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 Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 12:40pm On Nov 12, 2015*. Modified: 8:20pm On Nov 12, 2015 |
| Islam › Re: Fatima Bint Muhammad, The Leader Of Women Of All Worlds by Empiree: 9:00pm On Nov 11, 2015 |
Albaqir: # As per slander against Aisha, Allah never side hypocrisy and injustice. The exoneration is necessary for the status of the Prophet, Islam and Aisha herself. This put a stop to the false campaign of the Munafiq, among whom were the companions of the Prophet themselves.in another word you are saying the accusation against her by hypocrites was true despite clear exoneration by ayat of Quran? http://quran.com/24/11-25 The incident is detailed in this Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 5.462 Narrated by Aisha Allah Subhanah revealed the Ayat in the defense of Hadrat Aisah (r.a.) in Surah Nur verses 11-25. The particular incident here occurred on the return from the expedition to the Bani Mustaliq, A.H. 5-6. When the march was ordered, Hadhrat Aisha was not in her tent, having gone to search for a valuable necklace she had dropped. As her litter was veiled, it was not noticed that she was not in it, until the army reached the next halt. Meanwhile, finding the camp had gone, she sat down to rest, hoping that some one would come back to fetch her when her absence was noticed. It was night, and she fell asleep. Next morning she was found by Safwan, a Muhajir, who had been left behind the camp expressly to pick up anything inadvertently left behind. He put her on his camel and brought her, leading the camel on foot. This gave occasion to enemies to raise a malicious scandal. The ringleader among them was the chief of Madinah Hypocrites, 'Abudllah ibn Ubai. # Aisha NEVER forgive the companions who master-minded the slander against her. In fact there are Sahih Ahadith whereby she named many of them among whom was Hassan Ibn Thabit, Prophet's poet. And obviously she had the right not to. And according to Sunni sahih hadith, her hatred of Imam Ali [alaihim salam] started when Ali advices the Prophet to ask and confirm what actually transpired [about the story of ifk] from Aisha's maid-servant. Ahadith further revealed nearly all the sahaba around then said the same.Well, it was her right if she had choose not forgive them (glad you acknowledged that) but she did unfortunately. Not only did she forgive but that the incident also highlights Aisha (RA)’s magnanimity. She did not allow the slander against her to color her judgment of the people circulating it. Hassan bin Thabit had played a prominent role in the campaign of slander against her, yet she continued to treat him with due honor and esteem. When people reminded her that he was the man who had slandered her, she replied, `…...it was he who used to rebut the anti-Islamic poets on behalf of the Holy Prophet and Islam’. Clearly, she acknowledged his service to Islam more than his role in her slander. Thus, she didn’t allow the dictates of her ego to supersede her objective judgment. We should always make excuses for our brothers and sisters when they err. That i learned from the story. Hamdun al-Qassar (one of the great early Muslims) said, “If a friend among your friends errs, make seventy excuses for them. If your hearts are unable to do this, then know that the shortcoming is in your own selves.” [related by al-Bayhaqi in ‘Shu'ab al-Eman’ (13/504) No. 10684] Jafar bin Muhammad (rh) said: “If you find see something you don’t like in a brother, try to find 1-70 excuses for him. And if you can’t find an excuse, say ‘There might be an excuse, but I don’t know it. [related by al-Bayhaqi in ‘Shu'ab al-Eman’ (10/559) No. 7991] 'A'isha reported that the Prophet (SAW) said, “Overlook the slips of respected people.” [al-Bukhari in 'Adab al-Mufrad' No. 465, al-Nasa'i in 'al-Sunan al-Kubra' (6/468) No. 7253] Ibn Abbas said: “When you feel the need to mention your companion’s faults, remember your own.” [al-Adab al-Mufrad al-Bukhari (p. 120) No. 328] DON'T BE QUICK TO BLAME OTHERS FOR MISTAKES Aisha didn't blame her Muslim brothers for leaving her behind -this shows you her noble character -when Safwan bin al-Muattal saw Aisha left behind, he said: -Inna lillahi wa inna illahi raji'oon -because this is our dua when we lose something or someone -Safwan had to decide whether to wait with her or deliver her to the Prophet (SAW) -he chose to return her to the Rasool (pbuh) and this was the better decision |
| Islam › Re: Fatima Bint Muhammad, The Leader Of Women Of All Worlds by Empiree: 7:43pm On Nov 11, 2015 |
AlBaqir:Lol.....not that I concluded per se. I wanted to not drag it. I believe Shia record in your presentation earlier, to me, it's rather verson of their tafsir. Allow Me To Quote The Hadith To Proof Further That Aisha Is Also Al-bayt Of The Prophet(SAW) Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 316 Narrated Anas: A banquet of bread and meat was held on the occasion of the marriage of the Prophet to Zainab bint Jahsh. I was sent to invite the people (to the banquet), and so the people started coming (in groups). They would eat and then leave. Another batch would come, eat and leave. So I kept on inviting the people till I found nobody to invite. Then I said, “O Allah’s Prophet! I do not find anybody to invite.” He (the Prophet) said, “Carry away the remaining food.” Then a batch of three persons stayed in the house chatting. The Prophet left and went towards the dwelling place of Aisha and said, “Peace and Allah’s Mercy be on you, Ya Ahlel Bayt!” She replied, “Peace and the mercy of Allah be on you too. How did you find your wife? May Allah bless you.” Then he went to the dwelling places of all his other wives and said to them the same as he said to Aisha and they said to him the same as Aisha had said to him. I think you should abandon your own analysis and add Aisha (ra) and all the mothers of believers (ra) to Ahlul-Bayt. In addition, Muhammad bin Ka`ba narrated: al-`Abbas sat next to some folks from Quraysh so when he did this they became silent and stopped talking, al-`Abbas then mentioned it to the Prophet (SAWS), so he (SAWS) stood and made a sermon saying: "What is wrong with some folks who talk about matters but when anyone from my Ahlul-Bayt sits next to them they stop? By HE who holds my life in HIS hand, faith shall not enter a man's heart until he loves them in Allah, and for my closeness from them." So (I also) say: Abandon that and add Abbas (ra) and the other uncles such as Ja`far (ra) and `Aqeel (ra) and al-Harith (ra) and the rest as Ahlul-Bayt.  