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Smhaykins:
Am not interested in proving anything to u.

Just telling u what I know.

Meanwhile, do u mean u only follow d rulings in Quran..n ignore d hadith...

So why do u do ablution d way it z explained in hadith...n not do it d way Quran talked abt it

Have a good day, buddy. I know your type. Bunch of lunatics.

Smhaykins:
It was narrated from Ibn ‘Umar that:
‘Uthman said: “I heard the Messenger of Allah [SAW] say: ‘It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim except in three cases: A man who commits adultery after having married; or one who kills intentionally, in which case he deserves retaliation; or one who apostatizes after having become Muslim, in which case he deserves to be killed.‘” [Emphasis mine] (Nasai 37:92)
The list of quotes calling for the murder of apostates is so numerous, I won’t mention them all, but here are some links:
Nasai 37:83
Nasai 37:93
Nasai 37:54
AbuDawud 40:3
Abu Dawud 40:2
Ibn Majah Hadith 2534
Ibn Majah 2533
Muslim 28:36
Bulugh al-Maram 1242
Bulugh al-Maram 1199
Bulug al-Maram 1241

Everything you posted her is not Quran. These are not first sources of islam. I asked you for Quran evidence but you posted story books. I will give you one more chance before you are dismissed. Quran is Supreme authority and the primary source.

AgentNairaland:
You said what has this action got to do with religion and I shown you a Quranic verse that backed it up because it got to do with high literacy rate in ur religion, islam..

Has any Christians youths gathered themselves burnt Police station because they were denial access to worship?? Why is violence a thing of joy in Islam, must you act like a SLAVE??

Oloribuku like you is the reason for religious chaos in the country. Mention where else Muslims burnt police vehicles for disrupting their religious service?. Oloribu ni most eyin kiriyo. First of all the story itself can not be verified. Secondly, you are so silly. Did you not see other Muslim leaders in Nigeria enforcing social distances?. You Christians are source of religious epidemic in Nigeria. The only thing you son of bitches are taught in your churches of Satan is to hate Muslims and Islam. To hell with your pastors and your churches. Eyin oloribu radara

Again you said every reported news in Nigeria is unreliably sourced. Sorry Are just coming from Desert?? News that had gone wide you claimed has NO reliable source, Bros you need CAMEL URINE walie

like I said before, you have nothing upstairs. So if a news go viral is evidence of it's authenticity, abi?. Ani oloribu ni eyin kiriyo. You have implicated other innocent Christians by your irrational hatred you displayed here. They teach you nothing but hate in your synagogues of Satan.

Those giving me likes and shares sees that I quoted the truth from ur war manual glorious Quran

Why did you forget to quote this verse of Qur'an 4:59?


O you who have believed(Muslims), obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you.


If you posted this verse of Quran it would have been evidence against this kastina youths. Even no one has the right to abuse entire hausa/fulani for action of these youths. You should only blame youths involved. But majority of you are very silly and religiously retarded.

At this Juncture, if you're pained or disturbed tell those that shutdown kaaba to remove that portion from the quran.. MASS ALARM

I knew you were stupid at outstart. Religious bigot you are.

Salvador1:
Prepared speech as usual


Unfortunate president

Be respectful. What more do you want?. How else do you want him to satisfy your greed?.

Your leaders are reflections of you

AgentNairaland:
See Them Again, Thank God Na Them And The Lifeless One Is There Watching

Religion Of Pieces And Destruction, Don't Blame Them They're Bunch Of Illiterate Like There Late Muhammad According To : -

Quran 2:23 If you are in doubt about the Divine authorship of what We have been sending down on Our servant Muhammad who can neither read or write then produce just a sūrah like it and call for help from all your supporters, all those (to whom you apply for help apart from God), if you are truthful in your doubt and claim.

You are as illiterate as youths in question. What has action of these youths got to do with abusing religion, sir?.

This goes to show that you and those who gave you Likes & Shares are covidiots yourselves. Your reaction is the reason there is no peace in the country. Instead of condenming the youths you are abusing religion.

By the way, every reported news in Nigeria is unreliably sourced. There is no way to verify authenticity of this bcuz soon another article may come up to rebuke this. That's state of affairs of journallism in the shithote

This is the first time Nigeria politicians will be waiting for the result they can't rig.


