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Your soul is gone.

Nonsense

budaatum:
It is not your fault. I blame the Nigerian education system for depriving you of knowledge.

Creation and_evolution in public education

Who is this one again

You must be an attention starved fellow.

Evolved ape.

LordReed:
From preceding lifeforms.

Since you Indirectly claim to be wise...

Where did those supposed "life forms" emanate from?

LordReed:
They were not created, they evolved.

Evolved from where?

Kobojunkie:
Which God? Hope you are not speaking to Him of the same God who instead said His Love for men exists only for those who live their lives in obedience to His teachings and Jesus Christ much the same as Jesus Christ Himself did - John 15 vs 9 - 11 & John 13 vs 1 ?

You are a super false teacher .

You think you're more righteous?
Only God knows the vile thoughts and abominations in your heart.

God loves that young man and also sent his son to die for him so he can be redeemed.

There's nothing you can do to earn the love of God. He even loved us all and gave himself for us before we were born. So there's nothing we did to deserve it.


You're so unbelievably false and less compassionate. You speak like Satan.

ecomalchemistt:
You lost your job not your LIFE.

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Janosky:

Hebrews 1:1-2 & Acts 2:22-23,26 is truth in your Bible.

Acts 2:22-23,26, Peter the apostle says Jesus Christ is a prophet ,Oga do you love this truth?



[b]Jesus Christ is a Minister & spirit his Father sent from heaven to minister, according to Jesus @ John 7:16 & Matthew 20:28 & Paul the apostle @ Hebrews 1:14.

A minister is a messenger, angel.

Who doesn't know that Jesus is a prophet and an apostle of God? HBut how does Jesus being a prophet affect your salvation? It's not effective except Jesus is Christ. Only the Christ saves not an angel, nor prophet or an apostle.

An angel is a messanger of God , yes , We are all messangers/ministers of the new covenant so does that makes us angels of God in our preincarnate forms? Do you see how gullible and crazy u sound?

Antichrist pls Rest in Jesus mighty name.

Satan must be proud of you indeed.


"Preach Jesus by all means , but let people know that he isn't the Christ but the angel Michael is the Christ . Tell them that he didn't create the world and he's not one with God.



Make people believe they can't have access to God even after the sacrifice of Jesus.
Let them know that it's not possible to have fellowship with the spirit of God and commune with God . "

Satan's doctrine to your damned soul.

Janosky:
Matthew 20:28 Jesus Christ himself confessed he is a ministering angel.
Hebrews 1:14 & Matthew 20:28 confirmed Jesus Christ is a ministering spirit-( angel in human form)

No angel is ordinary,no angel be your mate.
Oga, which angel of God you get power pass?
Live with this truth and STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF.

I can see where delusions begin.

Please what's the meaning of Ministry ?
Did Paul not say we are all ministers of the new covenant?

Please believe in what you want.

You worship angels , and fallen angels at that.

Your arguments are baseless and stvpid


You speak like this because you are under the tutelage and leadership of the antichrist.

I won't respond to you anymore.

You're unreasonable and you lack coordination.

Janosky:
Jesus Christ says the holy spirit is God's finger.
Oga, does God's finger speak to you? With which mouth?
Oga, Hebrews 1:1-2 says carry your spiritism outta here.
You are hearing the voice of demons.
Rather you are against Hebrews 1:1-2 as well as making fictitious claims.

This is proof that you don't understand Hebrews 1. Because Hebrews 1 means that Jesus Christ/The spirit of the son is now the Voice of God and not just prophets .

Jesus Christ is the Word , because he is the spokesman of God,his Father- John 7:16 & Hebrews 1:1-2.

Jesus Christ has other names and titles in your Bible, (Malachi 3:1 , Amplified Bible (Bible gateway website) .

You're a fool as the scriptures declares.
Please show me where in the bible that says Jesus Christ was an angel ?

