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Islam › Re: Qur'an: Human Rights, Freedom & Equity by Empiree: 6:16pm On Apr 01, 2019

true2god:
And the sect died out: when did they die out?

Lol, you are asking me. The same way chrsitians those days dressed faded or died out is the same way this died out. You all now wear tie and suit.

Which Jewish material, for the past 3500 years, did they call 'Ezra the son of Allah?'. The quran makes a claim that Muslims has no prove or cannot defend except telling us that the sects that believed that doctrine has died out. A yoruba adage says: a liar will make a dead man his witness. This is exactly what Muslims are doing. If no living being can collaborate your claim that mean that claim is a lie.

This is simple now. As I said earlier, what was reported was that it was either one Jew or small group of Jews that held this belief. One thing is clear, not all Jews said this belief. Therefore, it wasnt a widespread belief amongst the Jews. You may now ask, "what's the significance of it for Quran to even mention it in the first place?". Well, The Quran rebukes heretical and erroneous beliefs of the Jews and Christians, whether those beliefs are widespread or not. Gordon Newby in his book 'A history of the Jews of Arabia' says that in the book of Enoch, Uzayr was assimilated into the 'Metatron' - the creator of angel and thus was a son of God. This is an ancient debate between the rabbinic and kararite Jews. Try to research more thoroughly next time. Gordon D. Newby is acclaimed specialist in Islamic, Jewish and Comparative Studies in the Department of Middle Eastern and South Asian Studies and a Professor in the Graduate Program of West and South Asian Religions. He is still alive and probably held the belief. It is the same way unitarian christianity is not common amongst christians. If a christian denies Jesus is God in the presence of many christians today, you would think such christian is a muslim. So it was minority Jews who held the belief. Therefore, it could not have made it to mainstream Jewish text but Quran captured it.

I am not re-visiting the issue of the 'Trinity' except for the fact that you brough it up again. My only question to you was, for you, to explain Mohammed's cocept of the Trinity, using the quran and the hadith, and relate same to the Christian's concept. This is allow us have a better understanding of the source of the doctrinal confusions will see in terms of Mohammed's claims/objections on the subject of the Trinity.

Here we go again. Qur'an did not say 'trinity' or place Mary in that concept. This is what Quran says “And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? 5:116

So it is evangelical christians that twisted words of Quran saying Quran say Mary is part of the trinity. This is your conclusion not Quran. But this doesn't mean there aren't christians in history who held this belief just like the story of Ezra which was held by minority Jews. In the same fashion, some christians might but Quran did not say Mary was part of trinity.

You are muddling things up here. Grave worship, reverencing animate/inanimate objects (like kissing the black stone), visiting a graveyard as a religious functions (like a form of necromancy and ancestral worship) are all idolatry. To Muslims some of the practices might be ok, but to the Christians, they are idol worship. As i said earlier, kissing black stone and running around an inanimate object (7 times around the kabba) was practiced (as still being practiced) by the Hindus long before Islam, so what makes Islamic practice right and Hinduism wrong in terms of these two similar practices, of which Islam even borrowed from the Hindus here.

"grave worship". Who is talking about grave worship?. I said ziyara to the grave i:e visitation. You cant tell the difference?. Kissing Kaaba or stone is not worship. They are sunnah just like is recommended that after we make wudu, anytime we want to read Quran, we should kiss it. You haven't seen muslims kissed Quran?. They worship Wura in the context?. Kissin of Quran and kissing black stone are in the same context.

There are so many scientific, geographical and historical mistakes in the quran. If you care I can provide them to you. Stop making a bold claim you cannot defend.

bold is meant to scare me off?. Instead of asking me first, why not simply post those "many mistakes"?

Christianity, at the height of the papal power was bloody, especially the time of the crusade and the inquisition. Christianity, to the Pope (the papal power), is a political rather than a spiritual institution hence using religion as a political tool for oppression and even murder.

This is true christianity. You can not understand Bible Jesus better than them. What you have now is separation of power which is against Jesus teachings. Jesus tried to enforce his political power of them and of course he was thier spiritual rabbi. Why did modern christianity separated the two?. You must be fake christian. The height of papal power was true christianity. They combined Old and New Testaments but you ran away from OT.

