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Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 4:03pm On Mar 23, 2020
sagenaija:
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I knew you were going to say that your first sentence. But do you remember that I have shown you an Arab - Christian Prince - sometime ago? Maybe you will still call that one an 'Oyinbo'.

In case you still regard that as a white man let's have a go at it without them. You said we try to avoid the Koran and go into stories. Let us go into the Koran.

Can you see a clear contradiction between Koran 3:45 and 19:17?

With such glaring mistake can you still claim it  is a criterion to discern truth from falsehood?

Who exactly was sent to Mary; was it Spirit or angels?

If it was angels, how many angels were sent to Mary; was it an angel or a number of angels?
smh...what's contradiction here?. Or you ran out of ideas?.

3:45 was a good news 19:17 was a process of event..how's that contradiction?.


Spirit and Angel, what's their difference according to you?.

Angel Jubril (Gabriel) was sent to her.

You are learning new things from CP right?. You are in for a failure
Christianity EtcRe: Bishop Oyedepo Criticized For Holding Service At Canaanland Amid Covid-19 by Empiree: 4:19am On Mar 23, 2020
post=87664741:
This is what our Holy Book told us in times like this......
Is it not clear now that muslims obeyed the authority but you guys defiled tha law. Later you will criticize govt if it takes action. Although I am not surprised that Ogun government didnt take action bcus your governor himself his christian extremist. So this will go down in history that you christians disobeyed authority.


When govt declared no gathering of more than 50 people, muslims recognize constituted authority based on verse of Quran Sura 4:59


O you who believe! obey God and obey the Messenger and those in authority from among you;
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 12:05am On Mar 23, 2020
sagenaija:
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This is an answer for you:
https://youtu....be/LUsMu6FymcM

You Moslems kill a lot of rams that it's possible that some of you end believing that you are like them. And you begin to behave like them. Emp..iree, are you one of such?

You are already trying to deny your hadiths. Whao!
as usual, white man is your safety net. They downloaded everything in your head and you take it hook line and sinker.

The guy is talking rubbish and I'm not in mood to refute nonsense he says.


Oh, you said Muslims kill lots of Rams. Very well then. We slaughter RAMs as a result of covenant made btw God and Abraham (as). So we follow Abraham religious practices who is father of faith. Maybe you forgot Genesis 22:1-20

So rethink your stance.
Foreign AffairsRe: 5.3 Magnitude Earthquake Hits Zagreb, Croatia (Photos, Video) by Empiree: 5:04pm On Mar 22, 2020
Kylekent59:
Come to think of it, imagine you borrow a car from your neighbour, you took your GF out on a date and this tremor happens, which as a result totalled the car. How are you gonna explain to your neighbour? what excuse are you gonna give?


May we not je gbese in this life.
insurance deductible
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 4:20pm On Mar 22, 2020
You are still telling stories. Bring out those missing links of Qur'an. Only then I can reason with you. Otherwise you are wasting your time


As for your claim that the stories are from Islamic sources, this is easily debunked. Have you ever heard of orientalists?. They worked on so many Islamic texts except Qur'an bcuz Quran is Divinely protected.

Do you know that a famous movie about Islamic history titled The Message, most of the cast were nonmuslims yet they perfectly played the role. They are called orientalists or mutashriqun. They have written and inserted false narratives in islamic texts. That is why you always see oyinbo people cling to such narratives and sell it to aguntan like you bcuz they know that you have no sense.

Thank God for Qur'an. It is a furqan(criterion) with which we discern truth from falsehood. Mutashriqun will always try to avoid Qur'an and rely on silly narrative.
sagenaija:
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Stories. Evidence.

I know you Empir.ee.

One thing I know about you is that you lack depth.

Now, back to your stories and evidence. If a Judge asks a person to provide evidence to show or prove that he was not at a crime scene or location and the person goes at length to tell the story of a meeting he was involved in a hundred kilometres away giving graphic details of what went on and when, can his STORY become an EVIDENCE that may lead to him being believed?

So, when you rant and rave about stories and judges it only shows that you are shallow.

The truth is that the STORIES of Islam are what shows Islam for what it is. You simply CANNOT divorce Islam from its stories.

They are not my stories. They are Islam's stories.

For example, how did you come to know what you know about Mohamed? Obviously from the stories of Islam. Because the Koran has little to say about the lifestyle of Mohamed who Moslems are supposed to emulate. You have to resort to STORIES about him to get picture of his lifestyle.

Do you see then that it is impossible for you as a Moslem to discountenance Islam's stories?

Do the stories of Islam tell us that the Koran has been changed and amended over time and the earlier or previous versions destroyed?
The answer is: YES!