My brother, the bottom line is Allah removed Nuh's son from his Ahl al-bayt because of his misconduct.Hadith ^ pretty much confirmed Aisha's(RA) member of household of the prophet. Imam Ali [alaihim salam] after he won the battle of Jamal, it narrated in Shi'i traditions through Sahih Sanad that some of his soldiers were demanding for War booty [which basically include the widow of their Prophet - Aisha]. Imam pretended he never heard those words. But after persistent repeatition by this soldiers, Imam answered them with a heart piercing word: "which of you will take Umm al-Mumineen as part of his share?" {'Ilal al-Sharai [Najaf: al-Maktabah al-Haydariyah; 1386H], vol.2, p.603, #69}.I really have no problem with the phrase "Umm al-Mumineen" being attributed to Aisha. I think that's because of her popularity amongst other wives. I am aware other wives of the prophet come under the title as well. As for Aisha(RA) being the leader or commander who led war against Ali(RA) in the THE BATTLE OF JAMAL (THE CAMEL) , I beg to defer a little. Yes, she did make mistake by living the house against Allah's command which she later regret. The thing is: *After Uthmân (RA) had been murdered just after the days of Tashreeq, the wives of Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wasallam had, after completing the rites of Haj just left Makkah Mukarramah on their return journey to Madinah Munawwarah. Upon receiving the news of the murder of Hazrat Uthmân (RA) they changed the direction of their journey and returned to Makkah. The Muslims at that time were in utter turmoil. Ali (RA) had taken the bay’at (pledge of allegiance) from the people of Madina and the assassins of Hazrat Uthmân (RA). He felt that it would be more appropriate to allow the turmoil and confusion to settle and thereafter avenge the blood of Hazrat Uthmân. Others however differed and thought it of greater importance to first avenge the blood of the assassinated Khalifah. *A group of senior Sahabah (RA) including Hazrat Talha and Hazrat Zubair gathered in Makkah and persuaded Aisha (RA) to use her influence as Umm-ul-Mu’mineen to help them unite the Muslims and therafter demand the requital of the blood of Hazrat Uthmân (RA). Hazrat Aisha agreed and it was decided that they would proceed to Basrah. The rest of the wives of Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wasallam refused to join Hazrat Aisha (RA) and returned to Madina. Although Hazrat Hafsah (RA) agreed with Hazrat Aisha (RA), her brother, Abdullah ibn Umar (RA) did not allow her to join the campaign to Basrah. (Summarised from Al Bidayah wan Nihayah vl.7,pg.230) *Aisha (RA) was not the leader of the army. Neither at the time of suggesting that she accompany the army did they consider making her their leader nor later during the cause of the expedition was she regarded as their leader. Hazrat Talha and Hazrat Zubair had asked her to accompany them so that she could use her influence to convince the masses of the nobility of their cause. This is why the rest of the wives of Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wasallam were also requested to accompany the expedition and Hazrat Hafsah (RA) had even accepted the request. *Neither was Hazrat Aisha (RA) intending to capture the khilafat from Hazrat Ali nor were Hazrat Talha and Zubair (RA) intending to do so. They were only demanding that the assassins of Hazrat Uthmân be brought to task. (Fathul Bari vl.3, pg.56). In fact they had barely thought of meeting the forces of Hazrat Ali (RA) on the battle field. Ibn Taymiyyah (RA) writes: “Neither did Hazrat Aisha (RA) fight (in the battle) nor did she leave (her home) in order to fight. She had only intended to create peace among the Muslims and thought that the Muslims would benefit by her leaving (for Basrah etc.) …. They did not have any intention of fighting on the day of Jamal. The battle however took place without their choice. Because when Hazrat Ali and Hazrat Talha and Hazrat Zubair (RA) had negotiated and agreed on re- conciliation and that after they had settled they would seek the assassins …. The assassins therefore feared that Hazrat Ali would agree with them (Hazrat Zubair etc.) to capture them, and they therefore captured the camp of Hazrat Talha and Hazrat Zubair (RA). They thought that Hazrat Ali had attacked them and in defence attacked the camp of Hazrat Ali. Hazrat Ali (RA) thought that Hazrat Talha and Hazrat Zubair had attacked him and retaliated in defence. The battle thus occurred without their choice. Hazrat Aisha (RA) was seated (on the camel) – neither did she fight nor did she command anyone to do so. (Quoted by Ml.Y. Ludhyanwi on th authority of “Minhâjus Sunnah” pg.185, vl. 2) *Many Sahaba(RA) expressed their dissatisfaction with her participation in the campaign. Many had written to her expressing their dissatisfaction. Hazrat Umme Salma (RA) wrote her a lengthy letter admonishing her: ” ….. Had Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wasallam known that women are able to endure (the difficulties of) jihad, he would have entrusted you! Do you not know that he (Rasulullah Sallallahu alaihi Wasallam) had prohibited you from travelling in the cities? Verily the pillar of deen neither remains firm with women nor wealth and it cannot be repaired by women if it has to crack (break). The jihad of women is the lowering of the gaze and the drawing of the hem and the intending of modesty. What would you say to Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wasallam if he has to object to some of these mistakes – sitting on a camel travelling from place to place? I take an oath that if it has to be said to me: “O Umme Salmah! Enter Jannah! I would be ashamed to meet Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wasallam while I had torn a veil (barrier) he had placed over me. Therefore make it your veil (barrier) also ….” (quoted by Mufti R.Uthmani from Al Aqdul Fareed vl.5,pg.66) *Hazrat Aisha (RA) had written a letter to Zayd bin Suhan encouraging him to join Hazrat Talha and Zubair and if he disagrees, he should dissuade the masses from joining Hazrat Ali (RA). He replied: “…. Verily I am your loyal son. If you leave and return home, (then I will obey you) otherwise, I would be the first to oppose you.” He also said: “May Allâh have mercy on Ummul-Mu’mineen. She has been commanded to stay in her home and we have been commanded to fight ….”. (Ibnul Atheer vl.3, pg.216)Hafiz Ibn Hajar (RA) narrated that after the battle, Ammar Bin Yasir (who was from Hazrat Ali’s camp) said to Hazrat Aisha (RA): “How distant is this journey from the command that was imposed on you!” (referring to the verse: ‘And remain in your homes’). She replied: “Are you Abul Yaqdhan?” He replied in the affirmative, upon which she said: “In the name of Allâh, ever since I know, you always speak the truth.” He said: “All praises are due to Allâh who has decided in my favour on your tongue.” (Fathul Bari vl.13,pg.58) *Hazrat Aisha (RA) later regretted joining the expedition to Basrah as is clear from the above narration. Later in her life she would say: “I wish I had stayed behind just as others (from the Ummahat-ul-Mumineen and many Sahabah) had stayed behind ….”. (Fathul Bari vl.13,pg.55) “I wish I were a fresh twig and I had not undertaken my journey …” It is narrated that whenever Hazrat Aisha used to read the verse “And remain in your homes,” she would cry so excessively that her veil would become soaked. (Quoted by Mufti R.Uthmani-Al Farooq Quarterly – Siyar A’lam un Nubala vl.8,pg.80) |
| Islam › Re: How To Get Rid Of Jinn by Empiree: 3:27pm On Nov 11, 2015 |
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| Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking My Mind, Its About (islam) by Empiree: 1:07pm On Nov 11, 2015 |
