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FreeIndeed:
First of all, people who think that they are "tithing" today actually are NOT, because the Old Covenant does not even exist anymore.

When Jesus died on the Cross and rose on the 3rd day, He discarded the Old Covenant and established the NEW COVENANT. The Old Covenant [including its tithing laws] does not exist anymore. Born-again Christians are under the NEW COVENANT.

The book of Hebrews says that the Old Covenant is OBSOLETE. The word "obsolete" means "no longer in use, discarded, out-moded, out of date, out of practice, not current, worn out, or no longer active." The Old Covenant [ALL of it] is gone. God moved on from that covenant about 2,000 years ago - and today He is operating in the New Covenant, which is based on grace, faith, love, and being Spirit-led (which requires being born-again and having a personal relationship with Him). People who think that they are "tithing" need to come out of the old, and come into the NEW.

People who think that they are "tithing" today are actually obeying a false tradition, which I call "The Tithing Scam." Basically, the Tithing Scam says that "God wants you to bring 10% of your money to a church-building, ministry, or religious leader. And if you do, He will bless you. But if you do not, God will curse you." This teaching is not from Christ and the apostles. It is a man-made teaching hiding behind a form of godliness.

The Tithing Scam hides behind Scripture-twisting and all types of christianese sayings about giving and prosperity. Yet it is a false tradition, and Jesus hates false traditions no matter how much Scripture and Christianese sayings are twisted around them. Jesus is the Truth (John 14:6), and if you are born-again you will love the truth and strive to obey the truth. Obeying the truth is what makes you a disciple of Jesus and sets you free from sin. Obeying false traditions keep you in bondage to sin and error. It prevents the Word of God from fully impacting your heart, mind, and even your family (if you are married and/or have children). There are many negative consequences to obeying a false tradition. I cannot name them all here.

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If you think that you are "tithing" - you are not. You are obeying a false tradition, twisting Scripture to support it, and ultimately disobeying Jesus. You don't have to take my word for it. "Test all things" (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Pray and do your own research on Biblical tithing and New Covenant giving.

Very good post, freeindeed.

Incredibly, however,some of this forum's resident tithes scammers have even told us that there is nowhere in the New Testament that {"Christians"} are told to obey God! Incredibly also, they have told us similarly that Jesus' teachings are not for "born again(ist?) Christians" because "Jesus did not function in the New Testament" and that the New Testament did not begin until after Jesus' death! Yet the scammers in the same shameless self-contradictory and fraudulent breath turn around and tell us that Jesus encouraged "tithing" for the Christian. Yet the scammers also shamelessly and fraudulently say tithing is a law that must be followed ("doing the word" and that the "law" of sowing and reaping especially to pastors or into "church" is an "eternal" law that must be followed ("do the word"! And to cap it all these two latter laws are more important than Jesus' royal commandment to love because they say that that Jesus' commandment is not for "Christians", that it is not even a commandment and there is no duty to obey it.

In fact for those who still believe that "tithing" is an obligation and a condition that must be obeyed before being blessed, well believe that no more. Here is the good news according to Oyakhilome: you are already blessed unconditionally and you don't need to obey God to be blessed with these blessings. What is more, as Oyaks' disciples tell us, these blessing comprises "the total package" including ALL and anything you can think of.

Joagbaje:
. . .“Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light.”

We’ve been made partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the Kingdom of light. We’re sharers and participators in the blessings and benefits of the Kingdom-life reserved for all God’s children. This happened when you were born again; you were born with an inheritance. You don’t have to try to “obey” the law for God to bless you; you were born blessed (Ephesians 1:3).

Also, you’re the fruit of Christ’s obedience:

“Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous” (Romans 5:18-19).

Can you now see why you don’t have to try to obey God first for Him to bless you? Someone obeyed God on your behalf, and His Name is Jesus. Through His obedience, God’s gift, His blessing of righteousness, was bequeathed to you.

Nowhere in the New Testament are we told to “obey” God or “obey” the Law. Rather, we are called His obedient children:

“As obedient children, not fashioned yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance” (1 Peter 1:14). We’re described in scriptures as having obeyed God’s Word of truth from the heart (Romans 6:17).

