₦airaland Forum

Risingsunn:
you have said it all. God bless you.

So sorry. God CAN'T bless him/her for that. Okay?

Deicide:
I don't know where Christians learn that bad habits from, it's common among most of them, speaking gibberish with pride.

HABIT? lolzzz

Generalgurus:
Speaking what you don't know to God is very bad.. You don't even know if you are talking to God or Devil in the name of prayer, mind what you speak...
I was taught that its only the Holy Spirit that can help someone to speak in tongue, just like it happened to the Apostles..

Don't learn what you don't know!

Sorry Sir you are so wrong. You don't LEARN how to speak in tongues.. It isn't LEARNT...

Kizzygentle:
Speaking in tongue is a scam. Jesus Christ never spoke in tongue to proof anything. You are only decieving yourselves acting like your speaking in tongues. Most pastors mix different languages in one sentence and claim speaking in tongues. A girl invited me to Christ embassy one day when I was in school and when I went there I was shocked at what I saw. The pastor said if u want to speak in tongues come out and he will pray for them. See d way gullible people came out and after d pastor with fried hair like oyakhilome prayed for them they were all forming speaking in tongues. I wept that day. I was hearing calabar language mixed with hausa in one sentence.


My advice is whatever is ur problem or whatever u need and u need Gods intervention, u don't need to speak in tongues. Be sincere with ur request and have a clean heart and ask God. God will grant ur request so easily.

Happy Sunday and God bless us all.

God have mercy

kress2m1:
We speak in tongues when it suits us, because we are lazy, can't muster the focus to pray in a language known to us, so we take the easy way out and chant nonsense, like the idolaters do.

Since I came to my senses, when people are praying, I always tell them beforehand that if you speak in your so-called tongues, I will simply step outside and let you finish your chants. I will not say amen to it at all. Amen is a signature that I agree with what you are saying, that I'm signing the prayer contract with you.

When, during calmer seasons, I always ask them this question. Suppose we were given $1 Million dollars to share, and I bring a contract to you detailing the share, but it's written in the Chinese language, which I know you can't read or write in, and I ask you to trust me and sign it, will you sign it? The answer has always been No.

If you can't trust me, whom you know, with a contract written in a known language, even though you can't speak it or write in it, why should I trust the gibberish you are spouting, which none of us can interpret, understand or even write down?

Examples of when GOD spoke to individuals directly, and their responses:

1. Samuel - LORD, speak, for your servant hears you. Samuel, then a young boy, heard GOD speak to him clearly, that he initially thought it was Eli calling him.
2. Abraham - He conversed with GOD for a while and even bargained with HIM to save the people of Sodom and Gomorrah.
3. Saul - When GOD spoke to him from heaven, it's attested that the people with Saul, heard a voice, but saw no one, hence their terror. Or does GOD now speak with unbelievers in shakalamaboshegelashobababomagologoraka? That may even have terrified them the more... Acts 26:14 even goes as far as to state that the Voice spoke to them in the Hebrew/Aramaic language!
4. GOD spoke with Elijah
5. When Jesus was transfigured on the mount, the disciples with Him, clearly heard Him discussing with Moses and Elijah, 2 beings we know to be in Heaven, in a language they knew. No spiritual nonsensical language was reported at this event.
6. Finally, when the disciples asked Jesus, teach us how to pray, for goodness sake, what did He tell them? We now have what is called The Lord's prayer.

Why then, despite all these antecedents, would our loving Father in Heaven, send us a language that is terrifying to the ears, sounds like an asylum under riot and makes unbelievers to make jest of HIS word. Is this the comfort that the Holy Spirit brings?

I've said my own. Some will still call me demon possessed or some such nonsense. Let's see whose chosen form of prayer language closely resembles that of demons...

God have mercy

Grayoso:
Another contrarian, as the many here, who just want to oppose a view and gain likes. I was working with the principles of using elimination of probable argument to reach conclusions quicker .

If I had said a Nigerian Uni, you would be same person who will dismiss them as places where PHD's are bought with money as GEJ is forever accused of doing.

