₦airaland Forum

LadunaI:
Yes! is like law of nature and you cant help it. Have been wanted to post for the past 2/3 weeks now but couldn't. Just check the thread and zoom off lol.

indeed, allow nature to take its course I'm sure I have some questions to ask here. I still dey pile them cus whatever it is still ongoing

true2god:
Take time and study the 'pact of umar' as it relates to the evil instruction by Mohammed in quran 9:29. This pact is the precedence to Islamic global aggression against all kafir worldwide. It is also a fact that in canonical Islamic text, not christian text, the Jews are considered eternal enemies of the Arab-muslims.

“Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.” — Sahih Muslim 6985

This is a sahih hadith why Mohammed gave a marching order for the destruction of the Jews.

I know you will continue to ignore the fact that Jews were kicked out by their "loving" European CHRISTIANs because of their evil characteristics. The Hadith you quoted is in response to their accumulated aggressions against the muslims (Palestinians). And going by proper methodology, the Hadith in no way talking about or accusing all Jews. It is rather referring to blameworthy Jews unless you are blinded by your ego you don't see Zionist-Jews aggressions and wickedness against muslims on the Holy Land today as they did in history.

The very reasons they were given the land by God was based on 2 conditions: to have faith in God and to be righteous in conduct.Texts such as Leviticus 25:18 and 26:31-34, Amos 5:6-9 and 6:1-7 and Jeremiah 7:1-7 concur with this idea of conditionality. The same conditions are mentioned in the Qur'an. They obviously violated these two conditions.

Killing and bombing Palestinians and promoting vices are not righteous conducts. You however claimed to dislike homosexualism "1000%' yet you support the very same people who are pro-gay. The very same people who mock your 3headed gods. The very same people who don't give a damn about you.

Is it not clear your reason for hating Muslims and Islam is absolutely irrational?. So anytime Hadith speaks negatively of Jews it is only speaking about aggressive and unrighteous ones.... Not all Jews. Get your fact right. Where was the rest of the world when Jews were persecuted and kicked out by Christians in Europe? It was Muslims who saved their @ss and they are biting hands that saved them.

Who's interested in epistle?. What does this epistle has to do with the fact that jews were kicked out of Europe by CHRISTIANs for the same ugly behavior of theirs like they did in the time of the prophet in Medina?.

Now they are enjoying protection in America but they have been engaging in the same behavior like they did centuries ago. Listen, there are overwhelming Americans who dislike them for the same behavior but they hide under American law for protection.


Compared Muslims treatment of Jews with European CHRISTIANs. Muslims were far better. S for nassara and modern Christians, modern CHRISTIANs simply cloned ancient nasara. Jesus Christ don't know modern CHRISTIANs

true2god:
It is even funny that mohammed and allah did not know that Paul existed but Muslims, who are more vast than Mohammed, know of his influnence in the christian world. Nigerian Muslims seem to be more intelligent than there Arab masters who translated, in all their English quran, 'nasara' to mean 'christians'. Well see below:

009:030
“…And the ‘al-Nasara’ say, 'The Messiah is the Son of God’ That is their saying with their mouths, they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before. May God destroy them! How they are deluded!…”

Oh so the nasara are not Christians but allah asked Muslims to fight them (quran 9:29) because they blasphemed by calling the messiah 'the Son of God’. Islam is a pack of lies and confusions. Yahud is arabic word for the Jews while Nasara is the Arabic word for the Christians. Don't claim smarted than the Arabs who own the religion.
When Muslims rule Jerusalem they lived under the 'pact of umar' and were regarded as second or third class citizens. There was peace because the conqured Jews and christians lived under the pact of umar. In case your imam failed to teach you what the pact is all about, see details below (for free):

1. The ruler would provide security for the Christian believers who follow the rules of the pact.

2. Prohibition against building new churches, places of worship, monasteries, monks or a new cell. (Hence it was also forbidden to build new synagogues, although it is known that new synagogues were built after the occupation of the Islam, for example in Jerusalem and Ramle. The law that prohibits to build new synagogues was not new for the Jews, it was applied also during the Byzantines. It was new for the Christians.)