So our blessings and inheritance in Christ aren’t preconditioned on obedience; rather, they are our birthright![/color]

-pastor chris

By the way anyone know where Inesqor is and can send him a message? This thread is surely one for that his compilation/journal thread!

^^^ Except when it comes to giving to pastors when you must practise the law of giving and receiving. 

Joagbaje:
@zikkyy and ttalks. . . .
You asked ,then why are some Christians poor? They must practice the law of GIVING AND RECIEVING.

Philip. 4:15-17
    Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only. [16] For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity. [17] [color=Black]Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account. [/color]

Luke 6:38
    Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

When a pastor  ask people to give , it is based on this principles.

the money in your hand is first a seed. as you practise giving by faith ,the grace  of prosperity get stronger

2 Cor. 9:10-11
    Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness [11] Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God.

Nobody is against giving to poor, we all do, but thats not all about giving. there are different graces for  different givings.

there is giving to God in tithes and offerings
there is giving to  men of God in seeds by the reason of the anointing on them
There is giving to parents , this brings longevity
there is giving to the poor which is good also
they all have their different places in our lives. One must not replace the other.
Lets take  giving to parents for evample. You dont Honor your parent, you die young! to honour parents is not talking about respect but to honour them with money and gifts.

Exodus 20:12
    Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

Ephes. 6:2-3
    Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise [3] That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

Mark 7:11
    But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.

This was part of the law  but its still valid because it is based on a principle .you see , the parts of the law that is abolished are the parts Jesus fulfiled. but there are other things under the law that are valid ,not because of the law but because they are based on spiritual principles in God.

If honoring your father is still valid
if worship of God is still valid
tithing is  still valid
offerings is still valid
first fruit is still valid

Again: tithing is valid, first fruit is valid etc ----- BUT Jesus' commandment to love is not valid, it is not New Testament. Nice. 

This other thread has an interesting article on the topic https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-57998.0.html

Also, as people point out on that other thread, it is important to understand the context of the usage of the English word "judge" and whether the concept it is used to translate in the Bible is e.g. condemning others (which we are not supposed to do) or e.g. "discerning" or assessing other people's actions (which we are very much supposed to do).

For example, Jesus and the apostles "judged" several people by describing them as liars, wolves, a fox, false teachers, deceitful people etc etc. And in this age when anti-Christs are out in full force desperate to penetrate the true Church it is important that we "judge" them in terms of discerning them for the wolves in sheep clothing that they are, that their god is their belly and that their father is the very father of lies himself.

Is it not undeniable that the following passages involve "judging"?

Matthew 7:15

Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

1 John 4:1

Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

2 Peter 2:1

But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

Jude 1:4

For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord

livin:
PLS can i ask what the word [/b]is?

Very good question - because they are actually saying that they themselves are "the word"; see here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-708981.0.html

So, their yieldedness to "the word" is actually yieldedness to [b]themselves; but that is no surprise, as their god is their belly so we shouldn't wonder that that is what they are yielded to!

Sowing and reaping is also a "spiritual law" {but of course Jesus' royal commandment is not a spiritual law)!

From here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=385781.msg5380915#msg5380915

Sowing and reaping is a spiritual law.Either you give to the poor or to God Or to a pastor.

It is a law at any rate

Joagbaje:
. . .  . A real pastor doesn't live by salary. His salary is a seed in his hand. He give by example. People bless him in return . Its a law of sowing and reaping. When you start giving and you see the result , you won't criticise wealth again. . . .

Oh by the way, when it comes to this sowing and reaping thing even Jesus was "dealing with a law"!

Joagbaje:
I dont see a reason for this statement of yours. Who's talking about obsession with money.my point is that Jesus was dealing with a law . A principle of sowing and reaping. Either its in cash or kind . It's talking about giving something physical. . . . .