The commander of Jehovah's army, Joshua 5:12-14 (find out numerous Bible commentaries of your fellow Trinitarians on Joshua 5:12-14 & cure your delusion . Joshua 5:12-14= Matthew 25:31, Daniel 10:13, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9. Rev 12:7-9.).

The lamb of God, John 1:29,49 etc.

What does Lamb of God means?
Does it not indicate that Jesus Christ in human form is God's sacrifice for the atonement of the soul?

You're just a foolish zombie.

Maximus692:
As long as ErnestNc is no longer responding my job is done here.
Like Saul he was castigating God's organization based on his own understanding of the scriptures {Act 7:58; 9:1 compare to Galatians 1:13} he called for this and each of you have given your opinion on the matter just as Jews in the first century always call the crowd against true Christians {Act 14:2; Exodus 23:1-2} with all your contribution he must have made up his mind on what to do.
One thing that's certain is that there is a great chasm between practicers of pure worship and faithless miscreants {Luke 16:26} though i've talked about it several times on this forum but today i will expatiate for the benefit of honest hearted and sincere individuals who are following this thread.

So what exactly is this CHASM set up between practicers of pure worship and faithless miscreants?

Well it's the opinion that if God is one then there can't be two different religions worshipping that single God!

A person may be a traditionalist, Judaist, Hindu, Muslim or any other religion what Christ sent us to find out are those believing they have the one and only religion approved by God, this are the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} they're ever willing to submit themselves to those taking the lead in pure worship {Hebrews 13:7, 17} so even if everyone thinks they're wrong what matters to them is loyalty to the God of pure worship so they don't practice interfaith (idea that religions are like various roads leading to the same place) they're strictly focused on what they believe.

So if anyone doesn't want to hear that one God can't be worshipped in different ways he or she is on one side of the CHASM while the one who strongly believe that there is no other way to worship God except one is on the other side of the CHASM.

The five brothers in Jesus' illustration of Lazarus and the rich man is all about different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all agreeing that they're worshipping the same God despite the fact that they're not in agreement.

Lazarus simply means individuals who has been loyal to false religions {rich man} going to beg for crumbs falling from their tables of lies while the sours in his body are losses he has incurred due to misdirected zeal. So when such a person now finds pure worship it's like he's dead to all his suffering because God (father Abraham) will bless him so much that the rich man who formerly use to feed this beggar will start to hunger and thirst for him to say something because they will know from the deepest part of their hearts that this person has received talents that's beyond their reach. But instead of them to believe that he has found the way to salvation they will be demanding for supernatural signs {Luke 16:30} but if they don't believe the fine works of faith surely they won't believe even though Max is performing signs in their presence! Luke 16:31

So to ErnestNc who asked go through all the comments on this thread, meditate thoroughly on what each person has been typing, find out where faith is and decide on what to do.

God bless you all and may you have PEACE!

I haven't decided anything sir but I just chose not to engage in baseless arguments which setttles nothing.

My original post is my unwavering opinion .
I strongly detest false doctrines and the spirit of God bears witness within me when I hear something false even with individuals outside the sphere of religion.

The only thing I have against JWs is their multiple false doctrines and one is their unconscious effort to debase the person of Jesus by relegating him to being just an ordinary being or an angel when it was made clear through John's testimony in the scriptures, that all things were made by him (John1) and his preincarnate form was the WORD in the beginning and not an angelic being.

Secondly, y'all deny the power of God and the grace of God which is the spirit of God indwelling in a man.

You deny that the Holy spirit can speak to us and guide us , instead you call it spiritism and the voice of Satan.

You deny anything that has to do with the holy spirit.

You alienate yourselves from the kingdom(influence) of God , saying that you can't be born again because you're not worthy of God's sacrifice. Meanwhile Jesus said he that is thirsty should come and he will give him life (the spirit of God).

I will never engage anyone of you JW's in baseless arguments because it's not worth it.

Just as Muslims believe in Mohammed, you disbelieve in the Spirit of God and say it's the right way of life. Hence, I cannot disillusion you, neither will I persuade you.

