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obiekunie2:
Your question sir is so dumb and stVpid.

this young man asked questions based on what he read from the Quran and all you could come up with is asking him first if he is a christian or a muslim.

fact is, you dont have the answers he seek - or rather let me put it this way - you know the answers he seek but your penchant to lie in other to defend your religion is already showing.

FACT IS, ISLAM BORROWED FROM THE BIBLE, THE BUDDHA AND THE TALMUD TO WRITE YOUR QURAN. THE QURAN IS SO MIXED UP WITH TALES BY MOON..... THAT NONE OF YOU CAN CLARIFY IT - HENCE THE RESORT TO IMMENSE VIOLENCE TO SCARE PEOPLE FROM ASKING QUESTIONS BUT ONE THING I KNOW FOR A FACT - LIES DON'T STAND THE TEST OF TIME. THAT RELIGION WILL SURELY IMPLODE IN FUTURE WHEN MEN ARE MORE SMARTER, BOLDER AND STRONGER WITH LITTLE OR NO FEAR - THEN, THAT WHICH CANNOT STAND THE FUTURE SCRUTINY WILL FALL.

ISLAM: QURAN - BORROWED FROM THE BIBLE, THE TALMUD AND THE SANSKRIT

ISLAMIC PRAYER: BORROWED FROM THE BUDDHISM PRAYERS AND PRAYER BEADS

ISLAMIC MOON FASTING: BORROWED FROM THE ANCIENT ARAB PAGAN RELIGION DESTROYED BY MOHAMMED

ISLAMIC KAABA: THE KAABA WAS FORMERLY THE TEMPLE OF AN ARAB GOD WHERE PILGRIMS COME FROM VARIOUS PART OF THE WORLD TO MAKE BLOOD SACRIFICE. AFTER MOHAMMED DEFEATED THE TOWN OF HEJAZI IN THE CITY MECCA, HE CONVERTED THE TEMPLE TO ISLAM HOLY SITE!


WE KNOW ABOUT ISLAM BUT WE JUST CHOSE TO LET ME WALLOW IN THEIR DELUS....





DON'T EXPECT TO GET HONEST ANSWER FROM THAT JIHADIST!

Informer155:
Those are the two important questions I asked sirs.two guys gave me answers......and disappeared when I replied them. Hope you guys won't disappear too

Emp.iree:
are you muslim or Christian?

Informer155:
Q1


**The stories I read in Quran about Noah,John,Zacharias, Mary,Jesus etc is so unreal,funny and dramatic compared to the BIble.world believed that Bible existed more than 600 years before Quran.so which story should I believe in? Example:
Allah SWT said:

قَالَ رَبِّ اجْعَل لِّىٓ ءَايَةً  ۚ قَالَ ءَايَتُكَ أَلَّا تُكَلِّمَ النَّاسَ ثَلٰثَ لَيَالٍ سَوِيًّا
"[Zechariah] said, My Lord, make for me a sign. He said, Your sign is that you will not speak to the people for three nights, [being] sound."
Maryam 19: 10

"And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season." Luke1:20

which one is true between the two? and so many other stories

Informer155:
OK let me bring it here one by one

Informer155:
Go to:
Religion-Islam Muslim group-my confused question about Islam.... That's all

Informer155:
Ok sir....just search "my confused question about Islam" you'll see the quetions and conversation there....i cant quote you there if not i will do it....pls just search it sir(am not fighting nor arguing)quote author=Empiree post=80980829]We are not here to read questions in form of epistles. You either ask your question (s) plain and clear so we understand where your going or where you are coming from.

So far, you lumped everything together. When you get out of your confusion holla at me again.

"revolution" my foot.

Obasanjo being one of the instigators shows that this silly protest is lopsided. Abeg, tell us exactly what obj did in his 8yrs tenure?.

As for Sowore, the guy owns business in new york. It is very possible he is a funded tout. We have experienced western ppl funded citizens of foreign countries int heir country to destabilize their home countries. I am not saying the same is happening with Sowore but it is very highly possible. If there is level of sincerity in this si called revolution, they should start locally. But this way they are doing it by taking their vex to macro level is bound to fail.

