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I dont know why some are still arguing on Molud. There have been debates on this for decades or centuries. Also there is no doubt that trusted and learned Shuyuk(p. shaykh) of the past had no problems with this gathering called Molud. There are also trusted/learned Shaykhs who dont celebrate it.

Fact remains that rigidity does not solve anything. Indeed there is no absolute proof from Quran wa Sunnah (except traits) sanctioning molud or declaring Molud bid'ah. By sanctioning I meant where prophet(SAW) said "my birthday should be celebrated". By bid'ah i meant where Quran or hadith says "molud nabiy is bid'ah or haram". Merely saying it's bid'ah because it was not practiced by the prophet or sahaba" is too literal.

Question to those who say it's bid'ah, where will you be on the day of Molud Nabiy? clubbing, your girl friend's visit, soccer field?, the list goes on. You should be questioning what exactly is done within not the concept. Have you ever been to molud and didnt learn anything?. Nothing is done therein except praising Allah and His messanger....discussion on seerat nabiy (saw)etc. How's that bid'ah?. The concept is within shariah unless and except if some trespass (abuse).

Molud is one part of what is revolving.....

"And I am a salafi as long as salafiyya refers to holding to the Sacred Law with practices based on what is flexible and evolving rather than that which is rigid and narrow." - Sheik Adam(r)

Solution: Molud is not forced on anyone. While those people celebrate molud and you are not invited but you show up shouting "bid'ah" "bid'ah" "bid''ah".....honestly, you need to be shipped out faster than federal express because you constitute nuisance and agent of fitna.

It's fine if you consider it bid'ah but dont tell others not to celebrate it. In Molud there is nothing like "happy birthday to you muhammad, hbd to you" rubbish.

usermane:
Oh no, please control your feeling and chose your words carefully. I am educating people on Shari'ah and the danger it poses, let 's not hurt anyone 's feeling. Thank you.

Why did you correct him?. Didn't you give him platform for his rubbish in the name of 'reforming islam'.

whats the point of breaking walls. Owner didn't figure out his/her architectural drawings beforehand?.

I heard that breaking up walls in order to layout conduit weakens the wall. How true is this?

[quote author=slyfox5555 post=29379238]Empiree

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You seem to have a hard time comprehending.

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You are

CAIR doesn't speak for all Muslims in America,

Fact remains that they represent muslims NOT muslim.

certainly not me.

Good. You. Run to oyinbo when you get into trouble

If CAIR and or it's members is found guilty of breaking the laws of the land then yes. So far, several of it's members have been indicted and convicted.

still irrelevant and in circle. So far, US doesnt have problem with them, you are.

Will I send my kid to a school where the principal is a terrorists? NO

Again, i dont need Phd to figure out you have problems with CAIR. This statement of yours is very gross as a "muslim".
https://cair-ny.org/

Macelliot:
Mad man

With all those nonsense pix up there, you shouldn't be talking. You should....

Ha ha ha ha "British people are so dumb". She got Jinn in her car. Her name is "jinmac"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vupgBykQnko

slyfox5555:
So, if I had a problem with Isis, I should call Isis HQ in Syria abi?

Okay good. By your response, you suggested that you have problems with CAIR. So go to them rather than vexing your anger on net. Fair enough?

Quick question, do you want CAIR as representative of muslims in America to be indicted, tried, convicted and shut?

abdulmaheer, i think from your epistles, it is referring to rigid and literal interpretation of islam in modern time which is prevalent. It does not penetrate Islam. My thought though. And also those clowns waging their bogus j/i0h'a./d and declaring their bogus caliphate.

Spot on Albaqir. I dey ya back

As always, maclatunji loves this sentence. He's being saying that since 1960CE he loves it

If you leave that which is doubtful altogether, you will not need such an epistle in its defence. Do you have some valid points? Yes.

Does leaving that which is doubtful superceed your valid points? Yes.

That is what we should emphasize.

onegig, on bowing, my understanding of that is every joint used for worship of Allah is not to be used for anyone else. Like women kneel in Yoruba-land. Men lay down. Not necessarily act of worship but act of respect. Allah ordered Angels to bow down to Adam(as) Kahf 50. Bowing is not act of ibaadat to Adam. Overall, i still agree that joints for worship of Allah should preserved for Him only. I just dont think i can hand shake my parents or elders in nigeria. They will tell me "omo komo ni e"
I remember when i first went to ilorin in the 90s for college, I lied down (semi) before my landlord. He quickly rebuked saying "this is not in our deen". During my stay in ilorin, I noticed that when they greet, they kneel but not all the way. They relax their backyard on ankles while their kneel float.

Maybe Oyinbo greetings are correct NOT NECESSARY .....that invites possibility of germs (transmission).