Islam, since inception, has been fraught with blood and warfare, from the time of Mohammed, the time of the rightly guided caliphate, till the time of the Ottoman empire. It is, as a matter of religious duty to fight for the cause of Allah, especially against the Dar al-Harb (house of war, land not yet conquured by Islam). Christianity, unlike Islam, does not divide the qorld into Dar al-Harb (house of war) and Dar-salam (house of peace, lands under Islamic rule)

Dont worry about islam. You just confirmed christianity is bloody religion ffron inception, too. Why are you trying to single out islam?

I have already quoted an hadith by Ibn majjah (an Islamic source document) why the verse of stoning was not included in the quran. Besides, there are many hadith narrations in sahih bukari (deemed authentic) that contains many narrations that sanctioned stoning as a form of punishment for adultery. If the compilers of the quran excluded it from the quran, it is never my fault.

Again, i still dont understand why you singled out islam when it is written clearly in your Bible that punishment for adultery is stoning to death. Why is this significant?. But if you claimed it was expunged from Quran to prove its distortion, the only evidence you can effectively bring is prophet muhammad himself. What you read in sahih Bukhari and ibn majah were simply narrations of incidents before verse of flogging was revealed. Even what is generally understood is that if a verse of Quran was cancelled, it is still in the Quran. But in this case you're saying verse of stoning was overridden or expunged from Quran. This is false regardless of narrations you read.

Islam › Re: ...... by Empiree: 2:58pm On Apr 01, 2019*

LadunaI:
Wow! That is interesting. The truth is, I do the same 're-reading most of our posts here, and I continued to gained more insight. Infact the last time I was stucked at pg 5 trying to drive home the concept of ruyaniya based on different post and stories you and Ikupakuti have said on that issue.

Pls do try and be posting more on ihzan as the writer of that email said, I will always try to chipping my little contribution because that's when I get enthused posting, as most of discussion/topic here hardly get my spirit "resonates" lol.

Perhaps you can start telling us more about those heart melting stories. I was totally carried away last time reading how meticulously you wrote those stories you narrated to us then. You're always a good narrator though

Lol...I just try to remember as much as I can. Some of them faded away or slightly remember full incident like encounters with alagemo at ijebu ode btw 1990-92. I was present outside with my younger brother when that happened.

Just couldn't remember everything unless I ask my sheikh. As for Alfa I told you about in (ilorin base) regarding this previous conversation

LadunaI:
This was exactly the position of Imam Ghazali(ra) then before he decided to engage more on tasaawuf inorder to experience it, and them see if there is any substance in Sufis claim. The Imam got more than he bargained for and he was convinced about the veracity of Sufi experience. However, he was guided more because of his deep knowledge of sharia Islamic jurisprudence hence able to avoid pitfalls many Sufi fell into.

I think I love this intention, and perhaps this will serves as a safeguard not to fall into shirk really. But they normally lack the will power to follow thru to see for themselves if those claims are true or false.

Actually am still struggling to differentiate these entities. I am kinda leaning towards belief that generally a Muslims jinn are called rawaniya. Coincidentally, 2 days ago when I was going thru our discussion on previous thread I was particularly stuck at Khodam/ruhaniya stuff trying to do more research on it. I haven't got enough evidence or material on it as I really like. Hopefully with time am going to get more stuffs on it.

He's learned obviously. He told me some stuff and clarifications on the issue of alagbigba (ayewo) and istikhara and ruhaniyun. He insisted ruhaniyun are not Jinn. Plus my Sheikh said jinn give lots of charm than Dua.

His conclusion was that the bottom line is belief system. As long as it is not corrupted. As in judgment is clouded and you start seeing everything is God or rely on Angels, Jinn, ruhaniya or whatever besides Allah. That's where problems kick in. He said differences today are very simple to resolve but it won't bcus everyone wants to draw crowd to their ideology

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 2:03pm On Apr 01, 2019

So you still around?. I remembered you from some years back.