*It's either positive or negative.*

*No inconclusive results*



What a leveller ? COVID-19.

Smhaykins:
Islam truly recommends death for anybody who leaves Islam...but I don't know if it's still valid...cos many laws where made during war...z just like a Nigeria soldier leaving Nigeria army to join book haram...so wat wud u recommend dey do to him.

Where is the Quranic verse please?. i dont want hearsays or propaganda you were told in church. Bring your evidence from Quran, please

Born2Freak:
Empiree,

What is the ruling on using sanitizers which contain alcohol?

Are you (muslim) consuming it? No you are not, so there is no issue, alcohol for most cases is a cheap sterilization agent. You can use it. Alcohol is Haram for consumption, exception is when it is being done as a life saving thing and nothing is available. So this is case of necessity at this time. It is permissible to use alcohol for disinfecting and cleaning or mixing it with another product for this purpose in case of necessity. Alcohol is a generic term for those organic compounds that have one or more hydroxyl groups in it. The alcohol present in wines and other alcoholic drinks is ethyl alcohol. It is an intoxicant, and its internal consumption is forbidden in Islam. It is highly volatile, and can get into your blood through inhalation. But it does have uses in cleaning and disinfection.

For someone who is exposed to large doses of ethyl alcohol vapour, it presents a problem. An example would be someone in an industry or laboratory where ethyl alcohol is used. There are alternatives. Isopropyl alcohol swabs are now commonly used to clean and sterilise a wound, or skin prior to an injection. As a devout Muslim I try to avoid that as much as I can but in Islam during dire situations like emergency and close to death its allowed even to consume pork after three straight days of hunger only for survival, once you survive that must be stopped and repented. I usually simply wash my hands with soap.


Hope this answers you

Guy, your yanch is exposed. If you dare to watch the live video, please do so. You have been exposed. And if you dare to read the link and attachments please do so. They are written by CAN themselves. They called it manifesto. Read CAN manifesto yourself. Better still, go to Youtube and search for former Pastor Matthew Oyewole he talked about how CAN sent christians to study Islam and they later used it against Islam and muslims. They are BH. If dem born you well watch am

Corrections:
LOOK AT THIS ONE......SO ITS YOUR SENSELESS PHOTOSHOP STORY OF HOW C.A.N SENT A CHRISTIAN TO STUDY ARABIC FOR 9 YEARS TO GIVE A FALSE TESTIMONY IS WHAT IS VERIFIED AND NOT FALSE?


SEE AM NOT HERE TO TRADE WORDS WITH YOU. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE THREAD

YOU CAN LEAVE....

Corrections:
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THE TRASH INVESTIGATION
NONSENSE YOU POSTED?

I know you are aguntan (lamb) and your pastors are oluso. No wonder you can't think. Your thread is fake. You opened a thread with unverified and false information.

Corrections:
WHY SHOULD I READ PHOTOSHOPED COMPUTER EDITED WRITE UPS?

THE POINT IS MADE ....YOU MAYHAVE TO PROOF TO C.A.N AND ALL CHRISTIANS IN NIGERIA IN THE COURT OF LAW WHEN YOU GET ARRESTED THAT THE TESTIMONY IS FALSE AND C.A.N ORCHESTRATED IT LIKE YOU CLAIMED HERE ON NAIRALAND. IF NOT C.A.N MAY END UP SENDING YOU TO JAIL.

DON'T QUOTE ME AGAIN!!!

This is Live Update of further investigation on Jamiu Yusuf, a fake ex-muslim

https://www.facebook.com/www.risalatulhaqdawah.org/videos/511962579486539/

Am not interested in other trash you posted. You refused to read the link i sent you which means you are not confidence of yourself.

Corrections:
AND YOU THINK YOU CAN'T BE TRACED AND SUED AS WELL FOR CALLING C.A.N AND CHRISTIANS A SCAM? YOU THINK YOU CAN'T BE TRACED AND JAIL AS WELL FOR GIVING FALSE TESTIMONY AND INFORMATION AGAINST C.A.N. AND CHRISTIANS?

SEE AM NOT HERE TO ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT YOUR THREATS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HOLD WATER. YOU CLAIMED THE TESTIMONY IS FALSE WHY DON'T YOU CHANNEL YOUR CLAIMS TO YOUTUBE AUTHORITY TO BRING DOWN THE VIDEO?