Also, when it comes to "sowing and reaping" then Jesus' teaching applies for the "Gods"; it doesn't then matter that "New testament began after Jesus death" or that "Jesus didn't function in the New Testament"

Joagbaje:
There is not supposed to be an issue for debate. We sow money we sow time, service ,smile,love,  We live by our seed. But you see God is particular about our attitude to the giving of money. The God of mammon and covetousness will not allow people to give money so they fight it. It is easier to give shoe than give its money equivalent. Sowing and reaping is a law. seed time and harvest. The first thing God gives is a seed ,when we sow ,we then have harvest to live on. . . .

Joagbaje:
sowing and reaping is an eternal law. Jesus taught you can give your jacket, coat ,help,service .etc.but I dont know when it comes to the giving of money, some people will pick up fight or when it come to giving to God in churches. Giving of money will continually be a major part of our seed because money is medium of exchange.

Eccles. 10:19
    ,  money answereth all things.

If there is anybody that illustrate attitude to money the most it was Jesus. why did he not tell the rich man to giv his goods out? Rather He told the rich man to sell the goods in exchange for money first. tthen give out the money. It is harder to sow cash but Jesus want us to conquer mammon. Annanias sold land but found it difficult to remmitt it. There is a perfection you attain by sowing money. So dont rule out money in the law of sowing and reaping it plays a major role.

"Eternal law indeed" ----- but not Jesus Royal Commandment, oh no no no, that one is not even a law not to talk of eternal law.

"Thievery" is a terrible thing. 

According to Joagbaje, when it comes to obedience to the teachings of Jesus, "There are no laws and commandments for the church to be obeying.


Hmmm but when it comes to money and his casino (or kalokalo) gospel:

Joagbaje:
It's a law of sowing and reaping, . . . . 

Why are you against giving to the man of God , when it's clearly in the bible ? Are we wiser than God. If God lay the principle . We do the word without questioning him. We shouldnt be looking for other way around it.  If the bible says so, that settles it for me.

When we give to MOG we are the ones been blessed , not him.

"Law" of sowing and reaping? Hmmm! The Bible says so and settles it? Hmmm, but not when Jesus and the apostles said there is a new commandment --- no no no the Bible does not settle that one!

Joagbaje:
@all
There are no laws and commandments for the church to be obeying. If you have references to them pls name them.
1. Thou shall ,

nlMediator, what do you think?

^^^ Well my people, I warned about the above in my very first post on this thread. Now he is saying, as he has done before, that those words of Jesus do not apply to Christians. Well we Christians, as followers of Jesus Christ, recognise those words as His commandments for us. We are willing to accept that they do not apply to those so-called "Gods"!

Enigma:
However, even worse than this, expect some of them to come and tell us that {edit, the} words of Jesus do not matter for Christians because "Jesus did not function in the New Testament."

Where does any of that call Christians "the Word of God"? Of course these gnostics calling themselves "christians with greater truths" can't stop talking through their backsides!

aletheia:
[quote author=Joagbaje link=topic=704762.msg8689890#msg8689890 date=1310322412]what are the christian commandments for us to obey?

(John 13:34 [KJV])
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

(1John 4:21 [KJV])
And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

I suppose these verses are missing from your version of the bible. The reason you miss these rather simple and obvious words is that you are operating and walking in the flesh and in your hubris confusing that with being spiritual. You better repent.[/quote]^^^ Of course it is all over the New Testament but there is none so blind as those who refuse to see. OK since he seems to need help let's show him further and if he still refuses to see . . . .

1. Jesus said

John 13:34 (already posted by aletheia)

A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

John 15:12

This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.

2. Apostles said

1 John 3:23

And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.

1 John 5:3

For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

2 John 1:6  

This is love, that we walk according to His commandments. This is the commandment, that as you have heard from the beginning, you should walk in it.

1 John 4:21

And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.

Galatians 5:14

For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: " You shall [/b]love your neighbor as yourself."

Romans 13:9-10  

9 [b]For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not bear false witness," "You shall not covet," and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
10 Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

So we see Jesus Christ Himself and His apostles telling us that there is and we (Christians) have a new commandment and we must keep/obey it. Then we have these people with "greater truths" telling us "it is not a commandment" and that "nowhere in the New Testament are we told to obey God".  Oh such a big big big dilemma as to who to believe now, isn't it?

