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JeromeBlack:
Oga, what is your point? Are you trying to say that underage sex is loved by the American society?

Not just America. I am simply telling you it is well and alive and that "sex education" actually encourages sex revolution despite recommended precautions. Pills and condoms do fail.

JeromeBlack:
Empiree my boy,


Please, go and learn the difference between anecdotal evidence and concrete evidence. I did not just provide a news article- it had a RESEARCH proving that sex education reduces teen pregnancy.


2 or 3 examples of underage sex (between adults and children) does not prove that the society (America/Europe) approves it.
2 or 3 examples of theft does not prove that the society approves of theft.


The law is what proves how a country's morality is structured.

get on ground and experience things yourself. One video I posted was just example. There are more.... Bro more and more out there.


It is research from my end too.

JeromeBlack:


I am not understanding..........

Alabosi

JeromeBlack:
Bro,

You are 100 percent wrong. Sex education actually reduces teen pregnancy.

besides, it doesn't stop them from whoring. It rather makes them sex object and statistics for men.

JeromeBlack:
Bro,

You are 100 percent wrong. Sex education actually reduces teen pregnancy. That is a fact. I even posted link to research confirming it to you before.

When everyone calls you brain dead you will be complaining

I have to you to stop smoking Igbo. I have told you to stop listening to official news and articles. They don't tell you what you wanna know but what they want you to know. This was the reason I posted videos and screenshots. There are grandmas at 30 and still counting. Yes, teen pregnancy may have reduced in some places but your link is not a full proof

Ultra.mane:
Damage Control for Caliph Abu Bakr's Tyranny



Hmm... I'v addressed this in detail on my thread "Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity". There, beginning under the subheading,"Freedom of Belief and Expression" to "What is so WRONG with enforcing zakat", I devote my time to prove that the Qur'an is against forcing any Islamic ritual on anyone. I proved that also with common sense.

You are not a Muslim. So you aren't in position to tell me what's enforced in Islam and what is not. As far as I'm concerned, my comment goes with the flow. I don't believe in forcing any rituals on fellow muslims unless and until it gets to a point where no option is left but to enforce zakat on the rich. Zakat (both two types) are equivalent to modern tax system. They are all aimed at achieving same goal.... ALLEVIATE POVERTY

userm.ane:
Poor understanding of the term "Islamic/Muslim terrorist"



Forget the media. Not every slight misdeed done by Muslims is Muslim terrorism, but every misdeed Muslim commits and justify in the name of Islam, or Qur'an. If Boko Haram, ISIS, Al Qaeda carried out their terror without invoking Islam; shouting takbir and reciting shahada or quoting Qur'an, we can all agree not to call them Islamic terrorists.

The New Zealand shooter did not quote Bible or shout 'Haleluya', 'In Jesus name' or 'Jehovah'. So he's not a Christian terrorist. Charlie Hebdo shooters on the other hand not only killed in the name of Islam, but they kept on shouting 'ya rasoolulah' and 'Allahu Akbar'. No one should have to schooled on this. Think.

Allahu Akbar is not hidden phrase nor is it restricted to muslims. Anyone can chant it.

Did you watch CSI Los Angeles where LL Cool J successfully recited verse of war from Qur'an to fake terror!st attacks?. It is easy too read Arabic, man. Your agenda is now on full display. I get it. You are not muslim.

user.mane:
Fallacy of Whataboutism



Oh, look! Fallacy of Whataboutism. Also known as Tu quoque fallacy. "I know Muslims attacked apostates but what about Jews & Christians ............"

obviously you can't counter my point. Closed

amdman:
I currently drive one. It was love at first sight

I currently own infinity Ex35 (2008).

How I wish price for this one is a little close to a million. That would be a grab for me. But I respect your tag price. I'm just looking to buy one for someone in nija. That's why I'm shopping here.

AlBaqir:
First, I think tafsir based on Ir'fani (mysticism) explanation about the meeting of Hadrat Khidr and Nabi Musa make lot of sense than regular tafsir with so many curry-flavored excuses to justify what Hadrat Khidr did.

