₦airaland Forum

Patchesagain:
Yes, i have given up arguing with someone who cant even grasp the argument himself

I am not a fan of wasting my own time

story for the gods.

mzilakazi:
There's difference between security and defence dummy. Now national security is even top because it includes the police and military. You will have to be briefed about crime intelligence as well as military intelligence, threats and terrorism, actually about everything that threatens security of the country. So, is that not a top position?

the NSA is an advisory position,he isnt on the field,those on the field know more about whats going on.

mzilakazi:
I already gave it to you as confirmed by the man who has the highest position in the national security. The man who knows everything concerning security of the country.

you know nothing.if it were that palatable,britain would have allowed its media to engage in publicizing the 'charlie hebdo" movement,but predictably,the british media scampered away from publicizing the provocative picture of mohammed,lest they attract terrorist attention.we arent begging britain for anything,we arent an english colony,our NSA was playing a diplomatic tete-a-tete,while the western media was twisting facts.

mzilakazi:
That is total strength which include army, navy and air force. There is no single Nigerian contingent in deployment, Nigeria has ceased all that when they withdrew their armies from Mali leaving behind French forces alone. Tell me how will Nigeria ever deploy soldiers for peacekeeping missions if they them self are in need of such operations in their own country. You should be joking.Did you even know that many soldiers have resigned and others dismissed. Nobody wants to join military anymore because if you die on duty your family will be left to suffer. No benefits at all.SANDF will crash you @Evarn, at least try to compete with the likes of Cameroon, Chad, Ghana and others. You will not make it against SANDF.

citation needed.even you know that you are far out of our league;economy wise{3rd fastest growing economy in 2015,worth $4billion of GDP by 2050},military wise{150 000 men in service as at 2015},population wise{450 million by 2070,3rd largest in the world}

mzilakazi:
That is total strength which include army, navy and air force.

give me proof.not the words of a western media group.

mzilakazi:
Just being abroad for just a day on the president request to go and beg for the British support since the election were just behind the door will make him lose the update of everything. He was sent to ask the British to do something about the security in Nigeria which the Nigerian military couldn't give because they were cowards. This time around the truth needed to come out one way or another, there was no way to duck and dive because the elections are near and only the total of 62 000 soldiers in the military was too small to enforce security in Nigeria.

nonsense.so 62000 soldiers in the army is a small number?,we havent even added the airforce and navy.there are less than 20000 soldiers in the north east.we cant pull away all our troops to the north east and open our country to attack just because of BH.we even have thousands abroad in peacekeeping missions.

Patchesagain:
Dont argue with me

Argue with anthropologists

good that you gave up mr patrick.

saengine:
Hello. Hi. You....yes you. Simple question that i asked....how long has your NSA been abroad? A few years or more probably a few days? He is fully aware of the situation on the ground in Nigeria. Hence he made these comments. Why would a man with such an important title make such striking comments if he himself knew he's not up to date with the situation troops face (or rather runaway from) on the ground? Your soldiers are cowards. Message straight from the top. Full stop.

the NSA isnt the highest defence official.so he isnt the "top"

saengine:
Lmao!!!!!!!! One of the worst excuses ive ever heard. How long has he been abroad? Since before Boko Haram was active?

in Nigeria,things work according to hierachy.the minister for defense is the highest national security official,so once the NSA is abroad,the director of the department for state security stands in the NSA's stead under full command of the minister for defense.if the minister for defense is absent,then the minister for interior can hold his stead.so its possible that the NSA was not fully informed of events on ground.

saengine:
And to what extent has be been briefed? They only briefed him on 5% of what is going on? Or do you think a man who makes such statements has almost the complete picture of what's really going on. Desperation  

you cant expect the NSA to be fully briefed when he is abroad.compilation of evidence and collective analysis takes time,so the NSA may have limited knowledge of events.

