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What does Albaqir and Shiamuslim think about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMs0nzyIuOk Far as I am concerned, there are ahadith indicating something like Ashura is abrogated but made optional. http://www.sahihmuslim.com/sps/smm/sahihmuslim.cfm?scn=dspchaptersfull&ChapterID=424&BookID=6 Also, I dont really think muslims now fast in commemortion of victory of Musa over Fir'aun. Today, it is more for personal spiritulity, to ward off sins of previous years etc. It is only for academic purposes the Sunni mention Ashura in connection with Musa(as). Other point is, there is nothing legislated by the prophet (SAW) to commemorate Hussein(as) but I am not object to it if Shia choose to commemorate 10th of Ashura for Imam Hussein so long as they remove unnecessary activities and even jail people beating up themselves. That's ignorance and silly. As for saying prophet(SAW) cried upon hearing the sad news of his grandson fate, his cries was for the moment which can happen to anyone. His cry does not in anyway denotes a means of legislation. I understand Shia Ulama do not agree on those people wailing, tear clothes and doing all sorts of nonsense on Ashura. There are many ahadith that go against such practices Prophet Muhammad, Peace be upon him, said: «The deceased suffers when someone bewails loudly» (Reported by Bukhari & Muslim). Prophet Muhammad, Peace be upon him, said: «He is not of us who beats his face, tears his clothes and bewails loudly when misfortune happens to him as was done before during the days of ignorance» (Reported by Bukhari & Muslim). Some people let their beard grow to show their sadness, then after several days they shave it. Others wear black clothes, or black ties. All of this has no basis in Islam. It is a Muslim’s duty to advise gently those who do these things to stop doing so, since it is totally prohibited. No loss, however great, should lead a Muslim to sour his faith. They should however bear patiently and accept Allah’s destiny. There is no objection to quiet weeping as Prophet Muhammad, Peace be upon him, did when his son died and said: «It is a mercy that Allah made in the hearts of his servants» (Reported by Bukhari). I believe weeping every year over this is irrational. They should rather involved in some academic approach than what Ashura is known for amongst Shia today. I certainly understand it may be commemorated differently in different parts of Shia world. But I need to know on what basis according to the prophet(saw) do Shia celebrate Ashura in honor of Imam Hussein?. Mourning every year sounds like Hollywood and 9/11 to me where people come up with excuses to do what they want. The reason mourning (as in crying loud and wailing) dont add up is because Imam Hussein gone 1400 years ago but according to hadith, relatives of a deceased Muslim may mourn him for three days only, but a widow may mourn her husband four months and ten days. This is due to Hadith of Prophet Muhammad, Peace be upon him, who said: «It is prohibited for a woman who believes in Allah and the day of judgment to mourn any dead person more than three days except her husband four months and ten days» (Reported by Bukhari). So how about those Shia who are not even Hussein's relatives today wailing and still mourning after 1400 years?. This is clear opposition to the hadith ^ Unless there is a specific order from the prophet to commemorate him, I dont think it is appropriate to wail, wear specific cloth and match up the street etc. Let me repeat again that even Sunni Muslims today do not fast as a result of victory granted to Bani Israili. Ashura fasting today is more for personal needs |
Contact17:You seem to got definition of Islamic philosophy (philosophers) wrong. You misplaced it for "modernists". Islamic modernism is an attempt to re-interpret the religion to suit certain people or themselves. If they write books, their books are hot cake in Western countries. Sometimes their books are available for free and freely distributed. For instance, Harun Yahya. Islamic philosophers are thinkers. They analyse and interprete religious texts with TIME (i:e as time evolves). Philosophers or sincere philosophers do not reject Allah's Laws. So there is a difference between MODERNISTS & PHILOSOPHERS really. |
Lord have mercy. This bird loses his mind. He is cursing bcus the dude destroyed his cage...LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBpNTDlhQbY |
And they are funding Bokos too. Bcus buhari appears to be destroying bokos is the reason nija currency is down. They don't like him to destroy their boys. |
Thanks a lot ayinba1, some people just don't get it. Their sectarianism don't allow them to reason. With clear evidence from day 1 when Senator John McCain sat with those terrorists in 2014, instead, these brothers still talking about Assad is evil. This week, someone placed a banner on New York bridge declaring Russia president Putting as peaceful man. The banner is being investigated. Also, Forbes Magazine this week ranked Russia president Putting as #1 most powerful person in the world. So our brothers here who don't understand situation need lesson on this issue and think beyond sectarianism. Sunni stooges are very wrong or on the wrong side in Syria except few. Some of them don't know what they are doing. They are talking weapons and money from Santa Claus (USA) and call that j!had. J!had my foot. What they need to understand is, the West and NATO want to turn Syria in to another Libya. Thanks to those f00ls who called themselves "mujahidden" for making Libya NATO country. Same thing they want to do in Syria. It has been impossible due to Puttin |