plappville: 1 Like
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| Fashion › Re: Effective Home Remedies For Hair Growth: by Empiree: 12:49pm On Nov 11, 2015 |
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| Islam › Re: Shaykh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory by Empiree(op): 3:15am On Nov 11, 2015 |
Good Talk. He Criticize The So Called Islamic Musicians For Mocking The Religion. Not That Music Is Haram But He Calls For Regulation, Moderation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3mrxEDhZME 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking My Mind, Its About (islam) by Empiree: 10:10pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
plappville:And how does your rubbish solve problems in your country?. What you doing here is not new. It has always been like that from the out-start. Even your forefathers tried but failed miserably. Your christian faith has contributed nothing to solve your country's problems and yet, you are here screaming up and down like a l*natic. Anyways, here is compilation of st*pidity going on in your country. Channel your trash there than Islam. WELCOME TO NIGERIA * Where sex is free and love is costly. * Where loosing a phone is more painful than loosing VIRGINITY. * Where, if you don't cheat on your partner, you are not sharp and smart. * Where Bathrooms have become photo STUDIO. * Where getting a GALAXY phone is greater than achieving a DEGREE. * Where yahoo boys have brighter future than graduates. * Where temples are turned into dating points. * Where worshiping God in truth & spirit is difficult. * Where lies are turned into realities. * Where ladies fear Pregnancy than HIV... * Where pizza delivery is faster than emergency response. * Where people fear thieves, robbers & BokoHaram than God... * Where people go to Church with BB chargers rather than Bible. * Where guys are scared of getting married but love to have sex... * Where we have highest number of musician due to unemployment. * Where the higher your offense the lower your punishment and vice versa... * Where the number of Churches & Mosque are more than the worshipers... * Where we say "Up NEPA" more than we say "Praise THE LORD"... * Where a school drop-out politician is Ten Times richer and more respected than a Professor... * Where unemployed youths pick up weapons to fight in support of the politicians who deprive them of employment & a good life... * Where someone who cannot speak English is given honorary Doctorate degrees. WHAT A COUNTRY!!! Oh Lord, look down from heaven and have mercy on this great nation. Let there be a great turn around. If you love this country let me see your amen as well share the post probably it will reach & touch the hearts of those that have the power of the Nation in their palms! https://m.facebook.com/946140065436653/photos/a.946143735436286.1073741827.946140065436653/1039826806067978/?type=3&source=48 2 Likes |
| Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 9:24pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
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| Islam › Re: Is Walimot Tul Quran Compulsory ? by Empiree: 9:09pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
miftaudeen:Ma sha Allah. Good to hear this. but why gathering together as if u are singingLol, stick to what you know. You never heard of doing dhikr in gathering?. You never came across ahadith supporting group dhikr?. Well, I am not surprised. It's laziness and envy that make people condemn group dhikr. And of course it is not compulsory but it has many benefits to derive from it. So maybe you may want to return to madrasa for further studies  and series of innovative kalmah u people are chanting in jamah are bidiahKalima means word. Jamah means congregation. So kindly tell me the word they chant?. How is chanting for example, La ilaha ila Allah in congregation a bid'ah? 1 Like |
| Islam › Re: Fatima Bint Muhammad, The Leader Of Women Of All Worlds by Empiree: 7:14pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
AlBaqir:Alright, I guess this is detailed enough. First, there is no indication anywhere that the son of Nuh was a polytheist (Kafir) unless you use the word "kafir" as "rejecter of truth". And he was removed from the "ahl al-bayt" of Nuh because of his bad deeds.True. But the same phrase is used for Jews as well at some point but they are non believers. Reading the story of Nabi Nuh (AS), if we put everything in perspective or proper context, it's obvious his son was a rejecter of faith. We know Nabi Nuh(AS) preached to his people for hundreds of year to no avail but handful heeded his call. In the context of Quran, his primary message was tawhid. Kufr could also mean bad deeds. Allah revealed to Nuh(AS) after he pled to Him(SWT) to safe his son: "When our command came, and the oven gushed forth, We said: "Carry a pair of every living animal and your family onto the ark except those against whom the command has been issued. (And carry) those who have believed." Very few believed (in Allah) with him.(11:40) This verse ^ indicates that Allah (SWT) had informed Nuh (AS) that he should make his family embark the ark and that all of them were not going to be saved because Allah's punishment had already been decreed for some. Nuh (AS) had earlier lost hope in his wife embracing the faith because of her kufr beliefs and regarded her to be the touchstone of the above-mentioned verse. Due to the paternal love which he harboured for his son, he expected him to board the ship and embrace the faith after benefiting from the company of the believers. Therefore Nuh (AS) made dua to Allah on behalf of his son, taking advantage of the words "your family" mentioned in the verse. Allah (SWT) did not like the deduction of Nuh (AS) by analogy without waiting for divine revelation. His son was a disbeliever and would remain in this condition. The promise of rescue was only for the believers. This request was thus not in keeping with the lofty rank of prophethood. Allah's address to Nuh (AS) was in reality not a reproach but a call to witness the reality to which he responded, acknowledged his being human and sought forgiveness. Hence this request was neither a sin nor does it contradict the sinlessness (ismat) of the messengers. Therefore divine revelation has termed it ignorance rather than sin or disobedience. Nonetheless it became apparent to Nuh (AS) that the promise of rescue was based on Iman and not family relations. Therefore he turned to his son in order to fulfil his task of dawah so that he could also be saved. Alas, the wretched son answered: [size=13pt]"I will seek refuge on a mountain which will protect me from the water."[/size] (11:43) Upon hearing this, Nuh (Alaihis Salaam) said: "Today there is no protector from the command of Allah except the one whom He has mercy on." A wave intervened and he was drowned. (11:43) My point is his son is a non believer. Hence, he was not part of al-bayt in that sense. But Hafsa and Aisha remain al-bayt to be blessed maybe not just "special" ones. No. The word "Kufr" does not necessarily mean "polytheism". In fact, according to Quran (sura Hajj), Allah uses the word "Kufr" for "ungratefulness".