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blessedvisky:Now I got what y talking about. I'm not familiar with MMM. Just read on it. It's Nigerians fault. You all want quick money or get rich quick. You don't want to farm anymore. I actually thought op was referring to MLM. Indeed, this MMM thing appears to be gambling and fraud too. I don't really do this nonsense. I was into MLM years ago but I'm never comfortable much in it other than used the products for myself. You people are better off doing regular job than GET RICH QUICK trash. You want to copy copy the West.
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Good to hear this. I would love you to post follow up if any. I hope the pastor will turn up and accept the challenge. The debate should as well take place in daylight at his church. If possible, should be televised. I am sure lots of his members will be present to watch the drama unfold. |
Merge your thread with this one. https://www.nairaland.com/3326766/issue-dressings-below-ankles-men |
lexiconkabir:It will derail this thread further if I am to say more. I'd better leave it AS IT IS. |
lexiconkabir:See, it is the same with Ottoman. We all agreed with the establishment when growing up and many still do. It is all base on ijma. But now, here we are grown up. We researched and realized Ottoman did lots if silly stupid stuff that go against Qur'an and Sunnah yet, it is ijma. But evil Ottoman did is portrayed as good and we believed all that. But i dont want to go into that. Does that mean Ottoman didnt have something good in it?. Absolutely not. One of its great achievements is, the last time the world had FREE and FAIR market was the time of Ottoman empire and the end of Dinar and Durham. But Saudi Shuyuk go against this ijma and gave fatwa that paper money is halal. Dont they go against ijma?. Isnt that misguidance? Again, if you talk about ijma, i can go on and on how those saudi shuyuk have gone against Ijma of majority Sunnis scholar especially on the issue of tawasul. Some of their scholars have rejected or disbelieve in tawasul altogether or gave it another meaning entirely. Yet, we still praise them as scholars. And i have no problem with them though. The issue of rajam simply is conflicting within itself and Qur'an when i listened to a Nigerian scholar on live TV. Made me sad. It makes no sense. So ijma has to be on proper understanding of Quran and Sunnah itself not the opposite. |
lexiconkabir:Allow me to add here that it is not only Dr Zakir Naik. I see him as Scholar but not super one. I am of the same of opinion that the issue of rajm is hocus pocus and creates confusion even though it is ijma. There are other scholars who go against it. And for those who know me here, i have debated it as well. Search NL for the threads. Two thread are opened about it. Differences about rajam is not sectarian one. It is research and methodology. Those scholars who against it are not just in 21century. There 20th century scholars who go against it as well. But i may be derailing this thread talking about it. Please search for the thread and give your opinion. It is not about sectarian bcus there are lots of Sufis and Salafis who believe in the story of rajam. There are also few sufis and few salafis who go against it. Even Shia's theology they believe in rajam. There are ijma that need fixing doesnt mean we have to be rude when we engage them. We simply present evidence and scholarly research. For instance, 20th century scholar, Mawlana Muhammad Fazlur Rahman Ansari (ra) (d) 1974 was against rajam bcus he did not believe it was ever part of Qur'an. Anyways, this can be discussed later. My point is, if Dr. Naik does not believe rajam story does not make him any less than a scholar. Some Saudi shuyuk have given fatwa that got k-legs and against general opinion. They remained scholars still. As for the issue here, i repeat that it is very simply one i:e taking pictures etc. If we are to take ahadith that speak about not keeping pictures in the house minus opinion of scholars or fatawa, we are all guilty of it. It is only when they make fatwa that they make distinctions. But just by taking the hadith alone into consideration, those shuyuk knew they are affected by it. That's why they make "exceptions". Fatwa can be outdated. They gave fatwa base on situation in their time. Who knows tomorrow, they may enforce us to hang our ID around our neck everywhere we go?. In that case, another fatwa may be necessary and the former is outdated. For instance, in New York before 2004, it was not mandatory to carry ID. But the mayor in power enforce carrying ID in 2004. He had his reasons. It is now punishable offence if your ID is not on you unless you have valid excuse. Plus without ID, you are not allowed to purchase certain household or construction material items. My point is, some of the shuyuk fatawa are lopsided. They gave exception where it affects them or those around them. But would not hesitate to condemn outright if others try to make exceptions for themselves. This is why i narrowed down the issue to WORSHIP bcus i know muslims wont bow to