You Nigerians are the same who will drag a President for being "certificate-less".

So what/who exactly do you want to accept as indicators?
Man with no certificate is not intelligent and cannot do the job. Man with certificate for academic effort obtained at the pinnacle level of education may still be a dullard also not fit for the job according to you.

If not a mischief maker you will accept we can only accept formal markers as guidance of judgement. I.e level of education, employment history, proof of relevant experience and solution delivery. etc.

Generally, someone with a PHD from a decent institution of education should be intellectually robust and certainly not a dimwit if one knows the meaning of thay word. That is the reality for most people cut or dice it whichever way you want.

All this speech does not exempt a PhD holder
from been 'stupid' or 'unintelligent'. Does it?

Grayoso:
Dr Isa Pantami is the communication minister and a PHD holder from a Scottish university. The buck stops with him. Suffice to say he is no dimwit.

You can argue a case for incompetence but stop casually insulting Nigerian administrative leaders as "dimwits". We are no longer in the era when poorly educated or unintelligent folks held sway as Nigerian public officials. That is simply not the case today.

PhD holder with NO SENSE AT ALL.. Are nt you ashamed of this write up? Yours inclusive

Straightpath:
Next President of Nigeria

In your dreams

Originalsly:
1Corinthians 14:27 -28..... why do you keep dodging this text?... and continue to contradict it? If you speak in tongues to edify yourself shouldn't you be doing so in privacy? If you have the spirit of interpretation.... have you been interpreting what people have been saying in the church? .... what two or the most three people get up to speak in tongues ? You can pretend to not read this and dodge responding..... to edify us all.

Remain in your realm..

floss:
I get your point, thanks for that. But sincerely speaking you should also practice that which you posted up there often.... No one is above mistake, and one shouldn't see correction as some thing bad...Remain blessed.

It's dangerous to have a form of godliness and meanwhile deny the Power (HOLY SPIRIT) therefore. From such turn away. And remember not to be carried away by every wind of doctrine Remain blessed

floss:
The young man you quoted wasn't arguing or in denial of its existence, you didn't get his message. Try not to be in haste so that you don't pass a wrong message with a good intent ....before some one start throwping stones at a glass house.

Pls go read through and come back to your comment here

DorcasShalom:
Thanks so much. It is just language..but i don't understand where people get all they say. May God help us.

They got the tongues from the HOLY SPIRIT as He gave them utterance

Offpoint:
I don't need any spiritual gift that's only beneficial to me...

Good. That it isn't beneficial to you doesnt make it unreal or non existent Does it?

Liposure:
am moved. Holyspirit here i come

Lol.. It's also used during deliverance. My dear it's really a nice experience

Offpoint:
I don't desire it, I have other spiritual gifts I desired.... Not tongues.

Okay Sir.. So you dont talk about it since you had the opportunity to judge for yourself based on your own personal experience. But turned it down

Nelx:
We are just going back and forth. You've provided no counter argument to my assertion's.
Perhaps you have not given the matter much thought. Just think and ask yourself this question 'Does my speaking in tongues edify me and others?'
I'll leave you with your opinion.
Cheers

I dont know the tongues you are speaking.. Mine edifies me. and others since I have got the gift of interpretation of tongues.. But most expedient to it all ,IT EDIFIES ME

Offpoint:
Did anyone confirmed the interpretation was correct?

I have a lot gifts I can ask God for, speaking in today's tongue is not one of them.

Cause anything aside from the pentecostal tongues of preaching the gospel to others in their own tongue is of no use to me.

I have the gift of tongues and also interpretation of tongues . so I know what I m saying. Go and desire it ,come back and tell me your experience.. And dont say it isn't one of those you would desire.. IT'S BEAUTIFUL

Nelx:
So what will you say concerning 1 Cor 14:27-28
If it edifies you, please speak it in your privacy.
The church should edify each other, that's why if there is no one to interpret, they should keep quiet.
They is a place in the Bible where Jesus himself admonished the disciples to pray to God quietly and not as show offs the way the pharasies behave.
To me, speaking abi shouting in tongues is just show off

MY DEAR IT IS NOT SHOW OFF.. As you speak and pray in tongues, messages,directions, answers to some issues are dropped in your spirit..