^^ Both obviously Allah accused both of them of the 4 charges. Quran is clear. Apologetics are just seeking various excuses.The fact that Allah revered his wives is indication of righteousness and trustworthiness but doesn't exempt them from misdeeds. We also need to review when the incident took place, is it before the verse where Allah praised prophet's wives was revealed or after. Here is the verse. The Prophet is closer to the believers than their ownselves, and his wives are as their mothers. (Qur'an: 33:6) Also remember slander against Aisha(RA), it was Allah's revelation that exonerated her. If she was all that bad as portrayed by you, i dont think she would have such high status with Allah. Even at that, Aisha forgave those who had let themselves be caught in the slander and in later years would not hear anything bad said about them. The fact that Aisha' s honor and reputation had been protected by a revelation from Allah could not be ignored by anyone, and from then on everyone was more aware of her high station with Allah. It was also during the course of Aisha's marriage with the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) that the Muslim expanded so rapidly that Mecca was eventually conquered by the Muslim army, and preparations were made for the first of the many battles that were successfully fought against the Greeks and the Persians after the letters from Muhammad inviting Heraclius and Choroes to embrace Islam and worship Allah alone had been contemptuously ignored. See Quran 24:11 First, we are not talking about Chastity here. We talk about bad deeds and deviated hearts and lack of virtues. These are what Aisha and Hafsa were accused of.Again, I iterate that despite gravity of their deeds, it is more of domestic issue. I do not think it has anything to do with interpretation of Quran. You have not provide sound evidence for that. That incident seems to come later after the prophet. So the hullabaloo btw Aisha and Ali (RA) could not have had anything to do with betraying the prophet. But their misdeeds Quran is talking about was reported variably in Quran exegeses. They gave different account of the incident since Quran does not mention exactly what it was. Ibn Khatir reported in his tafsir: [b]Indeed on one occasion, the Prophet's wives, led by 'A'isha and Hafsa, asked him for some money that he did not have for there was never one night that he lay down to sleep with any money in his possession. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) was distressed by this not because he did not have the money to give to them, but rather because it was this that apparently they desired. At this time, both Abu Bakr and Umar visited him and they found the Messenger of Allah seated, surrounded by his wives who were all silent. Abu Bakr said to himself, "By Allah, I will say something to cheer up the Messenger of Allah!' So he said, "Messenger of Allah, if I were to see the daughter of Kharija asking me for money, I would strike her on the neck!" The Messenger of Allah smiled and said, 'These ones you see around me have asked me for money." So Abu Bakr went to grab A'isha and Umar went to grab Hafsa, both exclaiming, "DO you ask the Messenger of Allah for something he does not have!" The women said, "By Allah, we would never ask the Messenger of Allah for something he does not have!"[/b] This was not the only marital problem which he experienced at this time. There was a great deal of rivalry between some of the wives and also Hafsa had told A'isha something which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had told her not to disclose because it was something which would increase the friction between the wives. Some sources say that he had told her that Abu Bakr and Umar would rule after him. In any case, he stayed away from them for a whole month, during which many of his Companions began to think either that he was going to divorce them or that he had already done so. IT is related by Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) that he went to visit the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) who was staying alone in a small upper room, in order to find out what was happening. First of all he visited his daughter Hafsa, who was weeping, and asked her if the Prophet had divorced his wives. "I don't know," she sobbed. Then he went and asked to see the Prophet. After he had been given permission to enter, Umar climbed up the ladder and into the small room: "I visited Allah's Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and he was lying on a mat. I saw down and he drew up his lower garment over him. He had nothing else on, and the mat had left its marks on his sides. I looked around at what stores Allah's Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had, and saw only a handful of barley equal to one sa' and an equal amount of mimosa leaves in the corner of the room and tanned leather bag handing nearby, and I as moved to tears. HE said, 'Ibn al Khattab, what is making you cry?' I replied, 'O Messenger of Allah, how can I not cry? This mat has left marks on your sides and I can only see what I have seen of your stores. Caesar and Chosroes are leading their lives of plenty, while you are the Messenger of Allah, His Chosen One, and look what you have!' 'Ibn al Khattab,' he answered, 'isn't it enough for you that for us there is the next world, and for them there is this world?' 'Yes,' I said. Then I said, 'O Messenger of Allah, what has happened with your wives? If you have divorced them, then truly Allah is with you, and His angels, Jibril and Mika'il, and Abu Bakr and I and the believers are with you.' And seldom have I talked like that and hoped that Allah would testify to the words that I uttered. And so it happened that the ayahs of choice were revealed: If you both turn to Allah in repentance, then that is what your hearts desire; and if you help each other against him then surely Allah Himself is his protector, and Jibril, and the righteous from among the believers, and as well as that, the angels will help him. It maybe, if he divorces you, that his Lord will give him wives who are better than you, who submit, who believe, who are devout, who are repentant, who worship, who fast, whether they have been previously married or are virgins. (Quran 66:4-5) In fact the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) never divorced any of his wives, and as we grow more aware about how they lived, may Allah be pleased with all of them, it is clear that they possessed all of the qualities of the women described in the last ayat. Perhaps this ayat served as a reminder to them, a reminder that they would remember for the rest of their days which for most of them lasted long after the Prophet's (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) death. Returning to Sayyiduna Umar's account of his visit to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) during the month of separation from his wives, Umar then asked, "O Messenger of Allah, have you divorced them?" and he