them or take them as object of worship. I do this bcus the ahadith do not make exception for animated pictures as far as i know. Picture is picture whether it is hung, in your pocket in the house, on the table, still picture for background stuff on your computer and many more including taking it digitally too if we are to understand the ahadith literally without scholar's opinion. We are all guilty of this. So it is very important when we make exception to take into consideration exceptions of others in other parts of the world. Plus understand that those Saudi shuyuk could be under pressure from the govt. They are very close to govt and govt would put pressure on them to do their bidding. I know this. No be dem say. It is easy to quote Quran or hadith or have easy access to them. Easy access does not translate to TRUTH. |
lexiconkabir:Dont know what you meant by this. Also, i dont get exactly what you opposed to. Printing picture itself or?. Printing itself was invented very long ago. Around 600 A.D. woodblock printing was invented and by 740 A.D. And there is no observants of Islam that worshiped them. That's many generations and future that have gone by. Today, no muslim bow down or make printed pictures as object of worship. It's very irrational to say not to print pictures when in fact, we receive mails everyday with pictures on them. What I am opposed to is hanging it all over the house bcus I dont hang pictures. Even there is no ijma amongts jurists that you cant hang pictures. They did say it is okay if it is not large ones. Again, we have bunch of newspapers with pictures on them. It is practically impossible to avoid these things in this day and age. What a muslim dont do is to deliberately placed picture in front of them facing qibla and pray directly in front of it. but you and your friend say you can print them and keep for remembrance, how did the people of nuh started idolatry? Was it not because their ancestors kept the pictures for just REMEMBRANCE, you both think of only now, but i think of the harm it can cause in the future.Again, time is long due to proof msulims would worhsip them in the future. There is no predictive evidence of that at all. It is not imaginable at all bcus, what makes a muslim to accept islam is identifying idol worship. So printing paper has been around for far too long and there is no evidence that muslims would worship them. But if you had said: # to remove picture in the direction of qibla, # to put your identification card in your back pocket (so that it doesnt drop if you put it in front pocket), that would have made sense. And yes, whats wrong keeping picture for memory?. How do we recognize our past Ulama and present ones if not by that?. They are not just preserved in digital format but are also printed. I am quiet sure, if you dig enough in your family, someone would probably bring out picture of your great grandpa and you will be excited to see that. Again, what is haram is, placing picture directly in front of you in the direction of qibla while praying. Even those who carry pictures of their Shuyuk dont worship them. Unless if i misunderstood you, there is absolutely nothing wrong taking pics and printing them. This is wide spread practically. I have been to many homes of people and I had to make salat. They hang pictures. I simply clear qibla direction and make salat without making big deal out of it.[/quote] |
I have lost track of this thread due to approach of some brothers that i deemed "un-scholarly approach". Thanks for the mention again albaqir. You brought me back here. Now, my question to you albaqir, what do you make out of this narration quoted by brother sino?. This should have cleared the air by now, dont you think?. Whether he copied it or not is irrelevant. I like his SUNNATIC approach in this dialogue. I think you should respect that faar. sino:Ibn Abass's (RTA) understanding of the incident speaks volume. I am not saying anything here out of sectarianism but I have to defend what i think is fact base on my little research. I believe that Imam Ali (RTA) being the first Kilafah is very important to you and Shi' i movement. In that case, something which is very important like this should have been mentioned in the Quran. Not only mentioned in the Quran but should be mentioned in muhkamatun (verses that are PLAIN & CLEAR) without the need for interpretation. For instance, when Allah declared Adam as kalif on earth, He did so in muhkamatun Surah 2 verse 30: [size=15pt]وَإِذْ قَالَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ إِنِّي جَاعِلٌ فِي الْأَرْضِ خَلِيفَةً[/size] When your Lord said to the angels, “I am going to place a vicegerent on the earth,” Also, Allah said the same of Nabi Daud (AS) in Sura 38 verse 20 [size=15pt]فَهَزَمُوهُم بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ وَقَتَلَ دَاوُودُ جَالُوتَ وَآتَاهُ اللَّهُ الْمُلْكَ وَالْحِكْمَةَ وَعَلَّمَهُ مِمَّا يَشَاءُ[/size] By Allah's will they routed them; and David slew Goliath; and Allah gave him power and wisdom and taught him whatever (else) He willed. My point is, when Allah declared kilafah of Adam (as) on earth and kingdom (kilfah) of Daud and Sulaimon(AS), He did so plain and clear without a need for tawil or any confusion. He never placed them in mutashabihatun (allegorical or tawil). Why would Shia stretched verse of Qur'an to "proof" kilafah of Ali after Nabi Muhammad?. If it is that important, Allah would have Himself mentioned Ali by name plain and clear to us in the Qur'an. Since Quran is indisputable and irrefutable Book of guidance for the muslims, then, Shia can not reply heavily on narrations or ahadith (sahih or not) to proof caliphatship of Imam Ali as the first Kalif. After all, he became kalif not just as you wanted. |