If you still think Jesus's preincarnate form is not the WORD OF GOD but angel Michael, I shake my head in pity and agony for you because your redemption O' SON OF MAN, IS FAR!

MaxInDHouse:
no JW will ever come telling you "Jesus is archangel Michael" it's after you've accepted our elementary teachings before we can tell you such deep secret.
I wasn't a JW by birth so it took me more than 6 months after i've been studying with them to know that Jesus has returned in 1914.
So it's you who has no business with our beliefs that's now behaving like the fanatical Pharisees of Jesus' days.

No wonder you are like this with other JW apologists.

They groomed and programmed you in the deception cooler for months til you became hypnotised and brain washed enough to believe all the fables and hogwash those rejected men taught you, you swallowed all and didn't seek the truth by the spirit of truth , , even if they told you an angel created the whole world and he's your messiah you believed 🤣 🤣 .

You can imagine the cunning craftiness employed by your cohorts to deceive and lure people into bondage by false doctrines.

You use elementary teachings so you can win the fragile and gullible hearts of people only to destroy and demoralise their soul forcibly with doctrines they cannot proof, reprove or search out.

Satan never deceives people outside the word of God. He always uses God's word as seen in the garden, at the mount with Jesus and JWs too.

You all deploy the element of subtility just as your father Satan , the strange serpent .
He tried to attack me today because I came to destroy your falsehood but he failed .

You feel mentally attacked and pained as depicted by your little or less meaningful responses 😂😂

It still doesn't change any fact that you all are cunning , crafty and subtil as the serpent .

MaxInDHouse:
When confronted over beliefs someone typed the below:



So who is the fanatic disturbed over what others believe now?

You're pragmatically unintelligent.😂

Y'all are the ones trying to shove your false beliefs on our necks.

JWs are the ones going about everywhere to people's private establishment and homes to demoralise and indoctrinate innocent souls by saying that angel Michael is Jesus and that Jesus came in 1914.

And I shouldn't stop it? Satan must be really proud of you🤡

Who gave y'all such false prophecies and messages that can't be traced scripturally 😂😂

MaxInDHouse:
Antichrists doing the work Christ assigned!

Have you read ur history and origin?

Do you know what your founder's beliefs and convictions were that lead to the birth of JW?

You are no different from the Church people you criticise .

JW IS Synonymous to self righteousness, , false prophecies and false doctrines.

Emusan:
Paul and Peter were addressed by their other names reason why you know about their other names.

But where does the Bible or anyone address Jesus as Angel Michael?

Don't waste your time trying to argue with these JWs..

Especially that Janosky guy who is being intoxicated and used by the spirit of the antichrist.

All their doctrine does is to surpress the Divine importance and relevance of the Holy spirit and Jesus Christ.

Janosky:
MUMU RANTS of DELUSION.

Your fellow 3 deities worshippers conflicting with your GIBBERISH.
The screenshot PROVEN your DELUSION

Y'all are antichrists


That's what the spirit does.

Tries to surpress Jesus ...

Janosky:
Because they don't know that Parousia at Matthew 24:3, the actual meaning is "presence."

That is the fundamental reason for the delusion of ErnestNc.

He had to coin imaginary convo he NEVER had,in order to be LYING on this forum. .

Keep deceiving yourself.

Y'all religious fanatics claim angel Michael is The Christ.

How much further can you go to expose yourselves as antichrists?

This is something kobojunkie, Maximus692 and other JW apologists need to see .
I doubt, like most of their cohorts they truly know and understand the origin and history of JW's true convictions and foundation.

What a mess of an organisation.

Courz:
The JWs were told that Angel Michael is Jesus by Demons. Remember, their religious leader Joseph Rutherford admitted that when Jesus came in 1919 to select their religion as the one true religion, Jesus took away the Holy Spirit and replaced him with Angels which is not a Biblical doctrine at all.