Ir'fani explanation is that Khidr simply took Nabi Musa on a spiritual journey to see more about spirituality. None of the happening took place in alam tabi'at (natural world): the fact that Khidr has nothing to do with this realm of ours. It perhaps tell the reason why Yusha ibn Nuh (Musa's companion and eventual successor) was left behind on that spiritual journey.

Second, the verse:

Surah Al-Kahf, Verse 65:

Then they found one from among Our servants whom We had granted mercy from Us and whom We had taught knowledge from Ourselves."

The word "servant" used in the verse is not of regular meaning used for every sundry. Apparently we are all "servants of God". But this is different Just like "friend of God" used for Ibrahim. All these title are special stations (darajat) reserved for deserved individuals. And they are stations far above nubuwat (messenger-hood) and risalat (prophethood). And there other exceeding stations also.

I agree with you. It is still in line with my position. Sometimes we just hold back some things. I was gonna say the killing of the boy etc were not real. Otherwise Khidr would have been guilty under Sharia

Aren't you bias now?. You wanna believe what you wanna believe. You have been doubting everything I said until I showed you a video proof. After you watched it the first thing you realized was, you were convinced there are underage pregnancy and then you wondered why the dude was not arrested?.

You wanted to cover up by saying the guy was dead before court appearance and I proved to you again there are similar cases where dudes were present but not arrested.

Also you read comments from the video and screenshots I provided and even a comment by a lady making confession. All these are pointers to the fact that there are underage pregnancy in Western world and no prosecution.


I have said about 3 times now that I'm never against so called sex education. I only said it does little or no effect on preventing teen pregnancy. You just watched one for crying out loud. You chose to disagree with my last post because of my opinion. Now you insisted on sex education is what I don't understand but you have seen clearly it doesn't prevent anything despite creating awareness.

With all your talks and talks you still never offered lasting solution. You asked for mine and I provided one. Fact is that, you guys are predators. Predators don't want these girls marry so that they could use them for their selfish pleasures. This is greed.

Again, what sex education does is awareness and curiosity. That curiousity aspect is what landed many of these teens in bed with guys. I also told you that contraceptives and condom option provided by sex education are not 100. Besides, when sh!ts are up, these teens forget about these precautions. They say "fvck it.... whatever happens". That's why you seen the lady in court. Tintingz, why do you shy away from saying the truth after watching the video?. The girl was 21 with 3 kids. Abeg, let's assume she was ignorant of sex education the first time. How about second time?, Third time?. And subsequently she's in the midst of paternity questions about her child. This is not fair to the poor baby. This baby has the right to know her father. But sex education doesn't really teach moral conduct parents teach. This is what led to this sex revolution since 1960s. If sex education works so much why there are so much teen pregnancy still?. This is what you failed to address. All you could tell me was "it is not 100%". The video you just watched yesterday was even fair. You will get to see worse than that and because your weren't satisfied, you said it must have been censored or something like that. At the end of your blabbing you still did not come to reasonable resolution other than to tell me I am ignorant of what sex education is. It was actually in the best interest of both parents and their children with respect superstitions they told their children. It was for the better and it worked back then. Sex education only created awareness and very little about abstainence. Nothing more. How I'm I ignorant of it?.

tintingz:
With your epistle you written, it shows you're Ignorant of what sex education is. I've asked you if you know what sex education is.

First of all, you are bias on what sex is or maybe you don't understand what sex is to human nature.

In sex education there three parties responsible for this, which are the parents, formal schools and health campaigns.

Parents counsel their children on sex education but most parents are religious or traditional to teach the truth about what sex is, they mostly add myths, superstitions when they counsel, you hear something like if you have sex you will die or go to hell, or you get pregnant by just touching a man, don't let any man touch you and so many other emotional threat. This is because they were not taught proper sex education by their fathers and mothers, sex education is a taboo in most African cultures and even in religion. This is reason we have different barbaric practice in cultures and religions.