YOU MAY HAVE TO PROOF TO C.A.N IN THE COURT OF LAW WHEN YOU YOURSELF GET ARRESTED THAT THE TESTIMONY IS FALSE AND C.A.N ORCHESTRATED IT LIKE YOU CLAIMED HERE.

There is no need to argue with you further. But I only want one thing from you. Please do not reply me until you read everything in this thread below including links and screenshots with and then return here and tell us what you think.

This is the thread. Enjoy
https://www.nairaland.com/5737607/christian-association-nigeria-violation-religious

Riduane:
Most of our people here still don't believe the thing is real. Some are saying it's only affecting the rich an can't get to the poor. They'll not heed to government directives.. Yesterday the chief imam declared that we comply with the government directives on not to observe Jumat where we are over 30, but our people defy and went ahead to pray in an overstuffed mosque. I'm afraid our uneducated population will make it escalate in Nigeria beyond repair.

Government are not helping matters too. No palliatives for people staying off work. People are lamenting and ignoring everything. I'm sure Italy started this way.. Same as US. Allah have mercy on us.

It is very important to heed instructions right now. I am not saying not to go out at all unless there are law enforcement outside enforcing lockdown. If anyone must go outside at all it should never crowd Stay away from crowd right now. Trump thought it was a joke and now he is overwhelmed and paying the price. Even after lockdown was enforced teenagers didnt take it serious and the case was only less than 100 then. These kids kept hanging out together and playing basketball. In Florida people go to the beach after lockdown. All that time it was fewer cases and now in thousands. Sun is still helping you now but guys need to understand sun goes down at night and the virus may survive before next day

LadunaI:
This is very informative. Pls abeg stay safe from this pandemic especially you at the front line and also the report coming from NY from all the major news scare someone o. I even heard about overwhelmed incident in one of the hospitals in Queens, and I was like Ehh what about our people there....

yes, that's Elmurst hospital in Queens. It is unfortunate Queens was 2nd to the least case but now leading. Very sad.

Although I'm off since Thursday and back to work tomorrow. Ambulances are everywhere picking up sick people. Too much emergency calls overwhelmed authority.

They will no longer accept 911 calls for non-emergency cases like break-ins, domestic violence etc. Emergency calls right now are mostly COVID-19 related or active gunshot.

Nigeria needs to keep it up and folks need to comply with the new regulations to keep cases down. It starts small and later explodes but I hope it is contained under 100.

It happened before in the history of Islam during regime of S. Umar (ra). Solution proferred was STAY HOME AND STAY SAFE. Sahaba ran for cover under rocks and mountains, inside their homes etc and the city was quiet.

If virus doesn't see anyone outside it goes away. That was the instruction of Muadh b. Jabal who later fell prey to the plague and died.

Allah's Aide is sought right now

Corrections:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CORRECTION CONCERNING MIXING UP USING THE WRONG PIX FOR THE BACKGROUND AUDIO YOU JUST LISTENED TO . I HOWEVER FIRMLY DISAGREE WITH YOU WHEN YOU SAID

* HE WAS TRACED TO HIS MOSQUE AND LOCAL PLACE AND THE PEOPLE SAID THEY DON'T KNOW HIM....................... OF COURSE IN SITUATION LIKE THIS YOU DON'T EXPECT THE LOCALS THAT HE HAD BEEN THEIR IMAM FOR YEARS TO EVER TESTIFY KNOWING HIM EVEN HIS PARENT MAY DENY HIS TESTIMONIES. ITS A KNOWN FACT THAT QURAN ADMONISHES DEALTH TO ANYONE WHO CONVERTS TO CHRISTIANITY

I think it is high time Muslims start taking you guys serious and start filing lawsuit against you people. You Christians are causes of chaos in the country. You were wrong for putting wrong picture and wrong caption. You know you can get in trouble for this?. I hope you realize internet regulations is ongoing in the country where you can't just post anything you want. You already admitted your wrong but you came up with another false information. I will call CEO of this site for you soon.

Show me Qur'an verse that says someone should be killed for converting to christianity?

