog Eye Madueke. [/size]

Not to be a defender of Mrs D M , have you ever stopped to consider that even while she may have flouted the laws and the rules , perhaps a bit, perhaps a lot ,do you not think it probable that her "crimes" have been hyper-scaled by the very potent media weapon of the current ruling party?
She could be no more guilty of corruption than the midget "el-rufian" who is today governor of kaduna state and more than just that, the unofficial vice president of Nigeria and the ayatollahs right hand man and if the rumor flying around are true, he will soon be the ayatollahs son inlaw.

I just read the update and everything indicated there proves that Former President Jonathan was right when he said :Stealing is not corruption.
These people might not have taken money from Nigeria's coffers but their corruption is sky high and entrenched.

Everything is fine,no cause for alarm.Only during the last administration with PDP in charge at the state and Federal Governments were they skirmishes and lives lost as a result of the incompetent and uncaring administration.
Plateau is all right now and all peaceful.

Bevista:
Chances are that he mentioned Ibori because he has been convicted. He has also made reference to Dieziani, because she has been arrested and interrogated by the UK. He also mentioned Charles Taylor because he was convicted for war crimes by ICJ.

I admire that he is outspoken about the issues of corruption in Africa, but he should go the long haul and mention others who have not yet been convicted so that authorities can swing to action.

The truth and nothing but the truth.

Chubhie:
I just wonder why the cold reception of this piece on this political board? This political board should be on fire discussing this.

Don Omenka where art thou?

Apostle hahn

Elder Gbawe

Omenka ,Gbawe? When it is obvious that the writer of this article has provided enough information which implicitly connects their current hero the frog eyed ex governor of Lagos and obj to massive instances of corruption.He makes a point of not saying it but you know that MTN must have funneled large sums of money to these diseased individuals who claim to be cleaner than God.
If Gbawe comes to this thread expect a long rant filled with hot air and noise.

predatorX:
I feel this engineer in the house, setting the records straight, no ambiguities.

and taking into consideration redundancies. Not all generators at Egbin are being run at any given time. Atleast two are kept redundant so as to make do for peak and off-peak fluctuations, as well as generator servicing downtimes.

Also, there's what is called installed capacity, running capacity and generated capacity. What we all hear about Egbin is the installed capacity which is 1320MWatts, that is 6 x 220Mwatts.

Redundancies account for Running capacity while Losses account for actual generated capacities. So in the real sense, Egbin does not generate 1320MegaWatts but if we maxxed to the limit, we can get 1320MW.

so op, nobody can throw OPC egg inside Egbin and cause blackout in naija, this is not the 80's

I was a bit concerned that they were running all the units at the same time i thought the units were rated at 200 but clearly what they chose to do was to circle one unit off while the remaining five are running .

"That OPC egg line got me laughing hard".

Jakumo:
My voyage to Outer Mongolia in search of a third wife was unsuccessful, leaving me with no option but to return to my lair, located deep in the Animal Kingdom of Western Nigeria, where I have once again settled into my career of typing messages on Nairaland.

Diariz God o !

We could have used your help earlier in the year alas the ayatollah has been enthroned as the president it was a painful experience.

Jakumo:
A slight modification of Nigerian criminal law is in order at this juncture, to introduce the ULTIMATE penalty for all convicted embezzlers whose theft of state funds exceeds say ten million US dollars, whereby sub-humans like the frog-eyed former minister, Mrs. Klepto Madueke can be unceremoniously tied to a stake at the beach or any other suitable public arena, and then riddled with automatic rifle fire by a squad of marksmen, until such time as the body of the criminal is virtually liquefied, and unrecognizeable as a human cadaver.

By prescribing the firing squad for Mrs Frog Eye, notice will be served to ALL future political appointees in Nigeria, that posession of female reproductive organs will NO LONGER entitle convicted thieves to special treatment of any sort.

[size=16pt] Firing Squad for Mrs. Frog Eye Madueke[/size]

I certainly do not agree with you but were on Gods green earth have you been .Long time no hear.

seunmsg:
If you read strive Masiyiwa's post very well, you will notice he never mentioned Tinubu's name. If he can mention James Ibori's name clearly, I really don't see why he can't mention Tinubu's name clearly as well.

In my opinion, if Tinubu also demanded for bribe like Ibori did, he must have done it through a third party and not directly in a way that it could be traced to him. I came to this conclusion simply because Tinubu has travelled severally to the US and UK without harassment. If Ibori was arrested and prosecuted on the strength of the petition sent to the US and UK by strive, I don't see any reason why they will let Tinubu off the hook if he is also guilty. Curiously again, Strive has refused to mention him directly in the bribery scandal. Tinubu was probably smart enough to cover his tracks.