Choose your form of greeting......below

maclatunji:
You were banned by antispam bot. It is probably one of the "spirits" that just wants to teach you a lesson since you are so obsessed with them or what do you think?

you are that spirit bro . I am not obsessed with anything. Sooner or later you will understand my point.

maclatunji:
Bro. check again, I have no time for such pettiness.

It's alright bro, no hard feelings. You are 1. I am 0. 1-0

Well done maclatunji. You banned me because i provided little evidence from ulama that you so much admire ( Ibn Taymiyyah -R) to back some of the things i narrated. It's okay though. I take that as a compliment. No hard feelings, bro Islam is bigger than what you know or think.

Be informed that from a source I got little i posted that you didnt blink before you deleted, I got link for his fatawa/opinion where he recognized many things beyond what you brothers know. Little of which i gave you preview on this thread. I will keep that to myself, brother.

Unbias:
The same way 'Islam for Muslim' does on NL.

Get your priority right. You may need to affirm nonsense he asserted up there from different sources.

slyfox5555 got his source(s) from sly fox5 555 and the likes. Go to CAIR directly. period

I can't imagine someone uses only tissues after themselves. That's not hygienic at all.

Folks in medical would know this. How about sticky feces on your skin(bottom), you think tissues only will take care of that?.

Both water and tissue should be used for perfect hygiene.

^^^Patient, perseverance and awareness is needed in this situation.

And yes, lots of them are ignorant of this. However, I noticed Alfa Dauda (Alfa Nla) in one of his lectures I watched some months back, he said pretty much the same thing.

He talked indirectly about "Muslim village", being independent of non-Muslims in healthcare, agriculture, schooling, housing etc. But many are heedless.

^^^slyfox5555, pls, if you have problems with CAIR, kindly telephone them, pen them or visit their head office in New York. They have recently moved from Riverside to Broadway couple of months ago. So direct your anger to them.

It doesn't make any sense to keep reverberating old event to draw your point. One does not need PhD to figure out you have problem with this organization.

Besides, I am not convinced you are not usermane. You can hide all you want.

tbaba1234:
Ummm

Nothing, just sad.

ummm

Why are you people taking this man seriously?. Instead of using this avenue to pass insults on Islam and Muslims, you should ignore his comment for simple facts:

1. His real name is Daayiee Abdullah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daayiee_Abdullah

2. He is not a Nigerian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daayiee_Abdullah

3. He is gay (i:e muslim community dont take him seriously)
http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/america-tonight-blog/2013/12/20/meet-america-s-firstopenlygayimam.html

4. His opinion on Nigeria election is irrelevant

However, base on his opinion, it might suggests to some Muslims to do as he said because of Christians past in Nigeria. It was reported that, I think in the 80s, when Nigeria borrowed money from Saudi Arabia. Saudi, being a Muslim country, and Nigeria majority Muslim country, would not charge Nigeria interests. The only conditions given by Saudi at that time was:

1. They pay back the money (exact amount they borrowed) for as long as they wish

2. Second condition was they establish regular prayer(salat) for Muslims . A must for all Muslims.

What did Christians do?. They started shouting "Muslims want to convert Nigeria to Islam". They instilled this wrong notion on people up till this moment. This alone would make Muslims to want to vote for fellow Muslim even if he's a jack.

This is my submission

maclatunji:
So a prayer equals to spirits flying all over the place? Think about what you are suggesting again.

Your question has been answered already. I can now understand why muslims are messed up in modern time. This is crazy.

maclatunji:
Say a prayer for your sick brother. Anything else?

Mashallah! Ha ha ha ha you getting there bro

maclatunji:
May Allah bless you bro.

I ask again "Wetin concern agbero with overload?"

How does following the path the the likes of Empiree and Co.are polishing lead to Allah's mercy and Jannat?

Ok,let us assume you are floating in the air, of what benefit is it to you in real terms?

Weiting I do you again bro?.

You dont get it do you?. In my narrations so far, no one is saying chasing spirit or deliberately invoking them. What part of contributions by me and others you don't understand?. Allah enjoins seeking means of nearness to Him.

Some choose to be in seclusion and invoke Him. Quran itself encourages Ihsan. Do you think for a second that people of Ihsan (tassawuf) do what you do?. No, they do more than you.

In their seclusion, we say possibility of encountering beyond is 80% chance. The whole concept is within Shariah contrary to 4:115. No one is advocating invoking spirit. I just dont understand how you brother keep misunderstanding the whole thing. Even sino's Alfa who chanted "Ya Lateef" countless time, nothing wrong with it. He was not invoking spirit. He invoked Allah. But in what manner?....by going na.ked which is contrary to Shariah.