My dear IT'S NO SHOW OFF

Nelx:
So what will you say concerning 1 Cor 14:27-28
If it edifies you, please speak it in your privacy.
The church should edify each other, that's why if there is no one to interpret, they should keep quiet.
They is a place in the Bible where Jesus himself admonished the disciples to pray to God quietly and not as show offs the way the pharasies behave.
To me, speaking abi shouting in tongues is just show off

My dear BLAST it. The Holy Spirit that gave you isnt complaining.. Is He? Moreover speaking in tongues edifies you. YOU ARE MISSING ALOT. I TELL YOU

wizod:

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I SPEAK IN TONGUES AND I LIKE IT. IT MAKES ME TO BE CONNECTED TO GOD AND BE MORE SPIRITUAL WHEN I'M PRAYING IN TONGUES. I DIDN'T LEARN IT, IT JUST HAPPENED WHEN I GOT BORN AGAIN NEWLY, I WAS SINGING AND PRAISING GOD ONE DAY AND IMMEDIATELY MY VOICED CHANGED AND I BEGAN TO SPEAK IN AN UNKNOWN TONGUE.

THATS IT.. HE MAKES PRAYERS, WORSHIP ,LIFE AND ALL VERY EASY..

Offpoint:
Have you ever heard anyone interprets it? NO


Why does everyone wants to speak, but no one has asked for the spirit of interpretation?

Why are there more speakers than interpreter?

YES Oga.I have. Are you a baby Christian? So sorry I had to ask. Desire it and you ll have it and not have no need to doubt it

It's so wonderful and sweet to be in gatherings where the gifts of the spirits are all at work. People speak in tongues but do not have an idea that they COULD be passing a message to someone in need of it. Someone with the gift of interpretation of tongues ,interpretes the tongues and the message is understood.

If you have nt been or are nt in such gatherings pls find one and you ll enjoy the Holy Spirit and His gifts at work..

Humanoid01:
I was expecting a comment like this. That is not my understanding of the gift of tongues, I wouldn't desire anything that unscriptural.

Really?

Nelx:
This comment is apt.
I believe that speaking in tongues is biblical and from God but as usual, the church of today has corruptted it.
This days, men of God behave as if God does not hear English again. Immediately prayer starts, you'll start, next thing you'll hear is pray in the holy spirit, then the rabbababashobobo mazamaza lekuleukumarama will start.
And it's funny cos everybody is gifted with the gift of tongues but no body can interpret. Like I thought interpretation of tongues is also a gift of the spirit.
Why is it only tongues that every dick and Harry is gifted with, few people have the gift of healing, they cannot discern spirits, no gift of wisdom or understand, abi is it prophesy?
The most annoying is if you are praying in English your thing, they'll come and lay hands on you and start commanding you to speak in tongues. I went to believers loveworld fellowship one day and they told the usual first timers to wait behind. Only for the sister's to start laying hands on all of us telling us to speak in tongues. What nonsense, what if they was a Muslim who was invited by his friend.
Again, I thought the holy spirit doesn't dwell in a sinful person. 90% of these guys speaking in tongues are liars, fornicators, cheater. We know them, we see them.
Finally, that tongues thing is mostly faked by people. I know cos under pressure I have faked speaking it and it's annoying to remember. Also, if you listen to them, you'll know that a particular tongue is been spoken continuously by a particular person all their life.
E.g sister Gloria is always saying yayayayayabezerere suzaya while brother Joseph is always saying rabarobosenterebe.
Fake fake and fake
Please let's be guided and stop making the name of God a thing of mockery.

My dear speaking in tongues edifes you..leave them to speak in tongues..as per the other gift of the spirit, some people have and are still receiving them.. Face your own race and desire ALL the gifts of the spirit and you ll receive them all.. IN THE LAST DAYS I SHALL POUR OUT MY SPIRIT ON ALL FLESH..