That question shows you are a learner. The answer is simple thifnubu is well connected if not a prominent structure of Nigeria's political power structure.He (Strive) has given all the information that is required there was only one man who was the governor of Lagos at the time if you still do not see the answer then i give up.

jmaine:
You believed a single unidentified object tossed into a single compartment of turbines working independently of each other can lead to a total breakdown of a plant with a 1,100MW capacity. Yet you mocked news which revealed sabotage from gas pipeline vandals as a reason for a drop in our power generation capacity

They will choke on their hypocrisy soon enough........

coolbis:
mr Buhari inherited practically nothing, our 4000mw was just on paper. That was the same 4000mw he(mr Jonathan) claimed after his 100days in office in 2011,yet no improvement in the power supply. For close to two years, I did not enjoy a minute of power supply in my house between 6pm and 6am. Jonathan was the biggest mistake nigerians ever made, he was a fraud personified.

There is roughly 10,000 Mega Watts of electricity generating capacity of which 5000Mega watts have be made available and usable PER THE PROJECT PLAN AND SCHEDULE IN EFFECT SINCE 2012.The next 5000Mega Watts is currently being added and it takes time alli the work of Brother Jona .Now go hang your self.

EMANY01:
There are currently 23 grid connected generating plants in operation in the Nigerian Electricity Supply Industry with a total installed capacity of 10,396.0MW and available capacity of 6,056MW........
Source : KPMG- Guide to the Nigerian Power Sector
http://www.kpmg.com/Africa/en/IssuesAndInsights/Articles-Publications/Documents/Guide%20to%20the%20Nigerian%20Power%20Sector.pdf


The Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer, Ikeja Electric, Mr. Abiodun Ajifowobaje, in this interview with ‘FEMI ASU, says a chunk of the nation’s installed generation capacity of not less than 10,000 megawatts remains stranded largely due to gas shortfall.Source:
http://www.punchng.com/business/energy/nigerias-power-generation-capacity-almost-10000mw-ajifowobaje/


Now 15 months after the power sector was privatised, has it been ‘so far, so good’?
Before I say anything on privatisation, I think we have to say something about what led to the privatisation in the first instance. As we are aware, 10 years before that privatisation, there had been little or no government funding in the power sector. Therefore there had been serious challenges in transmission, generation and distribution networks. For us to at least give minimum power supply to the Nigerian populace, conservatively we need nothing less than 10,000MW. At the time the privatisation was done, the highest we had reached was about 4,500MW, and that was briefly, not on a continuous basis……..……..As things developed, it became very apparent that government could not, with other competing areas like health and education, give adequate funding to the power sector, but to allow investors to come in and bring in technology, ready management and of course funding that were not coming from the government. So, about 15 months ago, November 1, 2013, the companies were handed over to the private sector after following a very rigorous bidding process, which was termed as one of the most transparent in privatisation history in Africa, and since that time, all the investors have been doing everything within their power to see that at least they do more to see that power gets to the people.

What are the challenges facing the private investors who bought the privatised firms?
The first challenge that the investors faced was that it was when we took over that we started analysing the problems in the sector. You will recall that during the privatisation scheme, there were a lot of union activities and they refused any investors from coming in to do physical inspection of the networks. For you to be able to plan, you have to know what is on the ground.…………..At Ikeja Electric, we had to start doing technical audit, customer enumeration for us to actually know what is on the ground, and this took time. …..
……But what I want to say is that the power sector is not like any other sector. It takes a lot of time for anything you put on the ground to materialise. I know that Nigerians want to see things improve almost overnight. That is not the case with the power sector – after doing all the due diligence on the networks, we have to look for funds to do all the necessary corrections, we have to look for the money to do all the metering…………..

The country achieved the peak generation of 4,517.6MW of electricity on December 23, 2012. But more than two years after then, we are still struggling to reach 4,000MW. For how long must things get worse before getting better?

The capacities that were there at the time we attained the highest peak are still there. Not only that, the NIPP project has added between 3,000 and 5,000MW. So, when we are talking about installed capacity today in Nigeria, it cannot be less than 10,000MW. In fact, Transcorp in Sapele and Egbin in Lagos have added additional capacity since they took over. For Egbin, Unit 6 was already moribund but has added 200MW to that. [size=18pt][b]So, as I am talking to you now, we have almost 10,000MW on standby. But why are we not getting it? Simply gas issues. Number one, we are not getting enough gas to power the power stations. Not only that, even the little gas that we get, every day, we see pipeline vandalism……..……. .Early last month, we were giving our customers almost 12 to 15-hour power supply, but in the last one or two weeks, it has reduced to eight hours because they said the gas pipelines had been vandalized. Not only that, this is the time we have low water for the hydro power stations. So with the gas not getting to the thermal power plants, and the water at the dams at the lowest level, this is the worst period for power to come from the grid. ………[/b][/size]

What investments or projects should customers expect from your firm, apart from the embedded generation and smart metering?

