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Products of a failed education system

Nigeria cannot afford to pay it's citizens 10000 dollars even in the next 1000 years

Why always imo? What's wrong with you imo Igbos?

Violent people preaching peace

Absolutely baseless.

LRNZH:
That was the question I asked you in the beginning. Countries that have seceded in recent times, how are they fairing? Give me all the countries that seceeded in the past 50 years and how they're fairing today.

Look to be honest with you, if Biafra were to happen today, no one has a plan how the system will run.... Regulatory system, power sharing, law enforcement, banking and finance protocol, national security etc.

It is better to fix what we have today than to think that reinventing the wheel will solve our problems. What the SE is undergoing in Nigeria is not any worse than what the rest of the country is undergoing. In fact the SS is worse than the SE yet no agitations.

I assure you that the Igbos are shooting themselves in the foot politically but they don't know. How can you trust an Igbo man/woman to be Nigeria's president when secession is all he/she is thinking of?

The proper question is that if there is a secession, will Nigeria be better than the seceding country? If Biafra or Oduduwa republic is declared tomorrow, will Nigeria be better than Biafra or Oduduwa republic? The answer is no.

Nigeria at its current state is a failed country. That is a fact.

Yes, it is better we fix what we have but are we ready to fix them? The answer is no. Tribal politics, hatred and ignorance won't let us fix our problems.

A vast majority of Nigerians don't even acknowledge that these are our problems. In fact, most Nigerians don't even know what the problems of the country are. Nigerians don't know what necessary tools and ingredients are necessary to develop a country.

Who told you there's no plan on how to run Biafra and even if there isn't any, isthat a major concern?

The idea of an Igbo president is as a result of the faulty foundations and frameworks laid by military juntas. Besides, if Nigerians could vote a sharia promoting Buhari, what stops from voting a secessionist? Nigerians are so ignorant that they can vote a fish to be president.

The crux of the matter is that the way the country was setup to run by military men is hindering the progress of the country and nobody is thinking about fixing this fundamental problem.

If its a federal road

North West, North East, North Central: 1- 4 years
South West/South South: 1 - 4 years
South East : 10 - 15 years

If its a state road - 2 - 5 years in all zones

Horrible!

LRNZH:
What do you mean nobody cares about the Niger Delta? That's how you people that agitate for Biafra look down on the people of the SS.

Go and read how long it took established countries like China, USA, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Australia, Japan, Singapore to be what they are today.

Brazil. Russia, India, South Africa are still struggling to get there and they have been practising continous democracy for greater than 16 years.

I wish Nigeria well, that's why I am trying to help you reason out of the moronic idea of secession.

The Western world does not care about the Niger Delta. I'm a Niger Deltan myself.

The same excuse you people keep giving is by saying we should study how long it took other countries to get to where they are. Hey, that was then and not now. The world has changed and the world is still changing fast. If we call ourselves a nation, we should be looking at how we should structure our country to enable us develop as fast as possible but are we doing that? No!

I would want Nigeria to succeed but if want to continue as a country, we have to do it well. We must have a proper constitution and every ethnic nation must agree to the abide by it and pledge to contribute to the development of the country.

The secession idea is not moronic. Countries have seceded all over the world, some succeeded and progressed while some failed.

LRNZH:
You write like a child. So naïve.

Like I said you have not thought this Biafra plan out well and it is clear to even the educated Igbos that it will not work out well.

So corruption and economic hardship are not affecting Nigeria abi? You think western powers will allow you to split Nigeria as you deem fit without intervening to protect oil installations in the Niger Delta?

Nigeria's back up plan is democracy and the entrenchment of the rule of law which we are trying to get through the current government. By 2019, we will give them their scorecard like we gave GEJ /PDP in 2015. Slow and steady wins the race.
When the Igbos were enjoying the largess under GEJ how come they didn't secede?

It is not by gra gra.

You are a typical Nigerian, who unconsciously never wishes his country well.