Fed govt always fun state and local govts. Therefore, the first revolution must start with traditional rulers. Those Obas are nothing but fat ass embezzlers. What exactly are they doing in their palaces?. What exactly is their responsibilities to the people of their communities?. The local region are so bad and structurally and also cult infested. Take a look at Ijebu-Ode, this historic town is far worst than 20yrs ago yet they have traditional ruler sitting on his ass doing nothing. They have local govt chairmen just looting but they keep lying that federal govt gave them little to nothing. And then they have state govt who did substandard road that messed up within a week. Yet they are blaming Buhari.

Revolution must start from locally. Taking your anger and frustrations to federal govt is very silly. Even if they succeed and achieve thier aim, federal govt isnt gonna deal with them directly, They deal with traditional rulers, local and sate govt. And these aforementioned will mess up over again and you keep blaming federal govt. Start your protest from the scratch by probing obas, local govt authority and state authority. This is the way to go about it in my humble opinion.

true2god:
This shows Islam is all about mohammed. If mohammed condemn a thing today, as bad, muslims will condemn it too, then if he turns around and justify the same practice tomorrow, Muslims will adjust. You are making Mohammed to be equal to Allah.

You are giving justification for evil. Under no circumstance is grave worship (or ancestral worship) justified. Remember in sahih Muslim, Mohammed used to pray in the cemetery. What makes Islam different form African paganism? The catholics also do it and call it 'the veneration of the saints'.

Islam borrowed a lot from existing cultures and practices, grave visitation inclusive. There is nothing wrong visiting the grave of a loved ones who had passed away but it is wrong to visit such site for a religious purpose and many Muslims visit the grave (shrine) of Mohammed as part of the hajj rituals.

Can you provide any prove or citation that the Jews and the Christians were making tawaf around the Kaaba before the advent of Islam? It is NEVER on record that the Jews and Christians held kaaba of any religious significance, either during the pre-Islamic or current islamic era. History has it that the kaaba is a home to about 360 idols (allah inclusive) before Mohammed turned mecca and Medina into a mono-cultural society. Always tell the truth even when it is not convenient.

true2god:
Educate us what the hadith is talking about. It is not just saying 'I have no problem with the Hadith bcuz I understand' but telling us you own understanding of the context of the hadith. You have already said it all, the herbalist saw no difference between his experience in mecca and what he does traditionally at home.

LadunaI:
@bolded I think that's main issue here. May Allah continue to GUIDE us Amin.

wowcatty:
Your problem is bigger that what's on social media, go and seek for help!
What has this got to do with my stance on this issue,? You are crazy!

true2god:
The herbalist was right; Islam and paganism are one and the same. The only difference is that the latter is well packaged with books, set of rules and theology while the latter is crude and traditional. The early Muslims supported the opinion of the herbalist, see hadith below:

Narrated Aswad: Ibn Az-Zubair said to me, "Aisha used to tell you secretly a number of things. What did she tell you about the Ka'ba?" I replied, "She told me that once the Prophet said, 'O 'Aisha! Had not your people been still close to the pre-Islamic period of ignorance (infidelity)! I would have dismantled the Ka'ba and would have made two doors in it; one for entrance and the other for exit." Later on Ibn Az-Zubair did the same.
(Sahih Bukhari 1:3:128)

Worship at the Ka’aba and the kissing of the Black Stone are just the first of many practices adopted from 7th century paganism and repackaged within monotheistic Islam.

wowcatty:
How am I partisan? This is the problem with you liberals again, you hate the truth and I don't bend for no one. I'm parrisa.The two parties can't come together unless Democrats move back to the middle, which I don't believe they will, Democrats is now a socialist/communst party. Republicans have already proposed a sensible plan but the dems can't meet them in the middle, it's now the winner takes all.

wowcatty:
What you guys don't get is that NRA will go to war to protect its guns and I support them. Law abiding America citizens can't surrender their guns while all the criminals have access to guns through the black market and across the border. All the coyotes carry ak47 like keys. All Democrats controlled towns with strong gun laws are the ones having the highest gun crimes, so ask yourself why! From Baltimore to Chicago to Detroit, what they have in common is Democrat mayors and congressional districts.