MikeCZAR:
can you fast forward this movie to where your military gets involved.

you still dont understand do you?.i guess it would have been too much to expect you to utilize your mental faculties.our military got involved at a critical stage,and you cannot expect magic from them.the politicians didnt take BH seriously in beginning,until BH became too bothersome.but notwithsanding,our troops have recaptured nearly all captured territories.

MikeCZAR:
Do you know who's this Dasuki guy?

Yes, well informed about your military. Oh erase that I meant band of cowards.

he isnt neither the director of the SSS nor is he the CDS,so he has limited info until he is briefed.why dont you concentrate on your nose~diving economy?

MikeCZAR:
Cowards! Bloody cowards.

er....why are you being emotional about it.the NA isnt the SANDF that runs away from a deranged mob of disgruntled kids.

MikeCZAR:
to a coward.

coward?,says who?

mzilakazi:
Buhari has a hand of steel.

and how would you know that?.good God!,dont tell me that you are jacob zuma in disguise!.anyways,buhari does possess an iron fist.

mzilakazi:
My friend NSA has to know everything concerning security of the country. He can never go wrong. The problem with Nigerian military is that they have one spokesperson who always tells the world lies. That man he is just more than the word propaganda.

the army spokeperson,general chris olukolade,sometimes wields the blazing sword of propaganda to counter that of boko haram.propaganda is a tool,and like every other tool,it can be used by both sides of the skirmish.notwithstanding,the military doesnt tell lies,it is the media that exaggerate minor matters.

mzilakazi:
Buhari will do much much better.

wait a minute,what is your relationship with buhari?,is he your crush or something?.anyways,yes,buhari has the potential to do better.

mzilakazi:
To the president and the country. He was on errand to beg for the British support in the fight against BH.

we do not beg,we take,as is our right.the british will never directly support our war against boko haram,every nation of the world considers its national interests before making decisions,and it isnt in the british interest to deploy troops or weapons of war against boko haram.

mzilakazi:
As confirmed by the highest security adviser in your land before the London press, the weapons belong to Nigerian military including those that were never brandished by Boko haram in the video which include artillery guns and six armoured personnel carriers.

Perhaps BH saved them for their next video where they will show them to the world.

i doubt that there will ever be a next video.boko haram uses propaganda more than any other terror group in the world.the NSA cannot have first hand evidence of events as it happened in baga,only the director of the SSS give a more accurate report.

MikeCZAR:
Truthfully speaking Nigerian soldiers are no cowards,they're just victims of poor training standards in the Nigerian military.

it all started with politics.if boko haram had been properly managed by the presidency,senate and parliament from the beginning,it wouldnt have grown to become such a terrifying behemoth.but at the time it all started,president umaru musa yaradua was sick,but even though president yaradua was sick,he still gave the order to arrest mohammed yussuf{the founder of BH} and raze all terrorist facilities in borno.during yaraduas time,we destroyed boko haram's jihadist movement,and mohammed yussuf was later accidentally killed.but president yaradua died without the chance to implement any procedure or response against many disturbing issues.the vice president,goodluck jonathan rose to power.but unfortunately,unlike his predecessor,he was weak,malleable and a tad clueless....he wasnt prepared for the brutal political battles that came with having power.

MikeCZAR:
A South African mechanised battalion group would push the entire Nigerian army to Abuja.

Bunch of cowards

Do you who's this Sambo guy?

sambo dasuki is National Security Adviser to the president.he is a fierce and powerful man,but he is a fool.

mzilakazi:
Everything is fake to you. Perhaps, even your mother and father are fakes.
The reality is:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/22/nigeria-soldiers-cowards-boko-haram

quit being such a monkey.those weapons werent marked with the emblem of the nigerian armed forces and sigil of the nigerian army.it is possible that BH looted our armoury after the battle ended,but it is highly improbable that all those weapons were 'captured' in baga.

MikeCZAR:
Truthfully speaking Nigerian soldiers are no cowards, they're just victims of poor training standards in the Nigerian military.

this statement was erroneously disbursed

mzilakazi:
No amount of weapons can ever change a coward. A coward remains a coward even under the cover of the most sophisticated weapons in the world.

your comments are disgustingly terrifying.

agaugust:
Na d same question I dey ask mister patches

lol.old mr patchypatchy doesn't even know that ethiopia is located on the african continent.he probably thinks ethiopians are gods that ride flaming chariots in the sun.