replied, "No." So after talking for a while longer and how in Mecca the men tended to dominate the women, whereas in Medina the women tended to dominate the men, which is what the womenfolk from Mecca had learned to do after they had made hijrah to Medina - Umar climbed down and stood at the door of the mosque and called out at the top of his voice: "The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) has not divorced his wives!" After the month was up, the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) first went to A'isha's room. She was delighted to see him, but grew more serious when he said that some ayahs had been revealed to him which required him to put two options before her. "Do not make a hasty decision," he said, "and consult your parents first." He then recited these verses: O Prophet, say to your wives: 'If you desire the life of this world and its adornments, then come, and I will make you content, and I will release you with a fair release. But if you desire Allah and His Messenger and the abode of the next world, then truly Allah has prepared an immense reward for those of you who do good.' (Quran 33:28-29) "Is there any need to consult my parents?" replied A'isha. "Indeed I desire Allah and His Messenger and the abode of the next world." And her response was followed by all of his other wives. A'isha remained true to her word both during the lifetime of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) and afterwards. Once, when the Muslims were favored with great wealth, she as given a gift of one hundred thousand Dhirhams. She was fasting when she received the money, and distall of it to the poor and needy, even though she had no provisions in her house. Shortly after that, her maid servant said to her, "Couldn't you have brought a dirham's worth of meat with which to break your fast?" "If I had thought of it," she replied, "I would have done so!" So albaqir, I do not think what Allah accused them of had anything to do with interpretation of Quran. Read the verse again, it seems to world about worldly matters. O Prophet, say to your wives: 'If you desire the life of this world and its adornments, then come, and I will make you content, and I will release you with a fair release. But if you desire Allah and His Messenger and the abode of the next world, then truly Allah has prepared an immense reward for those of you who do good.' (Quran 33:28-29) Third, Allah says those wives (of Lut and Nuh) betrayed their husbands. This was exactly what Aisha did instigating the first civil war in Islam against Ali (alaihim salam). There are lots of Sihah ahadith where Umm salamah warned her never to participate in the war against Ali. But she refused even despite the clear verse: {And stay in your houses (O wives of the Prophet), and do not display yourselves like that of the time of ignorance}. She was obviously fighting against the tawil of the Quran (as Sihah ahadith) exposed.@ underlined, I disagree. If it was about interpretation of Quran which came much later after the demise of the prophet according to you, why would prophet secretly informed Hafsa of "interpretation of Quran" which was later divulged to Aisha. I doubt that. It must have been worldly matters as the verse suggested. Domestic? Can Deviation of heart from truth be termed "Domestic?"I think you stretched the scope of verse of Quran to include battles that occurred much later after the prophet long gone. If it was about incident that would impact Islam negatively, Aisha and Hafsa(RA) would have faced same predicaments like the wives of Nabi Nuh and Nabi Lut(AS). So her instigating Battle of Jamal where hundreds of her "spiritual sons (believers)" died is termed "aided the cause of Islam?" Emp.iree?!The battle she was accused of instigating would have to be another subject matter. I believe you mixed it up with allegation(s) the Quran levied against them. |
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Lilimax:Assuming the man was a Muslim, would you have made comment like this?. Be honest 1 Like |
| Islam › Re: Is Walimot Tul Quran Compulsory ? by Empiree: 12:19pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
miftaudeen:humm, "As-salatu" is also innovation , weiting we no go hear in the Last Age 2 Likes |
| Islam › Re: Ibliss, Shaytan, Is Not An Angel From The Begining. Is It True? by Empiree: 5:39am On Nov 10, 2015 |
Op, you have been duly answered. iblis is a Jinn. I think you get confused because of this verse (Khaf 50): And [mention] when We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam," and they prostrated, except for Iblees. [size=15pt]He was of the jinn[/size] and departed from the command of his Lord. Then will you take him and his descendants as allies other than Me while they are enemies to you? Wretched it is for the wrongdoers as an exchange. Allah(SWT) is teaching us methodology in the verse. If you only read We said to the angels, "Prostrate to Adam," and they prostrated, except for Iblees, you would conclude that Iblis was an Angel. That's pure wrong methodology. It was because of his high status was the reason he was mentioned among the Angels. 2 Likes |
| Islam › Re: Confused by Empiree: 12:46am On Nov 10, 2015 |
Op, be patient like the brother said. If orthodox tests are done and everything is fine, I'm of the opinion that Allah chose to put it on hold for the moment. Me too don't know how your friend came about his conclusion of "spiritual husband". Your wife feels different in dreams or what? . |
| Islam › Re: Fatima Bint Muhammad, The Leader Of Women Of All Worlds by Empiree: 9:03pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
AlBaqir:Special?. Never heard you say that. Aisha(RA) made lots of positive contributions towards the growth of Islam. Hence, Al-bayt , as we are ordained to send blessings on them consist of ALL muslims. Therefore, Abu Lahab is excluded. I would like to see reference to "special" al-bayt mentioned by the prophet. However, Nabi Nuh believed his biological son was part of his Ahlulbayt. And truly wasn't he? But Allah said he was not part of Nuh's Ahlulbayt because of his bad deeds. Read sura Hud for details.Yes, he was his biological al-bayt but he was not his through faith. Quran basically concerned about his faith. His son was a kafir. Allah did not say he is not part of al-bayt principally because of his bad deeds. He's rather a kafir. So being a member of Prophet's Ahlulbayt guarantees nothing. Allah only judges and elevate through Iman and Amal [faith and righteous deed].Ma sha Allah. That's just it. But Quran does not declare any of his wives kafir. Kufr would have been the first thing to take them out of the fold. And that's exactly what took Abu Lahab out despite been "al-bayt". Ma sha Allah. These are the ayah. Absolutely these ayah doesn't need any rocket tafsir. The following points are extracted easily:Glad you acknowledged it's both Hafsa and Aisha and not Aisha alone. Besides, Aisha(RA) was not the one the prophet apprised. It was Hafsa who divulged the secret to Aisha(RA). Both Shi'i ans Sunni exegesis unanimously agree. Here is the thing though, case of Hafsa and Aisha(RA) is way