Koolking:
Yet some lost brain people call Nigeria a shithole while USA is peehole with sane people.

Just imagine, 22 people gunned down unprovoked. Last year, a man from his hotel room gunned down over 50 in a concert gathering for no reasons whatsoever.

Nigerians lack love for their country. Every country has her problems but patriotic citizens make her stand tall.

JeromeBlack:
Smh for your Arab countries. Had they acted when isreal started their occupation, we would not have this nonsense today.

true2god:
He is saying nothing but the truth. Arab-muslims, using the quran and the hadith, invaded and destroyed Africa long before the imperial europeans came to africa.

shogsman:
Why does the interior looks unfinished.

otuekong1:
Qoran keeps conflicting itself

Amujale:
Under what circumstance is it permitable for a bunch of unethical warmongers to be claiming to know anything about virtousness.

Instead of the Arabians to concentrate on apologising to Africans for all the looting, stealing, so-called 'holy war', that are infact part of the evil Arabian crusades of their recent past; they're there peddling falsity and fakery.

Alhajiemeritus:
Salam alaykum my brothers and sitsters....
I want to clarify something...
Iyepe tite and IFA(ejiogbe) are the same thing...
They are both based on calculations.....
Which is kind of related to astrology, cos it's also based on alignment of stars...
All these are definitively forbidden in Islam....

Goldenheart:
Give him another snake, let him demonstrate

Bar1941:
Can't you guys use the charm to deal with the corrupt politicians first since retrieving the looted ones will not stop them from relooting it?

true2god:
Let's keep to this issue: Why So Many Versions Of The Quran - Quranic Corrections.

sagenaija:
E.mpiree, did you finish your primary school?

codedcliq:
The time I thought I will comment on this post is when I have received my car from Amdman. However, recent happenings have necessitated this post.

Preamble:
I contacted Amdman concerning one of the cars he posted. Total amount (inclusive of clearing) he posted was N1.1m. I made a payment of N800k to him so he can purchase and ship. Days later, he told me the car owner is no longer willing to sell so he had to source for another. No wahala. He got one with total amount (inclusive of clearing) as N1.25m. My downpayment was still witihin 60-70% of the total cost so all was fine. He sent pictures and videos to me and posted same here. All good.

Weeks later, I contacted him to send me a scanned copy of the original bill of lading. Please note scanned copy as I wasn't expecting him to courier the original to me since I am not the one clearing. First he said it wasn't ready, then later he said he will send a part of the original. After a couple of weeks, he send he can only send the Draft Bill of Lading. When I asked why he can't just scan the original Bill of Lading with his phone and send to me, below was his response verbatim

"The amount of bad press that will be generated against us if anything goes wrong with anyone’s car is not something we are willing to risk"

How sending a scanned copy of transport document will make anything go wrong with someone's car is what I am still trying to undestand. I have been working with shipping documents for almost 10years now so there is no risk he wants to claim that I don't know of. You can only clear your car at the Seaport if you have the original Bill of Lading and evidence to show you are the one it was consigned to. Any clearing agent here is free to counter this.

Two reasons I requested for the scanned Bill of Lading
1. To apply for car financing - since I am pre-ordering the car, it is one of the required documents
2. To be able to indepently verify that actual shipment took place using the International Maritime Bureau portal


He eventually sent the draft bill of lading which didn't qualify for the intended purpose. Still I moved on.

Later, he sent the tracking details of the vessel / shipment to me. As at this moment, tracking details he sent is still showing that Vessel will likely arrive today, not that it has arrived.
He chatted me up days ago that the ship has berthed and I should pay the balance of 450k. No wahala. I told him to send the contact of the clearing agent so I can make arrangement to have him deliver the car to my place. Let me state here that on the Invoice he sent, two conditions stood out:

1. Pick up at Lagos port
2. 2nd payment due after confirmation of vehicle purchase

The Pick up at Lagos port is not something I am comfortable with. This was not communicated until I made the advance payment. His post here after he decided to be handling the clearing cost was - "buying, shipping and clearing" - not that the buyer will still have to go the port to pick up the car.

