Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 9:26pm On Aug 16, 2025 |
emmanuelewumi: Excluding finance cost.
Meaning NOPAT includes finance costs No bro. Check the break down of how to get PAT from NOPAT and notice finance cost was deducted.
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 9:17pm On Aug 16, 2025 |
emmanuelewumi: Minimum required return from the investment capital .
NOPAT already has the finance cost in it. That is the major difference between NOPAT and PAT
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 8:54pm On Aug 16, 2025 |
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 8:53pm On Aug 16, 2025 |
emmanuelewumi: I don't understand you
We are considering the total invested capital in generating the return.
20% is the excess return above the discount rate.
Net operating profit after tax: includes the profit after tax and the finance cost
The invested capital is the equity and debt . Your 20% discount is for what? yearly average devaluation or inflation? Nopat does not include finance cost. So a ROIC of 40% from your calculation, factoring the 20% discount still need to factor in finance cost from Nopat used in the ROIC calculation to get our real EVA if am right
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 8:43pm On Aug 16, 2025 |
megawealth01: MENTORS WILL SHOW YOU SHORTCUTS THAT YEARS OF HUSTLING WON’T. I agree |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 8:39pm On Aug 16, 2025 |
NettyNelly: Pa Emma, I'm Just curious if you would rather take the loan term you explained above, where you pay a lump sum at maturity. Compared to an interest free loan that is ammortized monthly over a year. If you factor in the TVM and opportunity cost involved in a bull run we currently have. How do someone have access to an interest-free loan? |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 8:38pm On Aug 16, 2025 |
emmanuelewumi: 10% is not a good one in Nigeria.
The discount rate for Naira denominated asset is 20%
The difference between the ROIC and the discount rate of 20% multiplied by the Invested Capital will give you the Economic Value Advantage
Assuming a stock has equity of N30 billion and debt of N20 billion. The invested capital is N50 billion
If the Net Operating profit after tax is N20 billion...
The ROIC is 40%.
The economic value added or economic profit will be (40%-20%) multiplied by N50 billion
Which will give an economic profit of N10 billion.
If the ROIC is 10% for a Naira denominated asset, it will make a negative economic profit even though it made accounting profit. Thereby destroying value
Long term wealth creation ability of a stock is in the creation of Economic Value Advantage or economic profit If i get your calculation well, the 20% you deducted (from the 40% - 20%) is the discount for inflation/devaluation? In that case, it means the company will pay the bank 4b out of the 10b EVA made on an average bank interest rate of 20% from the 20b loan used, while the shareholders, workers (salary) and others share 6b. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 4:13pm On Aug 16, 2025 |
emmanuelewumi: They do through their sister company called Orange One Finance Limited
Loan is for a year and bullet payment of principal and interest at maturity. Just that their interest rate is high at 33%. Another problem is that they only give a maximum loan of N20 million
So if you get a loan of N10 million at 33% per annum for a year
You will pay a lump sum of N13.3 million at maturity.
Not bad sha if you use the loan for business. Not bad. Can i roll-over the loan at maturity like Ucee? For biz, i prefer to use the loan to be buying shares i sight at a good price while payback with my cashflow (salary). It allows me not losing out buying good stocks at good price. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 3:46pm On Aug 16, 2025 |
emmanuelewumi: FSDH Capital
United Capital
Meristem Securities
Investment One Stockbrokers.
I have accounts with all of them and I have gotten loans from all of them
FSDH Capital and United Capital are the best for me.
But I doubt if you can meet up because the right offer is time sensitive Is investment-One giving loans too? |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 1:52pm On Aug 15, 2025 |
emmanuelewumi: Since it is not yet profitable why dont you use Price/ Sale.
Compare the revenue to market capitalization. Average Price/Sale ratio in the sector is currently 3.5 Since it is not generating revenue for now, you can't use price to sales rather book value looks better |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 11:48am On Aug 14, 2025 |
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Romance › Re: You Can’t Call Urself A Real Man If U Can’t Forgive Ur Wife For Cheating. by emmaodet: 7:30am On Aug 13, 2025 |
Katell: I am proudly a weak man. I won't be gaslighted. "Do the crime, do the time".