3.Prohibition against rebuilding destroyed churches, by day or night, in their own neighbourhoods or those situated in the quarters of the Muslims.

4. Prohibition against hanging a cross on the Churches.Muslims should be allowed to enter Churches (for shelter) in any time, both in day and night.Obliging the call of prayer by a bell or a kind of Gong (Nakos) to be low in volume.

5. Prohibition of Christians and Jews against raising their voices at prayer times.

6. Prohibition against teaching non-Muslim children the Qur'an. Christians were forbidden to show their religion in public, or to be seen with Christian books or symbols in public, on the roads or in the markets of the Muslims.Palm Sunday and Easter parades were banned. Funerals should be conducted quietly.

7. Prohibition against burying non-Muslim dead near Muslims.

8. Prohibition against raising a pig next to a Muslims neighbour. Christian were forbidden to sell Muslims alcoholic beverage. Christians were forbidden to provide cover or shelter for spies.

9. Prohibition against telling a lie about Muslims. Obligation to show deference toward Muslims. If a Muslim wishes to sit, non-Muslim should be rise from his seats and let the Muslim sit.

10. Prohibition against preaching to Muslims in an attempt to convert them from Islam.

11. Prohibition against preventing the conversion to Islam of some one who wants to convert.

12. The appearance of the non-Muslims has to be different from those of the Muslims: Prohibition against wearing Qalansuwa (kind of dome that was used to wear by Bedouin), Bedouin turban (Amamh), Muslims shoes, and Sash to their waists. As to their heads, it was forbidden to comb the hair sidewise as the Muslim custom, and they were forced to cut the hair in the front of the head. Also non-Muslim shall not imitate the Arab-Muslim way of speech nor shall adopt the kunyas (Arabic byname, such as "abu Khattib".
Obligation to identify non-Muslims as such by clipping the heads' forelocks and by always dressing in the same manner, wherever they go, with binding the zunar (a kind of belt) around the waists. Christians to wear blue belts or turbans, Jews to wear yellow belts or turbans, Zoroastrians to wear black belts or turbans, and Samaritans to wear red belts or turbans.

13. Prohibition against riding animals in the Muslim custom, and prohibition against riding with a saddle.

14. Prohibition against adopting a Muslim title of honour.

15. Prohibition against engraving Arabic inscriptions on signet seals.

16. Prohibition against any possession of weapons.

17. Non-Muslims must host a Muslim passerby for at least 3 days and feed him.

18. Non-Muslims prohibited from buying a Muslim prisoner.

19. Prohibition against taking slaves who have been allotted to Muslims.

20. Prohibition against non-Muslims to lead, govern or employ Muslims.If a non-Muslim beats a Muslim, his Dhimmi is removed.
The worship places of non-Muslims must be lower in elevation than the lowest mosque in town. The houses of non-Muslims must not be taller in elevation than the houses of Muslims.

castrokins:
Your Patience Is On Another Level, Guy. Kudos!!

you sensed that

true2god:
Islam violated every value the Chinese authorities stood for hence their attempt to remove Islamic indoctrination from their society. China is a country poised for economic and technological explosion but Islam retards scientific development hence can't tolerate Islam in their society. Muslims will surely violate Chinese laws and will surely pose a threat to national security ones their population reaches more than 10% hence the pro-active measure to avoid that. Mohammed was also a peaceful man in Mecca, when he was weak, but showed his true colour immediately he conquered Medina. This is a standard Islamic format for 1400 years: be peaceful and preach tolerance when you are weak and attack when your population has increased and you are strong. Your prophet said and I quote:

When the Prophet intended to go on an expedition, he would pretend to go somewhere else and he would say, “War is deception.” (Sunan Abu Dawud 2637).

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "War is deceit."(Sahih Bukhari 4:52:269)

so Muslims should be killed and their houses of worship burned down bcuz they are different?. Where is humanity in you?. Islam had always been in China for as long as it existed. How does it Chinese values when the adherents are Chinese themselves?. Islam is universal religion. The reason why world leaders are quite is bcuz of economy interested. Had it been a Muslim country treating others like that there world would go in flames already.