But because you know where they may lead you to, you must DENY any presentation of Islamic history especially when presented by others who are non-Moslems. The fact that they are quoting from islamic sources is pushed aside by you. You don't want to face the reality. You want to stick to your FANTASY.

You end up living, like I said, in DENIAL. You don't get it yet, do you?

So, it's simple: keep living in your FANTASY world or face the REALITY and TRUTH. The choice is yours.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 6:07am On Mar 22, 2020
You don't get it, do you?. It is very simple pal. I'm not interested in your stories. Bring another Qur'an that is different from what we have today. Only then your stories are credible. Otherwise your are wasting your precious time, buddy

You don't believe in prophet muhammad (saw) but you are talking about variant recommended by the prophet that you don't believe in.

Stop wasting your time and do the needful. What you are doing here is like you are in court of law trying to convince the judge about what happened. You keep telling judge stories until judge asks you for evidence. Instead of providing evidence you keep giving stories. What do you think judge would do to your case?. You would throw your case out of the window which means your stories lack substance. I know you africans like to believe White nonmuslims because you feel good about their trash.

Keep watching him buddy.
sagenaija:
Did you watch the video?
I doubt if you did. Typical Moslem fashion.
If you did you wouldn't be going on the road you're on.

How did Abu Bakar compile the Koran?
Was it on Allah's instructions?

When Uthman made his Koran why did he destroy some other 'Koran'?
Why did he make changes to his compilation?

What of Al-Hajjaj's involvement in Koranic 'metamorphosis'? Why did he destroy competing copies and even refused to use the variant of a man who had been recommended by the prophet Mohamed?

What was Uthman's family's reaction to what Al-Hajjaj did in destroying copies of the Koran prior to his 'revision'?

If, in spite of all these, you refuse to accept the reality of the 'evolution' of your Koran and you don't see that as DENIAL then the problem you are faced with may be more than that of denial.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 6:12pm On Mar 21, 2020
sagenaija:
Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality.
ats denial herer?. I just challenged you to bring forward a Quran that is in conflict with the ones we have but you said it is denia. Seriously?.

Regardless what happened historically, it was impossible to have one universal Quran without contradiction till today if not by God's Divine Plan that protected and still protecting Quran. If you challenge me to bring different Bibles right now I will supply you with different bibles with different contents. It is so easy. That's what I am asking you to do the same for Quran. Let me give you example. You have King James Version (Bible) which was originally published in 1611. In this Bible, 'he' is used for Jesus. But now, Queen James Version (Bible) was published on November 27, 2012. Everywhere in the King James Version where "he" is used for Jesus, "she" is used for Jesus in Queen James Version.



The Queen James Bible Paperback – November 27, 2012. The Queen James Bible is based on The King James Bible, edited to prevent homophobic misinterpretation. Homosexuality was first mentioned in the Bible in 1946, in the Revised Standard Version.


This is just small challenge. There are hundreds of others.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 2:47pm On Mar 21, 2020
sagenaija:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6czWRyDgjo
The Islamic history of the Koran tells a different story from what Moslem apologists claim about the Koran being 'perfectly' preserved, right down to the letter, from the time it was revealed to Mohamed.

This video, quoting copiously from islamic sources, clearly shows the truth.
leave story. Bring another Qur'an different from what we have.. That's a determine factor.. Not stories
TravelRe: Adamawa, The State With Most Tribes In Nigeria? by Empiree: 12:20pm On Mar 21, 2020
malikombi:
I agree with you but imagine today's Nigeria is about 4 or 5 different countries?? Definitely our problems will be less compounded
India has 645 tribes. Their population is larger than Nigeria yet they get their act together.

Different tribes is not excuse but what I have listed.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 12:17pm On Mar 21, 2020
sagenaija:
https://youtu.be/W6cz...WRyDgjo
The Islamic history of the Koran tells a different story from what Moslem apologists claim about the Koran being 'perfectly' preserved, right down to the letter, from the time it was revealed to Mohamed.

This video, quoting copiously from islamic sources, clearly shows the truth.
old propaganda. Try harder
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 5:42am On Mar 21, 2020
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 5:42am On Mar 21, 2020
TravelRe: Adamawa, The State With Most Tribes In Nigeria? by Empiree: 2:20am On Mar 21, 2020
malikombi:
Lord Luggard really did a bad thing by amalgamating this complex entity named Nigeria and our leader then also erred by signing the union. Maybe our problems would be less if not amalgamated
Amalgamation is not the problem. You need to stop giving this excuse. Here are more countries out there with different tribes that are far complex than you.