* NO BODY BEARS THE NAME " MUHAMMADU J I BELLO "...................I WONDER HOW YOU ARRIVED AT THIS CONCLUSION? IS IT BY GOOGLE SEARCH OR DICTIONARY?. DOES GOOGLE HAVE ALL THE DATA BASE FOR STREETS IN NIGERIA LET ALONE NAMES IN NIGERIA?

guy, it seems you think this is a joke. You can be sued now. They will trace and find you for posting false information online. The name doesn't exist. The audio is a scam by Christians in Nigeria. Investigation was conducted and you still posting this nonesense around. He was even traced to Oshodi he claimed to be imam as well. There is no correlation btw his false statements and the locals. Go on YouTube and watch the investigation by typing Ustaz Jamiu Adegunwa. Investigation is still going on underground. By the time he's arrested you will go to jail with him.

* SAYING HIS A CHRISTIAN SENT BY CAN TO GIVE THE TESTIMONY?.......................... HABA HOW WOULD A CHRISTIAN LEARN QURAN FOR CLOSE TO 20YEARS JUST TO GIVE A SIMPLE TESTIMONY. YOU THINK ANY CHRISTIAN HAS THAT MUCH TIME TO WASTE?

this is your opinion. First of all the guy in audio is scam artist. Yes, they do infiltrate MUSLIMS and study Islam and Arabic. For instance, "Jamiu Yusuf" (fake name) spent 9 years at Murkaz Agege to study Qur'an and Arabic. His cover was blown after he started preaching CHRISTIANITY. He was sent by CAN. He was arrested and sued in court. The case took 9 months before he later disappeared.

* SAYING HIS TESTIMONY IS A LIE........................................IS IT THAT THE AUDIO TESTIMONY DOES NOT EXIST? OR YOU WERE THERE IN PERSON WHEN HE WITNESSED JESUS?

in a real case, he aught to give exact address of places he mentioned and show his face like other fake "imams" so we can investigate his ass. So far all the places he mentioned are not recognized by the people and current Imams there. And you need to stop using tactic that he would be killed by Muslims if he revealed his face. That's a lie

THANKS ONCE AGAIN FOR THE CORRECTION ON THE PICS MIX UP.

Don't thank me for anything. You guys are known liars. You better be careful before you get sued. You don't know who's reading this thread and you don't know what they are capable of doing for putting up wrong picture. This picture shows the whole story is a lie. If that Imam takes up the case against you all the way from Saudi Arabia, federal government will reach out to CEO of this platform and you will be traced and face the consequences..

See christians lies again. So many crap stories like this have been debunked. This guy speaking in this audio was investigated after his audio clip surfaced about 2yrs ago. He was traced to alleged mosques he talked about but the locals don't know who he is. He's Christian who infiltrated Muslims and learn Arabic and Islam. That's what they are sent to do. It is usually done by CAN -Christian Association Of Nigeria. They are the same one who set up BH.

Another recent one was a guy who claimed to be Imam in Kano and was transferred from one mosque to another across Nigeria. Chai, christians, you can lie for Paul. Another one was "Jamiu Yusuf". He's a Christian who was sent by RCCG to learn Islam and Arabic for sole purpose of using it against Muslims. But his name was not Jamiu Yusuf. This is fake name he presented at Morkaz Agege where he stidied. He was investigated and sued to court but he ran off

This thread is a lie and mlvisguy212 believes in this shit, for real bro?.

The picture of muslim man attached to op is a retired Imam of Mecca (Saudi Arabia) but this article is talking about Nigerian Imam with false name and wrong picture. You guys lie for Paul so much. Below is a fake Imam exposed recently. It is so shameful that christians have to lie to deceive gullible.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-73fX7oRWug


Imam's picture you posted above is the same one here below. His name is Adil Al-Kalbani but you guys put a false caption. You said his name is Muhammad J A Bello. There is no one by this name. It is fake name invented by christians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYlhUGsxOk

sagenaija:
Em,iree, a history of Islam for your weekend delight:
https://yo,utu.be/VAmil30UEPo

Too late for this, bro. Nothing wrong with islam and nothing will ever touch it. Yes, there were some historic muslim leaders or people who might have done questionable things but all that had nothing to do with islam. Quran is here to stay. Stop wasting your time. By the way, CP is not enough for you anymore?. This is probably 3rd time I am watching this white dude. Bro, pick up Quran and digest it. Quran is medicine. Quran is healing for the disease in your heart.

