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 Islam › Saum And Juu'in by Empiree(op): 1:09pm On Nov 18, 2015*. Modified: 11:47pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
What Is The Difference Between [size=30pt]جُوعٍ[/size] And [size=30pt]صوم[/size] ? Give Your Thoughts And Experiences Which Of The Two Is Comprehensive? http://imrannazir.tripod.com/islam/christ/isa.html http://www.islamicstudies.info/tafheem.php?sura=18&verse=83 |
| Islam › Re: Muslims We Should Admit ISIS Our Problem by Empiree: 4:22am On Nov 18, 2015 |
ayinba1:Bravo!!! @bolded, wooooord! No, I wont blame Muslim either. https://www.nairaland.com/2743893/did-prophet-warn-us-isis You really sound like a friend of mine. https://www.facebook.com/loveofislam |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I Condemn The Paris Attack by Empiree: 12:06am On Nov 18, 2015 |
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| Islam › Re: Did The Prophet Warn Us Of ISIS? by Empiree: 10:47pm On Nov 17, 2015*. Modified: 11:53pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Mattkent:I love this. Thanks Op, kindly allow me to rephrase this bolded part. The prophet (SAW) said: "A time would come when nothing would remain of Islam but its name. Nothing would remain of Quran but traces of its writing and Masajid (plural of masjid) would be grand structured but devoid of guidance. Ulamahu i:e the religious leaders of the people would be the worst beneath the sky (they would be the center of fitna)" When i first heard this phrases quoted some years back, my eyes turned red. JazakaAllahu Khayran 42 Likes 7 Shares |
| Islam › Re: The Calamity Of Thursday - Incident Prior To The Death Of The Greatest Prophet by Empiree: 8:15pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Please read yourself again: AlBaqir:And this, put them together AlBaqir:Your first part, you agreed he left things i:e two things, understood to mean Quran and Sunna(Sunni) OR Quran and Al-bayt(Shia) for SALVATION OF MUSLIM UMMAH. So what other thing necessary for SALVATION besides those two things? Nothing like secret message. Prophet's declarations for pen and paper was public.Since you said he supposed to write down something NECESSARY for SALVATION but he could not write it down because he was prevented from doing so, that is why Shia hate Umar(RA). So I ask what is that "secret" OTHER THAN {two things he already mentioned at the Arafat} that he was prevented from writing down after asking for "pen and paper"? 1 Like |
| Islam › Re: The Islamic Approach To HIV/AIDS by Empiree: 6:33pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
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| Islam › Re: The Calamity Of Thursday - Incident Prior To The Death Of The Greatest Prophet by Empiree: 5:48pm On Nov 17, 2015*. Modified: 6:27pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
AlBaqir:See, you didnt really say anything. Let me help you again and keep it simple - @bolded suggests that there is something [size=15pt]SO VITAL for SALVATION of the entire Ummah[/size] that the prophet(SAW) supposed to write down but he was prevented from doing so according to you. This statement appears to be in conflict with Maida 3 and 67 quoted earlier. Umar Faruq(RA) quoted to have said "Quran is sufficient for us" Here is Quran in Sura Lukman ayah 2-3 "These are Verses of the Wise Book,- A Guide and a Mercy to the Doers of Good," There is no secret or hidden document so vital and necessary for the salvation of Ummah other than Quran. Agree?. And since you agree that Umar(RA) lived and died as a Muslim- all your theory either from Sunni or Shia literature or your own are irrelevant. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Education › Re: Please Help! My Student Said She Is In Love With Me by Empiree: 3:48pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
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| Islam › Re: Fatima Bint Muhammad, The Leader Of Women Of All Worlds by Empiree: 3:25pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
daretodiffer:Lobatan! This I have told him severally but he doesn't get it. Thanks for your understanding. 1 Like |
| Islam › Re: Fatima Bint Muhammad, The Leader Of Women Of All Worlds by Empiree: 3:08pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
daretodiffer:Thanks. Perhaps you could see I tried to avoid this thread. This is non issue to me either. But sometimes it's necessary to challenge the brother for saying things dispeakable about Aisha(ra) and Sahaba (first 3 imams - RA). I never wanted to get on sectarian talks but it looks like he's so much interested. Please visit his other threads opened few days ago to confirm what I'm saying. It's unhealthy to be arguing over sectarian issues especially in this day and age where muslims are at the center of every bad news. 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I Condemn The Paris Attack by Empiree: 1:10pm On Nov 17, 2015 |