diffenrent from Nabi Nuh and Lut (AS). It is worthy of note, however, that some Qur’an exegeses have mentioned the names of Prophet Noah’s (as) wife and that of Prophet Lot (as) as Walihata and Wali‘ata respectively. At any rate, the two women betrayed the two eminent Prophets (as), though their betrayal did not imply deviation from the path of chastity, since none of the wives of the Prophets (as) were ever unchaste. In the same vein, it is narrated from the Noble Prophet of the Islamic faith that none of the wives of the Prophets (as) were unchaste. The betrayal of Prophet Lot’s (as) wife was that she conspired with the enemies of her husband and disclosed his domestic secrets unto them. Prophet Noah’s (as) wife acted likewise. In his Mufradat, Raghib says that betrayal (khiyana) and hypocrisy (nifaq) constitute one reality except for the fact that the former is employed against covenant and trust whereas the latter is used in religious affairs. The conformity of the story to the disclosure of the Noble Prophet’s (SAW) domestic secrets reflects that betrayal is connotes the same sense. At any rate, the blessed Verse ruins the unfounded expectations of those who imagine that their relationship with an eminent figure like the Noble Prophet (SAW) may lead to their salvation, despite their impurities and vices This very part nailed it - bolded part. Prophet was a tolerant man no matter how severe the condition is. Aisha in particular troubled the holy prophet on several occasions to the fact that her father used to reproach her and call her names. An hadith to this effect is given already on this post.You see, my point is this issue appears to be domestic one. It has little to no effect on Islamic faith itself. Otherwise, Quran would have declared them kufar like other wives. Did Nabi Nuh, and Nabi Lut divorced their wives? No! Both were still very much with their husband until Allah's punishment rained on them.But Aisha(RA) lived some 40s yrs after the demise of the prophet(SAW). She aided the cause of Islam till her last breath. Allah did not destroy her and Hafsa and there is no documented evidence to suggest she was humiliated by Allah for divulging secret unlike other prophets's wives. To my knowledge, none. In short it's an opportunity for them to retrace their bad ways. Yet Umm Mumineen Aisha never backed down. She instigated the first civil war in Islam! Mobilised a huge army and turned two Muslims group against each other. Hundreds of Muslims died.This is perhaps another topic. Muslims should never fight Muslim. This represents fitna (civil disorder) even though Aisha lost the battle. Despite losing the battle, she remains a revered and honored figure. Some Muslim feminists laud this event as an example of political intervention by a woman, countering the more widespread view that the ill-fated battle demonstrates why women should not be allowed to lead. Traditions of the prophet(SAW) appear to have surfaced after this event that are cited to deter or prevent women from exercising a leadership role. So i really dont see how this even have major impact on Islam as a whole. Remember Fatimah(RA) also quarreled with Abu Bakr(RA) till her death. Does that in anyway has any effect on Islam or diminished credibility of the two?. Allah Himself gave the example and His example are the best. Here the two wives of the Prophet were reminded of those two condemned wives despite being wives of Allah's best servants. They betrayed the trust of their husbands.I can n ot confirm authenticity of this narration. I mean by Abul Abbas Muhammad |
| Nairaland General › Re: Who Will You Give Your Seat To? by Empiree: 5:38pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
Idrismusty97:But what is the seat is "priority seat" for disabled and elderly? |
| Nairaland General › Re: Who Will You Give Your Seat To? by Empiree: 5:36pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
I would put on dark glasses, fold my arms and look down (like i don't see anybody) |
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| Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 4:09pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
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| Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by Empiree: 4:03pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
dragnet:PAIN |
| Islam › Re: Frozen Chicken/trukey Being Sold, Halal Or Not? by Empiree: 3:39pm On Nov 09, 2015*. Modified: 9:28pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
enieme:Good job, bro. We have gotta be health concious. This is exactly how they are sold in western world as well. THEY ARE NOT HALAL. If you go to supermarkets in USA, that's how they are sold. Some supermarkets have halal section (meat only). The whole idea behind this imported foods is to make the whole world One World. We already seeing this through mode of dressing, music and movie industries etc. Everyone live the same way. This is the same with food. I can guarantee you that those imported foods/meat are genetically modified. This means there will be increase in deseases, cancer especially. You should also notice that it is an attempt to get villagers, the local people to abandon remote places and flood the megacities. I'm surprised at dragnet's approach. It's true that we may eat it until we confirm is not halal. But not in this Age where you can easily obtain information. Op is very correct to be suspicious. I frequent the West and I don't buy meat at their supermarkets. I go to halal live poultry where you buy your own Chicken, Ram or Cow and slaughter them yourself or they do it cus people in charge are muslims. Make no mistake, those imported frozen chickens and turkeys are not halal unless you can proof they are from muslim countries and done halal way. If not, forget it. It's better to stick to the local food which many are not ready to go back to i:e farming. Those are natural food. The only benefit I can deduce from the stores they open in nija to compete with the West, like Shoprite is EMPLOYMENT. You better watch what you eat and especially those can food. I don't eat them. I eat at home. Meaning I prepare my own food. I seldom buy food outside unless when is absolutely necessary. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying preservative food are all bad. One should limit their consumption. 1 Like |
| Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by Empiree: 11:52pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
MrOlai:That's it. That's why unnecessary criticism of shia on this subject of mutah doesn't make sense to me. All you have to do is search net for wide varieties news articles and eye witnesses I wish I can upload a guy who made few minutes speech on it. |
| Islam › Re: Prayer For Cobweb Attack by Empiree: 10:42pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