JeromeBlack:
So, you fear me this much?

I'll take this as a compliment

smh

JeromeBlack:


Paranoid much?


So have the motives come out now that you have answered the question? Or are you just silly?

onikun é lomoka

Are you new to me Logicboy? absolutely not so I know how cunning you are

true2god:
This is a stale Islamic argument to defend the evil of Mohammed and Islam. The Vatican is the largest chapel in Rome, Italy, and was given an autonomous status around the 1930s. The Vatican is like the redemption camp in Ogun state headed by the Pope, just as the Redemption camp is headed by Pastor Adeboye. The Vatican is a small territory like the Redemption camp but Muslims, as liars and 'confusionist', will always defend the atrocities of the Mohammed to justify Islam. The vatican, at no time in history, was ever associated with Islam but Saudi Arabia has a large Jewish, Christian and Hindu population thousands of years before Mohammed's genocide against non-Muslims.

oh yea, redemption camp indeed. Mecca and Medina are redemption camp, too. When Jews and nasara(not CHRISTIANs- CHRISTIANITY was founded by Paul) were in Medina, they were simply muslims by faith and loved by be Allah bcuz they followed commandments until they disbelieved and disobeyed. They they got kicked out.

Mohammed kicked out Christians from Mecca and Medina (and Muslims are happy) but you (Muslims) are complaining how the Americans are bombing the Muslim countries and how the Jews are 'oppressing' the Palestinians. That's the law of karma and it will remain so till Jesus comes back.

the same way they were kicked out in Europe by CHRISTIANs. Did your Bible not informed us of destruction of locals by Jews and CHRISTIANS?. Did your Bible not inform you that the only people allowed in the holy are believers with righteous conducts?. When Muslims ruled Jerusalem CHRISTIANs and Jews lived peacefully with them. But now that Jews are ruling Jerusalem they are intolerant of muslims and CHRISTIANS. Why are you acting as if they cared about you in Jerusalem?. Did you not see how they treat CHRISTIAN Africans?.

JeromeBlack:
Why didn't you give this answer when I first asked? Were you scared? Or are you trying to hide something?

scared of what?. I knew you had motives so I must frustrate you first

JeromeBlack:
Why are you so dubious. I asked you a question in such a way that it should show that I know what shirk is.

But you, in your silly way of trying to be smart, want to shift the question.

why did you think I must answer your question while your intent was not hidden to me?. Don't people (including Muslims) watch Nigerian diabolical movies involving Yoruba mysticism?. Does that authentically cast shirk aspirations on Muslims?

JeromeBlack:
Is that the question I asked you?

what do you know about SHIRK?

JeromeBlack:
Empi.ree.

Is it Haram to watch Avengers. I was at the cinema about to watch the movie an there was this muslima in hijab who was raving about thor.

Thor is the Norse god of thunder. Now, is it not shirk to be supporting another god albeit a fictional one?

what does atheist knows about SHIRK?

true2god:
A christian can not build a church, a Hindu cannot build a temple, a Jew cannot build synagogues in Saudi Arabia.

how many Hindu temples and Jewish synagogues are there in Vatican?. Zero.

The Jews and the Christians were in mecca and Medina long before Islam but Mohammed promised to expel and do expelled them from their ancestral homes because they were not muslims. For now, the Chinese government have not expelled the Muslims from their ancestral homes but Mohammed and Muslims did that to non-muslims. Remember Khaibar?

Their "ancestral homes" indeed. Maybe you should revisit your Bible where Abraham destroyed idols and kicked out indigenous people and Deuteronomy 12:3

It was the same way Muhammad (saw) kicked he's and CHRISTIANS out which is now evident in 21st century. W can see they tolerate all types of vices now. He did the right thing by kicking them out. Otherwise Mecca and Medina would have been like the Sun City Las Vegas.