AlBaqir:The reason you can't compare the two is, Qibla before Makkah(aqsa) was mandatory just like makkah is mandatory now. Ashura on the hand was not obligatory even for the Jews. It was not their 30 or 40 days of fast that was compulsory on them. Indeed, technically, Shia aside, honoring Saidina Hussein, in my opinion should be priority. You know why?. Musa (as) was long gone way before Hussein (ra) even came into being. But if there should be anything to honor Hussein should be fasting not wailing, jumping, hurting themselves, crying after 1400yrs, tearing clothes, or even cursing those who killed him. Fasting is pretty much appropriate to honor him. Plus is there an order from the prophet(saw) to specifically honor Hussein on the day of Ashura aside from general command to honor his household ? |
Lol...make una no let this thread explode faar |
Some brothers here need wisdom and adhab when debating any subject on Islam Seems like they heard of Shi;sm not too long ago through what they see and what they are told. Anyways, be constructive next time. Thanks albaqir but no thanks. Your submission, while I respect it, would have made sense to me had Ashura (fasting) made fard. But since it is not obligatory, then, it is really no issue. Overall your research and composition is acardemic and commendable. Always love your approach @sino |
[size=15pt]"There is a light emitting from the Quran which new born can see!"[/size] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hUhKzATGWk |
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®She's not properly dressed, no hijab, no scarf, instead of you to preach to her, you are shouting "WOW!!! you look sexy.... Brother u are part of the problem. ®Rasulullah (saw) said "if you know what I know, you'll laugh less and cry more"does that ring a bell in our head? do we have to see b4 we believe? Pls repent ® I want to have money, I want to marry a beautiful wife, I want marry a handsome guy, I want to buy a nice car, I want to build a big house, is that all we think about? We will all die & leave all these. Walahi... ® You think regret is when u did not marry the man/woman u wanted, or did not study d course u liked? NO! Regret is you reaching the grave without enough good deeds" # Subhanallah ®Rich, poor, pretty, ugly, slim, fat, literate, illiterate, white, black, ustaz, pastor, player, King, slave, DEATH does not care who u are, when its time, you are going" ® Someone is dead & you are alive, someone is sick & u are healthy, someone is lost & you are guided, why then are u sad coz someone is rich & you are poor? why are you ungrateful? ®Oh! see Benz, Chai see house, damn! see that babe/guy" the world is just a play & illusion, its beauty doesn't last, don't be carried away, seek Jannah" ®On Qiyamah, people will be naked, but the fear of judgement will not allow u look, have that fear now and stop asking, uploading or downloading nude pics... ®Haba! Qiyamah still far na, because Dajjal never come, Mahdi never show up, even gog and magog. I go Repent before then. Abi if you die tonight your judgement has started®Body no be firewood " Seriously? Is that why you commit zina? You no know say na d same body dem go carry do firewood 4 hell? Don't allow yours to be among. #Repent. ®Did I pass maths & English? What's ur jamb score? U graduate with 1st class? Haba! Those are the only things u care about? He memorised Qur'an. Do u ®Drive your mom go market, u go dey vex, but u Sabi do ajayi driver 4 girl from morning till night. Better #Repent. ®You never shed tears even once while reciting Holy Qur'an but Films dey make u cry, Hmmm check your Iman ®Eye liner, eye shadow, mascara, lip stick, concealer, blusher. powder, if u like do plastic surgery, if your heart is bad, you're deadly ugly. ®You'll finish your runs when it's time 2 marry you'll start searching for holy girl, Bros good women are for good men, if u carry holy girl, wetin holy man go marry #Repent.®Allah can change you from Ajebota to Ajepako, it's all test of life, don't let your Ajebota life make u forget Allah, always remember Him & thank Him. ®If u'r not ready u can postpone your wedding date, graduation date, election date, but u can never postpone your death date, always be ready ®U feel depressed, instead of u 2 recite Qur'an or pray 2 rak'at n, u carry earpiece dey listing 2 Lil Wayne, Davido, wizkid, they needs help too, seek Allah alone. #Repent! ®If you don't respect your parents, your life go bend, and you might end up in hell. #Repent! ®We are just striving & hoping for this world, we don't know our fate, yet we sleep all night. Rasulullah (SAW) was promised Jannah yet he stood at night 4 salah till his feet got swollen. ®I have meeting! I have meeting!! Is that why u rush your salat SUBHANALLAH!!! Thanks for your attention,funny abi bt take those lessons seriously & may Almighty Allah perfect our imperfections by granting us d very best here in dunia & thereafter. Amin (RIC) JUMMAH MUBARAQ |
@ friendchoice, See your first paragraph really was the same thing they used to create these problems. I have spoken brother. Those who are used to me here know I have spoken out about this 73 sects thing. It is clear you take the hadith literally. I am sure if you count all sects in Islam now, they are already more than 73. Some sects have vanished just at the time some scholars were writing books on "73 sects". Before they finished writing to confirm the hadith, another sects emerged. What I see here is pretty much EXACT traits I saw years ago the way you talk. Choice is yours. You are free to write anything and i am not against you. I only advised you to apply hikma to what you do. Plus you need to understand that the hadith NEVER ever encouraged creating or joining sect. Besides, talking about insulting the prophet, almost all sects or at least some, one way or the other are guilty of this - either in their literature or in physical sense. I am done talking on this issue unless when it absolutely important. |