I am using the opportunity to reply to this and your other post simultaneously. It is unfortunate that you retorted to "sequence of Quran" after you realized you can not find relevant argument to support your position. You said if Quran claims to be clear why is there a need to have 3 interpretations for a verse if indeed Quran has explained all things?. Well, you lack understanding. Having multiple interpretations of a verse is not a question of whether Quran is clear or not. Rather, it gives possible meanings of the ayah relating to certain event or incident.

For instance Sura Kawsar, that chapter 108 of Quran and the shortest chapter. In verse 2 of the sura it reads:


So pray to your Lord and sacrifice [to Him alone].


The ayah is self explanatory whatever it means to you and me. From basic understanding of the verse, it is not talking about mandatory 5 daily prayers. It is talking about extra prayers a muslim offers between him and his Lord. After you finish, whether 3 days, 7 days, 21 days prayer etc, you then give sadaqa (alm giving to the poor). This is how many understood it till now. Some may have difference of opinion. But what is clear is the ayah say "pray and sacrifice" to Allah alone. That is all that is needed.

Now, in modern context in this age of COVID-19, I can also interpret the same verse in different way and it is still gonna give us same meaning of the ayah. You know why?. Because Quran was revealed to address the past فعل ماضي Fi'il madhi, presentفعل مضارع Fi'il Mudhori and the future. And also And فعل أمر fi'il Amr(Imperative). The first interpretation above is فعل مضارع i;e Fi'il Mudhori which means "present continuous tense". That's muslims will continue to Pray and Sacrifice until we die. But second interpretation about COVID-19 in relation to the same ayah means another type of sacrifice. I hope you are learning?. So COVID-19 is both Fi'il Mudhori and fi'il Amr.

In order for you to understand this, let me first take you to hadith of prophet Muhammad(SAW). There are hadiths from the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) that forbid the Muslim to enter a land in which the plague is occurring, and also forbid him to leave a land in which the plague is occurring.


Al-Bukhaari (5739) and Muslim (2219) narrated from ‘Abd ar-Rahmaan ibn ‘Awf (may Allah be pleased with him) that he said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) say: “If you hear that it (the plague) is in a land, do not go there, and if it breaks out in a land where you are, do not leave, fleeing from it.”

Did you see wisdom in this hadith yet?. I will come back to that in a minute. What I want to derive from this hadith is that if a muslim lives in a land where epidemic breaks out you should not leave the land and according to another hadith, a muslim who dies in a land where plague is occuring dies a death of shahid (martyr).


Jabir ibn ‘Atik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “There are seven martyrs besides one who is killed in the way of Allah: the victim of plague is a martyr, the one who drowns is a martyr, the one who dies of chest pain is a martyr, the one who dies of stomach infection is a martyr, the one who burns to death is a martyr, the one who is crushed under something is a martyr, and the pregnant woman who dies giving labor is a martyr.”

Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 3111

So correlation between this hadith and Chapter 108 verse 2 is that, a muslim who lives in a land where disease breaks out prays to God for mercy, relief and to subdue the plague. But if he dies in the process, his death is sacrifice which makes him a martyr. Do you understand now?. So the ayah in itself is clear but it is also subjective to different interpretations. So coronavirus is present tense and it will eventually go away by Allah's permission but the meaning of the ayah itself, which is "pray and sacrifice" will continue to have functional role to play in the lives of muslims. Therefore, Quran is plain and clear and explains all things contrary to what you opined. This is why three(3) interpretations i gave you earlier are within the explanation of Quran.

Now back to the hadith, what did you learn about the hadith that is talking about plague?. It teaches us that when coronavirus breaks out, all nigerian politicians should have stayed in their respective countries in western world and deal with the pandemic. But they foolishly imported the disease to Nigeria which was the reason borders were left open. And now many more people have been infected due to their greed.

I hope you learned one or two things?.

sagenaija:
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I did not see RUHANA in any of the verses.

And you assumed you know better?. You are arguing with me blindly on my religion but you can read the Quran in arabic . Obviously, i see no reason to argue with you anymore on this. But for record, let post the arabic and highlight what you didnt see


فَاتَّخَذَتْ مِن دُونِهِمْ حِجَابًا فَأَرْسَلْنَا إِلَيْهَا رُوحَنَا فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا بَشَرًا سَوِيًّا


What is RUHANA?.