Chinese govt wouldn't do that bcuz Muslims violated nothing in the land.

true2god:
Maybe you have a comprehension problem but let me make it simpler for you to understand. What I am saying is that the west was built on Judeo-christian principles but many of them are abandoning their traditional values for new age doctrines, beliefs and lifestyles, some of which are tolerating the LGBT movement, atheism and Islam.

Did I say I didn't understand?. You don't need to lure islam with LGBT/atheism. Islam will survive with or without anyone. So simply say they have abandoned Jesus Christ for the devil bcuz Jesus had nothing to do with LGBT movement and atheism.

In the last 40 year this 'Trinity' was not tolerated as it is now and the current liberal values make people less religious but more materialist. The fruit of which is the gradual moral decay in the society. And if you go through our last engagement, I told you that the west is going through a cosmic process of downfall and destruction for all these vices to be happening and tolerated in the society.

tell this to the church. It is CHRISTIANs that usually tolerate vices in the name of civilization.

You may be right, neither are they going to be Islamic in the nearest future. The worst that will happen is the Spanish model if the Islamist become populous and, as expected, become more assertive, troublesome and violent as their immigration and natural population grows in the west. You understand what I mean by 'the Spanish model'? And for the collapse of Christianity, it will remain the most populous religion worldwide till Mohammed bow and call Jesus 'My Lord and my Messiah'

thank you for confirming the collapse of CHRISTIANITY. @bold will never happen bcuz, there is no ref for it in your Book.

The saudis, at least in this modern and information era, have not caged non-muslims but they still kill apostates and never allowed religious freedom

Propaganda!. Give us valid evidence of apostates they have killed

YUNGCONCEPT11:
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PLS FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH

it has to be like that sometimes but will never be forgotten.

Goke7:
Un? Ridiculous. The man already has been disgraced and that's enough.
Anywhere he goes, that stain remains permanent. No need shaking more tables

no, he should face persecution for assault but definitely not with UN. He should resign actually but Nigerian politicians have no shame.

These are the youths many yearned for?. He should set example by resigning from his post or suspended pending investigation. He definitely must be in police custody.

PrecisionFx:
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Are u saying buhari na gay?

na Buhari the only nija authority

PrecisionFx:
What is RUGA fess before u start blabbing about atiku

You tell me Republic Under Gay Authority

PrecisionFx:
What is RUGA?

whatever it is, another fulani presidential candidate (Atiku) made the same proposal. Did you watch Atiku interview?.

deomelo:
They did not ask the states to provide land for heardsmen from the north or other states either.

They want states to volunteer and donate land for the national livestock program for them to develop and allow investors from anywhere to invest and set up livestock business including grazing, animal husbandry, animal clinics, meat processing and packaging businesses and generate IGR at the same time.

even with this they (fed) still make sense. It is SW ppl that need to be smart enough to invest in livestock business if they don't want fulani to occupy them. But instead, many SW want "office job". They are so lazy and don't want to get dirty. There is nothing in your write-up that said the land should be donated to fulani herdsmen. Too much misinformation flowing around. I support federal government initiative. You have so much barren lands but make no user of it. If you can't make use of it then donate it to govt for investment.

true2god:
In essence, from your logic, since Christianity is fake, Islam, LGBT, atheism, and other new age practices are OK. Don't get it twisted, Islam is still 1% of the US population (over 90% being immigrants from Islamic shitholes) and still less than 5% of the population in the EU (more than 95% being immigrants). The combined average of Christians in the US and Europe is still above 80% of the population. So chill bro.

but you have said these places in the West are not really CHRISTIANs but "CHRISTIANs". It means they are the same people in Homosexuality, atheism etc. In another word they don't really have faith. That's clear from their secular views. They mock their god(Jesus) 24/7

true2god:
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Joseph Stalin of Russia, between 1920 to 1939, declared Christianity as illegal, destroyed all churches, killed most of the Bishops and declared Russia officially an atheist country. When, in 1941, the Germans Wehrmacht overrun Russia and Russia about to be completely annihilated, the same Joseph Stalin, in the public prayed 'Oh God, come and help us'. He called some Bishop still alive, rebuild many Churches and asked them to start praying for Russia's victory against the Germans. This is how the Russia's Orthodox churches were restored. People will always forget God, especially when the going is good and prosperous, this is the case of Europe and the US as at today.