My point really to friendchoice is, it is been 1400 years and there is no end in sight. Criticisms of Shi'a have been around for far too long. Sheikh Ul-Islam(ra) did in his time but it never solved anything up until 20st century. Twentieth century scholars like Sheikh adam ilori, Sheik Ashile, Ibn Baz, Shaykh Uthaymeen(ra) etc. All have criticized them but never called them infidels. If they were infidels, Ulama would have declared them kufar unanimously. This is 21st century and war on Islam is around us. Is this irrational approach is what we need?. You think you are "exposing" them but you may be recruiting more and you dont even know it. I can guarantee you that if you continue like this for the rest of 2016 (which you do have freedom to do), by 2017, it is gonna be the same all over. So how about using different approach that is standard, academic and less provocative?. Posting pictures here and there is not necessary evidence. Besides, if you live in the West and speak like this, only a matter of time before authority notices you. Once they find you, they will recruit you to kill Shi'a in order to cause strife in the muslim community. You will have no choice but to do it bcus it comes with huge incentive (imagine getting paid $1000/per wk for this). And if you kill them, what do you think do are doing?. You end up like boko boys. You may disagree with me but many muslims like that have ended up this way. Some backed out too late. Some didnt make it. Some still think they are fighting a just cause fighting "Shia kufar". That's what happened in Iraq btw 2006-08 when "Sunni Awakening were paid. So be wise and apply wisdom in your criticisms before you are turned to a mole. West have sent many young muslims abroad and within the US for this - known as 'paid machineries'. My point is, the same people who have criticized extremists have ended up just like that. Go and learn from "Revolution Muslim", an organisation in the US that was disbanded in 2011. They had the same traits but devoid of wisdom.Yet, they have knowledge. |
^ Well, in as much you agree that Allah was capable of creating Hawwa from Adam's rib, dont you think trying to dig further is irrelevant?. I respect opinions of others than Tafsir Ibn Kathir as well. I just believe that his is too specific and I have no problem with it. After all, the same clay Hawwa made of MUST have touched that of Adam. |
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Benita27:Because it is a threat to them. They feel their son would focus 90% of his time on her (daughter-in-law) and, or, the wife would take control of him. Indeed, to certain extent, it is true that some men do neglect their mothers. They just need to take it easy. They feel their territory is trampled. Same happens to lions. Male lion feels threatened if another male is sighted in his territory. Anyways, our mother-in-laws need to take it easy. It is not always like that. |
AlBaqir:How do you think she was created?. Qur'an already suggested she was from him. Any other theories are not that important though. If someone says today with another "tafsir" that Hawwa was vomited from his mouth, who cares! I stand by what tafsir Ibn Kathir says which is in harmony with the hadith. I do not believe the ayah was bent to conform with the hadith. At the end of the day, the whole thing is irrelevant to me as a person |
true2god: OLAADEGBU:Clearly you 2 support the Pastor. Never ever complain about bh or any muslim anymore. Such disappointment! |
Brother FriendChoice, why you have right to post this, I do respect your view and all that but....... You have to understand that it is Ijma that Shi'a are Muslims. Clear evidence is their participation in Haj. My understanding is, only Muslims can perform Haj or allow to perform Haj. It is too late now to come up with fictitious fatwa declaring Shi'a to be Kufar. What needs to be done is, if a Muslim is doing something despicable, we are to correct him. To correct him is to do so with utmost respect and mutual understanding without shouting at each other's throat. I am not naive of Shi'i's creed or some of their practices. We can't even dust off all of them with one brush. I am not here to defend Shi'i but to tell you there are some things that are quiet false attributed to them or somehow inserted in their literature. Even Hadith that speaks of 70000 Jews of Isfahan is very careful not to lump all of them. The hadith is simply speaking of Jews who will masquerade themselves in Muslim clothing in ahkir zaman. This means a time will come in the future (perhaps now), some people from Iran who will be pro-zionists or certain people in his administration. But definitely NOT ALL Shi'i. Quiet frankly, their last administration was a true Muslim (Dinajed) who was firmed. But I dont know of this one. Seems to compromised somehow. Even as crazy as Faisal (Jamaican preacher) was, he never criticized ALL Shi'a. He tried to pinpoint In conclusion, this is not the way forward man. It will continue breeding hatred over and over. Same goes to Shi'i who are hell-bent causing sectarian trash. But I am not oppose to sectarian dialogue with mutual respect. Hope you get my point walaikum salaam. |