Your problem in Nigeria is yourselves.



Average Nigerian Is Not:

sincere

patriotic

law abiding

loving fellow Nigerians

is very wicked

and the list goes on
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Association Of Nigeria: Violation Of Religious Right by Empiree(op): 3:25pm On Mar 18, 2020
budaatum:
It is not true that "all arrested terrorists have been CHRISTIANs"!
I am sure you saw the list that gone viral after Nathaniel Samuel was arrested?. Which Muslim names you seen on the list?.

And how do you determine book Haram is Muslim group?. Is it by saying "Allahu Akbar" and beheading people?. If this is standard parameter then, all those book Haram bearing Christian names are terrorists.

So far you have confirmed what I said initially that no Christian condenmed CAN manifesto. Those guys in the other thread who read it said it's a "strategic evangelism" to convert Muslims. They refused to condenm it despite obvious violations of Christ teachings and the NIGERIAN constitution.

You need to take your time and read it.
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Association Of Nigeria: Violation Of Religious Right by Empiree(op): 2:47pm On Mar 18, 2020
budaatum:
Why would you tell such a blatant lie? huh
modified. Read my updated reply


What lie did I tell?
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Association Of Nigeria: Violation Of Religious Right by Empiree(op): 2:42pm On Mar 18, 2020
budaatum:
The similarities, which you want to deny, is that some idiots on both sides are ignorant and stupid, with this thread being the same as some Muslims claiming to want to Islamise Nigeria. Makes one wonder if either side will kill all those who do not convert!

If what you posted is CAN Manifesto, then CAN is like boko haram, in my own opinion.
Then, how's book Haram Muslim when in fact, all arrested terrorists have been CHRISTIANs?..we all seen the names published by govt, isn't?. Besides why do you doubt their manifesto?. Do your research now.

In your comparison btw book Haram and CAN, CAN is far more dangerous becuz it is a registered or licensed institution recognized by its religious adherents and constitution of the country.

No Muslim adherents recognized book Haram and certainly NIGERIAn constitution doesn't recognize the group.



Don't Forget:


"A dead book Haram is Muslim. A captured book Haram is not"
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 9:55pm On Mar 17, 2020
sagenaija:
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The same ustaz that couldn't debate clearly?
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guy, challenge my post and leave the man alone
HealthRe: Coronavirus: FG Discourages Nigerians From Traveling by Empiree: 7:14pm On Mar 17, 2020
igahdavid:
Whenever I hear this self-isolate, I just can't help but laugh.
How can someone self-isolate in Nigeria?
You expect people to willingly stay indoors in this hot weather for 14days without Electricity
.

They should better quarantine everybody coming in for 14 days. Or close down the airport and all borders for the next 30days

IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 7:03pm On Mar 17, 2020
Born2Freak:
Nonsense.

Only a brainwashed evil clown would see the Coronavirus as a blessing or a good thing

Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree:
Paul claimed to be "chosen" by God and Jesus. If God chose someone it means he can not go wrong. but Paul did the very opposite of everything that previous prophet stood for including defilement of Jesus teachings.

In the Act Of Apostle 9:3-6, Paul claimed to hear voice of Jesus in or around Damascus


"As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”

“Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked.

“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”




To prove this is a lie, that Paul was not inspired by God or Jesus, in the book of Matthew 24:23-25 Jesus said:




"At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time."


This is exactly what happened. Paul claimed "apostle" for himself after Jesus.

Christianity EtcRe: Christian Association Of Nigeria: Violation Of Religious Right by Empiree(op): 5:44pm On Mar 17, 2020
budaatum:
They are related. All are ideologies, different ways of seeing the world, with some on both sides screaming "dominate", "extinguish", "exterminate".
Bro, you are going off the cliff. This thread is about Christian Association Of Nigeria written agenda in Nigeria which is quite evident. We are not talking about European or Western culture here.


This thread is specific about CAN which claims to be CHRISTIAN representative in Nigeria. Your later reaction is drifting from your initial reaction and it is sounding like those guys in the other thread who reacted to manifesto in support of CAN. You said earlier that no Christian would support CAN manifesto but your later action appears to be "neutrally supportive".

You can not use BH as example of Islam/Muslims bcuz no legal Muslim institutions in Nigeria support the group.

But CAN is legal and registered institution that is hell-bent in disrupting peace in the NIGERIA and infringing the rights of Muslims in Nigeria.
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Association Of Nigeria: Violation Of Religious Right by Empiree(op): 5:17pm On Mar 17, 2020
budaatum:
There is no doubt many, on both sides, share the "plan To Extinguish" the other, Empire. See this thread where the discussion is 'Islam wants to extinguish Western Culture'.