this is 21st century. They aren't going back to religious way of life anymore. The way they mock God not in the West is worst than 1930s. So you can see why Islam is standing tall despite so these challenges of atheism, homosexuality the religion is waxing strong. But when the same vices hit CHRISTIANITY the religion collapse. The only traces is by name. And don't ever compared yourself with Orthodox CHRISTIANITY. They have more sense than majority of the Christian world. They will never allow a man marrying another man have have marriage certificate. But modern Western CHRISTIANITY which majority of Africans especially Nigerians subscribed to is a fallacy. It is actually atheistic in disguise.

true2god:
You seem to ignore the standard you created concerning the Chinese' interment of about 2million Muslims and Saudi Arabia destroying other religion and killing apostates who leave Islam. What do you make of the 2 scenarios?

guy, could you please point where Saudi cages non muslims in open concentration camps, burn down their houses of worship and forced them to accept Islam?. I don't see that. Kindly provide valid source. Thank you


**Modified**

There are nonmuslims in Saudi Arabia. Only Mecca and Medina they aren't allowed. Did you read a guy in other thread over a wk ago gave testimony that he has CHRISTIAN friends who are teachers in Saudi Arabia?. Maybe you missed it. The guy is not muslim

I still stand by this

Empiree:
I actually listened to his an hour long audio yesterday. The only thing i disagree with him is his approach. So i need to understand where Albaqir and usermane stand on this. His approach is that a muslim who witnesses insults upon prophet (p) doesn't need permission from authority to kill such person. And he cited references from medieval scholars.

Problem with this approach is, it creates anarchy. Only authority is allowed to handle this. So he really got that wrong. This is what i believe is extreme in his view. He also pointed out hypocrisy of some Muslim leaders who rather tried to caution Muslims from raising their voices when nabi(p) is insulted.


However, it is a must for govt, Muslim or not to sign a bill making it punishable offence for anyone who insults the prophet. You can not let people just have field day in the name of "free speech". For as long as they refuse to sign such bill, incidents like Charlie Hebdo etc will continue to thrive. If it is free speech to insult the prophet, you may need to ask them why Western world made it punishable offence to deny or mock holocaust.


Shouldn't people have the right to deny it if they don't believe it happened just like people have the right to deny or reject or mock islam or any religion?.


It is also punishable offence to insult president of the US. But they will appear to you in the media like it is free speech protected by First Amendment to the Constitution. But behind closed doors, secret service, fbi, cia already picked up whoever insults the president and take him or her to secret location and fvck him up. Family members will not see him or her anymore till qiyamah. They have killed many people like this for running their mouth or lock them up indefinitely. But they come to you in the media that it is free speech just so people can insult the prophet. I know what i am talking about. You just need to search internet to see their dirty secret.


So my opinion is, muslim and secular muslim govt should have or retain such law that make it punishable offence for anyone who insults the prophet. But only govt should carry out hudud not average citizens. The least citizens should do is, stay away from where islam, Allah, nabi or any islamic figures are being insulted. Or citizens should only report to the authority "If You Hear Something, Say Something". That's how it should be.

ornicus:
CAN, PDP and co have politicized this kidnap
by their own actions, they have made Leah Shuabu a high status prisoner
recovering her will be very very hard and maybe impossible, because she is now a mega bargaining chip
the right wingers leah's mother is attaching herself to do not give a fk about black people beyond political points



as an aside, i hope other parents in danger zones have told their own kids to be wiser when confronted by religious psychos

muslims, Christians, jews, buddists etal have been persecuted/murdered for their religion and nothing has happened

I love this. Does she think by going to Washington DC they will suddenly rush down to nija to secure her daughter?. This is now politics officially. How about many Muslims killed in the region?. No one talks about them except "persecution of Christians". What a load of rubbish!

OyinO:
Why can't Angel Michael and Gabriel go and rescue the poor innocent girl? What's delaying their swift action??

goes to show you all Nigerian pastors performing "miracles" are liars including TB Joshua. If this case is true this is a real case they needed to channel their so called miracles at.