The untold economic hardship facing Nigerians is caused by the faulty foundations of the country, everything else comes second. Nigeria has been on a perpetual arab spring since 1966. The country has not progressed since then. Military men have run the country to the ground and shaken the foundations which the founding fathers have laid. I want the Nigeria which Azikiwe, Awo et al fought for and not this ragtag country.

If your backup plan has not worked for sixteen years, why will it work in the next fifty years? This is exactly my problem with Nigerians, you people never learn.

And forget about the Niger Delta, nobody cares about the Niger Delta.

I'm not moved.

LRNZH:
[b]Kai these my black brothers...you need everything to be explained to you in black & white!

Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Jordan. Only Tunisia achieved the object of the Arab Spring. While Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Jordan saw no changes, Libya, Egypt and Syria are worse off today.

That's a success rate of 1/7 or 14%. If you are asked to invest your life savings in a business venture with a chances of making profit at 1/7, chance of making loss of 3/7 (43%) or you will not make loss or profit chance of 3/8 (43%), will you make such an investment? No, that is if you have sense.

That's exactly what you're doing with Biafra. What is your fall back plan if Biafra doesn't turn out as planned?

Another example is to look at countries that seceded recently in Africa ...South Sudan, Eritrea... Are they better off than they were before they seceeded?

You can fix a steady democracy over time but you will have more difficulty directing how a secession will go. Is it Nnamdi Kanu that will be the first president of these Biafra of your dreams? Ordinary MASSOB and IPOB can't even agree on your strategy. What will happen to Ekweremadu, Anyim, Obiano, Peter Obi, Okorocha, Ngige, Onu etc in this Biafra?

You people have not thought this thing through.[/b]

You are not being objective.

The fact are out there like the sun.

- Nigeria unlike the arab nations is am ethnically pluralistic country. The situations are very different, while the Arab nations barely have issues bordering tribal conflicts and relations, Nigeria does. Unlike Nigeria, the Arab spring started as a result of the economic hardship and corruption faced by citizens of certain Arab nations but was hijacked by foreign powers along the way. They were not protesting for secession and disintegration of their country like people in Nigerians are doing. And guess what, the country with genuine revolutionary intentions got back on its feet.

Whether the seceding nation will progress or not is none of your business. They are not progressing in Nigeria either so whats your point? Nigeria has not turned out as planned after 55 years of independence, what is Nigeria's backup plan?

LRNZH:
I will give you a very simple example: the Arab Spring. How many countries have come out of it in one piece?

Steady Democracy has a better chance of success in nation building than revolution. Go and check history.

Our 4th republic is a baby...just 16 years old. We are focusing on the wrong solution by asking for secession.

Tunisia even after the Arab spring still has a better HDI ranking than Nigeria, so whats your point? We are now sixteen years in a democracy but the country is still not developing. Doesn't that tell you that something is fundamentally wrong with Nigeria?

Secession is one of the solutions to solve our teething problems, it is not the only solution. Steady democracy that is built on injustice, inequity, hatred and greed will stand no chance of success in a million years and that is why Nigeria will not develop.