But [url=https://quran.com/49/13?translations=43,19,101,85,84,21,20,17,95,22,18]those who go against the Creator will all fail[/url].
How's the two related?.

Western culture is not a religion. We are talking Islam and CHRISTIANITY in Nigeria.
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Association Of Nigeria: Violation Of Religious Right by Empiree(op):
budaatum:
That's a lie, as is a lot of your claim here, but I'll deal with this one alone. It's a lie like the one some Christians say about Muslims, that most of them are terrorists who want to eliminate Christians by all means, when the truth is, most Muslims are more concerned with their daily bread.

Not all nor most Christians support CAN. Most Christians have never heard of this CAN Manifesto and if they do many won't support it.
Kindly watch this former pastor Mathew Oyewole now Alhaj Mos'ud Oyewole' testimony about CAN manifesto and the funding to end Islam in Nigeria before year 2000. If you read the beginning of their manifesto they said the same thing.


Watch this part 2 from the beginning to 30mins of his lecture. It is up to you if you want to watch the rest.


This Was The Testimony Of Former CAN member Revealing Christisn Association Of Nigeria's plan To Extinguish Islam From Nigeria With Help Of Western Power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0KCQmUEjww
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Association Of Nigeria: Violation Of Religious Right by Empiree(op): 2:20pm On Mar 17, 2020
haffaze777:
I will like to attend one of his lecture or watch his video,do u know how I can get his clips or how to I know when he is having a lecture and venue?
scroll up please to click on their (Ustaz Jamiu Adegunwa, mallam Yusuf Adepoju and Prof. Miftaudeen Arikewusola's) Facebook pages for updates.


Your Signature Thou grin

Igbo Are coming to Islam in drove. Try to watch Alfa Soliu Nwanekwu (Alfa Ibo). Very brilliant Islamically. Just type his name on Google and he will come up on Ustaz Jamiu Adegunwa's program.
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 2:16pm On Mar 17, 2020
CORONA PANDEMIC: WHAT A BLESSING!


Every calamity comes with its lessons. The lessons learnt from this ravaging corona pandemic is about the nothingness of man. Now, it's apparently clear that man is not only a failure to the beautiful world that habours him, but also a huge disaster to himself.


The technology and science which he fondly relies upon to the detriment of his faith in Allah is, after all, a limited skill. He can now see that he is doom to self-inflicted pain, bewilderment, anxiety and confusion, except he obeyed his Lord.


Man is so confident of his ability, capability and, sometimes, nobility to assume a total control over the planet earth, so much that no animal may continue to exist; no bird flies in the air or insect roams at will, except by the will of man, irrespective of Allah's prohibition of some certain foods.


Of course, man eats and drinks of his own desire, without considering the limitations set by Allah. The history of man is replete with such violations which amount to disobeying Allah, but this particular one commited by few has finally landed the entire human race in trouble.


Now, our survival, as humans, is threatened. The global interactions are already broken into pieces. The artificial equipment-birds crafted by man, otherwise called Aeroplane, have started vacating the airspace and the territorial waters. In many countries, people are locked up!


Our voluntary decision to remain under lock certainly make mockery of our often chanted "Freedom of movement". Even the freest and the most powerful amongst us have been compelled by this ghostly virus to limit their movement.


For the fear of being hit by the notorious CONVID19, the entire human race is gradually being concealed in burqa. The rebellious soul who, years before, had abhorred seeing a Muslim woman covered in Niqaab is now (himself, his entire family, friends and neighbours - male and female) enveloped in purdah. We perform ablution, even with soap!


Man, so, we are this fragile?

So, we're not solid!

Human knowledge, before now, had kept alive the unfit, who wouldn't have survived; and we seemed to be absolutely confident of ourselves to tell what and who should live on the planet earth. Thus, we conquered the world.


But unfortunately, it only remains for us to conquer our worst enemy - our own ego, which has landed us in this pandemic trouble! We are confronted by evil - a notorious child of our egoistic desire. We are yet to understand how to fight the evil!


For the affluent and the privileged, the worst of ailments comes with a trip to Europe and the Western world where the best of treatment is delivered with ease. But now, with the spread of this fearsome ghost, even the whole of Europe runs for cover.


It's even more pathetic that our places of worship must necessarily be closed. It's so pathetic that in some parts of the "world in plague", the believers must pray at home. Indeed, no decision could be saner. May Allah accept the believers' worship.


A lesson for the believers is that here is a world of sin, but you mustn't abandon the sinners to their way of life. We must preach to them and take the message of the Prophet to the nook and cranny of the world and as far as China.


