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Good move by APGA. Any governor aspirant smart enough to choose an Igbo as running mate has won the election by half.

ifyalways:
Honestly excanny which kain style of typing is this?i used my phone to post my earlier replies so i did not detect it.
Its so annoying.
NB;my opinion please!

Is that your contribution, ifysometimes?

I'll re-edit when I get back to my base.

Freewilly:
I think it will help too if Nollywood would start making movies in Igbo like it used to. My parents have dozens of Old Nigerian movies in Igbo we enjoy watching.

Not only are the entertaining my little sisters pick up Igbo words from them.

Well said, Ada anyi. Igbo movies would make good teaching aids. They should just keep them clean for educational purposes.

Eko Ile:
Hausa boy boy, you  ain't making no damn sense,

Stick to your boy boy job, hausa man dey pay top dollar for obedient ibo boy boy. follow the steps of your leaders and continue the boy boy tradition ,


ndo,

It's still better than being Fashola's mai kaya/house boy boy.

1025:
@Andre Uweh,
we have but a very weak[b] ohanaeze ndi ara[/b] whose political interests have over-taken the real objectives of the organisation.
it is important you go and find out what the differences are between a preasure group and a political group.
do you know what it means excite a ppl? in the heat of the northerners demanding for a zoning arrangement that will see them be the next president, a preasure group(ohanaeze) came out to openly support an anti north arrangement. that alone cld expose the igbos living in the north to the brutalities of the northern madmen.
i wld want to take u to an incident that happened in ivory coast when GEJ threatened military actiwhining1st the gbagbo led govt. the citizens showed their anger on nigerian embassy in their country.
if that ohanaeze ndigbo leader had what it takes to decide for ndigbo when it comes to vote, he shld also have what it takes to finance whatsoever course ndigbo have.

If they can't fulfill their roles, they should seek a dissolution.

odumchi:
I think you people are misunderstanding the point, we can also say that Igbos are the greatest and what not but how does that help? Please keep on with your feedback

Dude, i would have thought you had better things doing during your leisure time/boredom time like trying to improve your writing skills, knowledge of history, etc. I'm sorry to say you are a disgrace to Ndigbo as you claim. Do you see Yorubas or Hausas opening this kinds of dumb threads. If you are suffering personally from poverty and low education, why not go to college to improve your life, or develop entrepreneurial skills if you already have an education. You sound boring with your whining.

@post

Where do you guys really come from? Are you sure y'all Igbos? Which Igbo is suffering in Yorubaland?

You dont even know that 'bendel' is not an ethnic group or still exists. Dude, if you're bored, why not take time out to see a doc?

Absolute rubbish. No one is splitting this country. Nigeria will forever remain one indivisible entity.

bashr4:
i have noticed that a lot of igbos in lagos ,abuja and abroad cant even speak igbo or have not even been to igboland , igbo parents need to do more to make their kids more igbotic, the yorubas seems to be doing a better job in terms of teaching their kids their language and culture.

That's because most of them live in Lagos, a city alive with Yoruba-speaking. Most times, kids pick up a language, not necessarily from their parents, but from interacting with the community in which they live. I know a couple of Yoruba folks who find it hard to speak Yoruba because of growing up in the North, but can sell you in Hausa.

Try sending your kids to do part of their schooling in Alaigbo during their formative years and see if they'll not floor you in Igbo.

I do not think Igbo language can die in Igbo land. Maybe in the diaspora.

I am using this medium to express my dissatisfaction over neglect of Igbo Language by our people the Igbos.
In the recent Hausa programme In B.B.C. entitled “TABA I{IDI TABA KARATU” it was announced that Igbo Language is one of the Languages that will soon be forgotten on earth.

Infact, when I heard this, I nearly collapsed because this Hause(sic) BBC programme does not talk cock and bull stories. Whatever it says is always truth. . I have tested them in several occasions and proved their truthfulness.

This information had caused me sleepless night because ,what binds me with other Igbo people in other states will soon be no more.

This should not be taken lightly. Igbo leaders. Should not stand by to wait and see the day this prophecy will come to pass?
When this type of prophecy came to the people of Nineveh in the bible in the book of Jonah their leaders did not waste time or wait until everything spoils. As they say” action speaks louder than Voice”
What the king of Nineveh did was to declare a fasting and the people obeyed him and after the ‘fasting, God withdrew His impending judgment against the land. Most of our people are like the woman who went one day to see her father-in-law, when she saw him, because of shame, she removed the wrapper she was tying and covered her face with it and left the most important private area of her body open.