Meanwhile if someone says that the Ten Commandments are now irrelevant, point them to that last passage from Romans and ask for their own judgment of its meaning and application.

Joagbaje:
^^^^
That's what we are driving at. Love is a nature. That's who we are. Is a dog barking by commandments or following a law? There is already a law at work in his nature that makes it bark. Love is our nature. It is a law at work in the christian . It is not a commandment but our nature. We give it expression.

Yeah right! That is why Jesus Christ called it a commandment; that is why Paul called it a commandment.

Anyway, when you first find the passage in Romans, we can talk.

Joagbaje:
@enigma

You are the one trying to use your skill to confuse us on imple statements . I asked you what are the christian commandments for us to obey? You didn't answer rather you went on and on twisting everything.

Which commandment/s do you know of in the New Testament. More importantly, if you identify any commandment in the New Testament --- are you or are you not told or required to "obey" it?

Afterall you are a pastor, a whole state pastor for that matter! is that one something too difficult for you to check in the New Testament.

I even gave you a clue in post #126, I told you to ask your "friend" Paul! Ok, out of the goodness of my heart, I'll give you one more clue: when asking Paul, look in the book of Romans somewhere!

^^^ I hear what you say but I'm afraid, "nowhere in the New Testament are we told to obey God . . . " is more than mere semantics. 

Interesting article on this recurring issue of whether Christians should "judge" others.

Thanks a lot nlMediator. Hopefully, all of us can learn something from these threads --- actually even from the "other" side. It is not as though everything that the CEC people are saying is untrue ---- the problem is that the poison that has been infused ultimately destroys or nullifies or makes impalatable unpalatable the little bits of truth in their position.

I hope for example that people from the CEC side will look into what we are saying and see if they (in particular by supporting that Oyaks' statement) have taken things too far. Actually, there are some of them that I like --- in particular, to be honest, I have always had a soft spot for nuella2 from my very first interaction with her on this Board.

For the sake of people like her, we need to make these arguments and try to keep things simple; due to the arrogance of the likes of Joagbaje and quite a few others of them (including Oyaks himself), we have to put them in their place which means we too sometimes sound arrogant or harsh.

For the sake of the likes of nuella2 especially, consider the following:

1. When Oyakhilome says "nowhere in the New Testament are we told to obey God", compare that to what Peter said in Acts 5:29 that "We must obey God rather than men! as well as all the other barrage from scripture that are given on this very thread.


2. If you argue that we should not use "obey god" because it sounds like fear ----- what about Jesus? Jesus said He obeyed the Father! Did Jesus obey the Father because of fear? Or did Jesus not make clear that His obedience to the Father was a demonstration of love?

Let us start with Romans 5:19 (misused as ever by Oyaks)

For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

So we see that Jesus too obeyed; He too obeyed God! If Jesus obeyed God, why would his followers worry about using the word "obey" for following God, keeping God's commands or even "doing God's word"? (PS that Jesus has "obeyed" does not mean that Christians do not have any need to "obey" as Oyakhilome suggests falsely ---- it is just that the acts of obedience required of the Christian are not of the same magnitude as the act of obedience of Jesus in His sacrificial death)

Second, we can see readily from scripture that Jesus obeyed not out of fear but out of love; for example He says in John 15:9 that "as the Father has loved Me so have I loved you". Does that sound like someone who obeyed His Father out of fear or rather out of love? On top of that He Himself (and the apostles) taught clearly that to love God is to obey Him and to obey God is to love Him

For this, it is worth repeating the passages below:

John 14:21

Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."

John 14:23

Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.

1 John 2:3

We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands.

1 John 2:5

But if anyone obeys his word, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him

2 John 1:6

And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.

