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I already responded to one of the allegations you raised from previous page but got banned as soon as it was posted. I'm not going back to that anymore.

Ultramane:
Science:

Till this very day no one knows where these walls are. We're in the age of GPS and satellite, we can survey the entire earth now but we cannot tell for certain the walls DQ built.

All the walls speculated by Muslims as the walls of Dhul Qarnayn, cannot hold back the so called tribes of Gog and Magog any more since air crafts and missiles capable of flying over walls have been developed by men. Gog and Magog are men.

So, either Gog and Magog have trespassed the walls now or the entire Gog and Magog story run the risk of becoming a myth. If Gog and Magog tribes have trespassed the wall, who were they?

NB: Muslims once thought the Mongols who destroyed the caliphate in 1258 were the tribes of Gog and Magog.

As for this, there are difference of opinion. I support opinion and research that Wall of yajuj and Majuj was brought down (Allah knows best). There are evidences to suggest release of Gog and Magog.



* Return of the Jews to The Holy Land

* Sea of Galilee dries out

* Globalization



There are proofs from Hadith and current affairs. No wall is standing in the world today that prevents Gog and Magog from scaling over. During medieval era or pre-medieval times, a king sent expedition around the area suggested by Qur'an and historians to search for possible locations of the wall built by ZulQurnain. They finally got to area called Caspian sea and found a wall crumbled and ruined. There are more story to this. As far as I am concerned this was the strongest evidence of the release of Gog and Magog. I will not waste time on this. Let me go to other evidences to support this.


Quran tells us that Israelites were banned from returning to the Holy Land to reclaim it as their own UNTIL Gog and Magog are released from their barrier (Q21 vs 95-96). Almost all the tafsir agreed the town mentioned in this Ayah referred to Jerusalem. So the Jews are back to reclaim the Holy Land with help of yajuj and majuj.



Sea of Galilee

There is a Hadith that speaks about drying water in the sea of Galilee. It says yajuj and majuj drink the water everytime they passed through on their way to Jerusalem. Some people take it literally thinking that they literally drink the water. It could mean, for example, they want to turn desert to green which Benjamin Neta campaigned for during his first election along with former New York Mayor Bloomberg ..." making desert green". It would cost tones of gallons to do this project. So basically they waste water. That's what the Hadith is saying. Finally the Hadith said when the last of yajuj and majuj pass by (close to return of Jesus) they would pass through sea of Galilee and say 'there used to be water here' which means it is dried or almost dried out. Right now they (Gog and Magog) are passing and drinking. I need not elaborate. Now the Sea of Galilee is low.

Also Dajjal had something to say when he met with people stuck on an island. The Dajjal asked them to inform him about Lake Tiberias, specifically, whether or not there was still water in it, to which the men responded that it was overflowing with water in abundance. Then the Dajjal stated:


“Soon it will dry up” (Sahih Muslim)


Google sea of Galilee and see it is drying at slow speed but raised eyebrows in 2008/09. That's why Israel wanted to attack neighboring countries to source water.


The second Hadith clarifies that the drying Lake Tiberias(Sea of Galilee) will not be complete until Gog and Magog invade the Holy Land and drink the last of its water, as the Prophet Muhammad (saw) said:


“Allah will send Gog and Magog, who will swarm down from every slope. The first of them will pass by the Lake of Tiberias and will drink what is in it, and the last of them will pass it and say: ‘There was once water here.’” (Sahih Muslim)


Some ulama insist the wall is still standing therefore, yajuj and majuj will not be released until the return of Jesus. This is just wrong interpretation because Quran used "release" . Hadith used "send" which means they are already released the last of them will be sent and head to Jerusalem at the time of arrival of Jesus.

Finally, eminent scholar, Allama muhammad Iqbal (d. 1938) said "yansiloona" in sura 21 Ayah 96 means all yajuj and majuj are released. This was his last public speech he gave before he was silenced until his demise.


So I am off the opinion that the barrier set up by ZulQurnain wass already in ruin and yansiloona.