Demmzy15:Graphic pictures like this should be automatically restricted by spam bot. It should be in violation of rules and regulations #5. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I Condemn The Paris Attack by Empiree: 2:30am On Nov 17, 2015 |
plappville:Your fellow christian said this while you rant shamelessly on nl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW7gqO5i--w |
| Islam › Re: Muslims We Should Admit ISIS Our Problem by Empiree: 11:44pm On Nov 16, 2015*. Modified: 4:32am On Nov 18, 2015 |
A Sheikh once said in his 2001/02 lecture in Sydney Australia. His intelligence analysis based on Quran and Hadith was very correct. He said with respect to "Arab uprising" or "Arab spring", that it was a sinister, domino effect, an event that would culminate the rise of funded fanatics by the very same people who pretend to fight them. That their atrocities in the name of Islam would be so brutal and would pose "threats" to Israel; and Israel would scream to the world to get rid of "Islamic menace". He gave this lecture long before Arab spring. When Arab uprising finally came about around 2011, i know right there those ahadith he cited are authentic. Now, here today, folks with indomie brain are screaming 'Islamic terror' pose great threat to humanity. Indeed, that analysis was correct. Yes, there are some cooked up conspiracy theories out there. That dont bother me a bit. But make no mistake, there are bunch of Muslim organizations who condemn this nonsense every time it happens. They are all tired of it. Myself is not left out. Unfortunately, either we protest or condemn this things, it will not stop anything. The Last Age has kicked. Ahadith of End Time are in effect. Nothing is going to stop it. These ahadith speak of conspiracies against this Deen. Just pray that we dont get to be victims of this bs. The folks responsible for all these atrocities are mentioned in Sura Khaf 94 [size=20pt]قَالُوا يَا ذَا الْقَرْنَيْنِ إِنَّ يَأْجُوجَ وَمَأْجُوجَ مُفْسِدُونَ فِي الْأَرْضِ[/size] 1 Like 1 Share |
| Islam › Re: Umar Ibn Al-khattab: His Contributions In The Battles Of Islam by Empiree: 8:15pm On Nov 16, 2015*. Modified: 2:53am On Nov 17, 2015 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: I Condemn The Paris Attack by Empiree: 7:19pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
| Islam › Re: The Calamity Of Thursday - Incident Prior To The Death Of The Greatest Prophet by Empiree: 4:58pm On Nov 16, 2015*. Modified: 10:44pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Bismillah. This fallacy about the incident of Calamity of Thursday and the so-called “incident of the pen and paper” is laughable sometimes. It devoids of common sense as well. First, I don't care what's recorded in the so called Suhih books. We need to apply simple logic to neutralize falsehood. Qu'ran speaks (Verse 5:67): "O Messenger (Muhammad SAW)! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord. And if you do not, then you have not conveyed His Message. Allah will protect you from mankind. Verily, Allah guides not the people who disbelieve." And also 5:3 "This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion." So if prophet(SAW) is commanded to convey the message of his Lord, how on earth would anyone stopped him from delivering the message?. This story of pen, whether in Sunni or Shia literature is nothing but utter rubbish. It just doesnt make any sense. And the Shia go as far as saying that "message" that was necessary for the salvation of the ummah was blocked by a companion. If the message was so vital and was not convey because Umar faruq(RA) blocked the prophet(SAW) from writing down the so called Will, does that mean the prophet did not obey Allah as mentioned in Maida 67 ?. Astagfurllah! The so called secret, according to Shia is vital for the Ummah salvation. But "secrets" usually relate with Sufism is not. Secrets as many Sufis are fond of has to do with "extended knowledge" or "spiritual growth" of individual NOT general salvation of the Ummah. For instance, Quran does not mention the age of Isa/Musa alaiyim salaam. Different Sufi Shuyuk may come up with their theory. Some may say he's 33, 30 29,80 100 etc. This has nothing to do with our salvation. Spot the difference?. Vital information needed for SALVATION of Muslims are in the ayat muhkamat (PLAIN & CLEAR) and every muslim understands that, it's SHIRK, - DOS & DONTS. There is nothing secretive in that. I just believe that