Lol @ hollaytan, you just gave conflicting report. If yourself know for sure that cobweb attack is now common, clear logical deduction should tell you that it is real. Many have experienced it. I have listened to lectures on it. Those "Alfas" who told you that bcus sura Ankabut doesnt talk about it are simply not aware. There was a hadith narrated to this effect, i mean remedies to cure this bad omen. It's some evil among human that cast this evil on their targets. Quran doesnt have to say "cobweb" attack exists, no. Quran is speaking to men of understanding. Cobweb attack is just one of the many plots of shayateen. That's all. And the solution is adkhar. |
| Islam › Re: Prayer For Cobweb Attack by Empiree: 10:41pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
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| Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by Empiree: 10:20pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
^ mrolai, i think you missing the point. Remember we already talked about the issue of mut'ah?. This is no longer issue of shia "giving islam bad name". Both major sects are equally guilty of this. At some point, 'mut'ah marriage' was legal and there are evidences in ahadith. However, shia say it's still valid till today but Sunni objected to that. And surely i am too. But sunni ulama (majority based in Saudi arabia) allowed something called "misyar". Misyar, my understanding is there is nothing like that in Islam at all. No ahadith references. Misyar is in fact legalization of prostitution. There is a sahih hadith that zina will be legalized in he End Time but called different name. Isnt what they now called 'misyar' practiced by the very same people who scream about Shia this shia that?. Misyar is not even recognized in may muslim countries except for Arabian peninsular, Saudi especially. So, to me this is a case of The pot calling the kettle black It's no news in America's sin city aka Las Vegas, where Saudi royals frequent and parade "oloshos". Some Americans are quiet aware of this. Why is this not considered making islam look black? You see, this is why i dont like to involve in any debate or argument that I know quiet right that both parties are guilty of. I have said on various NL threads that what Sunni accused Shia of, they do the same in diff version. Same with Salafis accusing Sufi of something they themselves do differently. The whole thing about jealousy and hatred. I am telling. |
| Islam › Re: Fatima Bint Muhammad, The Leader Of Women Of All Worlds by Empiree: 9:54pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
AlBaqir:Bismillahi. We already know that union between rosullah(SAW) and sayyidina Aisha(RTA) was Divinely inspired by Allah so there is no need to go into that. A brief reference to this could be located suhih hadith Allah's Messenger (PBUH) said to me, ‘You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you.’ (Bukhari, Hadith 6495) The reason i raised this brief illustration is to basically show you that Aisha(RA) could not have been misguided unlike the wives of Nabi Lut and Nabi Nuh(AS). Hence, Aisha is part of al-bayt. Regarding Sura al-Tarim, The chapter begins, 1. O Prophet! Why do you forbid that which Allah has made lawful to you, seeking to please your wives? And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Gracious. 2. Allah has already ordained for you the absolution from your oaths. And Allah is your Guardian and He is the Omniscient, the All-Wise. In many different occasions of Revelation have been mentioned for the first blessed Verse, though it is certain that the Noble Prophet (SAW) had different wives and at times he was entangled with their envious conducts and waived his lawful rights in order to please all of them. Although such proscriptions were personal matters, but as the Noble Prophet has been the role model of the society, the possibility exists that others may feel that it is a religious decree and they have to act upon it. Thus, God Almighty warns His Prophet (SAW) against it and in fact makes people understand that such conducts were the Noble Prophet’s (SAW) personal affairs they are not supposed to be regarded as standards for others. It is incumbent upon us to bear in mind to prioritize our affairs. Acting upon one’s oaths bears significance, but acting upon religious decrees bears further significance. An eminent figure like the Noble Prophet of the Islamic faith (S) does not solely belong to himself, but he belongs to the Muslim society in its entirety and to the world of humanity.Therefore, even though certain plots, however insignificant, be hatched against him, are not to be neglected as his prestige is not supposed to be taken lightly and such plots should be dealt with seriously and decisively. The opening Verses of the blessed Chapter in question reflect the Divine Decisiveness against such incidents threatening His Messenger’s (SAW) prestige. Verses 3-4: Remember when the Prophet disclosed a secret of to one of his wives, then she divulged it and Allah made it known to him. He informed him of a part thereof and left the other part. When the Prophet told let his wife know of it, she asked: "Who told you this secret?" He replied: "The Omniscient, the All-Aware Allah apprised me of it." If you two turn in repentance to Allah, it will be better for you, since your hearts have turned away from the truth, but if you conspire against him, you may not achieve anything. Then, verily Allah is his Protector and Gabriel and the righteous believers, and furthermore, the angels are his helpers. It is saying that Prophet (SAW) disclosed a secret of his to some of his wives, but she failed to keep the secret and divulged it. God Almighty apprised His Messenger (SAW) of such disclosure and he apprised his wife of some of the intelligence and refrained from informing her of the rest. Now, what was the secret of which some of his wives were apprised? The secret consisted of two points, firstly eating honey before his wife Zaynab, the daughter of Jahsh and secondly prohibiting himself from eating honey in future. The wife who divulged the secret was Hafsa who upon being informed of the secret, she divulged the secret to ‘À’isha. Upon being apprised of the disclosure of the secret through Divine Revelation, he informed Hafsa of some of it but refrained from informing her of it all to prevent her from being ashamed. The first part might have consisted of eating honey and the second part might have consisted of the prohibition as per which he refrained from eating honey in future. At any rate, upon informing Hafsa of the disclosure of the secret, she inquired about the source of intelligence. He replied that God Almighty, the All-Wise, had informed him of the disclosure. The blessed Verse in question reflect that some of the wives of the Noble Prophet (S) disturbed him by their words; further, they lacked the merit of keeping secrets which is one of the qualifications of a loyal wife. On the contrary, the Noble Prophet’s (SAW) conduct was so magnanimous that he even did not apprised her of the whole intelligence, but merely alluded to some part of it. it is narrated from the Commander of the Faithful, Imam ‘Ali (as), as saying: "Magnanimous people never to the extreme in obtaining their own rights, since God Almighty says that the Noble Prophet (S) apprised her of some of the intelligence and refrained from informing her of its entirety." There is no doubt that