For if we didn't do, the consequences of the sinner's taste and desire would be globally shared; and even the holy sanctuary may feel the impact, as the believers are now bared from accessing its blessings for the fear of this notorious plague.


As you can see, the virus has so far defied the strength of our collective wisdom, including the pride of science. It has humbled our arrogance of power and the annoiting oil of the liars. It's now high time we started repenting with a lot of istigfaar. May Allah protect the human race.


Abu Mazeedatilkhayr Bn Sa'eed
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 12:00am On Mar 17, 2020
LordReed:
Who is talking about comparing religions? I said the things wrong with the Quran and Islam are mirrored in the things wrong with the Bible and Christianity. If you don't know what that means you could have just asked instead of jumping into conclusions.

Both the Bible and the Quran are a collection of ancient myths and fairytales, none of which have an iota of evidence that such things took place.

When it comes to the practice of both religions, there is plenty to find objectionable with both.
Oh I see. Sounds like you're one of those guys whose brain are suspended btw heaven and earth, which means you dont understand yourself to begin with cheesy

You will be a waste of my precious time jare
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Association Of Nigeria: Violation Of Religious Right by Empiree(op): 11:13pm On Mar 16, 2020
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FULL DETAILS ABOUT FALSE ALLEGATION, VICTIMIZATION AND INTIMIDATION OF PROF. MIFTAUDEEN MURITADOH ARIKEWUSOLA (AIRARCD) WORLDWIDE OF LIFE BY CHRISTIANS' ASSOCIATION OF NIGERIA (CAN)SAKI WEST LOCAL GOVERNMENT AREA BRANCH.

This is to bring to your notice that the above named association (CAN) has been raising false allegations to our dear Prof. Miftaudeen Muritadoh Arikewusola of AIRARCD as far back from 4 years ago dated 19th of Feb 2016, 28th Feb 2019. 13th Nov 2019 and 9th March 2020 respectively.

The first meeting was held at the Baagi's palace where both parties were called to meet in which Baagi asked CAN to prove their allegation levelled against Prof. Miftaudeen at the end of the meeting, no evidence was provided.


The second meeting was held at the Legislative Chamber of Saki West Local Government Secretariat where both parties were called to meet, where the Divisional Police Officer (D.P.O)held the seating. CAN Saki West Branch were asked to prove the allegation levelled against the said Prof, also no evidence was provided.


The third meeting was held at the Oyo state Police headquarters Eleyele in Ibadan, the commissioner of police office. Where the both parties were called to meet headed by the Deputy commissioner of Police also spearheaded by CAN Saki West , in which they were asked to prove their allegations on this said Prof at the long run, no evidence was provided to proof their allegation.

Fourthly, CAN Saki West Branch has gone ahead by drafting letter alleging this same Prof. Miftaudeen in which they copy the Area Commander of Police Saki, the D.P.O. Saki Division, the Director of S.S.S. Saki, the President of Saki Parapo(National), the Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs Saki and the Saki Parapo (Home branch).



This said Ustaz is a Professor in Dynamic ,Islamic and Comparative religion. His association was fully registered with the Corporate Affairs Commission (C.A.C.) with Rc102590 and there have been no violence, fumble and crisis in all where he preaches . He preaches Peace, Love , Tolerance And Accommodation.

In view of this , it is clear and obvious that CAN Saki West Branch has laid false allegations on this Prof. Miftaudeen for four (4) consecutive times which shows that CAN Saki West has hidden agenda against Prof. Miftaudeen and nothing should befall or happen to him.



Allah SWT said:


"Say to those who disbelieve, You will be overcome and gathered together to Hell, and wretched is the resting place." (Aal-i-Imraan 3:12)




Share it please if you are my brother in faith. JazakumllahuKhair
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree:
LordReed:
There is plenty wrong with the Quran and Islam, most of which is mirrored in the criticisms of the Bible and Christianity.
you need exposure. Instead of me wasting my time trying to enlighten you, i think you should rather watch and listen to muslim religious comparators like these 2 Jamiu Adegunwa and Yusuf Adepoju,


Talking about criticisms, at no point in time Bible or Quran frowned religious comparative. Thats not criticisms. In the Book of ISAIAH 1:18 reads:


“Come let us reason together”



In the Quran Al-Imran 3.64.


Say (to them, O Messenger): "O People of the Book, come to a word common between us and you, that we worship none but God, and associate none as partner with Him, and that none of us take others for Lords, apart from God. " If they (still) turn away, then say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims (submitted to Him exclusively). "



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD-k6zIwGvk&t=535s
IslamRe: A Letter To Yoruba Islamic Modrasah Scholars by Empiree: 7:00pm On Mar 16, 2020
It is sad. I would Fault many parents.