Humanoid01:
Some time back in school, someone actually prayed for me, and was trying to "invoke" the gift of tongues into me. Like she was praying and "speaking in tongues" so that I could start speaking in tongues that moment. Aunty pray tire and was expecting that I would start faking it. Honestly, I tried to fake it, but I just couldn't. Why would I stay and start saying nonsense for no reason?

Obviously you NEVER DESIRED it. So you never got filled..

Offpoint:
The pentecostal tongue speaking, which is speaking languages of other tribes is the only acceptable language...

Whatever anyone is speaking today is not a tongue.

There's no point speaking language neither you or your congregation knows the meaning... How the hell then did you know your talking to God when you have no idea what you're saying?

Get to the next level - INTERPRETATION OF TONGUES. Okay?

Golan007:
Another from the indomie generation.

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Abeg sare pass.. So you think I was in secondary school when Abacha was head of state ?

Small pikin like you. Shey dem don pass the batton of IRREDEEMABLE ZOMBIE give you

Golan007:
You completed your NYSC in 2008 which makes you a kid to me.

By then I had already done 8 years as a graduate.

Yet you come here with so much lies.. Which PTF under Buhari were you referring to? So you think people dont go source for information ? I just pity you.. IRREDEEMABLE ZOMBIE

Golan007:
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PTF did more work in 4 years than PDP did in 16.

Ewu nmeeee

babaolofin:
The fact remains that IBOs are very parochial minded to an irrational level that it becomes an absurdity engaging them on objective level on a matter of national discourse or importance. For a man to call Emir Sanusi whistle blowing as CBN governor a false alarm is the reasoning of an Onitsha main market trader. It is Emefiele at CBN that covered the looting. IBO man as CBN governor, Ibo man as Finance Minister, semi IBO as petroleum minister.

If Abacha were to be alive, would they have discovered the money? How much of IBB's loot has been discovered?

Estimated $80 billion was perfectly looted under GEJ by Okonjo Iweala and his kinsmen in a distributed and well arranged fraud. A government that made the highest revenue in the history of Africa from time immemorial till date but saved no one kobo, instead, she borrowed heavily while oil was selling at high price. She spent part of reserve OBJ left. That is the greatest technical fraud in the world. She borrowed to pay salary before leaving office. IBOs noises and cry will never allow us a study of GEJ's stewardship.

You call IBos criminals but how much loot have been traced to them? Isnt it Abachas own we have been repatriating till thsi moment and God knows when it ll end. Your father Buhari 's own ll soon come up. Let's just wait for it. IBO matter kill you there..

Makanakico:
Abacha never intended to use the stashed monies personally, he was advised to stash enormous cash in different central banks of the world to alleviate the effect of looming US sanctions; the US wanted to sanction Nigeria because Abacha wanted to form an alliance to form an African unified currency.
So Abacha should rather be praised because he meant well for Nigeria.
But baby-factory-land people will be here to spill non sense.

Argue with your phone.

Haahahahaha.... Beer parlor gist

aremso:
we take risk to get to the top, govt does not insure the investors on NSE and even if banks fails NDIC only insured depositors to the tune of about 500k irrespective of the amount deposited. If one is afriad of falling the person will not rise

Yea I know all these. Just wanted him/her to know the implication of his /her action and risk involved

spiceeamiee:
Thank you.

Guys please I'm not here to cause trouble. Just want to be fully informed. I was at the MBA office today and there were lots of people there, some doing top up, some rolling over, etc. The lady that attended to me gave me evasive answers that I was not satisfied with and if I ask more, she will tell me to research and I'm like I am here. Why can't you give me an answer? Why are you asking me to research? Especially with regards to if the investment is insured. We were already having an argument until a senior officer came and that one too did not give a straight answer to the questions. I did not want to argue further as I had other places to go to but they did not convince me with their answers so please who knows about their insurance policy?

IT IS NOT INSURED COS IT CAN'T BE.JUST LIKE STOCK MARKET