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There are 5 functions of grace noted by scriptures. SALVATION is the least .

The plan of God has always been man's participation in the kingdom . " I'll create man and he will be my mirror image on the earth " . But man failed in that assignment and could not do the works of God until Christ(Grace) came.

man fell short of God's standard and chose Knowledge(death) instead of life(Christ) . Yes Christ has always had pre-eminence even in the garden he was there symbolising life .


I see many people preaching the doctrine of Devils by negating the gospel of Grace , thereby indirectly denying the cross and the death of Jesus. Of what justification is the death of Jesus if grace is not worker of our salvation?

It is a procession from Grace unto good works. And not the other way around. It's what apostle Paul boasted of in 1corinth 15:10 .Gal 2:20.. he was always giving glory to Christ .

It was Christ doing the labour through him and not of his own righteousness.

Man has a spirit, a soul(Mind ,Emotion , will) and body.
The grace of Jesus is spirit substance which saved the spirit and not the Soul .

The spirit is reborn but the soul isn't reborn but can be transformed by the renewing of the mind (Romans 12:1) . This is only possible by having the mind of Christ. for which knoweth the mind of God save the spirit of God ?

our spirit becomes one with the spirit of God as we accept Christ. It's the work of grace to train the soul to yield to the law of life and to flee from the law of sin and death.
(Titus 2:10-11) the grace of God that bringeth salvation... teaches us that we should deny ungodly lust and we should live soberly.

Because man has fallen, he's limited to just knowledge. Now God has to teach him organically how to yield to life. So what is eternal life? That ye may know the one true God and his son Jesus. God became a knowledge.

The first man didn't need to be taught about God, he received the spirit by inspiration and so he knew all things til he chose to be limited by Knowledge. Now, he has to see , hear to know and understand. How can one be saved except he's being led by a preacher?

Kobojunkiee:
No need for long epistles please.

○ So, was Jesus Christ in His statements found in Matthew 10 vs 22 & Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13 perhaps wrong?

○ When in parable He explained how it makes sense to count the cost in Luke 14 vs 25 - 35, was Jesus Christ simply saying His own?

○ When Jesus Christ told you the parable of the 10 brides in Matthew 25 vs 1 - 13 and how 5 of them --- all equally brides --- could not make it in the end, was He not trying to bring your attention to work that had to be done in order to qualify for salvation at the end?

You made zero point. You just denied Jesus working in us and through us and ascribed the glory to flesh. Of what use is the death of Christ, Lady? It seems you don't know the power of Grace that works in man.

You think you can of your own be righteous without the holy spirit? Without the Holy Ghost no man can work the works of God . Without faith that gives access to the visibility of God in our lives your works is dead and counted as filth.

At the end Of the parable what did Jesus say?
Shall the son of man find Faith on the earth when he returns?

What faith is he talking of? The faith that makes a man work the works of God . You think without grace and the spirit of truth you can work the works of God? My spirit is grieved You all Deny Jesus unknowingly.

jesusjnr2020:
What exactly do you think you do when you say no man is saved by works in spite of the overwhelming biblical evidence stacked up against your falsehood?

It's antichrist to undermine the importance of works in one's salvation when Christ Himself who brought salvation says works is the parameter He'd used to judge every man.

As for the bolded, you should tell that to the people of Nineveh and all others in the Bible whose works saved them from being destroyed by God.

Just incase, let me still put the truth in front of you to give you another chance to realize your error if you would.

Jonah 3:10 (KJV)

AND GOD SAW THEIR WORKS, THAT THEY TURNED FROM THEIR EVIL WAY; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Now that's the teaching of death to you.

Where in the new testament was any man saved by works except by Jesus(Grace) ?

Lee99:
my bro, this girl wan chop my eye, but e hook am, funny enough she had only 20k in her account now she has 2k 😂

She will make it back in a second. Lol

jesusjnr2020:
How can you be so spiritually blind not to how works saved people in the past despite how glaring it is?