the matter is not ordinary or trivia one that when the Holy Prophet said something to his wives they would retort to Him, why was it given so much importance that in the Qur'an Allah administered a severe warning directly to the wives themselves? And why did Hadrat 'Umar take it as such a grave matter that first he reproved his own daughter, then visited the house of the other wives and asked them to fear the wrath of Allah?. And, about all, was the Holy Prophet (upon whom be peace) also so sensitive that he would take offense at minor things and become annoyed with his wives, and was he, God forbid, so irritable that once having been annoyed at such things he had severed his connections with all his wives and retired to his private apartment in seclusion?. If a person considers these questions deeply, he will inevitably have to adopt one of the two views in the explanation of these verses either on account of his excessive concern for reverence for the holy wives he should not at all mind if a fault is imputed to Allah and His Messenger, or else he should admit in a straightforward way that at that time the attitude and behavior of these holy wives has actually become so objectionable that the Holy Prophet (upon whom be peace) was justified in becoming annoyed over it, and more than that, Allah Himself was justified that He should administer a severe warning to the wives on their unseemly behavior and attitude. [size=13pt]Conclusion:[/size] Not Only Hafsa And Aisha Were Accused The fault did not lie only with Hadrat 'A'isha and Hadrat Hafsah but the other wives also had some share in it. That is why, after them, all the other wives too, have been warned in this chapter. No light has been thrown on the nature of the error in the Qur'an. However, some details are found in the Hadith. I[i]n Bukhari, a tradition has been reported from Hadrat Anas, saying that Hadrat 'Umar said: "The Holy Prophet's wives because of their mutual envies and rivalries had utterly displeased him. At this I said to them: It may well be that if the Holy Prophet divorced you, Allah would give him in your place better wives than you. " Ibn Abi Hatim has, on the authority of Hadrat Anas, reported the statement of Hadrat Umar in these words: "I was informed that a discord had been created between the Holy Prophet (upon whom be peace) and his wives. At this I went to each of them and asked them to refrain from vexing the Holy Prophet; otherwise Allah would give him in their stead better wives than them selves. So much so that when I went to the last of them (and according to a tradition of Bukhari, to Umm Salamah), she said to me: O `Umar, is not the Holy Prophet (upon whom be peace) himself enough to admonish his wives? Then why should you come out to counsel them? This made me quiet, and after this Allah sent down this verse.'[/i] In Muslim, Hadrat `Abdullah bin 'Abbas has related that Hadrat 'Umar said to him: "When the Holy Prophet (upon whom be Allah's peace) separated himself from his wives, I went to the Mosque and found the people worried and upset and playing with pebbles and saying to one another: 'The Holy Prophet (upon whom be peace) has divorced his wives.' After this Hadrat `Umar related his visiting the apartments of Hadrat 'A'ishah and Hafsah and admonishing them. then said: I went before the Holy Prophet (upon whom be peace) and said: Why do you feel upset with regard to your wives? If you divorce them, Allah is with you, all the angels and Gabriel and Michael are with you, and I and Abu Bakr and all the Believers are with you. I thank Allah that seldom has it so happened that I said a thing and did not have hope from Allah that He would testify to what I said. So, after this these verses of Surah At-Tahrim were sent down. Then I asked the Holy Prophet: Have you divorced your wives'? He said: No. Thereupon I stood at the entrance of the Mosque and announced in a loud voice: The Holy Prophet has not divorced his wives." The traditions related in Bukhari from Hadrat Anas and in Musnad Ahmad from Hadrat 'Abdullah bin `Abbas, Hadrat 'A'ishah and Hadrat Abu Hurairah say that the Holy Prophet had pledged to remain away from his wives for a month and he retired in seclusion to his apartment. When 29 days passed, Gabriel carne and said; "You have fulfilled your oath: a month has come to completion." The narration ^ also teaches us a very important lesson about scolding ("doraba"  one's wife. But I am not going there.For the fact that prophet did not divorce his wives suggests they were forgiven. This is contrary to the way you portrayed Aisha being misguided and dubious like the wives of Nuh (AS). Their only punishment was the he(SAW) separated from them for number of days and called it off thereafter. It's not for me to say Aisha(RA) was evil or misguided. I am not a scholar to this effect. Besides, she narrated some over 2000 ahadith most if which are credible. This betrayal" was not in the sense that they had committed an indecency but in the sense that they did not follow the Prophets Noah and Lot on the way of faith but sided with their enemies against them. Ibn 'Abbas say: “No Prophet's wife has ever been wicked and immoral The betrayal of these two women in fact was in the matter of faith and religion: they did not acknowledge the religion of the Prophets Noah and Lot. The Prophet Noah's wife used to convey news about the believers to the wicked of her people, and the Prophet Lot's wife used to inform the immoral people about those who visited him in his house. "(Ibn Jarir). I think I should open a thrread on this subject but I am not sure if i can at this time. |
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| Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by Empiree: 5:21pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
HAkorehdeh:Wooooow, thats profound @bolded. No doubt I get what you saying believe me. I seldom mute too but it's necessary to voice when it absolutely essential. And thanks for the compliment 1 Like |
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| Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by Empiree: 3:40pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
HAkorehdeh would just hit "Like & Share". He doesn't give a fig leaf @albaqir, I guess that's sunni's norms and regulations. I personally see no issue with that. The whole idea of the meanings of those arabic phrases boiled down to "PEACE BE UPON THEM". This English translation just sums up the whole things. I can understand arabic meanings depth variably. |
| Islam › Re: An Educative Debate Between Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal And The Shi'a by Empiree: 2:38pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
Lol, Mrolai, anytime you start to go gugu-gaga on Shia's practices, you don't usually complete the task before you jump on another one. Does that mean you don't have enough resources to put up with AlBaqir  Anyways, I think you, mr fundamental, a self proclaimed "sheikul-islam" of NL and albaqir should observe what hollaytan said up there. But I understand the pressure though. 1 Like |
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