If I chant Ya Lateef a million times, possibility of seeing unwanted beings is there. But we say, as a true muslim, one should say

auzubillah mina shaytan rajim.

You brothers really need to upgrade your level of iman. You bore me.

And I wont deny that tassawuf is abused in our time. Abuse or not. Quran enjoins it. If you dont know, that's another case entirely. But denying it or making it sound unlawful is denying Allah's statement. And besides, there are rules to follow in seclusion (during tassawuf). And of-course, results vary. Not everyone encounters spirit.

There is difference between reciting/reading Quran and devoting (prayer form). One of the rules of Ihsan(tassawuf) is they talk less, sleep less, eat less, mingle with people less. Do you do this every time mac?

Case study: Maclatunji is the only Muslim or respected Muslim in the hood. A friend or neighbor brings their loved ones to you who is sick with known/unknown illness. This loved ones are rejected from hospital. How does maclatunji treats this situation? . Please answer

Remember this question has been evaded 3x now. This is the 4th time I am asking.

[quote author=slyfox5555 post=29270886][/quote]The video clearly shows it's an experiment not hoax. The guys are known actors. They basically made video showing what and how authority profile.

Where are you getting at this ?

slyfox5555,
All videos are less than 2 mins to watch. Do these folk want to dialogue? These are just few.

Freedom of speech ? Freedom to attack?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZjBhYG_EfU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGaJ0ctfbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIUycE1vuYI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz5nBETjgXk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhZG5iVEWXc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3idixPjbNd4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l5Pig2Ck7s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppaT3LvsXM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeijXkBOivc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZjBhYG_EfU

lilbk:
true, sir whats your conception about the muslim village he talks about, as regards possiblity of having one in Nigeria

It's something Nigeria Muslims need to work on instead of worrying about Shop-rite(christian market) mixes pork product with bread, for example.

They need to be independent of non-Muslims in every aspect and not criticizing each other.

The idea of "Muslim village" is something worthy of attention.

^^I think this is it. If not, it gotta be clip 12. This one is clip 11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2nmzpo54j0

^^^No problem bro.

Lol....

In a Christian/Muslim debate in Nigeria (watched online), after being defeated by Muslim preacher, christian asked Muslim preacher that Quran chapter orders muslims to build church.

Asked to show his proof, he said the chapter is Al-Qaşaş(28). But he didnt say it right. He said it in Yoruba accent "Ko church" i:e build church.

Muslim preacher said fire is created for a purpose. He said "wa je gbogbo iya". Further explained...according to your Bible, a chapter called Jeremiah. Do you know what that means?. It means "jere moya".

slyfox5555:
I am not indicting anyone nor do I stand to gain anything and I don't want anything. CAIR stands as a socio-cultural groups that supposedly represents American Muslims. That group has had 5 of it's members charged with terrorism and has been indicted in funding Hamas. As a Muslim; I don't want such a group to act as if it represents me or it's advocating for my best interest. Just the same way, I wouldn't want to be associated with the KKK because of it's policies and action of some of it's members that killed blacks.

Non-muslims can only truly learn about Islam through history, dialog, debate and of course criticism. That is why we are here to tell them the truth and teach them about Islam and convince them through dialog but not through fear. CAIR doesn't take that approach

If it wants to encourage education on Islam, it should allow free speech, debate and criticism. However, CAIR stifles free speech, demonize those that critic Islam and smear them.

As far as am concern you are just fussing. CAIR doesn't go about trumping over people right to free speech. It condemns "hate speech", bias attacks etc. Pls get over it.

And comparing CAIR to KKK? You are very ridiculous. KKK is armed terror organization.

Non-muslims dont need CAIR or debate anyone to understand islam. Islam is in the Qur'an.

Talking about debate, don't we have enough of that?

So far, your case is DOT (Dead On Typing).

slyfox5555:
Not upset; peeved! We started off discussing CAIR and you guys somehow turned it to name calling and ethnic categorization.

Question remains: What exactly do you gain from indictment of CAIR?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfBzgZjSZ-s

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slyfox5555:
What the f**k is "Anogo"? You are the same idi.ot that alluded I might be Yoruba; what the heck is wrong with you?
You keep mentioning this username person - did he scre.w your wife or girlfriend or sth. Dude - get over it; I AM NOT username or whatever it's called
It does - it speaks facts. Whatever I said; I backed it up with references. The 5 CAIR members who were indicted of terrorism charges and convicted. You asked for their names, I provided them yet you swallowed your tongue and didn't provide a response.
The response from the foreign minister of U.A.E is my opinion? Are you awake at all?

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Easy, bro. Why so upset?. If you are not him, then forget it.

Your writings have striking resemblance. And if you are him, who cares anyways.