Didn't you see what God made of the works of the people of Nineveh or you chose to remain blinded to the Truth?

You think they deserved to be saved because of their works?

No!

They didn't deserve to be saved because of their works, but they were able to partake of God's grace because of their works.

That's what the true grace of God does. That's the essence of the death of Christ. Men don't deserve it but they would only be able to partake of its benefit because of their works. Hence Jesus saying He'd judge every man according to his works.

But the grace you preach which undermines the importance of works in one's salvation, is not of God but an antichrist gospel which encourages/promotes sin, produces many sinners and has sent many souls to hell, so it doesn't ascribe any glory to God as you ignorantly think but to sinners, making them to be boastful and emboldened in their inquity to their own destruction.

How can God get glory from such a gospel that justifies the wicked and make them to continue in the evil ways and not come to repentance?

It the devil that the grace gospel you preach glorifies. It makes sin to abound and it's only the devil can get glory such a result.

So continue to glorify the devil and sinners if you like. You are entitled to your choice.

How am I supporting the devil sir? From what I wrote up there , did I undermine works? 😂 Ever seeing but not perceiving, ever hearing but not understanding. You clearly did not read my write up. You're also blinded by emotions . How many times will I say that grace is for works? And not the other way?

What you are teaching is death sir.

jesusjnr2020:
KEEP REPEATING YOUR LIES. IT WILL NEVER MAKE IT THE TRUTH!

Works would have saved man from damnation in the beginning if he had obeyed the Word of God.

Works would have saved the people in the days of Noah if they had kept God's Word and weren't evil doers. God said He would destroy the earth and all flesh because of man's wickedness.

Works saved Noah from damnation because he obeyed God's Word and walked righteously.

Works saved the people of Nineveh because they repented and had turned from their wicked ways.

Jonah 3:10 (KJV)

And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Pay close attention to the above carefully if you don't want to continue arguing blindly that works has never saved any man from damnation.

God has not changed and will never change, hence why He yet said He's going to judge every man according to his works. Matthew 16:27, Revelation 20:12-13.


Continue lying to yourself if you like. Your choice!

You can never know more than Jesus who died for man's sins and said that He will judge every man according to the man's work, not His! Matthew 16:27

Where is grace ? Then what is the essence of grace? Is Grace not for works?
God has seen that man cannot work the works of God without divine ability . So he has given grace. You are teaching death sir.

GRACE ascribes glory to God and Works ascribe glory to man. But if you labour and deny yourself of the Glory and acknowledge the true motor which is God, like Paul , then that is grace at work. Be there preaching self righteousness. The.n of what need is the death of Christ?


You seem blinded. I must leave you now.

jesusjnr2020:
It is the "saved by grace alone" doctrine which is false and has nothing to do with Christ who said He'd judge every men according to his works. Matthew 16:27

It has sent a lot of sinners to hell because it emboldens and makes many sinners boast, instead of repenting and turning away from their sins as Christ warned them to do. Luk4 13:3

I repeat. NO MAN IS SAVED BY GOOD WORKS.
You can't do the Job better than Jesus(Gal 2:20-21). It's the definition of grace you're getting wrong . You simply don't know what grace means. If anyone truly has received grace , he will be saved.

How many things can you stop doing to save yourself ? You keep acquiring more Knowledge of sin by preventing yourself from sinning . Don't do this, don't do that. Don't kill, don't steal. But you still know how to lie, to lust etc. You keep living trapped in do's and Don'ts. You fast , but you don't pray often or you pray often and then sleep often.

You visit the sick but don't visit the prisoner or orphanage. How many good works can guarantee your salvation? It's not about what you do. Grace helps you do what you need to do at the right time. It's an inbuilt life system governed by the kingdom of God which is the leading of the holy spirit . How can you be lead by God and still sin?
There are scenarios where the grace of God will even discipline you so you cannot sin, even if you want to by all means. I don't want to even go there.