the Shia propagandists make a big fuss over the so-called “incident of the pen and paper” or what they ominously refer to as “Black Thursday”. The Shia exaggerate about the Hadiths on this topic, and use them as some sort of proof against Umar ibn al-Khattab. However, the truth of the matter is that these claims are nothing but the melodramatic antics of the Ghullat gossipers who seek to make a mountain out of an anthill. Here is An Overview of the Incident of the Pen and Paper The Prophet’s last illness before his final departure from this world lasted around two weeks. During this time, the Prophet’s condition gradually deteriorated and he became bedridden. He experienced a high grade fever, severe headaches, and even fainting spells, slipping into and out of consciousness. The so-called “incident of the pen and paper” occurred four days before the Prophet’s death, on a Thursday. The Prophet asked for a pen and paper in order to write down some religious advice for the Muslims. However, immediately after asking for the pen and paper, the Prophet fainted and became unconscious. While the Prophet lay unconscious, a man got up to get the pen and paper, but Umar ibn al-Khattab called him away from doing that. Umar felt that they should not bother the Prophet by asking him to write down religious advice, but rather they should allow the Prophet to regain consciousness, get some rest, and recuperate. Therefore, Umar said to the other Muslims: “The Prophet is seriously ill and you have the Quran; so the Book of Allah is enough for us.” Umar ibn al-Khattab thought–and rightfully so–that the request for a pen and paper no longer applied now that the Prophet had fainted. Instead of getting the pen and paper, Umar felt that they should allow the Prophet to rest. However, some of the Sahabah felt that they should get the pen and paper anyways, and that they should implore the Prophet to write for them; these people said: “Bring him (the writing material) so that Allah’s Messenger may write a document for you and you would never go astray after him.” Secret? Some of the Sahabah felt that they should let the Prophet rest and ask him for religious advice later; others felt that they should have the Prophet write immediately after he came back to consciousness. This led to a dispute amongst the Sahabah, and they began arguing loudly. It was then that the Prophet awoke from his state of unconsciousness, amid loud noises and great clamor. The Prophet had a splitting headache, so this racket upset him greatly. It was due to this loud bickering that the Prophet told those in the room to “go away” and to leave him alone. " It is amazing how much drama these propagandists can create, and how easily they can misguide people with this fallacy^. The explanation to this event is so simple and straightforward that it is very strange that the Shia do not understand this! All that we must do is ask the Shia to correlate the event to their own lives, which more often than not makes impotent their arguments. Ask a Shia for example if he would tolerate a man cursing his wife, and he would say no; then we wonder why they themselves curse the wife of the Prophet! Likewise, when it comes to the incident of the pen and paper, we ask them to correlate the event to their own lives. Let us consider the following scenario: a teacher is giving a lesson to his student, and he asks his student to bring a piece of chalk to write with on the chalkboard. But then the teacher faints and collapses. Now tell us: is the student going to walk outside the room to find the piece of chalk? Would any sane person do that? Instead, the student would quickly rush to the teacher’s side, try to resuscitate him, bring him a pillow, raise his legs, etc. Now, when the teacher regains consciousness, would the student immediately thrust the chalk into the teacher’s hand and say “teach us!” Surely not! Instead, the school nurse would be rushed into the room, the teacher would be transported to the medical unit, and the teacher would be given a medical leave for the day in order to rest. Even if the teacher insisted that he was feeling better and that he could resume the lesson, the others would convince the teacher that he should take the day off and rest instead. " Here is one solid typical example: In the last days of Ayatollah Khomeini’s final illness which lasted eleven days during which he was hospitalized. His Shia followers emptied out his hospital room and did not trouble him with the concerns of the state. No man was allowed to disturb him or pester him, even though the political situation at the time very much required the input of the country’s leader. How is it then that the Shia would like their