[quote author=axum post=300288][/quote]you do not consider yourselves black because you are from somalia,a kenyan or ugandan would consider himself black.i wouldnt consider kenyans ugly,they are beautiful,peaceful,and do not practice religious fanatism,unlike their radicalized neighbours.somalia is a failed state,plagued by a violent spate of islamic terrorism that has eaten deep into the region,even NATO cant withstand it.the radical jihadist cult,al shabaab,now exports islamic terror into the peaceful neighbouring kenya.i understand that the emperor of axum,out of the goodness of his heart,made the misguided decision of permitting the arab muslims to reside in the northern somali plains,this region later ceded from axum,due to their muslim identity,to form somalia,which is now a failed state.nigeria also made the same mistake by allowing uthman dan fodio to radicalize our northern region.a failed warthorn state like somalia has a very low chance of ever recovering in the next two centuries.

axum:
You could have said indigenous people of the Horn of Africa, because many people from those ethnic groups are in all the countries of the horn (Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti).
We are also the best looking people, in addition to having a great glorious history.

countries like somalia,eritea,and djibouti broke away from the once vast ethiopian empire,they can be considered 'rogue' nations.while you people may nurture an heroic history,the region of the horn of africa is very unstable,the region has hardly known peace since the italian resistance.the people of the region may even be tagged as violent,wasteful and destructive.as for looking good,yes,i daresay,ethiopians and kenyans look very attractive indeed,the fact that they gain tourist attention and libido confirms the point.

patches689:
black african tribe
Yet again, i must tell you to read the argument and understand the argument before adding your 10 cents
FYI: Ethiopians are considered Eurasian

nonsense.ethiopians arent eurasians,they are black africans.the second most civilized african 'people' after egypt.if the ethiopians{cushites and semenese} are considered eurasians,then the bantu people are also foreign,the ethiopians are far more older than the bantu people.

Patchesagain:
I am talking about bantus here

Again, try understand what is being discussed before adding your 10c

i was correcting your statement about the bantus being the most developed african tribe,you claimed that only the bantus have ever successfully resisted western invasion,which of course,was a lie.

axum:
Ethiopian isn't a tribe. I am Somali, and Ethiopia is made of many ethnic groups the majority being Cushitic/Semetic speakers who are Somali, Afar, Tigrey, Amahara, Oromo and those people have a common ancestor and controlled the Horn of Africa to Southern Egypt at certain times in history and including parts of Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

indeed,i know that ethiopia isnt a singular tribe,just like nigeria isnt a monotribal nation.i was just using the word 'tribe' to unify the ethiopians in my arguement.the word 'nation' would have sounded too foreign and modern.

Patchesagain:
Ethiopians arent black or bantu

Try understand the argument before chipping in your 10 cents

you amuse me,mr patrick of guasteng.you claim that ethiopians arent black,what are they then?,green?.arent ethiopians africans?,i can understand if you claim egyptians arent africans,but ethiopians are indeed africans

Patchesagain:
Not knowing that the bantus reached the highest level of development of all black africans prior to colonization

Not knowing that of all the african peoples, the bantus were the only ones to provide any real resistance to colonization

Brah, there is a reason that even the racist apartheid regeim maintained a full battalion comprised of zulus and the racist rhodesian army was 40% matabele

only the bantu resisted colonization?,what of the ethiopians?.you are a liar mr patrick.the bantus didnt offer much resistance against the british,they werent sophisticated enough to innovate powerful weapons to combat western invasion.unlike the ethiopians,who right from the time of emperor hel salessei who was the last ruler of axum empire{which comprised of ethiopia,somalia,kenya and lower egypt},have always repelled foreign invasion from their land.the ethiopians were the most developed and civilized african tribe.