Back in the days (and still now to an extent), ile keus are meant for Omo lile. If parents are tired of correcting their wards, they sent them to ile keu.

While the gentle ones go to school for western education, thugs and hard children are pushed to madrasah. It is why we have many Muslims as thugs, people who can recite the Qur'an fluently but no understanding of it.

For example, in our madrasah, some of the kids we have were brought by their parents cos they can't handle them. Now imagine different homes dropping their various problems, did you wanna kill Alfa?

After talking and lecturing, these Alfas result to beating. The fact is that parents should pay more attention to Islamic education, they should give it the same attention they give western education.

Until then, there can be little improvement. Parents spend hundreds of thousands for western education but complain when wards wanna buy tiras. We need to change our priorities and get them straight. If not, we are wasting our time flogging a dead horse


COPIED
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 6:28pm On Mar 16, 2020
THE HIDDEN FACTS ABOUT CHRISTIANITY & ISLAM.


1. CREATION OF MAN: In the world today, those in position of authority are adherent of different religions, yet this world, when God created our progenitor (Adam) and the dialogue that took place between God and His angels.
Bible say " _AND GOD SAID; LET'S US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE...._ (Gen. 1v26)

Quran say _"I WILL CREATE A TRUSTEE ON EARTH..._ (Quran2:30)

A careful glance on the above verses shows that God loves us, after he created Eve to become Adam's wife (Gen. 2v21-23), after God created Adam and Eve, He gave them laws (Gen.2v16-17; Quran2v35). This is the law of God to Adam & Eve in the Garden of Eden, but Satan deceived them into eating the forbidden fruit (Gen. 3v4-5; Quran2v36).

This was how Adam erred and brought about the problems we are encountering today. God sent them out of the Garden of Eden and cursed them, though they asked for forgiveness and God heard their plea. But the curse which God placed on them still persists as the reward of their sin. (Gen. 3v16-17, Quran2v37)

After this, God sent them out of the garden, and they proceeded to dwell on the earth. This was how religious activities started with God Almighty sending various prophets to the world (Luke4v24-27, Luke11v49, Quran2v38, 16v36).


2. ADVENT OF PROPHETS: The question that should assail us is, why should God raise the prophets for mankind? The simple answer is, Satan misled our forefather (Adam) and vowed to mislead the descendants of Adam. (Quran 7v11-12). That was why prophets were sent to warn mankind since the time of Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, but they were rejected which was in consonance with Satan's threat to Adam and Eve, in order to prevent mankind from Satan, Almighty God further admonishes humanity that they may not be deceived by Satan. (Quran40v4, 43v36-37). God referred to those who refuse to listen to His words as fools (Prov.12v23). Rather than heeding to this warning, our minds have become hardened. This has remained so because Satan's promise has come to pass even though there is nothing that can happen without God's will. ( Quran11v34). similarly Jesus Christ said "NO _ONE CAN COME TO ME UNLESS THE FATHER WHO SENT ME DRAWS HIM_ ....(John6v45&65).


3. *FOUNDATION OF WORHIP:* This is the beginning of religion on earth and it had now multiplied in manifold, though the most popular ones are *JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY, & ISLAM* . The adherents of Judaism claim to be the followers of Moses and they are known JEWS. Christians claim to be the followers of Jesus Christ, while the adherents of the religion of Islam claim to be the followers of Muhammad and are called Muslims. If we reflect deeply on this issue, we will observe that these *THREE PROPHETS* are descendant of Abraham. Why then, should people who claim that they belong to the same family fight themselves?

Why did the Jews reject Jesus Christ, despite the fact that he told them thus; that he has come to uphold the laws which they themselves believed in. ( John1:11; Matt.5v17-20). This was what led to the establishment of another religion by the lovers of Jesus Christ called *CHRISTIANITY* .

Although, Jesus Christ never established any new religion and never heard of *CHRISTIANITY* , it was after his demise that its establishment came into existence. The people that were first called *CHRISTIANS* after Jesus Christ were *PAUL & BARNABA* in Antioch. (Acts11v25-26). In this light, the Christians claimed to believe in Jesus Christ whom the Jews rejected.


When Muhammad came however he has come to fulfill all what is in the book of Moses and Jesus Christ. (Quran 3:3-4) If this is so why the grudges between the Muslims and Christians over who is worshipping the right God. It means there is something more, which is not very clear to us about religion.