Don't know why this is still issue though. It's very simple brothers. ![]() |
Sorry, i just have to post this video for illustration purposes. Watch the first 30mins. It portrays ABUSE not sanctioned by Islam. So for clarity, I am not in support of this. My position is clear as i clarified in my last post. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8lBuCyxzg The first 30mins portrays obedient wife. So whats beating her for?. |
freecocoa:It is not like that. Every religion has proof one way or the other. But their "proofs" don't amount to truth. The "proof" they have is what keeps them going. As for this case, the pastor is devoid of wisdom. Even he's sure his Jesus was the truth and powerful past juju, he's still wrong to do what he did. He is guilty of all counts if the story is true. Having knowledge without wisdom is empty. Does he think those Juju things dont have some supernatural or spiritual attachment?. Thats where he lost his wisdom. First, # he is guilty of violating place of worship # he us guilty of vandalism or attempted vandalism # he is guilty of trespassing Having mentioned the above, he is not different from boko boys. He deserved what he got and should get further punishment by Law. He has no wisdom at all. Even when God sent Moses to confront Pharaoh, he warned and exhorted Moses to preach God's words to him with respect. He advised Moses to speak softly with Pharaoh perchance he might change his evil way. Then after years of preaching, Pharaoh did not change and Moses could not get him either despite his efforts why?. Because as bad as Pharaoh was, he was good and brilliant to his mother. This is why Moses could not get him until God Himself made him to misbehave to his mother. That was the beginning of his end. The moment he started misbehaving to his mother and became arrogant, that's when Moses had upper hand. Moral of this lesson is, Pastor has no idea how good the juju worshipper could be on the other side. For that reason God Himself aided his juju to shame the pastor. Not because juju itself works or is the truth but bcus the pastor was silly, arrogant and a tout. If muslims or the juju people were to destroy his church what would he do? |
tintingz:I understand. If you have read further in the thread i provided, you would noticed we talked about that as well. Allow me to quote myself from the thread. Empiree:So from my write up, it is clear there is nothing wrong taking pictures from device and posting it on internet.[size=15pt] What is wrong is posting INAPPROPRIATE/NUDE pictures online.[/size] If taking picture from your device and posting it on fb is haram, then, how about many muslims we see online with their pictures attached. So there is nothing wrong posting your pictures online unless if you are concern about security. |
You might have answered yourself in your op but see if there is anything you can find here https://www.nairaland.com/2466331/pictures-haram-stop-snapping-pictures |
OlajumokeBread:Sounds like you live in Disney world |
lexiconkabir:
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lexiconkabir:You may never want to buy anything (if you live in the US) if you think about exchange rate. |
lexiconkabir:A bit expensive at local stores. I buy each for $5 |
Habiodunz:U did not know that?. He didnt hide his atheism. You just finding out now? |
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Rilwayne001:It is luck I guess. |
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MUSK is better Better to stay away from those perfumes sold at supermarkets or Made In Paris stuff
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plappville:Honestly, there is no sense trying to reason with you bcus you are unreasonable. Now, I am not really interested in those raising placards. But what you need to understand is, "CAUSE & EFFECT" What we witnessing are the effects of COLONIALISM. Notice that most of these placards activities usually take place in Europe. Cause is, Britain and France had their giant shares of robbery. They stole and robbed third world nations. They stole their system of govt, resources etc You notice that all African and non African third world countries like Pakistan and India have similar system of govt, school and many other things. The British and France FORCED down their ways on these countries. That was the cause. The effect is what you seeing now. But you are free to keep posting silly photos to make yourself feel better. This is just tips of iceberg.