Schools now take responsibility of sex education since they are closer to students, they teach biological aspect of it like human reproduction not superstitions and threats. They educate students to abstain or use protections, they educate them how to use these things like condoms (I don't think pills are recommended in schools).

Health campaigns take responsibility of the health care of the people, they create awareness of the consequences of having sex, they tell people to abstain or use protection if things are up, they make people know they own their body and no one can control it for them which is a fact, and when things goes side ways they counsel people like the case of pregnancy, STDs, HIV to avoid depressions from stigmas.

Kindly inform yourself better and quit displaying your Ignorance.

tintingz, has the word "marriage" been banned from dictionary?. Why is it missing in all your write up?. Let me ask you this, you see the girl in red shirt in the video yesterday, is she ripe for marriage or not at the time she had her first child?. She was definitely around 15 or 16 when she had her first baby. No such thing as VVF. Why is it so difficult for you to say something about marriage?. Remember all her 3 kids are fathered by different older dudes. This is what I try to avoid for my daughter outside of wedlock. Oooh, empire is ignorant of sex education. I know I do. Nonesense and ingredients

true2god:
Sagenaija wrote:
Your response:If you read your response you will discover that you never said anything to disprove his claims. He made a very valid point which you, rather than address them, chose to ignore.

his believe crept into his submission. Just like the word 'God' is misconstrued in CHRISTIANITY. God means Jesus to you. Why do you think I should waste my time on this?.

Alhajiemeritus:
How did Sheik Habib intrrerprete the issue of the cave?
That someone doesn't agree with other people's tafsir doesn't mean he is wrong....
So don't say wrong.

in sura tawba I think where Allah said nabi and his "companion" without mentioning him by name. Most tafasir indicated it was Abu Bakr who was with nabi in the cave. This is what Muslims believe throughout history. But sheikh Habeeb said it is Catholic myth. He cited materials he read online on Catholic literature. He said that's what Qur'an alluded to. But Quran indicates it was nabi in the cave. Even Shia tafasir said the same. Only one book of tafsir in the Shia literature disagrees it was Abu Bakr who was with him. This is why I believe sheikh Habeeb was wrong on this. But definitely he did not deny the Ayah.

AbuTwins:
Asking for the dead to pray for one is foolishness as the dead does not have such ability. No doubt we can visit the Muslims' grave and supplicate for them. Supplication directed to the dead instead of Allah is Shirk. How can you make Tawassul through the dead when we know the dead is incapable of doing anything by itself in this world? Moreover, the good deeds and status of an individual benefits only himself and whoever Allah wills among his kin. And you will never find an authentic example for this in Sharee'ah.





The Tawassul about Nabi is a wrong and an innovation. If you agree that supplication is worship and for worship to be saheeh it must have a clear evidence in Sharee'ah.
The authorities in Saudi usually put measures against those people trying to turn the grave of the Prophet to a place of worship.
This is in line with what the Messenger of Allah (Peace and blessings of Allah be on him) said:

"O Allah, do not make my grave an idol to be worshiped after me. Allah was very angry with people who took the graves of their Prophets as places of worship".

(Malik, 593, Bukhari, 3765, etc.)

On Salat al Ibrahimiyyah:

This the the way the Prophet told us to seek blessings upon him.

This stems from this hadith in Sahih Bukhari:

Narrated Abdur-Rahman bin Abi Laila: Ka'b bin Ujrah met me and said, "Shall I not give you a present I got from the Prophet?" 'Abdur-Rahman said, "Yes, give it to me." I said, "We asked Allah's Apostle saying, 'O Allah's Apostle! How should one (ask Allah to) send blessings on you, the members of the family, for Allah has taught us how to salute you (in the prayer)?' He said, 'Say: O Allah! Send Your Mercy on Muhammad and on the family of Muhammad, as You sent Your Mercy on abraham and on the family of abraham, for You are the Most Praise-worthy, the Most Glorious. O Allah! Send Your Blessings on Muhammad and the family of Muhammad, as You sent your Blessings on abraham and on the family of abraham, for You are the Most Praise-worthy, the Most Glorious.' " Book #55, Hadith #589