Rutherford needed to solidify and legitimise their communication with so called Angels so that JWs can easily accept their demonic doctrines and Fake prophecies. But he forgot that his claim isn't Biblical. Rutherford claimed that Jesus saw no need to give them the Holy Spirit again to understand God's word. So, he sent angels to give them supernatural messages from beyond.

These same angels were the same people giving Watchtower False prophecies of when the world would end. Do angels of God give False prophecies? The only beings whose works are these are Demons. Fallen Angels. Has the Bible ever talked about Jesus taking away the Holy Spirit and replacing him with Angels?

Fallen Angels hate Jesus and seek to diminish him. This is the same work of an Antichrist who is working with a Fallen Angel. Fallen Angels work day and night through different religions to reduce the role of Jesus and reduce him to a mere Angel. That's why the Bible says We Must Test the messages we get whether they are from God or from Fallen Angels.


There is a Book Watchtower got from a Roman Catholic Priest who communicated with demons to help him explain the Bible and in that book the demons were attacking Jesus diminishing him. If you read the book, you can feel the demons desperation to reduce Jesus. A lot of what the demons said in that book are what JWs teach. That's a Red Flag. Imagine reducing Jesus, the same Jesus that is a Divine Being, the same Jesus that the Bible said created everything in Heaven and on earth, imagine this powerful being reduced to a mere Angel that is one of his creations. That can only be the work of Fallen Angels. The Bible has already warned Christians against doctrines that are Antichrist like.

JWs are not aware of their history and Watchtower doesn't want that as well. If they knew how their doctrines are formed, they will question their religious leaders. JWs never read their old publications because they regard them as Apostate. Isn't that strange? That your own books are Apostate thereby making you as a religion an Apostate? How did I know about Rutherford admitting to communication with Fallen Angels? From their old publications! No wonder Watchtower never wants JWs to read them. It is even a red flag for a religion to ban its members from investigating their history. You will know something isn't right with them. But since they are forbidden from questioning them, they will accept questionable doctrines.

JWs are under serious spiritual prison and influence. If you investigate their history, you will know that their source of doctrines is Spiritism. In that same old publications, they are taught that the Anointed JWs who are Freemasons will give them messages after they die and those messages are what JWs feed on in their publications today. Remember, these same Anointed JWs are the Channel of Communication.

They are the ones who receive messages from Fallen Angels then organise all the messages into publications for the rest of the JWs to read. Not long ago, in one of their Annual meeting talks, one of their Governing body members claimed that Charles Taze Russell is still running JW Organisation on the path of righteousness from beyond the veil. Rutherford also made that same statement when he was alive. That is what we call Necromancy. Communication with the Dead.

Maximus692:
All of you should go and sort out among yourselves why only JWs are most active in doing the work Lord Jesus assigned to his disciples globally {Matthew 28:19-20} due to envy you guys will just jump into a bus or street corners disturbing pedestrians with your noise claiming you're preaching whereas

Doing whose work? The work of God or work of Satan?

"Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of heaven"

You want us to believe in angel Michael as our Christ and saviour, when the bible made it clear that Michael and Jesus have separate roles, identities and personalities.

Jesus is the creator as stated biblically , and by him were all things made, even the angels were made by him, yet you reduce him to being an angel.
The creation cannot be the saviour of mankind, but rather the creator. This is why you will forever dwell in falsehood.

If there's anything I hate , it is false teaching and doctrines. Even in our local churches I cringe at the hearing of false doctrines and I detest false doctrines and doctrines that soothes the flesh only, now talk more of a sect that claim the arch angel of God is the saviour of mankind. Spits...

You are busy spreading the spirit of the antichrist to innocent souls that have initially tabernacled your spirit . You were told about Jesus like the sons of sceva but you never learned of Him neither did you look for him, else you would have known the truth.

pandoragirigory:
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Liberia uses Dollar.
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Westerhoffe:
If only they read their Bibles properly snd understood its content.

I also had a documentation about it.

Exactly. But they never do.