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mmsen:So what happens to "love" and "forgiveness" in Christianity then if someone has evil past but embrace Christianity later? |
Rilwayne001:Snakes definitely have some advantages in our world. I have always dislike them from childhood. If we are to kill these species we are going to suffer lots of consequences. See how Demmy handsomely described advantages of insects/flies?. Yet, having too much insects can cause problems for human. Everything has a balance. Without balance, things would fall apart. I guess i hate snakes cus of their natural predatory behaviors. Yet their natural predatory behaviors are also extremely valuable to humans. Many snake species prey heavily on insects and rodents. When snake populations decline the populations of these prey items increases, often causing serious problems to people. Many of us have a natural aversion of snakes, while many others simply hate them. However, the negative stigma that surrounds snakes is completely undeserved which is quiet common in Nigeria. Snakes are in fact extremely beneficial animals to have around but I just hate having them around though. I watch Animal Planet a lot so i know they pose pros and cons to humans. Snakes are absolutely paramount to the health of many eco-systems, the environment and to biodiversity. They are extremely valuable components to the ecological communities in which they live; playing several complex roles, including that of predators and prey as long as they dont prey on me and fellow human, it's all good.Many snake species prey heavily on insects and rodents. When snake populations decline the populations of these prey items increases, often causing serious problems to people. For instance, if you have a farm, Insects and other arthropods can destroy your gardens (plants) or enter people's homes where they will be undesired. When rodent populations surge, the animals can destroy crops at an alarming rate, effecting supplies of food and industries. They can also spread many harmful diseases. It is well documented that rodents are also a leading cause of house fires, caused by the chewing of wires in walls and attics. Especially if the woods are not treated with chemical. In Trinidad for instance, it is a tropical region and they are bothered by insects. That's why in most cases they do not use wood (naggin) for their roof. They use steel. So snakes are valuable because they are efficient at keeping the number of rodents and insects in check, without relying on damaging chemical pesticides which can degrade the environment and harm other animal species. Snakes are very effective at hunting such prey because they can crawl into small burrows and other areas that rodents use as shelters. These places are too small for other predators to get into. I heard on Animal Planet that their venoms can be used to treat cancerous disease. I dont know and I can not confirm that unfortunately ![]() |
Rilwayne001:Walahi, very important. This is problem Nigerians have now. They have abandoned local "small" businesses for foreign goods. They have abandoned FARMING for OFFICE job. They have abandoned VILLAGES for the CITIES. Govt can not successfully remove recession without Nigerians doing something. If they do, it wont be long before the country plunges in another around of it. Recessions is not president's fault. Neither was GEJ was at fault. They just need to prosecute looters. Recession or Nigerian currency was victim of CENTRAL DEMOLITION by big guys. That's, the IMF, CENTRAL BANK (world) etc. The people who are in control of world economy brought it down through their scheme. So you know, there is no way any president of Nigeria can do it alone. You know i barely talked about Nigerian politics. When GEJ was in power, i used to see you and others talked a lot about his administration. I never wanted to say anything. I was just shaking my head when everyone said PMB would do better. Even GEJ had good intention but was confused. Now lesson learned so far should open our eyes that this is beyond the president. You know current administration appears tough on BH. So long as he gets tough on them, economy would barely gets better. So long as he gets tough on BH, dollar rate would jump from current #400 to $1 to #500. This is a plan that Nigerians inside Nigeria dont see. It is bigger than what you think. Return to FARM. That's where money is. I want to invest in Agriculture in Nigeria too. Oyinbo know that you have abandoned it, that's why they brought their venom (fast food, shop rite etc) to replace it. It will be difficult to return to farm now bcus you people are used to modern Supermarkets and Malls. I even heard recently that they import chicken too.?. What the heck is going on?. That should never be. Dont you have chickens in Nigeria for crying out loud?. This is sad! And the chicken imported are not halal, they are fed with chemicals etc. No wonder cancers are now rampant |
HAH:This video really answered many things we talked about lately. These men have debated the issue long before. Wuridi means Sufism or spiritual heart of Islam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Hyw6szaOw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8nntHGjxNI |
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as long as they dont prey on me and fellow human, it's all good.