* Globalization which means all types of vices, sicknesses, diseases, dress codes, same death etc all around the world are identical. Homosexuality which you support comes to mind. This is part of the world order of Gog and Magog.

Kingsaeedibn:
This thread is nothing but comedy..



A boy with 15 IQ questioning HIS creator..

Using human being findings (science) which is never reliable to argue facts that has been existing before time..

You case is worse pass psychiatric hospital

he's not muslim. He has mind of his own

Now you talking. Let's build the trust.

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usermane:
Empyree's insensitivity to his psychological manipulation



No, man. No. He was not pulling my leg. He was being a jerk, wasting my time, and decide to frustrate, intimidate and guilt trip me after I pointed out most Muslims would not approve religious police pestering them for salat. I didn't understand him better then, so I fell for his psychological manipulation, and left posts that I shouldn't have.

Afterwards, I think I apologized & explained I could no longer engage with him on NairaLand again. And I stopped replying or reading his posts for several months. But this man won't leave me. He continued to haunt me on my threads, leaving ignorant or nasty comments, fighting with posters that agree with me.

He would troll and taunt me, call me hypocrite or ex-Muslim for identifying as a Muslim but critiquing Qur'an verses. And he'd remind me how much I owed him for his posting on my thread because no one else posts on my threads. All these behaviors are similar to those seen in personality disorders I've mentioned above.

say what you want. The moment I sensed the way you talked 5yrs ago I realized you are on a mission. That mission manifested in 2019 and everyone seen what I already seen half a decade ago. I have received private messages elsewhere telling me I was right you are on a mission. Hence my reason for attitude you called "personality disorder". You think people are fools?. I wish I could screenshot their texts here. Your mission is clear now. I have also achieved my "mission" to victimize and exposed you. My efforts came to fruition 5yrs later. You aren't muslim. Period.

Now, to proof that I have been pulling your legs all along for years, let me cite just one example. Remember our debate on "sun prostrates beneath the Throne" narrated by Abu Darr?..

I have said one time on this platform somewhere 2yrs ago that when sunset (somewhere) it rises (elsewhere). It was a question posed by church to Abu yazid Bistami(ra) "where is Sun when it set?".

So I decided to frustrate you so you could further expose who you are. I already had foreknowledge. To proof to you my position and to let you know that I was always aware of the Hadith yrs back, remember we had debated last yr on the issue and you recorded exactly what I said.

Now look at the screenshot I posted in my thread. It was dated 2016 which means I was aware of the Hadith prior to debating you. So I pulled your leg. Read what Sheikh Adam Andullah Al-ilory said. Why do you think I didn't know what I was doing?. I pulled your leg, buddy.

userm.ane:
Equating fighting and killing zakat defaulters to arresting and prosecuting tax defaulters



Hmmm...? What is this? So much difference exist between the two. I tackled the differences - What is so WRONG in enforcing Zakat.

If I live under sharia and they come to collect my zakat, I can tell them that I'm not paying to them.
If they insist, I can tell them to "F' off", and that "I'm no longer a Muslim, and don't have to pay zakat". I continue to secretly practice Islam, pay my zakat directly to the poor by myself when ever I'm ready. Nowadays, nobody would border me. Of course, if I lived in the time of Abu Bakr, I'd be sentenced to death.

People become Muslims on their own. They don't owe anyone zakat but God. If the state is concerned about the poor, let the state decree a non-religious tax or reserve some fraction of the annual budget for the poor.

I won't bother with this bcuz you didn't reply my last comment there anyways. My position doesn't change. Zakat are of two types and there are different views as to who gets what. Let me leave this right here. Your response (if any) determines my reply

user.mane:
Justifying killing zakat defaulters with moral relativism



Do yourself a favor by studying sharia from the classical tafsirs, hadith and fiqh. Reduce listening to modern apologists like Mufti Menk or Nouman Ali Khan, or even Yasir Qadhir. What Abu Bakr did to those who didn't pay zakat is not just the way people in those days are handled for not paying tax. It is the way of sharia.