MuttleyLaff:
1/ Are you by any stretch, implying that, it is impossible for God to be in two places at the same time?

this is not the point. Don't derail. God can see the entire universe and heavens, deep down the ocean, deep down darkest of the dark front and back all at the same. He's everywhere by His Mighty knowledge and Attributes. But this doesn't mean He's Dua or He got partners helping Him out. This is nonsense.

2/ Are you, implying that it is impossible for God to project Himself?

you can explain your definition of 'project' and let's see.

3/ Are you implying that it is a hard thing for God to do becoming God and man at the same time?

what sort of rubbish is this?. Did Jesus say this or this is what you came up with?. Your Bible clearly says "God is not a man" Num 23:19. Why did you abstain from clear evidence?

4/ You say: "Jesus did not exist before Adam. Adam did not mention anything about Jesus. He mentioned God" but are you aware of Jesus' words that said: "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM" and the implication of that

this simply means foreknowledge. Besides I am talking about Adam not Abraham

5/ You do understand, agree and accept that Jesus is the Word, right? You do, huh?

Yes, Quran confirms this. So in your understanding it means God?. Jesus was the word coming from God. The word is "Be! and he (Jesus) came into being". This is the same word that applied to Adam(as).

6/ You asked: "when he was a man on Earth who was in control of the heavens?. Did he put heavens on auto pilot?"
Dont you know who is God the Father then?

remember back in 2014-16 you and your fellow CHRISTIANs got kicked in the butt for this belief system of yours?. We dealt with this subject back then. You seen to imply that god-the man was controlling the Earth and God the Father controls the heavens. Obviously, these are two different individuals. If this is your belief, then you have not only contradicted your other Bible verses but you have also violated your first commandment. "Hear Of Israel, your God is One"

In Islamic terminology this is shirk(polytheism) you have committed. And shirk has no forgiveness unless you drop it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 1:58pm On Apr 01, 2019

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 1:32pm On Apr 01, 2019

MuttleyLaff:
1/ Are you by any stretch, implying that, it is

shadeyinka

Resolve this confusion of yours before I return to answer your posts

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 3:50am On Apr 01, 2019

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 3:50am On Apr 01, 2019

Told you CHRISTIANs misunderstandings stemmed from translations from Greek, Hebrew to English and so on

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 3:30am On Apr 01, 2019

shadeyinka:
I can see that instead of apologizing for the lies you peddled about the Greek Bible saying "... God's word" , you have decided to present several scriptures that contradict your Qur'an. I have just highlighted some for you

This same Jesus will judge the world including Muslims of righteousness whether you like it or not.

Jesus called God "My Father": then is He not the Son of God?
Clearly, God is NOT a man, BUT God became man. Is the English too difficult to understand?

If Buhari came to your house and served you like a houseboy, does that make him a houseboy?

One of the greatest weakness of Islam is lack of comprehension of the purpose of Blood sacrifice. Interestingly, the only blood sacrifice you know in Islam has to do with Abraham's sacrifice.

So, who invented blood sacrifice? Shaitan?
Why do you think God prescribed blood sacrifices for his people?

Secondly, the concept and gravity of sin in Islam is warped. What do you think is the gravity of violating the command of the almighty, all-knowing, all-holy and perfect God? You know what the scriptures say!?

Hebrews 9:22
Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

That is the rule of God from all the prophets of God from Adam to Jesus. Only Mohammed and Muslims are exceptions. Why!? They do not serve the same God who prescribed blood as atonement for sin.

quite unfortunate that you can't seem to figure out your contradictions. And you stooped low to compare Buhari in this regard. The question is who is Jesus?. God or man?

Your many Bible verses clearly show Jesus said God/Father is one and separate from him. But you ignored these verses and relied on isolated controversial verse which was misunderstood from Greek. I gave you example but you claimed I didn't apologize for it?.

All the Bible verses I posted conformed with Islam but you looked the other way. The reason for this is bcus you relied on a controversial verse that suits you.

My question is, if Jesus is man and God at the same time, who created Adam?

Jesus did not exist before Adam. Adam did not mention anything about Jesus. He mentioned God. Jesus can not be God and man at the same time. If that's the case, when he was a man on Earth who was in control of the heavens?. Did he put heavens on auto pilot? grin

To be a man is to have limitations. To be God is to have none. Which one was Jesus?.