There is evidence to use the Most beautiful names of Allah as Tawassul
There is evidence to use our good deeds as Tawassul
There is evidence to seek du'a from righteous people as Tawassul

So if you have a evidence kindly bring it?

you already buttressed my fact you we will never understand it the same way even if we read the same way. Solati Ibrahimiya is tawasul made by nabi through Ibrahim (as).



as You sent Your Mercy on abraham and on the family of abraham,


@bold is called "akaso" in Yoruba language. Prophet Ibrahim was dead when nabi made this supplication. Why did Nabi Muhammad made mention of Ibrahim in this manner?. This establishes permisibility of tawasul by virtues of righteous servants, prophets, waliy etc You ignored the screenshot I attached. Asking the dead directly to do something for you is Haram. You can see that Nabi Muhammad did not ask nabi Ibrahim anything but asked Allah by virtue of Ibrahim.

Tawasul by virtue of the deceased is not asking the dead anything. Most Muslims do this. Are you saying most Muslims are on dolal?. The best of tawasul is by virtue of nabi Muhammad (saw).

Besides, there is Hadith where Adam(as) used virtue of muhammad ibn Abdullah(saw). I am mobile now so I can't really quote the Hadith. You know the Hadith but unfortunately your scholars considered it "daef". This is their opinion.

Also Allah doesn't need Saudi Arabia to protect grave of nabi from shirk. When the prophet (saw) made supplications that his grave should not be place of worship Allah will forever protect his supplication. There will never be shirk at his grave. Today, it is Saudi authority that opens the door to his grave to important personalities who made sujud(not really sujud) but kiss the floor at his grave. Is that shirk?

Ummah of Muhammad never rejected tawasul of virtue of the prophet throughout history except scholars you mentioned. Also all 4 madhab said it is fard to recite solati Ibrahimiya on salat. Without it salah is hanged. Which means unless we made tawasul of muhammad by reciting solati Ibrahimiya after teslim our salat will not go through.

amdman:
2004 Infinity FX 35

220k miles

No reported faults

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I always love this truck. Anyways loaded.

true2god:
The guy presented a solid argument on Muslim semantics, especially when it comes to the use of the name 'Allah' as a generic name for God (in the Arab world). Instead of you to address the issue you are forming 'too educated'. If you don't have any rational response you can simply say 'Allah knows best' instead of being dodgy.

everything he says will always make sense to you nonmuslims because you are in the same category. There are now evidences against him to extricate him out of Islam. He can go away in peace. We don't need his explanation.

true2god:
Why then are you superimposing an Arabic word into an English translation of your shahada by still adding 'Allah' into the English translation. The correct translation could have been 'there are no gods but the Almighty God'. This makes more sense but no, the Islamic caliphate will never accept that because it won't serve their culturo-religious purpose. The word 'Allah' must be mentioned to give Islam the required legitimacy it requires among the culturally 'conquered' non-arab Muslims.

Allaah is Allah. Nothing more

iamgenius:
Egbon, E tun ti de

Their issue is as simple as 123. I have a friend who is also an Ahmadi whom I told that their ideology is Kufr. No one has ever told him that before. Then I explained everything to him, then he said if all what I said is what makes them Kaafir then he's not with them in all those things. He rejected all their claims totally after I explained it to him. It will be a mistake for me to call him a Kaafir because he still go to their circle. Maybe bcoz of his parents I guess.

I have another friend too who is one of their Imams in one of their mosques. I explained things to him with the best of my ability and with the support of others too. Wallahi, he didn't just want to hear or understand whatever we say. So we label him a Kaafir coz we can see the arrogance in him. Cuz he had seen the proof right in front of his face.