Sharia is not human ethics that modifies with time. It is perfect, final, divine law immutable at all times.

only Abu Bakr (ra) can ascertain allegations made against him. Unless I decided to argue base on record in our literature, I see no reason to believe in all the essays that Abu Bakr did this or that after Qur'an has already exonerated sahaba. It is unfair to persecute them in their absence. There are amongst the ummah who reject some stories especially if Quran says contrary. Even though Quran doesn't detail stories of sahaba, a verse that exonerated them was enough to eschew irrational criticisms of sahaba. Stories could be written by friends and does. Only Abu Bakr could tell us what really happened. If someone tells stories about someone, there will always be minus and plus to the stories. In the light of this, the Bible says in John 8 vs 17-18



It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.


Which means only Abu Bakr can confirm the stories not historians bcuz when you read history books you read controversial essays about companions portraying then as good and bad.

I don't even listen to these individuals you mentioned.

user.mane:
Empyree can't understand Qur'an & Human Liberty



No, of course I knew he was against killing Muslims for not doing salat or zakat. But I find it upsetting that you deny killing is the legal penalty in sharia, and you think it is still OK to harrass and drag grown men to salat. I did my best to pinpoint the loopholes in your philosophy long ago on my thread on Human rights.

what are you talking about?. I decided to ignore this thread to show you finish barking. Unfortunately I was banned before when I tried to reply. I just got out of NL jail.

Now i have your time.

Didn't I tell you I think twice that my argument with you was meant to go with your flow?. @bold was my concern earlier. Which legal legal penalty is killing in Sharia and for what sin or crime?

With regards to "dragging grown men to salat", was that not a debate about "hisba" in Saudi where I said it is their country and it is none of your business?. Did I say it is binding on all muslims?. I remembered you asked me if I believe Muslims should be forced or punished if they neglect obligatory duties like salat etc.

Listen, I don't owe you explanation whatsoever because you aren't muslim. I know exactly what I believe. I don't believe in forcing anyone to pray salat, fast Ramadan, perform Hajj etc bcus there are conditions that are personal sometimes that may delay these practices. But I will always go with your flow bcuz you are in a mission. And I will proof to you in my subsequent post(s) that I played you along.


And what I have in my room is none of your business. You don't know me. I will continue to squabble and psychologically manipulate selected audience or targets for specific purpose. So you can talk all you want, buddy.

Also I am just wondering why you didn't read further from the same thread you quoted?. Albaqir later understood why I approached true2god that way after the dude refused to mind his business. Did you care to read albaqr' subsequent comment?. Free me.

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it is hatred for buhari my friend. Everything he does equals to islamization and fulanisation. Rubbish

somehow:
Please I need to know.

Are herdmens only Fulanis?

No Igbo herdmens?
Yoruba Herdsmen?
Hausa Herdsmen
Ibibio Herdsmen
Bini Herdsment
Ijaw Herdsmen
ETC?

Alot of people make it sound like Fulani are the only herdsmen in Nigeria and very QUICK to label any herdsmen vs farmer conflict with "Fulani".

Who did this to us? I just believe people are using this to spread their hate for him.

Buhari only has 4 years left as the president, I will be here to see if this trend won't die off after he's out of the government house.

Saucyxo:
I would assume nairaland is a chill place for people to wind down and express their views. You just take it so personally, especially since it's such a faceless forum. Plus, your tone can be a little mean.
Judging solely from here, if I made a mistake and you were my dad, I'd rather die than tell you.

lol... This is your opinion, unfortunately

true2god:
Are you OK? Why do you trick me to watch a pointing finger? Take your time oooo.

it is called 'bait'

Saucyxo:
Lol I'm not going to go searching to find what you do for a living. When I'm not a stalker.

Awh do you actually have kids? Are you a strict dad? I'd be so scared to be your daughter tbh

why did you insinuate @bold?.


As for asking him about his job, I actually asked sincerely out of curiosity.

Saucyxo:
What do you do for a living ?

How many kids do you have?

my job is not hidden here only if you could noticed. I work in medical field and I am also private real estate investor.