As I said earlier, If I want to give my customers constant power, I need 1,250MW. But the question is can the network carry that? From what we have on the ground now, I will say ‘no’. But before the takeover, I think the highest we have ever attained here was about 650MW. But today, all the little problems that used to disturb operations have been addressed; so that if power comes now, I can assure you that we can take 1,000MW. Based on the study that we are carrying out on our lines immediately we finished that, we will come out with a programme on how to expand the system......

mightycrown1:
PLEASE point out the sense one can acquire in this your write up?

There is sence ALL OVER AND ALL AROUND the write up but because you have not a smidgen of sense you missed it by a mile.

Whynotthetruth:
It doesn't look sensible to me that with all the security there and the magnitude of a power plant that a mere object could be dropped to stop the plant ...And to even think the anonymous ex employee succeeded without any confrontation

Do not try or waste energy trying to convince that one and her ilk it is said you can fool alot of people easy but convincing them that they have been fooled is a waste of time.

IzonOwei:
i believe when nebo told nigerians reasons for shortage of power supply due to pipeline vandalism many of your kind called him inept...but right now we have to swallow what ever reason is causing the shortage of mega watts because buhari is in charge...abi....i give up on nigeria...

I gave up on March 29th.
There are none blind as those who will not see, deaf as those who will not hear and f00lish as those who will not reason.

atlwireles:
So a former employee of PHCN gained access into the plant and threw an object shutting the plant down. Keep lying to yourselves

As in ehh, this whole APC and messiah and body odor languge thing is dumbing people down and they are all i denial .
It is easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled....(forgot the name of the man/woman that said that).

Besides did we just hear apc folks putting the blame on sabotage?
[size=18pt]How dare they use an excuse that is the sole prerogative of the Goodluck administration.
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Do you Atlwireless not remember them repeatedly deride Jonathan and his government when they reported on the activities of saboteurs ?
I am waiting to see and hear of the arrest of the saboteur.

francizy:
Una no dey shame? Chai!

Isn't it pathetic that with just one man throwing an object into the power plant made it trip off and subsequently, that one object cause a massive 1,100 MW drop in power supply? When you sell you soul for peanuts, you no longer make sense. Abi na juju e throw put inside ni? All hail APC!

I saw queues at different filling stations yesterday, hope someone didn't throw stones again..

Cc, Kaboninc, Whynotthetruth, TonyeBarcanister, DearPreye, Truckpusher, Anonimi, Firefire, a beg make una come help me judge stupidity oh!!

I just dey look the idiots all of them.
Egbin LIKE ANY OTHER POWER STATION, has multiple generating units and each of them has the ability to evacuate power generated individually.
In the case of Egbin there are six(6) such generating units each of them with 200 Mega Watt electricity production capaciity,one of which was damaged in an explosive accident in 2006 and only brought back to service and commissioned by President Goodluck Jonathan in February or march this year bringing Egbin to its full capacity (of 1200Mega Watts) for the first time in NINE(9) YEARS.
Now you have to know that in power systems we rarely ( if ever ) run all generating plants at maximum capacity so we derate
(Derating is a technique usually employed in electrical power and electronic devices, wherein the devices are operated at less than their rated maximum power)
Which explains the stated generating capacity of 1100Mega Watts.
What's my point?
In 2009 one generating unit experienced a partial prompt catastrophic rapid disassembly yet the plant (the remaining 5 units) was/were still generating electricity albeit at diminished capacity.
There isn't one single unit some fool can throw a spanner or whatever into and shut the whole plant down.
The people peddling that story and especially the journalist and editor who published it have no business around any industrial environment to say the least of a power station so either they lied or they are just as ignorant and idiotic as those on this thread who bought into this bullsh1t story.

Mind that i do not dispute the claim of sabotage , i am just saying that the narrative currently going around is wackd.

But what do i know, ignorant idiotic people elected an even more ignorant fella as president so.......

phemmyutd:
What was her achievement since she have been in that Post

You know things especially the once that really matter and are necessary really take time to achieve ,that you do not see the result does not mean nothing is happening but you will soon find out that in spite of propaganda and magic shows this government will learn that hard lesson.