All I'm asking is why did one verse use singular "angel" and the other plural "angels". Is that so difficult to do? Can you just leave ridicule and simply answer the question or admit that you don't know. Claiming to have pointed out something or to have answered is another tactic to run away from answering. Bringing up words in Arabic or other languages is an attempt to simply blur the true picture.

Okay, this below should answer you

1. There is NO indication that these verses refer to the same event.

If we examine the Qur'anic verses we can come up with an interpretation of the chronological order of events.


a. The angels announced to Mary pbuh the glad tidings of Jesus pbuh without giving any further details. (verse 3:45)

b. After the angels depart, Mary pbuh expresses her surprise in her prayer to God. (verse 3:47). The verse makes it clear that she is no longer talking to the angels because she says, "My Lord.."

c. An angel sent by God informs her that God is able to do all things (verse 3:47, "So (it will be) for Allâh creates what He wills."

d. After a period of time, Angel Gabriel is sent by God, and appears personally before Mary to inform her of the birth of Jesus pbuh (verse 19:19).

e. Here she asks the Angel directly (verse 19:20) how it is possible for her to have a child. And the Angel Gabriel replies as seen in verse 19:21.

The basis of this explanation is the usage of the words yubashiroke in Sura Al-Imran which means to give glad tidings of a coming event. On the other hand, the verse in Sura Maryam uses the wordsle ahaba lake which means to "present you with", implying that the event is to happen there.

An objection raised to this explanation is that Mary must be forgetful if she asks the same question having already recieved the answer. This is not necessarily the case. An event so surprising and unusual as this would easily explain her persistence in trying to understand how this is possible. Often people may be so bewildered by some news that they may repeat their inquiry in their surpirse, and that is not unusual.


2. Another simple and logical explanation that can be offered is that the it is not uncommon for the action of a single member of an organization to be attributed to the whole organization. In a hockey match, we may say that so-and-so scored the final goal, or we could say that such-and-such a team scored the final goal. It would not be a contradiction. So when Angel Gabriel appeared to Mary and he gave her the glad tidings of a son, the action may be attributed to the angels, whether they were present or not, visible or not. This interpretation is supported by verse 3:47, which says that Mary asked how it could be possible and he (Angel Gabriel) replied, and not they (angels).

3. Another way to understand the verses is to examine a similar verse of the Qur'an:


41:30. In the case of those who say, "Our Lord is Allah., and, further, stand straight and steadfast, the angels descend on them (from time to time): "Fear ye not!" (they suggest), "Nor grieve! but receive the Glad Tidings of the Garden (of Bliss), the which ye were promised!

Here we are told that those who stand firm in Islam will have angels surrounding them and telling them not to fear. Obviously, this does not mean that the righteous people expect to hear these voices speaking to them, but rather it is the general feeling of peace and good inspired into the righteous person by these angels. The presence and words of the angels invoke a feeling of security.

Likewise, when we read the first passage about Mary, the angels speaking to her may just have been a general inspiration or notion that she would bear a child, and she continually wondered to Allah, as to how this was possible. And the answer given in 3:47 is Allah's answer inspired to her through the angels in the same fashion. Naturally, when the event was to occur and the Angel Gabriel physically appeared to her in the form of a man, she would voice this same concern to verify the inspiration she had been receiving.


Each of these three explanations is sufficient to a answer the allegation.

Riduane:
Wow, that's scary. How have you been coping? I was really concerned. I sent you a mail earlier on.

oh I will check now. I didn't receive alert. I'm trying. I must go to work as health worker. We have no choice. Shout Out To The Health Workers In This Difficult Time

I was actually comparing the weather of Nigeria with that of countries where the thing is most hit, turns out our weather is really hot compared to these countries, then I'm a bit relieved we are a bit safe albeit adhering to the precautions.

New York City morgues are almost consumed by dead bodies.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/25/dhs-briefing-nyc-morgues-near-capacity-148259

nero2face:
we'll get through this, and then we'll appreciate life more and bliv more in God...

the moment God relieves us from virus you see arrogant countries start bombing others again. Watch. They don't hear word

Riduane:
How about the prospect of it not surviving under heat compared to cold weather? .

looks like heat works in your favor. You don't have high cases compared to us. Ours is quite high. If you guys understand and live up to Islamic standards of purification you could really ward it off.