LRNZH:
[b]None of you agitating people is a serious human being
Which of you has been able to manage your ordinary states properly. Which state is truly sustainable if oil stops flowing in Nigeria today?
In all honesty no region can manage itself based on how the states have fared so far.
The best run states are in the SW but we all know that all their revenue are tied to Nigeria's oil industry directly or not. If Oodua Republic goes on its own, it will lose the oil businesses from the Nigeria Delta and other ancillary businesses like oil servicing, banking and IT that benefit from the oil industry. It will be like Benin Republic but it may be worse off because theres no Nigeria to rely on for car imports revenue.
Biafra is a waste of time because they cannot even decide who belongs to it or not. The SS will not go with Biafra. That is certain. Infighting will kill the Igbo dominated country if it sees the light of day. I see South Sudan in Biafra at best.
Niger Delta Republic will be like Equatorial Guinea where one eyed man has cornered the wealth of his small country and left the rest in poverty while the West turns its face the other way because western IOCs are benefiting form the oil. Is it Tompolo or Boyloaf that will be president now that DSP Alams is dead? The strongest armed militant will be president for sure.
Arewa Republic is definitely unsustainable or will be like Niger Republic at best but with the squabbles that Sudan had before the split. Because the northern Christian minorities will know no peace and will not sit back. The problem is that almost every northern state has them- minorities. How do you even draw the map of this Arewa Republic without satisfying only the Muslims?
The middle belt may be closest to self sustenance because their agricultural potentials are immense. But a landlocked country full of illiterates and so many tribes... That is another Rwanda waiting to happen. Igala vs Ebira, Tiv vs Jukun, Berom vs Fulani.
I pity you guys. We better put all hands on deck and make Nigeria work. Our diversity and strategic position in Africa is our best chance as a race.[/b]
Lalasticlala come and see how Nigerians reason....

What an ignorant comment

1. Nigerian states have economic, legal and institutional limitations
2. Most Nigerian states were created by ignorant and shortsighted military rulers.
3. Nigerian States cannot sustain themselves because they have been structured to be parasitic.
4. Nigeria has been operating as an illegal country from 1966 till date. That is why the country is totally messed up.
5. A country does not grow on the back of injustice, inequality, hatred and greed.
6. If certain sections of the country believe they can prosper as a sovereign nation, they have every right to pursue their aim.
7. Nigeria at its present state is not much better than the Benin Republic you mentioned in your comment. The two countries are on the same developmental phase both human and infrastructural.
8. You, like a vast majority of Nigerians are totally ignorant of the core problems facing Nigeria. You rather wait every four years to vote a "good president" to salvage your useless country rather than agitate to fix the fundamental issues hindering the progress of the country.

They're discussing their funerals.

Ok

Crying for a witch!

Is her name Ijeoma? I thought she did her traditional marriage in Ibadan?

Nigeria does not deserve care.

Justdulla:
. If her daughter and grand daughter would end up as thieves like diezani, then its better make dem no reach her level......Level or wealth doesn't Guarantee heaven u know

Tell me what Diezana stole and prove that she stole it.

kestolove95:
While I pray for her quick recovery its also sad to know dat dia is no coming back from cancer, nd may God forbid me to pray for my dota to b like her, who wanna hv a tif and cancer patient as a dota..

Your daughter and grand daughters will never reach her level in Jesus Name.

As long as it will be in NIGERIA, then your dreams are nothing but pipe. I am very sorry.

I just wanna know? Will Nigeria be worse or better if Igbos and their next of kins leave the country?

African Goddess

Rabbits are normally found in the bush and not in the office. That rabbit is a witch

And this person calls himself "educated"

yomi007k:
Breast milk n kitten honey u mean?


Becos aint no oda milk n honey.

Lol. There are some benefits of being a NIGERIAN.

Security - Although our security is messed up, you still can't claim we have no security at all.

An international Identity: Being a Nigerian gives you a national identity when travel to other nations. Although we don't have a good reputation, its worth something.

Basic Infrastructure: Our infrastructure sucks when compared to what obtains in developed countries but its something. The roads you drive on, the little electricity you get are little benefits you gain.

Education: Nigerians pay less for education (although substandard) than most countries in the world.

A means and platform for economic survival: You're provided with a platform through which you can effectively organize economic activity and seek profit to further enhance your economic and social status.


These are basic. . .

Thats not up to a 100 megawatts in 8 years. Kudos

Honestly speaking, if the country splits today, nothing changes. Each of the seceding countries will still be third world countries.

You get to live in united and peace loving country flowing with milk and honey.

HCF:
Omoni is NOT a Yoruba Woman o. She is from South-South.... Born in Edo state.

Really? I thought she was yoruba?