If all sins are forgivable, Satan won't have casted into the lake of fire.
Yes, I am weak man and I don't want to upgrade.  |
Romance › Re: You Can’t Call Urself A Real Man If U Can’t Forgive Ur Wife For Cheating. by emmaodet: 7:24am On Aug 13, 2025 |
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Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Job Hunting Is Tough. by emmaodet: 4:53am On Aug 12, 2025 |
Thepenn: Honestly, it's not the rejection that hurts most times but the silence.
I wish they can have the decency to say an outright NO and save people from having hope in vain. Only if you know how many applications they get per day. You will get tired of replying all mails if you are in that seat |
Politics › Re: Cocoa Overtakes Crude-Oil As Nigeria's Major Export To Belgium In 2024 by emmaodet: 4:35pm On Aug 10, 2025 |
Gerrard59: This is not true. Ondo is. The major cocoa producing states in the country are in the southwest. Cross River is the top non-southwest producing state. Funny enough, most of the cocoa farms were already dying due to low patronage and market because most younger generation were not interested in it anymore. Infact, some farmers were uprooting cocoa trees to plant cashew, palm oil and rubber trees but I guess many will run back into the business now. My grandfather who died 5 years ago had 100's of cocoa farm and was even far richer than his children in cities doing civil servant jobs yet, no one deem it fit to go back to run the farms in Osun and ondo |
Politics › Re: Cocoa Overtakes Crude-Oil As Nigeria's Major Export To Belgium In 2024 by emmaodet: 4:31pm On Aug 10, 2025 |
Gerrard59: 600K ke? It was 1.1m per tonne. Take it or leave it. Traders had to go to far-flung states to buy cocoa because it was in enormous demand in the major producing states. Now in my hometown in Osun state, the cocoa farmers are daring yahoo boys to compete with them because yahoo boys don do them shege in the past sleeping with their wives. 1 ton sold for close to 10m, which means a 100kg bag sold for 1m |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 9:58am On Aug 10, 2025 |
Mankind2024: 100% paternal + Maternal. Waoooo Was born and breed there. One love bro |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 8:13am On Aug 10, 2025 |
Mankind2024: Investment Marathon: Reaching Highs in NGX, NYSE & Crypto. When I was growing up, common sayings in Shagamu, and among the Yorubas were 'The journey of a thousand miles begins with a step,' 'You can take a horse to the river but can't force it to drink,' and 'Think and grow rich.' These sayings don't fully align with today's reality. Now we know the journey of a thousand miles begins with the first taken step. We can also force a horse to drink water by feeding it with concentrated salt to cause thirst. Growing rich involves thinking, continuous learning, DOING, and growing rich. On Nairaland NSEMPA forum of today, many investors aren't proud of their wins in a faceless forum; rather, the JIJO (Jump In, Jump Out) traders are the ones celebrating their wins. This norm shouldn't continue. I'd rather share my investment successes and mistakes to celebrate personal milestones and encourage others that long-term investing is key to building generational wealth, after all, no one knows me. Sharing milestones by investors on a faceless forum outweighs perceived disadvantages.
On this note, I'm proud of my long-term investments: - NGX portfolio with N170M CAPITAL appreciation within 6 weeks in blue-chip companies in the ongoing rally. - NYSE $11k(N19.5M) gain in my foreign portfolio despite the selloff seen 2 weeks ago - N48M($32K) returns on CAPITAL in cryptos and digital assets YTD in the ongoing crypto rally.
These wins came through learning, discipline, perseverance, steadfastness, and prayers. I believe in taking care of my young and future self and family while aiming for generational wealth. Sharing investment milestones boosts perseverance in holding assets and helps achieve SMART goals. I'd say I've been favoured in my personal finance and investment journey. I hope to share hitting the US$1M goal one day. Once again, investment is a marathon while short-term trading is a sprint. Wishing you all a fruitful H2, 2025. Bro, are you from Sagamu or did you grow up there? |
Family › Re: My Baby Is Here by emmaodet: 6:20am On Aug 10, 2025 |
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Family › Re: Men, Learn To Cook – It's A Survival Skill, Not A Gender Role by emmaodet: 8:01pm On Aug 07, 2025 |
Tallesty1: Do you get? A nice article but he nearly ruined it with that part.