But unfortunately iya alata, baba eleran and bunch of iya oloja don't wash their hands.

So your cases are low may be due to heat. Your seen how long it took before your cases reached 46 (i think). I don't wanna believe audios that went viral claiming cases might be higher than official disclosure. Again, the reason is I follow cases here and I see how they multiply in seconds because the virus loves cool places.. But looks like it slows down lately here bcuz folks begin to realize importance of social distancing.

In my area just last Thursday was 900 infected people. As at today which is less than a week it is about 5000 cases. See the jump


However, you did not have the virus locally. It was govt that brought in the virus. Why did they keep the damn borders open despite warnings from afar?. They delibrately kept borders open so that their people could come in from overseas. You could see Atiku's son brought the virus and other officials.

But God is so good. Had the virus started in Nigeria your politicians would have escaped to the Western world for treatment while they abandoned you guys. Now this is time of reflection for them to do the right thing by building ultra-modern hospitals across the country. They have no choice now but to use what they have bcuz Western countries are overwhelmed by cases of coronavirus.

Riduane:
For real?

Spain just overtook China in the number of death toll.

Me dey joke ni o. But I'm against face mask. That's useless because virus is not airborne. So what's the point of wearing masks?. It is only airborne 6 to 10ft from sneezing person and becomes droplet afterward.

Matter of fact masks could make it worse. Hands are the most essentials. However, if you must be around sick person then mask is necessary. But wearing mask on the streets, cars, trains is unnecessary.


You seen picture of Buhari and the other fellow shaking hands but wore mask. That's rather silly. They would use the same hands to remove masks which means they transfer the virus from hands to face.

Our hands carry lots of bacteria but they are not harmful for as long as we don't touch our face, mouth nose etc.

That's why it is highly recommended to wash hands often.

Folks need to relax and chill.

Kokoronavirus is nothing to worry about. It is not bacterial disease but viral disease.

Nigeria would not be worried by now if only govt had done the right thing by closing the borders.

Anyways, the reason I'm posting this is to let y'all know that original coronavirus actually hit China and Italy.

Kokoronavirus that spread out of these two regions are chinko versions. They are just crumbs. If you have no underlining ailments you are not vulnerable.

Govts around the world delibrately created fear . They wanted to sell cleaning products because try had so much inventories and the space are full.

See how they used marketing strategy to get people to empty shelves

You can hardly find cleaning products in the market now.

Other reason is world govt realized many households are dirty so they make you clean your houses. They instilled fear of coronavirus in you to believe everything you touch is contaminated therefore you must clean a surface before and after you touched it.

Another reason is they want clean air. So you can see I breath clean air since the outbreak. No pollution

Again, I'm telling you that the real coronavirus actually hit China and Italy. Anywhere else only experience vapor of coronavirus. In another word, the rest of the world have chinko version of coronavirus.

Take chill pill. Relax and watch your hands always. Don't be wearing masks everywhere to scare people. This is violation of health code.

No no bro. I support pastor's position. There must be local productions. This whole idea of importing equipments especially medical needs rethink.

Witcher:
the moniker above is US and Europe dumping ground too because he send it there. Let's us desist from this Nigeria frame of mind. This Jack ma also donated this same masks and kits to USA none of American nagging on it whether it was infected or not. We have to be extraordinary careful... Cos the virus came from China, In short we just have to think about it before we can accept those kits. I still don't know why you people are thinking like this.. Are we the only country that were given this masks and kits?

sagenaija:
[quote author=Empiree post=87727617] doesn't matter what you say. I'm just trying to figure out your confusion. There verses are clear even outside their contexts but you want to create coffin for yourself.

Anyways I'm only answer the last part. There is only one angel Jubril. What is mentioned in 19:17 is ruhana. Which means Angel in this context. I sued your question earlier what is difference between Angel and Spirit according to you but your didn't answer.

Anyways, generally, any supernatural beings is considered "spirit" to us. Jinns, Angels are spirit.. Even coronavirus and other cities 3 are spirit to some people. Even according to the Bible God is spirit (John 4:24) but that doesn't mean it was God that appeared to Mary if that's where your are going because the verse is clear that ruhana was agent sent to Mary when she was in isolation. 19:17 We sent to her Our Angel.