So you can see very close resemblance btw theòs and otheòs. Very easy to swipe Jesus for God vice versa because Greeks were polytheists

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 12:04am On Apr 01, 2019

shadeyinka:
So, I'm here to help you so that you can point out "the words was God's": Google is your friend remember!

JOHN 1:1-5
1 Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος 2 Οὗτος ἦν ἐν ἀρχῇ πρὸς τὸν Θεόν 3 πάντα δι’ αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο καὶ χωρὶς αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο οὐδὲ ἕν ὃ γέγονεν 4 ἐν αὐτῷ ζωὴ ἦν καὶ ἡ ζωὴ ἦν τὸ φῶς τῶν ἀνθρώπων 5 καὶ τὸ φῶς ἐν τῇ σκοτίᾳ φαίνει καὶ ἡ σκοτία αὐτὸ οὐ κατέλαβεν

If laziness will not destroy you and lies are not your means of survival, I have helped you here with an interlinear translation (Word for word translation from Greek into English) so that you can verify your untruth. Here is the link; hope you find what you're looking for.

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/1.htm

Even if the word was God's as you claim simple sense will let you see that this same word BECAME human. Did Gods word become Adam or did God not make Adam?

no same person would accept Christianity. Bible says that God is not man

‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)

‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)

Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible

‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40)

‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)

‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31)

‘the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5)

There are 90 verses that say: Jesus is Not God Nor the Literal Son of God. To a christian, God had to take human form to understand temptation and human suffering, but the concept is not based on any clear words of Jesus. In contrast, God does not need to be tempted and suffer in order to be able to understand and forgive man’s sins, for He is the all knowing Creator of man. This is expressed in the verse:

‘And the Lord said: ‘I have surely seen the affliction of My people that are in Egypt, and I have heard their cry because of their taskmasters; for I know their pains.’ (Exodus 3:7)

God forgave sin before Jesus’ appearance, and He continues to forgive without any assistance. When a believer sins, he may come before God in sincere repentance to receive forgiveness. Indeed, the offer to humble oneself before God and be saved is made to all humankind.

‘And there is no God else beside Me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside Me. Look to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is none else.’ (Isaiah 45:21-22, Jonah 3:5-10).

Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background, later misused this term. Just one they misused 'son of God'. In their heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or someone born of a physical union between male and female gods. This can be seen in Acts 14: 11-13, where we read that when Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of Turkey, pagans claimed they were gods incarnate. They called Barnabas the Roman god Zeus, and Paul the Roman god Hermes.

The Bible says that Jesus denied he is God

Jesus spoke to a man who had called him ‘good,’ asking him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.’ (Luke 18:19)

And he said to him, ‘Why are you asking me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.’ (Matthew 19:17)

Jesus did not teach people that he was God

If Jesus had been telling people that he was God, he would have complimented the man. Instead, Jesus rebuked him, denying he was good, that is, Jesus denied he was God.

The Bible says that God is greater than Jesus

‘My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28)

‘My father is greater than all.’ (John 10:29)

Jesus can not be God if God is greater than him. The Christian belief that the Father and son are equal is in direct contrast to the clear words from Jesus.

Jesus never instructed his disciples to worship him

‘When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven.’ (Luke 11:2)

‘In that day, you shall ask me nothing. Whatsoever you ask of the Father in my name.’ (John 16:23)

‘The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to worship him.’ (John 4:23)

If Jesus was God, he would have sought worship for himself

Since he didn’t, instead he sought worship for God in the heavens, therefore, he was not God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 11:45pm On Mar 31, 2019

sagenaija:
We follow the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.

When you typed this and before you posted it, you didn't smile and say to yourself "I am a joke"? grin

The law of the "Holy Spirit" is in your Book. There are just few of them:

Kill gay

Kill whoever disrespect their parents

Kill fornicators and adulterers

Kill kill kill kill at any offense. That's the Law in your book. Why are you running away from it?

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Islam › Re: ...... by Empiree: 11:36pm On Mar 31, 2019*

LadunaI:
^^^
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emekaRaj

Received this interesting email from anonymous NL member today.