I don't agree with people calling everyone a Kaafir, coz not everyone knows what take them out of Islam. So if we see anybody that calls himself a Muslim and he's doing something that take him out of Islam, we should explain to him first rather than calling him a Kaafir from the beginning. Example is Mr Habeeb of Markaz

And also, you bringing the "khatam Nabiyin" up, that didn't justify their misunderstanding. It directly shows they understood what Khatam Nabiyin means, except they don't understand Arabic which I know they do.

Anybody with the Ahmadiyyah belief is a Kaafir, there's nothing less than Kufr in it.

Note: The above doesn't apply to Christians, Jews, Atheists etc. They're Kaafir ni.

you didn't point out any specific doctrine that is kufr in them. You only said you explained things to them. All I seen with them are some misinterpretations. Kufr is distinct from wrong tawil. They did tawil with "khatam nabiy" but they did not deny the Ayah. Denying Ayah is kufr. Same with sheikh Habeeb on the issue of cave. Here was wrong with his tafsir but did not deny the Ayah. It was wrong for those who were quick to pronounce him kafir. This means those people do not know what takes one out of Islam. Scholars throughout history of Islam have difference of opinion on a single Ayah but they all believed in the Ayah. Get the difference?

tintingz:
Ok, do you want people to be Ignorant of the human sexuality?

What do propose in alternative to sex education?

Do you expect sex education to be a perfect thing?

Are humans perfect?

I provided my opinion but that gay girl called me "terror!St". So now you realized "sex education" after all does little to nothing. It is overhyped. It is something responsible parents can teach their children which our parents taught us. But the way they taught us was more reasonable than what NGO and govt etc teach. Parents would teach abstainence. Govt teaches pills and condoms.


What parents teaches is in harmony with Islam. Govt however says 'it is your body... do whatever you want with it just use cd or pills for safety." You already seen implications of govt/NGO's approach. Plus whether they use cd or pills or not it still turns these young girls to "registered holes". They are only meant for guys' pleasures. At the end of the day these guys would dump them when they are ready to settle down and get another girl they have no record with. What happens to other girls they used?. Heartbroken, prostitut!on, lesbianism, drugs and sexual abuse. That's how they end up.

They are just statistics


Raise your children properly and shun all these organizations that pretend to care about children. The difference with Western world is they know they can't control this menace. That's why they have good social benefits which I was talking about earlier but you guys just don't get it. Stop falling for their propaganda about the North. They use this excuse instead of fixing social opportunities, provide marriage incentives for parents in case their children pregnant or have babies, provide standard healthcare in Nigeria. Instead of doing these they apportioned for themselves billions of naira in monthly income.


These social benefits are what the West have but they just don't encourage marriage. Once a lady gets pregnant she registers for social benefits (optional as always) but they respect you more if you care for yourself.

They give you benefit card (food stamps) with average of $200/wk only for mother. One you deliver baby you get WIC (Google it) for the child. If you don't have a place to live or can't afford rent, they tell you to look for 1 bedroom apartment for you and your child ONLY. You are getting all these benefits bcuz you claim your baby father is not in the picture. If he's, you may get little to nothing. What's is common is these girls always claim they don't know where their baby fathers are even though they lie 80% of the time.


So they encourage you to look for job. If you get a job but not earning enough, they do the math to see how much rental assistance you qualifed for. They most likely pay 70-80% of rent directly to landlord. They are doing all these for you because of your child. Now tell me why Nigeria can't do this instead of screaming about "child marriage"?. These benefits are what Nigerians and other countries go to us, UK, Canada, Germany, Italy etc for. Whether they have legal paper or not it doesn't matter.


These Western politicians tell you so much about freedom to do whatever you like. Sleep with whoever you want. Have as many babies as you like with many baby daddies as you like. But look at their own children. They live decent live. Look at Chelsea Clinton, Bush' daughters, Mike Huckabee's, McCain's and so on. When do you see these politicians daughter live crazy lives like average Westerners do?. Their daughters married and live decent lifestyles but they tell you so much about freedom. It is only poor masses live baby mama- baby daddy lifestyle most of the time and many of these babies don't know their father. Or they get to know their father later in life. Please watch paternity court for more. Some episodes will make you cry when you see how people live.


