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[quote author=Daejoyoung post=65819380]What would you say of Makelele then? Are you saying he wasn't top quality standard?[/quote standard of measurement for a top quality dm has improved... This is a new Era.... I keep saying the same thing over and over.... Besides are you saying ndidi is as good as makelele

edi287:
True but none of those guys are pure destroyers except maybe Casemerio who I think is better sha.

gbam..... But in a top level team, who needs a pure destroyer, whose only attribute is tackling especially in this modern football era... Shey u see the trend...maybe now we get the point... Even casemerio you call a pure destroyer scores goals and gives assists... I mean big big goals that has taken Madrid one step further in the champions league.... Remember he was loaned to Porto when kroos was preferred to him in that role.. But Zidane called him back and integrated both in the team.... Point is casemerio improved other aspects of his game and flourished....... I really don't get the ndidi is a black african hence he is not rated syndrome.....

AIG07:
baba, how is stats generated? Or how do players churn out stats?
Let me help. Let me summarize in two words 'GAME TIME'.

You only know a player has quality when he plays. You can and should never assume that a player lacks quality without seeing him play.

Most Nigerian players are never given enough time to show what they've got compare to their counterparts. Yet, you want us to judge them with the same yardstick. That's unfair.

Give both parties same opportunity and see who'll excel.

On Ndidi, I didn't say he is World class. The guy's performance as put him at the top.

we have what we call standard... There are yardsticks for measurement and it is the same everywhere.. Be you African or otherwise I rest my case... Nice discuss tho

AIG07:
@first bold, how many Nigeria players were signed by top teams in Europe in 1995 when Nigeria was ranked 5th by FIFA and despite the 94 performance?
There are more to this things than the eyes can see.

I don agree with you On the second bold-A resilent mindset.

oga you must agree for the first o... Cos me I knw say that 95,96 na we get players for Barcelona, ajax, dortmund, inter, ac Milan, come lead enter arsenal chelses..... Last last.... The time frame may not be spot on but it was a boom period... The domino effect of our top ranking was felt in our player transfers

Mujtahida:
Not so simple as you think. Never said their counterparts are not the best. Just telling you black players have to do so much to earn just a little recognition. This black thing has grades ooo. Blacks from say France are treated better than Blacks from say cameroun

oga you be lawyer na.... If you nor measure up to nba standard will you be called to bar.... Again if you never improve and upgrade can you serve at the international court... Mek we leave this racism black thing.... Quality is quality... There is always a standard to be met...

AIG07:
wait... Question for you.
How do you know a Quality player?

thank you for this question... We got different types of quality... World class, average, bang average, shhht etc.... The stats tells the story... Type of team, team contribution, trophies.. There are so many parameters used to measure quality.... Ndidi for me is just outside the bracket of top quality dm.... He is not there yet.... When he improves he's attacking qualities then we can talk.... You can't call him world class based on he's tackling stats alone.... I Pray he gets there

Mujtahida:
Point is if his counterpart do so much as he's doing they'd get more than enough credit. I am not one for using terms like world class to describe our players. I don't see racism but then there's a reality you are not aware of. It's harder for black players. They have to be twice as good to get even their names mentioned. Drogba and the rest are the ones no one could do otherwise. They were not good. They were too good.

it all boils down to fifa rating, work permit issues... Bla Bla Bla... Probably Im going too far... But trust fifa standard they rule the game.... If we africans want to be the best... We beat the best... Besides we leave our country to go play there and you say they are not the best.... It's harder for black players because we are not the best... It's simple.... No inferiority complex here... Else why don't African teams run over Europeans nd Americans at the world cup.... We should change the way we think.... Accept where we are in the grand scheme of things and strive to grow from there....

Mujtahida:
Cos it's hypothetical not factual.

smiles...... I been wan hook the bros.... He dodge... No wahala.... We all wish ndidi the best.... Infact I am very happy for him and prays he earns a good move and wins trophies... But first he has to improve to that international, top quality dm standard.... U dig

AIG07:
I have learnt to stop comparing our players to their foreign counterparts. Simply because they're not on the same WAVELENGHT and so I can never judge them by the same FREQUENCY.