This goes to show there are people reading posts anonymously and truly appreciate efforts.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 9:00pm On Mar 31, 2019

shadeyinka:
Since you don't read, let me help you out

John1:1-4
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

And the WORD became HUMAN!
John1:14

So in what way was it like the process of Adam?

So far, you are the one who came to this conclusion not Jesus.

"the Word was God's"

NOT

"the Word was God."

from greek language it means God's not God

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 8:46pm On Mar 31, 2019

sagenaija:
We still carry the whole Bible because it is part of what Jehovah has determined to REVEAL to mankind.

We still quote from it because it is still God’s word.

The Jews are God’s chosen race that he has a plan for.

The Old Testament is outdated only to the extent that the New Covenant specify. So, the New explains the Old. Where the New supersedes the Old the New makes clear. Where the New substantiates the Old it is equally made clear.

Jesus came to the Jews as God’s chosen race but he made it clear that he was starting with them but extending his work beyond them.

That we are under the New Covenant DOES NOT mean that we are lawless. Even the New Testament confirms this.

You shot yourself in the foot. Now, pay attention to highlighted. If you agree you are not lawless, what law do you follow then?. I am not talking about common law or english law or our man made laws. Which God's Law do you follow?

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 7:27pm On Mar 31, 2019

Hypocrisy as usual. cheesy

sagenaija:
That guy in that video is misleading and misrepresenting the facts.

Christianity IS NOT Judaism.

Not all that is in the Bible is instruction for Christians to follow.

The Christian belongs to a New Covenant.

The prescriptions for the Christian come LARGELY from the New Testament.

Using what was done in a previous era to LABEL Christians is either
at the least a misunderstanding of the issues or at best an expedition into deception.

If that guy can point to ANYWHERE in the New Testament to justify his claim I will be
the first to admit that he is right otherwise he is only being mischievous and deceptive.

Unlike the koran, the Bible has what applies to the Jews and what applies to Christians.
That distinction has to be understood.

Does any part of the koran apply to ONLY Mohamed's time and others to today's or
does it apply to Moslems of all eras?

So, hope its clearer to you now.

If Old Testament is now invalid, why do you still carry it around your arms to the church?. Why do you still quote from it and why do you use it to support Israel/Jews?.

If Old testament is outdated, why would Jesus say, as recorded in New Testament that you have your Laws to follow?. Is Jesus talking to the Jews in the NT about following the old Laws?. If Jesus was talking to the Jews about old Laws in the New testament, the implication is that NT has nothing to do with christians. Man, your New Testament was filtered. It was created to expunge important messages of Jesus.

Throughout history of man, there have always been Laws. But you are saying that christians are free of any biblical laws. This is ignorance

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 6:09pm On Mar 31, 2019

sagenaija:
You are wrong!
Christian Prince actually uses Islamic sources and
the interpretations of Islamic scholars to buttress his points.

Like i stated at the start:Christian Prince was born and raised in a Christian family in the Middle East. He is a native Arabic speaker. After his teachers criticized his religion, he determined to study Islam and earned a degree in Islamic Law (Sharia Law) & Civil Law. This makes him qualified to be a Judge in Islamic court, having intimate knowledge of the foundational Islamic texts.

And like mentioned to Abuheekmat when he wrote:"Earning a degree won't make you understand Islam."
I said:
If learning about Islam won't make a person understand it what then will make one understand Islam?

So also, if using Islamic sources and scholars cannot be accepted
by you guys simply because the person quoting it is not a Moslem
then it means you just do not want to go with the truth of even your
own religion.

You may therefore have created ANOTHER ISLAM of your own making
and not that which your books have revealed.