So solution in my own little way is that, first give your child proper upbringing. To be obedient and respectful to you and be nice to them too. You don't need to tail them. That's old fashion. If your child has respect for you he or she will think before taking off her pant before opposite sex. Unfortunately, sometimes things just don't work the way we wanted. Once you notice she's getting attracted to boys, call the boy she mostly hang out with, talk to him, get to know his family and be straight up with him. Talk to his parents about your value etc. These are your rights as parent. If they are in love wed them. This doesn't stop their education at all unlike old mentality we have in nija. Give them their section in your house to live as couple and respect their privacy. If they eventually have baby together it is time to double your love for them with financial and emotional support. This is my solution. But you may say my option is for wealthy family. Yes, you may be right. That's why I said nija govt has a lot to do in terms of social benefits.


If you have objection kindly let me know.

Following.....

sagenaija:
Smart guy, have you been able to respond positively to any question you were asked on this thread? NO!
Look at this last question to you for example; In your shahada do you say: "There is no God but Allah ...." or "There is no Allah but Allah"?
Is it simple enough? Yes!
Did you care to answer it? No!
Why? It will expose one of the LIES of Islam.
Were you forced to post anything? NO!
Are you getting crazier by the day as your strike-throughs show? YES!

There are readers of this thread and they will know which "level" any one who posts belongs. Cheers!

La ilaha ila Allah

See those 3 separate phrase above?


The first word La is negation of the following phrase ilaha deities, gods (whether human, Jinns, angels, stone, animal, fire, water etc that you worship). Therefore, La ilaha means "there is no god (deities, humans, angels, jinns, stone, fire, FSM, and so on that some people called gods or creators)


Followed by "ila" which mean "except". This is affirmation of the next phrase Allah (The undisputed Creator of the Whole Universe of seen and unseen). Combining the phrases together here La ilaha ila Allah - The Is/Are No deities (worthy to be worshipped) EXCEPT Allah

tintingz:
My point is, if this guy is still alive at this point in court, he would have been arrested for sleeping with underage except if he's underage himself then.

They probably kept everything secret, why didn't they go to court when he was still alive?

Arrest my foot. If only you watch a lot more you will see more guys in court with underage girls. No arrest, nothing happened. Seeing is believing?. How's "Sex Education" working now

I also gave you example of a guy on judge judy with his underage girlfriend. Why wasn't he arrested?. The answer is, it is you Africans that carry "underage" for head like gari due to religious and political differences like Stella Damascus once did while she was in New York during Yerima time. They all talked just to make headlines. Now you see for yourself. Seeing is believing?

There are more worse cases than this pal. If you watch more Judge Lake you see a girl at 17 or 19 with 3 kids and currently pregnant by another dude in court at the time. All her babies by different dudes and there are paternity questions. All the supposed baby fathers were present in court. Why? bcuz they are intercourse. If not they wont be in court for possible father. Judge said "Gosh! this is another case of babies having babies", and they come to court shedding crocodile tears.

Welcome to 21century, guys. When i was saying this yesterday you all think i made it up. Sex education is nothing but indoctrination to having sex with every Tom Dick and Harry in the name of "protection from aids and unwanted pregnancy". Thats why they recommended pills and condoms. At the end of the day, these options are solely up to both parties. Guy, there are bunch of 30yr old grandma in Western countries.

sagenaija:
[s]Language can change over time. Words can equally acquire new meaning over time. However, whatever new meaning or change that results must be clear.

When the Palestinian Christian says:"Allahu Akber" and Moslem jihadist says about the same words, do they mean the same thing?

I want to believe that even when the Palestinian Christian used the word "Allah" he believes that he is referring to the Father of the Lord Jesus. Will the Palestinian Moslem think the same? Do they both believe that the Father and Son are Allah?

If the polytheist in Mohamed's day mentioned "Allah" would he and Mohamed be referring to the same personality?