Ayatollah Khomeini to be treated with more courtesy than the Prophet of Allah? Surely the Prophet is superior to any Ayatollah, and if the Ayatollah should not be disturbed during his final illness, then surely we are even more cautious with the Prophet of Allah. To give a simple everyday example, if a man asks his son to give him the T.V. remote, but has a heart attack immediately after saying that, then the son would think that the heart attack takes precedence over and cancels the request for the remote. Instead of giving the remote, the son would rush to his father’s side. Common sense dictates that the Prophet’s request for the pen and paper does not apply any more, as the fact that he fainted takes precedence over that request. If the Prophet was in good health, and asked for a pen and paper but the people refused him, then that situation would be different. But here, the Prophet fainted after his request and that changed the situation altogether. This is such a straightforward matter that it sometimes boggles the mind how the Shia can create so much outcry over this so-called “incident” of the pen and paper. Anyone who was in Umar ibn al-Khattab’s shoes would have said the same thing as he did, evidenced by the many everyday examples cited above. Umar’s Concern for the Prophet’s Well-being During his final illness, the Prophet suffered from severe pain, an intense fever, splitting headaches, and fainting spells. In spite of his medical condition, the Prophet of Allah was an altruistic individual who did not care about himself, but rather his attention was still focused on guiding the Muslim Ummah. From a medical standpoint, the Prophet was recommended strict bed-rest and a tension free environment. Instead of following this, however, the Prophet was adamant about helping the Muslim Ummah, even if it worsened his own condition. We read: Despite his illness, the Messenger of Allah was not distracted from his command of Allah and the defense of His religion. (Tareekh al-Tabari, Vol. 9, p.167) In the same book, Tabari writes how the Prophet organized military expeditions from his deathbed. There were times in the last few days when the Prophet was barely able to talk but he would still instruct his generals, ordering them on military campaigns against the false prophets (Tulayhah, Musaylimah, etc.) and apostate renegades in Yamaamah, Yemen, etc. Not only did the Prophet provide military instructions, but he also gave religious advice. The Muslims would come to the bedside of the Prophet, asking him for advice, which the Prophet would give despite his intense pain. Umar ibn al-Khattab was the Prophet’s father-in-law, and as such, he too was very worried about the Prophet’s health and wellbeing, more so than the Prophet was worried about himself. In his final few days, the Prophet was having a difficult time talking, for it caused a great deal of pain to do that. We read: When the Apostle’s illness became severe, he (i.e. a Sahabi) and the men came down to Medinah and he went into the Apostle(’s house) who was unable to speak. He (the Prophet) began to lift his hand towards heaven and then bring it down upon him, from which he (the Sahabi) knew that he (the Prophet) was blessing him (the Sahabi). (Ibn Ishaq, Seerah Rasool-Allah, p.680) 4 Likes 3 Shares |
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| Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 8:11pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
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| Islam › Re: Umar Ibn Al-khattab: His Contributions In The Battles Of Islam by Empiree: 7:07pm On Nov 15, 2015*. Modified: 10:31pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
^ I dont take that personal. See, this is what i am saying. This is fitna albaqir is causing here. Enough said now. Muslims dont act like this. I am not Sufi. I basically look into different literature and learn from them. And by sufism, am not even referring to sufi sect. Rather in the context of Quran itself, that is, Ihsan. Nothing more. But what you do here albaqir, you just open door widely for criticism of Shia and it innocent adherents. I have Shias around Sunni masjid i frequent and they dont in way startup conversations like yours. This is very unfortunate brother. Bro kazlaw also warned you earlier but you snubbed. Just because we dont want to engage you on this thread does not in anyway means we are weak. We eschewed for Islam's sake. I even posted video and videos' link, perchance, you would think twice but you went ahead anyway. If you feel like talking or opening a thread for any reason, wouldn't be better to keep silent rather startup sectarian strife?. I would disagree with mrolai that this is typical of Shia. It is just him(baqir and maybe some few others) and any muslim can act like that as well. In this day and age, the last thing we do is vilifying one another when we are at the center stage of every bad news. |