Romans 3:20 KJV
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

But Grace has an inner working, a new life that works within , which makes one subscribe to the law of life and not of sin and death. Grace is a function of faith. What you're teaching is a teaching of death.

four functions/aim of grace

1. Forgiveness and Redemption

2. Salvation
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[9] Not of works, lest any man should boast.

3.Doctrine
Titus 2:11 KJV
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12
12. Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; m

4. Divine ability to become and to labour/work with and for God (power)
This is the final aim of grace

1 Corinthians 15:10 KJV
But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

Galatians 2:21 KJv
I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Shalom.

jesusjnr2020:
What Saved The Thief On The Cross?

It wasn't just faith but good works that saved the thief on the cross.

He didn't just put his faith in Jesus and pray for Jesus to remember him as many erroneously think. He did much more than that!

Luke 23:39-41 (KJV)

And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.
But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.

This was what the thief said before he told Jesus to remember him. He defended and stood up for Jesus against the other thief while on the cross.

He rebuked him saying, "do you not fear God" because of what he said to Jesus.

Is that not a good work he did for Jesus on the cross?

Remember, this was the loneliest moment in the life of Jesus.

His disciples who He said He would reward with a kingdom because they were there with Him in His temptations, had all forsaken Him and fled, so they weren't there with Him during the moment of the greatest temptation He ever faced. Luke 22:28-30, Mark 14:50.

Worst still, His Father whose presence Jesus valued more than anything else, of who He once said, had never left Him, had now also forsaken Him.

John 8:29 (KJV)

And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

Matthew 27:46 (KJV)

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

So this was the same moment on the cross that the thief had risen to the defence of Jesus when He had no one else there to back Him up or bear witness of Him, so was that not a good work the thief on the cross did for Jesus?

It wasn't just a good work but a great and strategic work, and the thief himself appeared to know that he had done an important work for Jesus, hence the language he used.

He said "Lord remember me..." Luke 23:42 (KJV)

He could have said "Lord save me" or "Lord help me" but he said "Lord remember me".

It reminds me of what Joseph said to the cup bearer of Pharoah after he interpreted his dream.

There has to be something to be remembered for, and for the thief it was the great thing he did for Jesus on the cross.

He was there for Jesus in His most trying moment when no one else was, hence Jesus who didn't respond to the request of the other sinner to also save him, didn't hesitate but instantly granted his request.

Luke 23:43 (KJV)

And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

So the thief didn't just believe or have faith in Jesus to save him, he did a good work for Jesus on the cross.

God bless

False doctrine. He was saved by grace.

No man is saved by good works. Only by grace lest any man should boast.

No discernment. This is not Christlike.
When you give , the other hand shouldn't know.

Lamanii22:
It’s not about money lol… it’s about the connection… pardon me 😂😂😂

Indeed. Guess what's gonna be connected?

KanuSE:
Darling, please don't mind all these insecure commenters masturbating on your thread - They simply cannot comprehend.

They quickly forgot that you specified it was a harmless date but they're here foaming in their mouths. They wouldn't even respect the fact that you're an adult with an independent mind.a



Ignore all of them please

Arse licking simp

Drsnives:
Oh yes, the said lady I was chatting back then was a tumboy.. but my imaginary mind I dea see one beauty queen.. for her she dea reason me to be one vanviker with 6packs with ride, she know no say na only lepka undergraduate for poly then
It ended in shame n disaster

Lmao 😂

Eyinju112:
You’re correct. But at the same time pray she don’t get jealous. Because when the jealousy in her starts to burn, then she start acting like you’re taking her precious son away from her, it’d later look like a competition. if she feels her son is giving too much attention in his new family, the love she once had for you would start changing to hate.

True. Emotional intelligence comes into consideration and check . This is where the mother has to put herself in the shoes of the woman/wife in order not to breed any feeling of jealousy. The man's duty is first towards his family before anyone else , and his woman becomes his immediate and nuclear family once they have been joined .