CHRISTIANs love deceiving themselves.

shams040:
Age is not personal in a sane society.

you mean Nigeria is insane

true2god:
The US and Europe are gradually turning their back from religion while promoting atheism, LGBT and Islam. That's a fact. You need to do a YouTube search to see churches converted to clubs, mosques, parks and banks, they are many.

which means they have realized that CHRISTIANITY was scam. They have utilized the better part of it and left Africans with shakushaku Christianity. They have no choice but to abandoned it bcuz it doesn't fit modern lifestyles like Islam. Christianity you have in Nigeria is nothing but shakushaku abandoned by Europeans

Tolexander:
Oliver Kahn can attest to that

you reminded me of this guy. Been long I heard his name. Very good goalkeeper

Keep deceiving yourself. this was recently sold church in upstate New York to Mosque


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV4pURZYOy0

true2god:
You are right, even some churches are being converted to clubs and banks. The issue is that Muslims consider Christianity as an enemy and so it is a propaganda victory if a church is bought and converted to mosque. Club owners and bankers who converted churches to clubs and parks have nothing to gain going to social media to make known their 'victory' because it will have no impact on their business.

Europe, as at today, is no longer religious and many are turning into agnostics and atheist. So it is futile using an old church bought by Muslims as a propaganda tool and Europeans no longer sell their old churches to Muslims because of this. For the fact that few and insignificant number of churches are converted to mosque does not eliminate the fact that Islam is an Arabs imperial movement whose motive and global domination and control. I at times wonder how you think.

The Chinese call Islam mental disease and are currently re-progamming over 2 million Uigur Chinese Muslims so that their brain can be useful for China's growth and advancement and not to promote Arabian religion and culture. In Britain, the call it re-radicalizaton of Muslims but they serve the same goal, de-program people from Islam.

someone with a little sense of humanity in them would not support Chinese treatment of her Muslim citizens. Don't allow hatred to cloud your senses

true2god:
Nobody read the Quran and embrace Islam, not possible because the Quran, without the tafsir and the hadith (rumours and gossips) does not and will not make sense. You and I know this fact as the truth.

Non-muslims, especially in the west, embrace Islam because of the sugarcoated (often lies and half-truth) versions of Islam they are being fed with and over 75% of them leave Islam after 5 years when they are being gradually introduced to the real face of Islam. Islam thrives in the atmosphere of ignorance.

I know you are in pain and confused at the same time. You know the truth already.

You know there are evidences online of many converts. And churches sold and converted to Mosques. Help yourself https://m.youtube.com/results?search_query=Churches+sold+to+Muslims

And this below right here I have prayed there twice. It was a church of Jesus Christ now converted to Mosque of Jesus and currently going through expansion. It is located in Hollis, Queens NY. You can see the outside and inside structure resemble Christian church. It was just bought two or three yrs ago after the church lost members and Bishops tired of CHRISTIANITY and other top pastors embraced Islam. Oju ti e

And Europe is the worst. Churches are losing to Muslims faster than federal express

And do you remember video game in the 90s called Sega?. When you played soccer with computer and you are defeated, computer says "you lose"

Nathphil:
Stop this citizen dis and Dat, did he start any major reform that are of benefit to the citizens and we objected.

You blind?. You deaf?.

Why do you think he was re-elected?. He was re-elected bcuz ppl saw his potentials.

samuel900:
I thought Buhari government will introduce WAI.... indiscipline everywhere.

who can please Nigerians?. If he implemented strict rules you would say he's a dictator. Didn't you people say this already?. Have you not accused Buhari of dictatorship?.

If he attempted discipline rules you would say he wants to islamise Nigeria. I used to think only govt is guilty of Nigeria pathetic condition. Citizens too are very well guilty.

strangest:
Well the court is there if you feel bad about it

my understanding is, court already ruled hijab in public school is constitutional. Therefore this is violation of the law. Clearly CHRISTIANs in Nigeria are becoming nuisance