JWs believes Jesus's preincarnate form was of the personality of the arch angel Michael, and that after which he died ,he continued to serve in the former capacity of his position.

It was never recorded that Jesus returned to heaven and herded the angels of God as Michael , but rather sat at God's right hand as Christ.

Ascribing Lordship to Michael as Christ is a bogus lie and deception of the antichrist. It is written that we have one mediator between God and man and that is the man Jesus Christ , not the spirit arch angel michael. This is nothing but blasphemy and angel worship.

In scriptural context, the two personalities were never juxtaposed alongside each other, except for when it was written that the Lord Jesus would descend from above with the voice of an arch angel.

It was never stated that he was an arch angel , but it simply meant His voice would be in the similitude of the intensity and might of an arch angel declaring war as a celestial being. This is what JWs mis interpret as Jesus being the arch angel Michael.

The antichrist doesn't want us to believe in Jesus , so he tries to dissuade the focus of men into believing in others things as their salvation , things like addiction, inordinate affections , strange movies and music , angel worship, to deceive some persons from their true Messiah.

[Hebrews 1:5-6 KJV
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

[6] And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Even the angels and Michael included worships Jesus because he is The only begotten son of God and Lord of Lord's, a title bestowed on Jesus by God .

It was recorded that when the archangel Michael contended with the Devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).

He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him.

Michael is obviously not the Lord. Even revelations state that he would battle the dragon , but he can't do that without the Lord's permission and that Lord is Jesus.

Jesus had no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord. Michael is not the Lord , but Jesus is. Note this.

Even when revelations recorded that we will reign with the Lord Jesus for a mellinnia , it never mentioned Michael as the who would reign with us, but rather Michael and his angels were spotted battling the dragon.

You can obviously see two distinct personalities carrying out their Separate divine duties as touching the end of days .

Michael is a spirit, he has no body but Jesus has a body(" A body has thou prepared for me" .
Michael will battle the dragon and Jesus will ride on a horse with ten thousands of his saints to destroy the antichrist( a man).

Maximus692:
I told you that if you have any further questions just ask and get the answer you're not to judge simply by quoting a verse out of context!

Paul's letter to the Hebrews should be fully understood my guy, most Hebrews are using the names of angels to pray till today just as most churchgoers are doing.
So Paul was telling the Christians that God never introduced any angel to them as His Son in whose name they should pray.
That's the import of what you quoted.
We are talking about the real personality of the angel whose life was transformed into the womb of a virgin Jewish maiden but after his birth on planet earth the name we should be calling is "Jesus" not his former name.
For instance: before someone becomes a chief or king his name remains intact but at the moment he becomes a chief or king it's the title that we must use to address him not his former name.
So i'm not telling you to call on Michael while praying rather you're the one who asked for the name Jesus bear in the spirit realms before he became the (son of man)

You're a confused personality.

Don't you think if God was sending Angel Michael as his son, He would have told us?

You're not telling me to call on angel Michael , but you just told me that he is the messiah 🤣.

Who else will I call upon if not the messiah , "Michael"? Isn't it Michael that gave his life for us? 🤡🤡

You confuse the role of angels with the role of the messiah of mankind. Why is Michael not described as LORD? Do you know that what Lord means? Michael is Chief angel /arch angel , not the begotten son of God please know the difference.

This is what happens when fallen angels give y'all doctrines , y'all become influenced to worship angels as your saviours .

Jesus is Lord, not Michael. Any Spirit that doesnt testify this is the spirit of the antichrist. Jesus is the son of God and Christ of God. Michael is the arch angel of God and not the Christ of God.

It was clear in revelations that Michael and his angels would battle the dragon and it was also clear in revelations the Lord and ten thousand of his saints will ride on a horse to defeat the antichrist. These are distinct personalities and different duties, one in the class of God and the other in the class of angels.