He's right about that. There are bunch of people in universities and graduated with 'degrees' but in reality, they got their credits by cheating or buying scores. Our prophet(saw) said there are people who read Quran but it doesnt go down their throat. This is the case of CP. I have no way of verifying authenticity of his credentials. Even if he got degrees in Islamic theology, this is useless if he believe in trinity or Jesus is God thing. It means he doesn't understand islamic theology in the first place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hLJuF4Ugow

Islam › Re: Muslim: Monotheist Vs Anti-monotheist by Empiree: 5:00pm On Mar 31, 2019

Senselessness cheesy

Go back to Arabic and islamic school bro and stop making things up from your little brain. undecided

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 4:54pm On Mar 31, 2019

sagenaija:
Empiree, Another video confirming your position:

Christian Prince The Kabba Black Stone a PAGAN Fertility Symbol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNbdgWXEATQ

What do you expect from someone who doesnt believe in Allah and His messanger?. I have talked about Black Stone so i am not going back to that. Imagine you being a christians and atheist is trying to teach you Bible?.

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:52pm On Mar 31, 2019

Rilwayne001:
Yeah definitely, but I doubt if it's real.

It is hard to believe positive news from nigerians. Their image is badly crooked

Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:50pm On Mar 31, 2019

Rilwayne001:
Wow

this would be interesting job offer, isn't.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 2:41pm On Mar 31, 2019

shadeyinka:
And the WORD became HUMAN!
John1:14

this verse you cited is general rule. The same process applied to Adam and his progeny (sura 15:29)

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 1:58pm On Mar 31, 2019

shadeyinka:
[s]When you can't defend your lies, why wouldn't you fear the truth?

You called me didn't you? Islam as usual hides under falsehood and misinformation. I don't blame you as you can't answer my elementary questions and you can't say what I said was not the truth[/s]

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Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 11:23am On Mar 31, 2019

shadeyinka:
Please for your education, The Taurat is not a book. It is a collection of 5 books.

If Allah was the source of the Taurat, Zabura ,etc it would have made sense. But since you upgraded Allah to the status of Jehovah Yahweh, what else is there to say!

Part of the book protected by Allah was eaten by a tame goat!
This same book protected by Allah had all its chapter randomly mixed up by who..!
Some ayahs were found to absent in the final compilation of the Qur'an!

Is Allah Jehovah?

Your case is closed already. The only time I will respond to your properly is when you know the true nature of Jesus. So far you don't know.

Until you resolve this dilemma of yours, I will be wasting my precious time with you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Christian Prince Explains Islam by Empiree: 2:20am On Mar 31, 2019

^^^

Allah didn't promise to protect tawrah. The verse says Allah entrusted the believing Jews who submitted to Allaah in Islam, the protection of their book. There was no need for Allah to protect it since the mission of Tawrah was limited to the Jews not entire humanity.

They were to:

Know the Book

Believe in the Book

Study the Book

Follow the Book

Teach the Book

Protect the Book from corruption

But most of them failed. Example of corruption in their Book is, It is unlawful for Jews to charge fellow Jews riba(interest). But it is okay for Jews to charge non-jews interest. This is double standards. In American terminology it is called rip-off.

Another example of corruption in their Torah is, they (Jews) don't have to be righteous because they are pigheaded people.

So Christian Prince needs to understand that Quran is not talking about Torah they have now. It is talking about Tawrah of Moses. The one they now have called Torah is a mixture of truth and falsehoods.

Attachment is for you and your buddy, shadeyinka cheesy

Islam › Re: Malcolm X: Sixty Years Later by Empiree(op): 9:51pm On Mar 29, 2019

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Politics › Re: Umar Fintiri Wins Adamawa Governorship Election. Unseats Jibrilla Bindow by Empiree: 1:26pm On Mar 29, 2019

Rilwayne001:
They talked about this girl on radio station yesterday. It still amazes me how she disappeared just like that. And her careless mother too. Daym

there are bunch of "women" these days who don't deserve a child.

They deserve menopause undecided

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Politics › Re: Umar Fintiri Wins Adamawa Governorship Election. Unseats Jibrilla Bindow by Empiree: 1:42am On Mar 29, 2019

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Good morning bros

Kindly Whatsapp me for more information or you can come for inspection in order to physically see what you intend to buy

I was gonna ask you if you could make a short video of the interior and exterior and will give you my phone or email to send it to. I'm not available for inspection but I can send someone to look. But the person may be coming from out of state. So if he's to come he's coming to buy it one time. We have no time to waste.

So I want to see if you can accept 650k after showing me the video?. And you have to start the vehicle while the make the video.

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