Nearly everything men did in 1985, they’re still doing today, but you don’t see anybody telling them to stop because it’s 2025. Look at marriages, even after divorce, the core things a man provides in marriage, he can still be mandated by court to keep providing for the woman and kids. But nothing binds the woman to do anything for him. It’s crazy.
In my family, everybody cooks. And being the one who stayed in the village longer, I cook local foods better than all of them. Recently, we were in the village for Easter, and I was the one cooking. My brothers were there, their wives too, and my sister, my mother, and others, I was cooking because I love cooking and I trust my own food. But all this talk about 2025 doesn’t move me. Yes, it’s 2025, I can order any food from my phone; heck, I can order both the food and the chef.
Nobody remembers it’s 2025 when we tell men to be the providers and do all the heavy lifting. Recently, because a woman died over ₦500k, the internet was full of “don’t settle for less” and “marry a man that can always cough out a million.” This is coming from a POS attendant that earns ₦15k monthly without any allowance.
Recently in a conversation with one, she said she can't marry a broke guy because she doesn't want to suffer; and I asked why she would suffer because of his brokenness when he isn’t asking for her own money?
Women have all the opportunities that men have, they have the education men had, they can get all the skills men have access to, and for some good reason, it’s even easier for them. But nobody reminds them it's 2025 when they hold back their own money and expect everything to come from the man. Nobody tells them it's 2025 when they're planning their dream weddings without contributing a single kobo.
Na man dey do man las las, NEPO kids dey buy off the whole food in the canteen because they no wan queue while LAPO kids are being told to start cooking because it's 2025. Na money and fellow man dey do man.
I dey live in one beedrom, I marry woman put inside, she no add extra room, na me dey pay the bills but na she settle for less.
Chineke kpọkwa ha ọkụ  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 8:08am On Aug 05, 2025 |
Joyful365: OandO will need additional or around ₦12 trillion+ inflow of equity from shareholders at its current ₦53 to reach a share price of ₦900. This doesn't look likely in the next 7 years. Can you help with how you arrived at this figure? wish to learn more |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 6:15am On Aug 03, 2025 |
SonOfNobody: Ellah price may go up again any moment from now. If you're in, sit tight. Ellah, Oando and Japaul are 3 stocks that do generate big argument here |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 6:12am On Aug 03, 2025 |
chimex38: Sometime last year, they stated they were investing in AI to reduce exploration or rigging cost. They know it's an issue. I just hope it's part of their CAPEX this year so as to increase bottom line upcoming years. AI? in Oil and gas? And you believe that? To reduce cost? The Oando management is a very funny and crafty one. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 11:49pm On Aug 02, 2025 |
Zagee: OANDO has to be using helicopter to transport crude, cuz I don't understand why an increase in revenue is directly proportional to cost of sales. Is there no cost cutting measures to adopt?   |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 6:51pm On Aug 02, 2025 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 6:46pm On Aug 02, 2025 |
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Politics › Re: South Africans Humiliate Nigerian Man, Mocks Nigeria Over Leadership Failure by emmaodet: 6:21pm On Aug 02, 2025 |
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 11:23am On Aug 01, 2025 |
Zagee: Insurance business is strange. One quarter its 3b in profit, the next it's 600m in profit 😐.
Only one so far was "caring" enough to give an economic forecast on Q3😂 Extreme sports! I avoid insurance stocks like a plague |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 2:02pm On Jul 30, 2025 |
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 9:48am On Jul 30, 2025 |
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 9:15am On Jul 30, 2025 |
Raider76: The way these so called fuel marketers are complaining that the proposed Dangote fuel distribution plan will lead to job losses you would think Alhaji is going to use drones and robots to do the distribution. Yeye people.  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmaodet: 8:38am On Jul 30, 2025 |
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