It is the same Angel/ruh that's sent to our mothers womb. So to answer your question it was one Angel sent to Mary.

The last screenshot is from Christian theology. You can see Angel is spirit according to them.
Why did chapter 3 says "angels" - i. e. Plural which means more than one angel while the other chapter said singular?

How do you "in context" determine which word is for 'angel' and which one is for 'spirit'?

Did you read to understand my post or you simply followed your whims?. I explained to you but you still asked same question. Okay, let's do it this way. What is RUHANA in that verse?.

LadunaI:
Yeah that's right. No where for them to run to for medical treatment. I pray this doesn't get out hands in naija o. The news coming in now and from other countries is scary.

Hope everything is OK with you and family there? I pray for God protection for you and everyone o.

Ameena...shout Out to healthcare workers. We must go to work unlike others.

Ameena to your Dua.

NIGERIAN politicians actually infected Nigerians

This should be a wakeup call for Nigerian politicians to fix the system. If they are able to survive this it teaches them good lessons if only they can reflect. Now they can not travel to Germany, India, Italy, UK, US, Spain for treatment. They are now forced to use the same system for bleeped up

sagenaija:
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Everyone reading us can immediately see that you are the one doing what you are accusing me of - you've made up your mind. So, you don't even focus. You don't look at the other person's point but just comment.

You are even quoting the wrong chapter - a further proof of your stance of not focusing on the issues. Are you afraid of something? I know you're very superstitious.

Now to our main issue:
You have moved from one is a "good news" and the other a "process of events" now to "Both verses gave good news, period."

You're trying to get away from my questions aren't you?

Is that all you can do Empiree? Smh!

Chapter 3:45
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL[And mention] when the angels said, "O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allah ].

Chapter 19:17
And she took, in seclusion from them, a screen. Then We sent to her Our Angel, and he represented himself to her as a well-proportioned man.

clearquran.com :-
She screened herself away from them, and We sent to her Our spirit, and He appeared to her as an immaculate human.


Chapter 3 says "angels said" (Notice the plural - ANGELS.
Chapter 19 says "Our angel" or "Our spirit" (Notice the singular usage - ANGEL; SPIRIT).

So, again:
Who exactly was sent to Mary; was it Spirit or angels?

If it was angels, how many angels were sent to Mary; was it an angel or a number of angels?

doesn't matter what you say. I'm just trying to figure out your confusion. There verses are clear even outside their contexts but you want to create coffin for yourself.

Anyways I'm only answer the last part. There is only one angel Jubril. What is mentioned in 19:17 is ruhana. Which means Angel in this context. I sued your question earlier what is difference between Angel and Spirit according to you but your didn't answer.

Anyways, generally, any supernatural beings is considered "spirit" to us. Jinns, Angels are spirit.. Even coronavirus and other cities 3 are spirit to some people. Even according to the Bible God is spirit (John 4:24) but that doesn't mean it was God that appeared to Mary if that's where your are going because the verse is clear that ruhana was agent sent to Mary when she was in isolation. 19:17 We sent to her Our Angel.

It is the same Angel/ruh that's sent to our mothers womb. So to answer your question it was one Angel sent to Mary.

The last screenshot is from Christian theology. You can see Angel is spirit according to them.

sarrki:
Coronavirus has reset the brain of muric

CAN of worms the bouyshop listen to follow


Wait ooo boko haram and all this kidnappings, Fulani herdsmen don disappeared oooo

goes to show you sponsor are from foreign countries. They can't get funds across due to the virus

sagenaija:
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Looks like CP has been giving you sleepless nights!

Remember, you said we should leave out stories and stick to the Koran. And the Koran is supposed to make things clear; isn't it?

So, please help me out here: How is one a "good news" and the other a "process of events"?

Secondly, where in the Koran did it say that the Spirit is angel Gabriel?

your problem is once you made up your mind there is nothing anyone can do.

3:45 and 9:17 gave mary good news of a baby boy in advance. 9:17 provided details if you read subsequent verses. It is not difficult, bro. You will continue to see things the way you want it and I can't help your with that.

Both verses gave good news, period.

Righteousness89:
Just Ignore them...
Covid -19 has no Respect for Position or Office..

no... They should not be ignored since this is health Hazzard. They should be arrested and locked up in isolation by force
They need to obey the law