The difference is clear and obvious. The difference is NATIONALITY and NATIONALITY ALONE.

We're always trying to compare Nigeria players with those players from S.America, Europe etc when we all know that the FIELD OF PLAY IS NEVER FAIR AND EVEN.

A certain coach came on board and gave a relatively unknown player from S.America a call and the next was history.

If Ndidi was to be a European or a S.American, no one will be here discussing this. The Main Stream media would have pass their verdict on his quality.

To those who never believe in the quality of our players, I say put other top DMs(the Kroos, the Casemiros, etc) in leicester and let's see if they'll churn out the same numbers Ndidi is producing week in week out.

I have come to appreciate the work our boys are putting everyweek in Europe to keep the our flag flying.

I know someday, verysoon, we'll silent every doubters. Those who never believe any good thing can come out of NIGERIA.

I rest my case

lol.... Quality is quality irrespective of nationality... Ask George weah or toure, Drogba, eto to name but a few.... If you don't measure yourself against international standard how do you develop.... We go meet for world cup na.... It is not rocket science why s. America and Europe dominate the world cup.... They are the best in terms of football.... Take it or leave it. . That is the reality.... To be the best you have to beat the best.... For ndidi to be rated a top quality dm he has to perform better than he's American and European counterparts... O pari

tbaba1234:
Keita is center midfielder.

You are underrating the boy. He will play wherever he goes.

Puel called him the most important player in Leicester. Not Mahrez or Vardy.. Ndidi..

bros you didn't answer the question o

tbaba1234:
I would not be surprised if Ndidi secures a big move at the end of this season.

Kante in the premier league winning season had only 1 goal and 4 assists. Kante was certainly not there for his passing ability or goalscoring.

Ndidi already has 3 assists this season.

Let us hypothetically agree that Ndidi has a blast at the world cup and moves to a big team... U pick and choose any.... Tell me who he will bench.... In any of the top teams.... Note Liverpool already signed keita.... I say he stays and improve...

BascoVanVeli:
First of all nobody can replace Busquets. He is the most important player in barca apart from Messi. Also Ndidi could battle Rakitic for a shirt although that would also be tough because he is very underrated.

Ndidi cannot play rakitic position.. He will flop big time... How una de look this Ndidi sef... This guy was a defender before o.... Blik una Dr forget.... He doesn't have d guile... How many assists, goals has he... What is his passing accuracy or success rate.... Oga forgiveness help me pull the stat na.... U sabi that thing well.... Make all this our people see.. So them go calm down for Ndidi mater

tbaba1234:
What was Kante doing apart from tackling and interception? Was he a great passer or dribbler??

If Ndidi moves to a bigger side, he will get better and will be better recognized..

Kante is a better passer and dribbler nd scorer... Ndidi should stay for one or two more seasons with Leicester and improve other aspects of his game before eyeing a move to a top club if nd when they come for him.. That is my point

maidaboi:
put indidi barcelona and his passing stats will improve leicester is not a possesion side until of recent and his passing stats are improving because of it

Ndidi is very good at what he does, which is break up play, but for top quality dms...the cream de la cream.. Tackling is not enough... Wait o.. Is this not same Ndidi I watch misplacing passes nd shooting waywardly... Imagine Ndidi in a man city side... How will he cope.. Can he beat his man in tight spaces release a pass in quick transition nd his teams scores from that play.... Bf them come for my head I am only analysing without a gwg tainted glass... I love super eagles and our players oooo... Infact we go win world cup.... Runs outa thread...

tbaba1234:
Ndidi is not the finished article but we are seeing the improvement and more importantly the consistency. He can not be classed 'world class' yet but on current form, he is as good as other major DMs.

the last part of ur submission they off me bros... Azzin how... The boy still de grow abeg... He is not as good as any other top quality dm... This is just like comparing nacho with Kane or aguero.... Broz easy na...

tbaba1234:
On what grounds?

At present, none of the above is better than Ndidi in breaking up play.. They might surpass him in other attributes but on current form, he is right up there.