Some people ask the question; what is the importance of _RELIGION TO HUMANITY_ ? Well, this is a very good question. But first and foremost, we shall observe what religion is... (James1v27). So as to know the importance of religion in the sight of God, the Quranic and. Biblical cited, shows that, it is God alone, that man must worship on earth. (Q51v56, Isaiah44v21).



4. *DIVERSITY OF RELIGION:* The current problem is that most people believe that all the prophets were given different religions and this has been the major cause of misconceptions in the world. This is not true because the God we worship is not God of confusion. (1Cor. 14v33, Quran 10v44).

Let's check the Christians evidences, which enable them to claim that nobody will gain the kingdom of God, _EXCEPT_ if he or she is a christian.

a. Anyone who refuse to accept Jesus Christ as the *SON OF GOD* will perish. (John3v16-18). Meanwhile, the Muslims do not believe, that God has a son. The Muslims faith hang on the fact " _HE BEGET NOT NOR WAS HE BEGOTTEN"_ (Q112v3). Therefore, the Christians believe that Muslims will perish.


b. Anyone who followers of a man (Muhammad) are Jokers, without following Jesus Christ. (John14v6)

c. Anyone do not believe in the Blood Atonement. (Heb. 9v22) because considering the Quranic verses, it is very clear that, the Muslims do not believe in the blood atonement or Christ crucifixion. This means that God will not forgive the Muslims for their sins.


These are the evidences which the Christians base their faith and has been causing problems.


Let also check the evidences that the Muslims have been discussing in their various mosques. If anybody refuse to be a muslim, he/she is a loser in the presence of God. (Quran3v19 & 85)

Though "if one refuse to be a christian, he/she is a loser in the presence of God. Then, which one is the way out among these *TWO* ?

5. *THE WORDS OF THE PROPHETS ABOUT GOD*: In the light of foregoing, we should note that, whatever these prophets reported are from God. This means that whatever is heard from *Moses* should agree with that of *Jesus Christ* and *Muhammad* because they were all sent by the same God. He sent them to us based on His promise to Adam as said earlier, so it is expected that whatever God will say to them should be in agreement with one another.

The greatest confusion today is about God, because some Christians claim that God is *3 in 1*, while some say there is *ONE GOD*.

Truthfully, there is only *ONE GOD* and not *3 in 1* as claimed by some Christians. Let us go straight to the scriptures ( _Bible & Quran_ ) Deut.6:4-9; Mark12:28-30; John17:3; 2 Sam. 22:32; 1Tim.2:5; Quran2:163, 41:6...

Therefore, the conflict between Christians and Muslims has been caused by lack of knowledge.


6. *WAY OF WORSHIP*: Some Christians claim to be worshippers of Jesus Christ. Are we supposed to worship Jesus Christ? (Quran17:23; Exo.20:3; Matt. 4:8-10).

First and foremost, God we aught to worship from man (Lev.19: 1-2; Quran4:43).


A. *Washing the whole body*

(i) Sexual Intercourse: we must clean ourselves with water before we worship God. This is what the Muslims practices and they called it *JANABAH* (Lev. 15:18; Quran5:6)


B. *Women Menstruation*: The post delivery bath, which comes after the childbirth blood. Muslims called it *NIFAS* ( Lev.15:19; Lev.12:1-5; Luke2:22-24; Quran2:222).

C. *Washing of some part of the body*: After the purification, it is normal for us to go to the place of worship. Are we suppose to go to the place of worship ( _Church or Mosque_ ) with dirty legs? No! We are expected to wash some parts of our bodies before we enter into the house of God. (Exo.30:17-21; John13:5-8; Quran5:6). This has just been discussed is about what is *ABLUTION* by the Muslims.

D. *Removing of Shoes*: This is the act of removing one's shoes before going into a place of worship. (Exo.3:5; Joshua5:15; Quran20:12). It is very clear that the prophets proclaim the same message from God that sent them.

E. *Invitation to Worship*: Noises are being made by the Muslims in their respective mosques everyday at their prayer times, I thought that what they are doing is just to disturb the peace of the public, until I came across a verse in the bible. (Neh. 9:4-5; Quran62:9; 5:58)


F. *Direction in Worship*: Is it true that the Muslims and the Christians must face a particular direction whenever they want to supplicate unto God? The Muslims face a particular direction called *QIBLAH*. But why? We shall observe that the prophets of God do not just face anywhere in worship but a specific direction. (1Kings8:44-45; Psalm5:7; Psalm138:2; Quran2:144) although God is everywhere, yet he has mandated us to do His will, and not what man thinks is right.