So the suggestion not to use "obey God" but instead "do the word" {of God, really?} is utterly baseless. As I have said before the whole "do the word" thing is to mislead people into doing empty and useless rituals. Further, something I didn't say before, it is underpinned by another lie that people are "Gods"; it is the idea that people are "Gods" that supports the further lie to them that they can "speak things into existence" etc


2. Whether keeping, indeed obeying God's commands leads to blessings. Well, why don't we start with the words of Jesus Christ Himself in Luke 11:28

“Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”

Well, if you tell me that you would rather choose the contradictory lies of Oyakhilome to the words of Jesus Christ Himself . . . .


EDIT: we can also add James 1:25 But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it—he will be blessed in what he does.

The difficulty that people have of accepting that obeying God leads to blessing is that they see "blessing" only in material terms like cash, kudi owo, eego, money; wives; cars; houses; designer clothes; children; getting admitted into university/"higher institution"; having fame and public adulation etc etc

Well, while God does give material blessings (not necessarily encompassing greed or even every aspiration or desire), what about spiritual blessings. And often obedience to God brings about spiritual blessings. From a fleshly point of view --- focus is on material blessings (and this is where the prosperity "gospel" is a gospel of the flesh i.e. a false gospel) ---- whereas from the biblical, and especially New Testament, point of view the spiritual blessings are of primary and far greater importance than material blessings.

@NLMediator

Yep, balance is important --- but this thread has been about more than balance.

Most of us challenging Oyaks and Joagbaje accept that some of God's blessings are unconditional --- moreso for the Christian and even some for non-Christians. I said that much in my very first post on this thread (and even repeated it later).

There are two main bones of contention on the thread:
1. The suggestion that obeying God does not bring any blessing
2. The statement (really, the lie) that "nowhere in the Bible are we told to obey God , .

^^^ One of the four boys that Eddie Long settled with was recently (i.e. after the settlement) arrested while driving a 2011 BMW; he told Police that he bought the car from his settlement money.

Joagbaje:
The issue is what law or commandment are you obeying?

Well, why not ask your "best friend" Paul?

1 Cor 7:19

Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts

PS Meanwhile, I deliberately chose not to go into other aspects of Oyakhilome's piece in the OP so that this thread can have some sensible focus. In truth, the OP contains other deceitful nonsense based on misapplication of scripture e.g. the use of Romans 5:18-19 about salvation but misrepresented for material blessing.

And if they say all blessings are unconditional or that obeying God does not lead to blessings, well let us see some grappling with 1 John 3:21-22

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God 22 and receive from him anything we ask, because we obey his commands and do what pleases him.

OK, below a few more passages showing that the Christian is required (even told by God Himself) to obey God.

(I am quoting from the NIV which uses "obey"; some other versions also use "obey"; others use "keep my/his commandments"  ---- bear in mind that Oyaks says people are not told to obey God and Joagbaje suggests there is no command to keep!)


John 14:21

Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."

John 14:23

Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.

1 John 2:3

We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands.

1 John 2:5

But if anyone obeys his word, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him

2 John 1:6

And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.

Let's be doing with those for now. When we then contrast Oyakhilome's statement, in fact his lie, that nowhere in the New Testament are "we" told to obey God, can we really still take him seriously as a Bible teacher? Is he not clearly a false teacher? And is it now not more plausible that he is working to a different agenda?

Thanks to Enigma too

The language filter has unintentionally produced one of the funniest thread titles on the forum 

Christian Bottom. of Nigeria indeed!  (Christian A.s.s of Nigeria)

EDIT @OP I don't really want you to change the title as it is so funny and demonstrates the sometimes ridiculous effects of the filter. However, maybe next time you could try "the Christian Asso of Nigeria".

petres_007

Life experience "PhDs" are usually obtained from useless "institutions" (some only have mail box addresses, no proper office, no campus etc) that are known as "degree mills" or "diploma mills". The theory is that although Mr X may not even have a degree but as he has been working as a mechanic for 10 years, if he pays e.g. £500 he can be awarded a "PhD" in Mechanical Engineering.

Thus, it is possible that a person who has been a pastor for a few years could pay a diploma mill e.g. £500 and the diploma mill will award him a "PhD" in "Pneumatology" (i.e. perhaps study of the "Holy Spirit".

The long and short of it --- even you can set up a diploma mill in your very house and be selling degrees to dummies and fraudsters through the Internet.