Still I was ready to proceed but I told him I will rather the Agent delivers the car to my place so he should send his number let me liaise with him. Next thing he told me is quoted verbatim below:

"Depending on your location, that can range from 20k to 50k"

So I have to tell him facts and any clearing agent here is free to counter. If I pay a clearing agent to clear my car in Lagos ports, I expect him to deliver the car to my place (they already calculate these costs in the fees they charge). If I am outside Lagos, he is free to negotiate additional cost with me for delivery. Why will I have to go to the port to pick up a car when I am paying for clearing? I can as well just get another clearing agent to do the clearing for me then. Imagine driving a non-registered car when I am not a car dealer or clearing agent and you are stopped by the police. Nigeria police do not respect the 90days grace period. That's why we have clearing agents for this.

He started threatening me with demurrage fees. Hello, you've been the one providing all the information. I can't run an independent check because you refused to provide a scanned copy of the transport document. The draft Bill of Lading you sent shows the shipping line Hapag-Lloyd gives 21 days free demurrage (which was clearly stated on the draft you yourself sent). So even if the claim by you that the vessel is in Tincan is true, it is after 21days that demurrage will start counting.

He is yet to provide the contact of the clearing agent but he wants me to pay 100%, leave my work and go to the port to wait for car to come out.

The tracking details he sent shows vessel is not yet at Tincan but he claims otherwise.

Amdman, I am willing to pay the balance right now, that is not an issue. However, I need to:
1. Independently confirm that the shipment took place and vessel has arrived. You can get your clearing agent to come here and confirm this or you provide me with a scanned copy of the original bill of lading
2. I won't leave my work to come to the port to pick up a car and I can't & won't pay "20k to 50k" for a distance of less than 15km from the port to my place.

I still believe Amdman is legit and these things are just business issues that can be resolved. I won't have brought this here if he has shown some flexibility because I even told him I may have to bring it public and he said I should go ahead. So fellow buyers, please if I am the one that is being unreasonable, kindly let me know. I am not a rigid person. Though I believe it doesn't make sense for one to pay for clearing fees and still have to go to the port to pick up an unregistered car to drive home.

Cc: deepwater

sagenaija:
You twist and turn things at will. When you think it will serve your purpose, you'll claim that Koran is the only authority. When Koran alone will not serve your purpose, you'll run to the hadith. You therefore make statements without clearly considering the implications of such statements. If Koran is the ONLY authority, then it simply means there is no recourse to ANY other "authority". ONLY means - alone; without any other.

But we ALL KNOW that Moslems DO NOT rely ONLY on the Koran. Herein lies the hypocrisy of Islam and Moslems. At the end of the day ANYTHING goes in Islam. Koran, hadith, mysticism - name it, are all found inside the cesspool of Islam.

To attempt to win an argument you can claim that the Koran was whole during the lifetime of the prophet. If the next argument wouldn't fly with that you run to ' it was written on different fragments or particles which included bones'. So, like I've said over and over again - islam speaks ALWAYS from both sides of the mouth.

A simple question to debunk you is this:
Do you not have things in the hadith that are not in the Koran which Moslems practice today?

Now on Islam reverting to being something strange, and retreating between the two Masajid:
It is narrated on the authority of Abu Haraira that the messenger of Allah said:
Islam initiated as something strange, and it would revert to its (old position) of being strange, so good tidings for the stranger.
“Islam began among a few individuals, then it spread and prevailed, then it will reduce in numbers until there are only a few left, as it was in the beginning”

In Sharh Saheeh Muslim, Al-Nawawi quoted al-Qadi’Iyad as saying concerning the meaning of this hadeeth. It says in Fatawa al-Lajnah al-Daimah, 2/170
The meaning of this hadeeth is that Islam began as something strange, when the messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) called people to Islam, but no one responded except a few here and there. At that time it was something strange because its people were like strangers amongst others and they were few in numbers and strength of their enemies who persecuted the Muslims … ….
The Islamic state was established and Islam spread … …
So the enemies of Islam found a way in and they colonized their lands, humiliated their people and treated them badly. This is the way in which Islam returned to being strange as it was in the beginning.

See these for confirmation:
http://sunnah.com/muslim/1/279
http://islamqa.info/en/45855

Now,who's the clown, Empir.ee?