OLAADEGBU:Stop giving him excuses. Would you be happy if a Muslim destroy a church even though he doesn't kill worshipers? |
^ It is not issue of faith really. It seems tingtinz is just curious how she came into being. I dont have problems with whether she was created from Adam's physical body or soul. If He can bring forth a baby from a woman, what else He cant do?. I understand you feel uncomfortable bcus of the link in the Bible. That's understandable. But we have indisputable similarities. Just like Isa(as), both christians and Muslims believe she was born through virgin Mary. So this is no issue. |
The thing, non-muslims can't really bring this argument to avail themselves when they are guilty of the same, especially christians. However, that doesn't mean 54 yr old man today should marry 10 yr old girl. Today's world is different and full of abuses. There are lots of things to consider before giving your young girl in marry at tender age. I personally can not marry off my daughter at 10 even if she's matured in this age. Possibility exists she would be abused. Those days, in the time of the prophet, even Kafir have some respect for women. But today, even muslims are among abusers. If you marry your 6 or 10 yr old girl today, it is Sunnah she stays with her husband not her parents house anymore. Her father no longer has control over her without her husband green light. Which parents today want this?. You cant just marry off your daughter just bcus she reaches puberty age. Opinions varied at large on this issue. However, whoever wants to reject the hadith is free to do so. It is not mandatory and it is not coming from the prophet(SAW). So forget about christians. They have no claim on this issue against islam using a very simple trick like you did above. But within us as muslims, i can see why some people reject the hadith or criticized sahih book. There are other narrations that portray Aisha(ra) as underage playing with doll when she married to the prophet(saw). I am just sick of this back and forth thing like someone played us with the hadith. For me personally, to marry my sex!ually active 10yr old girl in this 21st century, I rather have her and her little husband(of same age range) to live together in my house, they will further their education and other things in life at my expense until they can stand on their own. Never will she be married off to grown 30 or 50s yr old man. NEVER!. So who can afford to do this in nigeria today when the parents themselves are agents of fitna?. She will be abused if she is to live outside her parents' house. So don't think you are practising Sunnah by marrying her off to a grown man and she gets abused. She be retired back at your house again (adelebo). It is very controversial topic. In the West, forget about marriage. These young girls get pregnant really quick and in most cases to their age mate who is a loser, bum with saggy pant. They only get lucky they have a system of govt that protect them. Otherwise, they would suffer like Africans. |
ibx1976:It is good move but you better not showcase yourself. Otherwise, Nija ladies will play you too. I definitely understand you. It is hard. Sometimes some of this Oyinbo dont want to settle. They want to fling fling bcus of their freedom mentality. Brother, you may have to put aside "I am from UK" thing if you want real one in Nija. Otherwise, ready for players man. |
AlBaqir:See highlighted part is so close. Both referred back to creation of Hawwa from Adam. But the former is specific than the later. |
This Is Also A Quote By Sheik Muyideen Ajani Bello In The 90s In His Lecture.
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^^^^ You too are funny. Did you know there is a moniker called false.man?. I made the same allegation against truthman before. I told him he is a false.man. the next day the real false.man showed up. He was like why are you calling me ![]() I said I didn't know there is moniker by that. That was funny. |
AlBaqir:There is seems to be slight different translations in the three. But the first and second aligned. The third however which is what I quoted in my first post suggests or more specific. This thirds interpretation of the ayah makes the hadith and Tafsir Ibn kathir in harmony with Quran. Let's put aside the Tafsir for a minute. The first two translations only claimed Hawwa was created like Adam (as). Is there a record showing the creation of Hawwa like Adam was created? i:e her statue and Allah breathed into it?. I have never came across that. I do not see any historical fact(s) that Hawwa created separately from clay or dust. The tafsir provided by first and second translations suggest she was created from Adam's soul which is what I have been trying to convey. Just that, the second translation and Tafsir (Ibn kathir) was specific and detailed. If Hawwa was created from Adam's soul, rib story is very close since there is no record of Hawwa creation separately from dust. What do you think? |
^ Apart from Tafsir Ibn Kathir, others' views you quoted are not specific. They simply suggested Hawwa(as) was created from Adam. In my opinion, I believe SOUL is general term. For instance, I can say my child is created from my soul (which is very correct). But in reality, my child is created through copulation. Hawwa was not created into being like us. She had the honor of being "extracted" from him(Adam) - AS. Whatever it was, she came from Adam somehow best known to HIM (Azal wajal) |
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