Here is an extract from Wikipedia on diploma mills: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma_mill

A diploma mill (also known as a degree mill) is an organization that awards academic degrees and diplomas with substandard or no academic study and without recognition by official educational accrediting bodies. The purchaser can then claim to hold an academic degree, and the organization is motivated by making a profit. These degrees are often awarded based on vaguely construed life experience. Some such organizations claim accreditation by non-recognized/unapproved accrediting bodies set up for the purposes of providing a veneer of authenticity.[1]

While the terms "degree mill" and "diploma mill" are commonly used interchangeably, within the academic community a distinction is sometimes drawn:[2]

* A "degree mill" issues "real" diplomas from unaccredited "universities," which may be legal in some states but are generally illegitimate universities.
* A "diploma mill" issues counterfeit diplomas which bear the names of legitimate universities.

Medical diploma mills have operated, and have been blacklisted, in the United States for over 120 years.

@petres_007

I think the date you are looking for is Sunday 26 June 2011 https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-393253.320.html#msg8592382

And from Part 1 of the series http://saharareporters.com/article/religious-las-vegas-stupidity-%E2%80%98sons%E2%80%99

Religious Las Vegas: The Stupidity Of ‘Sons’

By Olumide Goodness Adeyinka

I had to travel through a city that exists but not discovered by many, some of who are novices, but a lot of whom are bonafide citizens of the land that raises her population as silly as it can get.

The city has a demeanor for affluence, a swagger for its greatness and an identity for its brevity. It was a city many loved to identify with but some like me (and few others that I know) have come to terms with as a city of poison (even though that was not the intention of the founder), a city of entrenched interest, a city of perversion and a place of lies, lies and lies. Unfortunately, many still live in that city. Allow me to introduce you to the leaders of this city.

The leaders of the city take pride in their superiority over the commoners and their closeness to the Supreme Being more than any other person. Their names alone triggers respect and reverence in high and low places. [b]They speak with the arrogance of their tongues and the insolence of their mind. They command with the utterance of authority that the state in its derived powers by constitution does not have. They have their own laws and their own security apparatus. They have the means to provide all the amenities of life that the state has deprived its population. They have the jets and the cars that laugh at the dilapidated state of the roads. They can afford to change cars as often as every year, after all how much does it cost them? They are richer than the captains of commerce and industries, yet put in no dime in investment portfolio. I am talking about a people you dare not cross. They fight with the venom of their mouth derived from the ‘anointing’ of their ‘chosen calling’. They threaten with a curse of their tongue as they suck the ‘blood’ of their victims.

Remember though, their threats are not empty threats. They have bullied their followers with all kinds of imagined fictional episodes of testimonies that send fear into the minds of these pitiable folks. So many have “died” for daring to challenge them or question their authority. Their “god” had made many turned psychiatric patients for just questioning their authority. They quote from the scriptures in 1Chronicles 16:22

“…. Touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm….”

Their God (who loved them more than any of his other creature) was ready from the days of old to destroy anybody that stands on he way. Guys, these leaders are beyond the laws of the book they preach. The commandments are more or less for the commoners. They have been perfected by “god” and cannot be wrong or reprimanded by him.[/b]

These leaders have a strong desire for the good things of life. Lust of life is permitted for them but not others. The love for money cannot be the root of all evil with them because they have paid a supreme sacrifice in the secret before now. The lust of the flesh is only an exercise of their right to rest after comfortably preaching 5 times a week for an hour each. They needed all the comfy life and money can afford them. Choice food and choice wines too.

Their throats are deep like the trails of a Behemoth. Their insatiable longing for power and influence will make them do just anything. They lobby for friendship with those they should be reprimanding. They quest for the patronage of the people their type in the Bible questioned and tortured with the truth. Truth to them is what the king wants to hear. Lies to them are the noise of the multitude that has been abandoned in the wilderness. They love the blessings of Abraham but have nothing to do with the routes of Abraham. They love the followership of the masses not for what spiritual food they will serve them but for the fatness they tend to reward themselves with. Their quest for evangelism is subsumed in their penchant for numbers to launder self-image and approval. The article of their trade is money, the creed of their belief is money, their faith and their hope is more money. Money, and money alone makes them feel good. They rejoice not in the hope of their calling, but in the reward of their super stardom.