Maximus692:
Unlike you and your pastors deceiving yourselves claiming God/Jesus use to speak with you privately we rely solely on what is found written in God's word and His Holy Spirit directs us to scriptures needed to help us arrive at the right conclusion.
So we don't say God speaks to us that way that's why we make strong disciples who are fully competent and completely equipped to preach and teach since everything they needed for the preaching work is found in the Bible so they can point to verses in God's word!


With the highlighted i will show you what we found in the Bible it's God's Holy Spirit (spirit of pureness and sincerity) that will guide your mental powers to conviction that you've found God's people if you're honest hearted and sincere in your findings so that you will find PEACE in what you're learning! Philippians 4:7

In the beginning God was with one spirit being who was created in God's image {Proverbs 8:22 compare to John 1:1-2} this spirit son of God spent uncountable years with his father until the father decided to give this child an inheritance but he also must work alongside his father as a master workman {Proverbs 8:30} that's why the Bible called Jesus the firstborn of all creations! Colossians 1:15

So the first assignment was to create heaven and since this child is a spirit himself along with his father that was easy for him so God's word said "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" {Genesis 1:1} note what the next verse say ",and the earth was without form" {Genesis 1:2} this is because the work is no longer about spiritual realms but physical so the son of God needs guidance to do this work, that's why his father stepped in and started directing him on each step to take in the creation of physical things.

The father uses an energy called God's Holy Spirit to accomplish all His purposes so the Bible says "the spirit of God was moving over the waters" {Genesis 1:2} from then you will notice that a voice was instructing someone saying "let this or that be done like ....." {Genesis 1:3, 6, 9, 11,14, 20, 24, 26} that's God's voice instructing His only begotten son on how to work on physical creations!

So it's established that there were two persons that started all this things in the beginning! John 1:1-2

But then how did we know that the second person is the one later known as Archangel Michael?

The word "Archangel" means the angel whose position is higher than all others and only Michael was referred to with that title {Jude 9} all angels are God's spirit sons {Job 1:6; 38:7} the place God created for them to live is heaven while earth is designed for humans! Psalms 115:16
According to Daniel's and Jude's account Satan who is also an angel but rebellious fear only one angel and that's Michael {Daniel 10:13; Jude 6} and Michael is the angel standing for the salvation of God's people {Daniel 12:1} he is the same person who can resurrected the dead with just a call {1Thessalonians 4:16 compare to John 11:43-44} Michael is the commander of all the angels in heaven {Revelations 12:7 compare to Matthew 13:41; 25:31} while Satan is the head of all rebellious angels.

After the creation of heaven and earth with all the things made God's craftsman said "i love humans the most" Proverbs 8:31 and God decreed that whoever disregard this person will be destroyed! Proverbs 8:34 compare to John 3:16

Of course you will be waiting for where the Bible will tell you directly that "Jesus is archangel Michael" but that is not the case remember how God's word foretold that Elijah will come before the Christ {Malachi 4:5} only for Jesus to say John has taken that part and the scriptures say "Emmanuel will be the name of the Christ" Isaiah 7:14 only for Gabriel to tell Joseph that Jesus should be his name! Matthew 1:21

Who will convince unbelieving Jews till today that the Elijah they were expecting has come as John the baptist or that the Messiah whose name according to the scriptures will be Emmanuel has come as Jesus of Nazareth?

Well if you believe in God's word you shouldn't have any problem with this because after Jesus (archangel Michael) returned in 1914 the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses kept growing and moving into all the corners of the earth making strong disciples just as he ordered! Matthew 28:18-20

So it's either you agree or disagree there's no need for arguments but if you have further questions let me know!

Where in the scriptures did Jesus say I am the arch angel Michael? Did Michael not dispute over Moses's body with Satan? Where in the bible was it stated that Michael created all things?

[Hebrews 1:5-8 KJV

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

[6] And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

[7] And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
[8] But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O
GOD, is for ever and ever: a f sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Do you now see that you're in an antichrist organisation?

God sent his son and not Michael to die for our sins. A fallen angel has given y'all false doctrines.