How many kids I have is personal to me. I think I said that earlier

Ultramane:
Science:

At some point in some years, there is no dawn, sunset or night in the poles of the earth. This is known as period of midnight sun. Ramadan sometimes falls in the period of midnight sun, like this year in a place like Norway. So, in 2019, Muslims in Norway could not commence their fast at local dawn and break at night.

It begs the question, if the author of Qur'an is the creator of the heaven and earth, why dictate rules for fasting Ramadan, rules that are not possible to fast by in certain years at certain parts of the earth during Ramadan?


Also note that during the period of midnight sun, certain salats like Fajr, Maghrib, Isha'i will not be possible as they depend on dawn, sunset and night to tell when they due for observance.

Go to Norway and challenge them. I am sure you will be laughed at. This past Ramadan we learned something. They have absolutely no problems fasting except munafiq like you. The man clearly explained how they fast in that region. General rules of Ramadan applies to them unless where exceptions arise. It is a recent phenomenon

Their climate geographic condition is a Signs from Allah. You can take it or leave it

Ultramane:
Science:



But it can be said that they transgress this boundary because they exchange water molecules across the boundary, mixing at a slow and microscopic level. Given sufficient time, these water bodies will fully mix, fully transgress the barrier.

How long these two oceans exist?. I am sure they have been there for donkey centuries. So when are they going to mix?. In another 3.2 billion years?

Yeye

JeromeBlack:
Islam does not teach you manners? Stop asking personal questions that are non of ya biz

how do you define "personal questions". If you ask me what I do for a living I have no problem telling. It is not personal.

Personal questions are things like your age, number of children you have, your ID etc.

Anyways you don't have to tell anymore since you have took it personal....smh


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JeromeBlack a k a Logicboy

JeromeBlack:
Lol.

'Lol' is not an answer

Saucyxo:
LOOOOOOOL

Say Wallahi you believe what just happened

why do you doubt it?

Lesson To Learn


https://www.facebook.com/ispartv/videos/1336060396542662/


A Drunkard Came To The Masjid Insisting To Perform Salah With Masjid Imam And See What Happened .....Watch Till End ----

JeromeBlack:
Lol.


I don't discuss religion with employees. I just observe.

what do you do for living if I may ask?

ihollarmide:
May Allah guide them all

watch this 1min video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NPwHHH5isQ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHVB-kLd8Tc

I do not subscribe to this Sheikh analogy with respect to return of Jesus and Gulam Ahmad, but his message is understandable. Mirza Gulam Ahmad was a liar. His followers are misguided.

budaatum:
There are no gay Muslims anywhere!

these are products of rape by bandits. If you scrutinize them you get to realize they are products of broken homes.

Our world is in mess and religious way of life is old fashioned to them. Quran speaks about these things. Any learned religious person would not be bemoaned. We live in strange world now. And all these vices are always started by white/light skinned people. I am not being racist but simply stating fact.

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booksrite:

crazy, right?

Saucyxo:
Hmm okay oo.

Just relax eh. Sometimes play with somebody ah.
Even the prophet (saw) had some banter moments.

I hear u

Saucyxo:
What ?

you are saying this bcuz you reading text. If you think I'm harsh while typing you wrong. Besides the guy is not a stranger. We know him very well. I know him now going to about 5yrs

JeromeBlack:

How did you find out?

because I am a jinn

Your traits don't change

JeromeBlack:
Typical of you not to.take a joke

I have just realized you Logicboy aka Jackbizzle. You have history in this section and your are so obsessed with muslims. If I realized earlier I wouldn't be wasting my time since

JeromeBlack, i replied you on your thread but am banned. Hopefully i will repost it when am freed from NL jail. However, see why i said you guys are nothing but scums?. You just replied Saucyxo on general islam thread that what you like about islam is "Jilboob". Obviously you crazy.

Thats why i dont take it easy with apostates and atheists. Maybe Saucyxo would now understand my standpoint against homononsense.

Anyways, check out this thread