[b]What then is the source of their wealth?

I am happy you asked! Where else would you suggest it came from? I am sure it is a collation of Tithes, different offerings and special vows that are forced down the throats of the unsuspecting victims. Lest I forget, there is also the special care offerings that promises to set people free from their poverty. And again, there is the “seed” for breakthrough; and of course, backed by a threat of lasting poverty in case you disagree. Their wealth is from the Church, from the same sheep they are to oversee. They plundered the poor and deprived the fools.

What is their instrument of trade?

Very fascinating question you asked dearie. Their tongue! They are sizzling with their tongue. They are heavy laden with charisma, loaded with eloquence of the letters, well equipped with the charm of appearance and above all testimonies that are very difficult to verify. Their audience is captivated by their popularity and their unavailability. Their message is enunciated with many powerful people they have dined with, and the league of their friends. Since most of their followers are out to use them too, it became a game of who is smarter. These leaders win anyway you look at it. Lies is the name of the game and exaggerations is its hallmark. Their treachery is fuelled by the unending submission of the followers. They have done so many wrongs and yet got away unscathed. Now, they are sure not to be fallible.
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By now you should know the category of Nigerians I am talking about. They are the so-called Spiritual leaders in our Churches (not the Church of Christ). I have rightly called them RELIGIOUS LAS VEGAS.

The part of the game that blew my mind up is the insignia of their pseudonym. They are called Papa, Daddy, Baba, Bishop etc.       
Now I remember what Jesus said in Matthew 23:8-11. I paraphrase below;

“…. Do not call anyone Rabbi… or Father… or Teacher, for only one is to be called those names…”

The scripture above does not nullify personal respect that should be accorded those that teach and labor spiritually over us per se, but it is directed intentionally to those who will derive their existence and satisfaction in being called so. God knew that such trend will automatically breed a brood of silly followers who will surrender their intelligence and mental stability to assess, process and verify the truth as stated in the Bible. They rejoice in the euphoria of being called a ‘son’ and the putrid satisfaction of association with ‘Papa’. Many are deceived to the point of believing eternity with association.

All hail ‘Papa’ says the silly ‘son’. Wake up and smell the coffee! The clock has taken a turn at the corner. I[b]t is time for the army of the Lord to take the shield of faith to quench all the fairy darts of insurrection against our God and His people.[/b]


Olumide Goodness Adeyinka is an ordained Minister of the Gospel, Businessman and Founder of NIGARD. Contact him at nigardgroup@yahoo.com

We await Joagbaje but it is most likely a "life experience PhD" as in following link i.e fake/bought.

Life Experience PhDs

Meanwhile, we could ask: why does Oyakhilome say his "Gods" don't need to obey God but, according to his followers here, only need to "do the word".

Well the answer is simple: instead of trusting, following and obeying God, he wants his "Gods" to do empty rituals like --- "making positive confessions", "speaking to situations", "commanding things", "paying tithes", "sowing into pastor's life", "paying Offer 7" and things like that.

So you see, this is how "doing the word" is different from obeying God.

Backing up slightly, Demain-man made a good point of clarification to nuella2 that to "do" God's word is to "obey" God's word.

In Joagbaje's moments of duplicity, he has often run to the "God's Word Translation" of the Bible when trying to mislead. So OK, let us now refer him to his GWT.

Jesus said in Matthew 7:24

GWT

"Therefore, everyone who hears what I say and obeys it will be like a wise person who built a house on rock.

NKJV

"Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock

^^^ @ Nuke

Yes, we here (you, me & others) have to labour but ultimately Jesus' sheep will hear and recognise His voice ----- just like that gentleman you mention.

@ dare2think

Well this is what the "Gods" say that they "ginosko" and the rest of us are "nepios" for seeing that, in truth, the emperor has no clothes!