J. *TITHE/ZAKAT*: Payment of Tithe is conversant with Christians in the Church. The Muslims on their part called it *ZAKAT*, in which is payed at the end of every year. The Christians called it *TITHE* ( _One Tenth_ ) which is paid _every month_ and the _every week_ . If we take a critical look, we shall see that Jesus Christ was unhappy with those who were paying tithe at the beginning, (Luke11:42; Matt.23:23) why should Jesus Christ be angry with these people? Jesus was unhappy with his people, because most of the things God commanded them to do were not done. What the bible said was that tithe should be paid once in *three years* . ( Deut.14:28, Mal.3:10; Quran9:60) there is no compromise as per tithe, but we can give alms to people at anytime. (Luke11:41; Matt.12:41-44)


K. *Fasting/Lent*: There are two types of fasting for humanity.

a. The fast made made to request from God (Matt.6:16-18)

b. The fast, which God has made compulsory. (Jer.36:9; Ezra8:21; Quran2:183-185)

But today, the Christians do not observe fasting as it ought to be. This means that, in as much as Jesus Christ is still alive the Christians will not fast, even though Jesus Christ Himself ordained his followers to fast. (Matt.9:14-15). Then what is LENT? which is being observed by the Christians? Well the Bible confirm that Moses & Jesus Christ observed fasting. (Matt.4:2, Exo.34:28)



L. *Pilgrimage to the Holy Land*: Ordinarily, people should be visiting Jerusalem yearly for an act of worship, which should involve both the Muslims and the Christians. But the rather pointed to *Makkah* in Saudi Arabia for yearly pilgrimage. (Isaiah2:2; Micah4:2; Haggai2:6-9; Zech.14:16-17; Jer.22:5; Quran2:196; Quran3:96-97). God cursed Jerusalem based on the sturbboness of the Jews. It is not only God that condemned Jerusalem, even Jesus Christ did also. Anyone who goes to Jerusalem to worship has done nothing but to go and share part of the condemnation which is on Jerusalem. (Matt.23:37-39)



Nevertheless, Jerusalem is the place to worship as said by the Jews. But Jesus Christ said to a woman neither the mountain nor Jerusalem shall the father be worshipped yearly. (John4:7-21, Isaiah28:16; Psalm118:22-23; Matthew21:42-43; Gal.4:24-25; Quran3:96)



In conclusion, if we take cognizance of what Jesus Christ told his disciples in the bible. (John12v47-48, Quran6v125), we would notice some people, who refuse to accept the words of God and worship Him in the way He has ordained for man, which he has clearly established in both the BIBLE & QURAN. Thank you much for taking your time to read this tract. I pray that God will in His infinitive mercy give us wisdom to really understand the message of this pamphlet for both our worldly and heavenly salvation. Amen!

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Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 6:12pm On Mar 16, 2020
sagenaija:
Muttleylaff has said it all: you are being mischievous and dishonest.

Which previous prophet prophesied about Mohamed? None. Yet now you want to use that yardstick for others.

Because more and information are being unearthed about the flaws and rot in Islam your like think the only option to take is to look for how to discredit Christianity and Christians. Unfortunately it won't 'werk'. Christianity is superior to any other religion by far. Physical observances without a change from the heart is meaningless; And that is all that Islam stands for - physical observances. The only one who changes from the inside and gives meaning to life is Jesus Christ, who is more than a prophet - he is Saviour and Lord.

At the end of the day it is not really Paul you want to attack. It is all that Paul stood for that you want to discredit. And you know that all that Paul stood for is Christ and him crucified.

Have you ever asked yourself why the Koran or other Islamic books never attacked Paul like you are doing?
Bcus he doesnt exist, period.

Neither you nor him was able to establish link btw Jesus and Paul. Maybe you could help him out?. The only thing he quoted about Paul was "God said to me". This is how they lie about God all the time. Is "God said to me" evidence?.

From your write up actually shows you are not exposed yet. There is nothing wrong with islam or Quran.
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Association Of Nigeria: Violation Of Religious Right by Empiree(op): 5:56pm On Mar 16, 2020
UPDATE

Regarding Christian Association Of Nigeria's complaints against prof. Miftahudeen Arikewusola, the brother just left a voice note on whatsapp group that he and his group and other muslims have filed lawsuit against CAN. Upon learning they have been sued, some CAN members retracted that they didnt know CAN disrupted or file a complaint against the prof's free speech.

This is a lie obviously but we don't care about that. I wish I could post his audio here for you all to listen. They scared after realizing lawsuit is in place. But according to the prof, lawsuit will go forward bcus CAN will come after him again in the future due to previous experiences. They must be brought to book.

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