Mom has little or no power whatsoever over the union or her son once they have cosummated to become one. She needs to understand this. The vetting is done before the two will be consummated .

Asides food or mirroring what he loves, another way to a man's heart is loving his mom. Take it or leave it , else you are not fit to take up the role as steward of his home and resources.

As a lady, the final litmus test you must pass is the vetting of his mom(if she's alife) and sisters , or someone he loves and respects so much , who fits in perfectly to that role in his life, unless the aforementioned have terrible social traits .

As a man, no matter how terrible your mom is with people, she knows good and evil and can discern both.

Ladies, don't expect his mom to accept you at first glance. You must work for that validation. Show her love and respect. If his mom will truly grow to like you or speak well of you, then she must have seen through the pureness, meekness and goodness of your soul, tho we all have dark sides that can be triggered, but occasionally.

All moms want daughter inlaws that are better than them for their sons, because most mothers can discern their kind , and they don't want any of that drama for their sons because they love their sons, except for the narcissistic mothers .

As a man, you need little or no validation from the woman or her parents if you're fit mentally, physically and financially . You are the prize, the provider and alpha . That means you don't have to impress her or her parents.

I'm not negating being good and nice especially to her father and brothers, but you're not obligated to be, tho you must be courteous in dealing with them. You're the one with the status . She's the enigma your mom has to crack and vet .

Exact same things I told my guys. There's a reason women mostly have problems with their mother in-laws. It's essentially because our mothers have been in their stead before , thought like them , had same entitlement mentality and can discern their kind 2miles away from you . They literally see through all their bullshit and won't let us get burned for a no just cause 😹.


Your wife will allow her mother come live in your matrimonial home, but will be disturbed if you ever conceive the thought of bringing your mom in.

Tit4Tat1:
Do me one favor. Kindly remove that picture from ur profile, it's disgusting and same time makes you look like an idiot

I thought it was just me 😂😹

Simply Infatuation. Only people with low self esteem fall in that category. And 80% of the time it's a huge scam.

NewManFred:
I'm gradually becoming a psychopath? This must be the dumbest thing I've read all weak. Psychopaths are born, not made. I wasn't a psychopath all these years I was indulging in violent porn, but suddenly I'm becoming one just after deciding to quit violent porn? Listen to yourself.

The flashes of previous scenes are normal. I'm handling it. The fact that I've gone over 48hrs without watching violent porn is enough to show I'm serious. You have no idea how tempting it is to go and have a little peek, but yet I'm restraining myself. Cut me some slack please..

I don't mean to hurt your ego, but you're still living in denial of the fact that your soul is heavily engrossed in this abominable fantasy of yours. Your obsession with abnormal porn has blinded your sense of reasoning.

Why would a sane individual derive pleasure from watching stupid people make love to "dead bodies " or forcefully have s*x with people that appear to be helpless? . If you don't know , there's something strongly wrong with your thought process and this is a matter of extreme perversion which must be looked into .

Secondly, I must applaud your awakening , it was already long over due . What you have been serially engaged in for the last one decade is highly illicit. In most civilized states, you will be tracked down and monitored to ensure you don't have psychotic tendencies , because you have been indoctrinated by abnormal porn and who knows if you have been likely induced to make your crazy fantasies a reality. This was why I said you are liable to be a psychopath...

Still, I pray you find the help you need because I still see you going back On it full time . 2days is too little to conclude that you have quitted. Even 3months is little. The heart is the true man , that is where the engine that propels a man to act resides. Extrapolating From your narrations, I already seen you jerk off a million times in your mind...

Good luck.

You're gradually becoming a psychopath OP ... I don't mean to be insultive but I pray you find the help you need.

If you must truly stop porn, then you must learn how to kill the appetite and desire. Desire births appetite, and , the more you keep getting those flashes of the previous porn scenes you've seen, the more desire is ignited and conflict is stirred... All you need left is a trigger and you will keep recycling your misery for ever .

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