1st the quality of teams they play for, 2nd experience wise, 3rd number of trophies won, 4th better dribbling stats, 5th better passing stats, 6th better shooting stats... I can go on nd on... Ndidi jus de use experience as a defender plus he long legs they accumulate tackling stats for midfield nd una de hype m to high heavens.. I shock for una oooo.. Thesupernerd give me one meme dere abeg... Lolz

Daejoyoung:
So you think Barca cannot chase Ndidi? Matic is just a bigger and more popular player. Ndidi at 21 is certainly a better defensive midfielder than Matic is, except in making timely passes like someone said earlier.

Barcelona cannot sign Ndidi yet... They just signed Arthur from gremio with n eye on replacing busquets plus they have Paulinho... I am not putting him down but please the reality is he is on the up and not there yet.. Cc icon4s. When he improves the attacking aspect of his game, then we can talk about world class.

tbaba1234:
At the moment, on form, Ndidi is as good as any DM out there, including Matic.

Matic can be grouped as 'world class' based on previous achievements and Ndidi has not yet gained that level of acclaim and is still developing as a player.

I beg to disagree Sir. Ndidi is not as good as fernandinho, Fred, jorginho, casemerio, busquets, Gabi, Can, vidal, khedira... I can keep naming them... Put him in an attacking team and he's deficiencies will show.. He has a lot to learn.

LZAA:
agents put out silly stories in the papers evry once in a while to generate interest in their clients(All agents do this) and to drive their wages up.
that's the difference,he ain't english so why should he be hyped up?
kimmich and sule put in similar numbers in germany and don't get hyped
stats are just used to track fitness by serious coaches
only jokers take them serious

I agree with your stance in this discuss. Ndidi still has a lot to learn, long pass accuracy, fast transitions, shot accuracy.... Do you know he is the worst players in terms of shooting accuracy in the EPL... the guy who has taken the highest number of shots without scoring... Make we calm down for the hype abeg... Ndidi still de grow and even on present form cannot and will not bench matic.

IamDarkKnight:
I don't really understand this NL PM of a thing. You can shoot your question here on NL, if it isnt too personal

it is about the doing PhD directly without masters plus the GRE thing.. You said you wish you knew earlier, I'm wishing I know now... *winks* that's why I want to establish contact if you have the time. As fr the nairaland pm thing I hit u up, nairaland contacts you, you approve and voila... We connected

IamDarkKnight:
True, write GRE apply for PhD, get funded. I wish someone gave me this advise earlier

hulo good morning... Can I contact you.. Would like to have a chat with you..

asuustrike2009:
Mtn why are you this heartless, wicked and cunny. How can you force me to awufu plan after I recharged via my bank. Your rude customer care agent just worsen the situation by saying it is not refundable. Please I beg in the name of God to return my airtime.

I also experienced this... The customer service agents were just tossing me up and down... Had to use the airtime by force for calls.. I will not recharge my mtn line again... Rubbish

If the battery was 4000 mah.. Smh... Gionee x1s.... Make sense pass..

Náwao

jbaby265:
thanks

if you try that rubbish that poster told... Ur relationship is gone.... You want to form porche on top this wahala... I laugh you

Never met anyone born on same day with me... 28 Sept

Leosmart855:
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Xeeman:
You nailed it all bro.
I can 100% confirm that. Your fouth point attracted my comment. I finished my level four with CGPA of 4.40. With the level five courses, it is impossible to get 4.50 as such I have make permutations to select all the elective ( optional) courses. Luckly I ended up with 4.55.

how come same thing happened to both of us.

elyte89:
Is it a must teams take three gk to a tournament

Hardly does d 2nd Gk get to play at d tournament till it ends,let alone of d 3rd gk playing... To me,I c it as a waste of slot

imagine your first choice goalie with a tournament ending injury... You can't be left with just one goalkeeper in the squad can you... Hence 3 keepers

dejavuh0007:
Lasu no dey smile at all. See as dem carry knife enter my gp last semester.

in patience jonathan's voice.... Chaiiiii

So on point, I can relate.

Unical no clearance... Looks like this will affect students. Results are ready but no way to clear