| Islam › Re: Umar Ibn Al-khattab: His Contributions In The Battles Of Islam by Empiree: 5:01pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
MrOlai:I dont think you get it. I have always stood firm supporting companions(RA). But what you brought up is not in line with that. I have confronted baqir in the past and called him misguided for calling the companions usurpers. But what you brought up is irrelevant to the borne of contention. Shia are basically muslims. Their hate for the companions does not make any less muslims. It would be wrong to castigate all of them. When it comes to some of their practices that are not islamic or wild doctrines, I simply against it. I can not defend Sunni for what you posted earlier which is what user.mane commented on. I think you should understand better than that. When it comes to this thread, I can never support albaqir. He knows that long ago. It is not about being here and there. Shia are muslims with some twisted ideology that dont impress me. On this thread, op is very wrong. I have said that it is mere hatred for the companions and it will never end until the return or Imam Mahdi or Isa Ibn Maryam(AS). |
| Politics › Re: Paris Attacks Celebrated In The Arab Muslim World. by Empiree: 4:43pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
parisbookaddict:No no no, baby. I didnt call you 'sociolist'. That word doesnt describe you at all. I called you [size=25pt]sciolist[/size] . Sciolist is a person who pretends to be knowledgeable and well informed. Which means you have no iota knowledge of Islam. Just periphery you know. You can go back to that thread you opened early this yr where i used the word 'sciolist' to describe you. Dont misrepresent me, please. |
| Islam › Re: Umar Ibn Al-khattab: His Contributions In The Battles Of Islam by Empiree: 3:48pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Mrolai, I don't think you should drag it to that level. Just stick to his subject matter. I hate to involve in a subject where both sects are actually guilty of the same crime. I told you before that sunni (minority) also guilty of "misyar" identical to muta marriage but it's basically practiced in Arabian peninsula. Unfortunately I can't defend baqir if you continue to bring this up because he started this unnecessary criticisms of the first 3 imams. I could engage him and trash everything in his op and subsequent posts but ain't get his time. |
| Islam › Re: In Islam, All Diseases Have Cure, Get Cure For Yourself by Empiree: 2:23pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
DikSin:iya baba?. Alhamdulilah, she passed away peacefully in her home some yrs back. Don't you have sense? . Don't you have decorum? . You know you really don't have to comment on this thread. It's not by force. Pls don't derail. Thanks |
| Islam › Re: In Islam, All Diseases Have Cure, Get Cure For Yourself by Empiree: 2:22pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
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| Islam › Re: In Islam, All Diseases Have Cure, Get Cure For Yourself by Empiree: 12:58pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
DikSin:Afala taqilun?! 1 Like |
| Islam › Re: Umar Ibn Al-khattab: His Contributions In The Battles Of Islam by Empiree: 12:52pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
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| Islam › Re: Umar Ibn Al-khattab: His Contributions In The Battles Of Islam by Empiree: 12:50pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
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| Islam › Re: In Islam, All Diseases Have Cure, Get Cure For Yourself by Empiree: 3:40am On Nov 15, 2015 |
Nice one. Keep it going |
| Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 1:28am On Nov 15, 2015*. Modified: 5:15am On Nov 19, 2015 |
| Islam › Re: Testimonies: To Give Or Not To Give by Empiree: 10:39pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
humm, I thought op was getting better. Inna lilai waina ilai rojiun 1 Like |
| Islam › Re: Is Walimot Tul Quran Compulsory ? by Empiree: 9:29pm On Nov 14, 2015 |
dragnet:Now you talk sense. You can at least rationalize unlike your brother in the same ideology who quickly termed it bid'ah and haram. No one says it's part of the Deen. It is just one of the many activities that promote islam, strengthens Iman of muslims and brings about non obligatory activity. That's just it. 1 Like |
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