Now, I want you to answer this:
In your shahada do you say: "There is no God but Allah ...." or "There is no Allah but Allah"?[/s]

your level is low and doesn't match me. Having back to back debate with you is a waste of time. I already unfollowed this thread days ago but decided to post that.

#unfollowagain

tintingz:
The guy Is dead when this case was raised.

this is all you could come up to with?. Did I say I didn't know. I have watched it 4 times already. You should focus on subject matter concerning the girl and her age and children she has. If you don't understand read comments.

AbdulHakeem44:
Ahmadiyya are not Muslims, they violated many Islamic creeds and falls into nullifiers of Islam.

Ahmadis are considered non-Muslims by many mainstream Muslims since they consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the founder of the movement, to be the promised Mahdi and Messiah awaited by the Muslims.believe that Mohammed was the final prophet sent to guide mankind, as orthodox Muslims believe is laid out in the Koran.

They disbelieved in the Quran verses that says Prophet Muhammad is the last of the prophet.

bro, I disagree with them as well but please don't say they are not Muslim. They still uphold all obligations in Islam. I disagree with them on Gullam Ahmad etc.

See @bold, please don't get emotional. You are wrong. It is true that rejecting Ayah of Qur'an is kufr but misinterpreting Ayah of Qur'an is not kufr but misunderstanding or madhab issue just like they misinterpreted return of Isa in Quran 43 :61). So they misinterpreted "khatam nabiy".

I definitely disagree with them but it is not kufr. Try to understand this simple thing.

tintingz:
Give a YouTube link on this particular one you provided.

I thought you are Mr. Researcher?.

Anyways, seeing is believing. Since you are too lazy let me help you. Now deny again after you watched


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CSn0JjcxJQ

That's it.

JeromeBlack:
Unfortunately, none of your Islamic scholars believe that bullshite you just wrote.

Bilal is nothing but a lackey. Bilal was never a scholar, you lying Muslim. Bilal was a muezzin. A freaking musician for his a Arab slave master.

Mohammad had many slaves that he did not free till he died. This is especially true for the female slaves

Even if 1000 pages is written to convince you it will be of no use.

You skipped slave trade practices pre-Islam I mentioned and jumped on Islam, muhammad and Muslims. I know your type.

Saucyxo:
Please let's stay away from eachother. I actually think you're a terrorist.

what's definition of highlighted?. If someone doesn't accept your gayish is a terror!st?. Exactly gay man, keep your distance. Rubbish

JeromeBlack:
The same prophet that traded in slaves?

My guy, go to sleep

face the truth presented to you. Prophet muhammad freed slaves. Yes, he bought slaves from Jews and nonmuslim Arabs to free them. Those slave became great scholars of Islam like Bilal.

Saucyxo:
I do. But with free speech comes responsibility. Doesn't mean it cant have detrimental effects.

I cant walk around saying homophobic things or racist things. Christians can't walk around talking about how muslims are trash and muslims can't walk around talking about how Christians are trash. There will be consequences. Same with atheists. Dont walk around talking badly about God because you don't believe. I dont understand. Why is it your business?

perhaps, you now grasped my point when we argued homosexual practices. I said it is something to keep in their privacy but we will not be intolerant towards them in public or discriminate against them openly. But we will hate their practices. That's not bigotry. But to verbally or physically attack them is homophobic and hate crime.

Alot my friends work in Saudi and the UAE as teachers. Christians and atheists. They dont talk about God and no one asks them any questions. They dont feel the need to discuss something that they dont believe in.

You are a living witness now. Tell your fellow CHRISTIAN and atheist bigots who claimed Christians are not allowed in Saudi

true2god:
It is not news that Jesus died and rose in the 3rd day as prophecied in the scriptures; it was not an accident but part of God's plan for the redemption of the sinful man.



Tufiakwa!

How does this refute the fact that his own people killed him whether he rose the 3rd day or not?. What's even more ridiculous is blasphemy for saying your god was killed. What kind nonesense is that.

For the fact that he was killed on the cross by his own people makes you guilty of the same allegation you levied on Muslims.



I know it pains you
Tufiakwa