If an angel from heaven or anyman gives to us another doctrine other than the gospel of Christ let him be accursed. My friend you are cursed.

Maximus692:
Hen nah!
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only group having fully competent and completely equipped preachers and teachers of God's word unlike you people who claim you're Christians but can't defend what you think you know!
So go and keep what you know so that i also keep mine at least each person agree God exist and that he is worshiping God it's our understanding that differs. So if you will not humbly request for what i believe then there's no need talking as if someone is wrong!

So God told you his only begotten son is angel Michael?
Please point to me in the scriptures where we can find that. Since you claim to be a "well equipped teacher of God"

Please I want to learn .

Maximus692:
Let me throw your own comment back at you:



So if you want to LEARN that's not how to go about it.
You supposed to say:

"Please help me with the scriptural backing which convinced you that Jesus is the same as Archangel Michael"

Ọmọ no be gra-gra after all you've seen how efficacious i defended the fact that Jesus returned to this planet in the year 1914.
So you now know that it's not just them say, therefore if you want to learn you must humbly ask. I'm a fully competent disciples studying the Bible with many who are old enough to be your grandpa!

Sense will not finish you 🤣🤣

sonmvayina:
I don't see any actual teaching..
I wonder what I should learn

You're right. Absolutely nothing to learn...

Maximus692:
Just ask for what you don't know because there are over 41,000 different sects all claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
So singling one out shows you've noticed how faithful and dedicated the adherents of this faith are unlike those faithless miscreants around you!

Is angel Michael the Christ and Messiah?

Yes or no ?

sonmvayina:
This is not the answer to my query...

I am yet to see any jesus in the Tanakh..

Show me...

You came for dispute and not to learn.
You want to patronise me.

When I see teachable people I know.


Anyways, there are more than 50 verses of scriptures to my best knowledge that points that Jesus is the Christ by description and manifestation.

Maximus692:
Of course you're an unbeliever because they don't dispute what the majority they like agree to it's only things they dislike that they will not like to believe even though there are scriptural and social proofs!

If you say you believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the promised Messiah but you were never there to witness what his disciples penned down what proof do you have other than the fact that majority you like have accepted what Jesus' disciples wrote?

I believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the promised Messiah not because of the conviction of his disciples but the story of his life how it fulfilled the prophecy regarding the Messiah in an accurate way.

John the baptist heard from God that the Christ will come for baptism and God's Holy Spirit will descend on him {John 1:33} and it happened exactly as God told John the baptist {Matthew 3:16} despite all these John still doubt if Jesus is the promised Messiah, so he sent his disciples to go and ask Jesus! Matthew 11:2-3

Please what on earth could have prompted John the baptist to doubt Jesus' authenticity?

Well it's due to wrong expectations!

John knew through the prophecies that the Christ will come and establish righteous rule throughout the earth {Daniel 2:44} and during his reign the righteous will flourish! Psalms 72:7

If that is true then why is John a righteous man and prophet of God arrested and imprisoned when the Christ is around?

So what response did Jesus gave John who was anticipating a release by the King of kings if truly Jesus is the promised Messiah?

Well Jesus only told John's disciples to go and tell John what they're seeing which are the part of the prophecies that Christ will fulfill at that point in time {Matthew 11:4-5 compare to Isaiah 35:5-6; 61:1} in fact Jesus added that John should be careful not to stumble due to wrong expectations.

So if we JWs believe that Jesus is around since 1914 and we're pointing to the WORKS he is doing using imperfect humans today whatever you choose to think, say or do doesn't matter to us because we know that's how people like you criticized Jesus' disciples who also claim that the Christ has come in the first century! Matthew 5:11-12

Jesus has always been around abeg.

1914 is hoax.

What baffles me is You guys claim angel Michael is the Christ . Lol.

Jws are just anti ChristS in disguise .

sonmvayina:
Will you mind sharing the old testament quotes relating to jesus?

Are you feigning ignorance or you haven't read the scriptures before?