Like this woman, most of our people place importance on things that are not important. And place less emphasis on what is very important. They want to imitate Oyibo culture but Oyibo is not ready to imitate their culture. They are’ ashamed of their mother tongue that they can speak without any mistake but not ashamed of the Oyibo’ Language they speak ‘With more than ninety-nine grammatical errors.
If you doubt what I am saying, go to where palm-wine is sold in the evening. You will hear some expressions that even the owner of English language has not heard or spoken since he was born.

The cause of all these nonsense is because our people are not patriotic to their culture and language. Go to our neighbouring majority tribes like Yorubas and Hausas their professors prefer speaking their language to English Language.
But the parents of Nursery school children will prefer their children speaking French or German instead of their mother tongue.

As a ‘school proprietor, if l-tell you the response of our school leavers who
Come for employment as teachers towards Igbo language, you will were. A giri in primary six in my school followed her elder sister to her University campus, this happened during our. mid-term break. To this girl’s greatest surprise, She saw that the 1gbo alphabet which is taught in Nursery one and two in our school is what the undergraduants are learning.

Now my question is, what will debar(sic) our Nursery three pupils to become lecturers in Igbo departments in our universities?
When I went to Kano State with my elder brother some years ago, , ,I was forced to learn Hausa language and understand it under six months. These are people who are patriotic over· their language. Even those educated ones, if you speak English language to them, they respond in Hausa language. So no language is greater than another, it depends on how the owners of the language handle it.

Nobody can boast of perfection in Engiish’ language except perhaps, the owners of the language.
What I always do is, what I did not get clear in ‘English language in the B.B.C., V.O.A or Dutch Radio Stations, I quickly run to these stations ‘in their Hausa services and get it c1earer. Many of our Igbo people are like Mr. Bat who is not a bird and not also an animal
Their mother tongue they hate yet English language they do not understand.
This has made many of them political illiterates. B.B.C. broadcass four programmes everyday in Hausa ‘language. V.G.A the same and many other powerful international stations.

So I am calling on the’ Igbo stakeholders to make our people politically informed by rescuing the language. This will be possible by registering it in the powerful international stations like B.B.C . Voice of America, Dutch Radio etc. so that It will be part of their programmes. This will save the language from death and our people will see the superiority of it and make use of it judiciously like our neghbouring majority tribes in this Country Nigeria .

E.A

www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/features/freekick/2011/jan/12/freekick-12-01-2011-003.htm

Obiagu1:
It's not true, they are not treated like animals! One of the richest male that reside in my town in Anambra is from Ebonyi, he is a millionaire, whereas nearly all male child from my town live outside the town. There are many of them, in fact, if you come to my town before Easter or Christmas, almost every man between 25 and 45 is from Ebonyi state.

Nwa aba thing is just name calling that Igbos do alot and has nothing to do with how they are treated.

Nwa Aba isn't derogatory, is it?

Akhenaten:
My question is, why do Igbos continue to go up North?

Is our love for money that great? For some reason, I have no pity for my brothers and sisters up North.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Why are you talking like this? Are Igbos the only southerners living in the North(Jos)?

Last year over 150 Yorubas were murdered. Did they ask all Yorubas to leave jos(I know they dont ask for their dead).

Have the hausa fled jos?

If you are brave enough to go up North. Protect yourself. Fight back or die as a weaklings. All Igbos up there knows this. So they should be prepared to be hit or go back home.

Sheer nonsensical arrogance. Pride goes before a fall.

alj harem1:
and if i am igbo then why do they say i am not igbo then

Rubbish. You can only be Igbo if your father is Igbo.

alj harem1:
and if i am in a war, and i know that if i give you you money back you will start another war, why would i now give it to you back so you can kill me or even worse start another war

I put that in because of your claims that those monies were petty and small. At least you agreed with me that it was not some little change, hence the fear to return them to their owners.

alj harem1:
1.) there houses were bombed in biafra but they lost(and hear again lost) the war, so it is a favour, you hear me

2.)now you are talking that it makes no difference, but those that had houses then know what i mean

also, it is within the nations right not to give back their properties because again they lost the war,,haba moreover the indigenes of lagos were kind to even accept them into there properties back, is ohaneze and other igbo organisation not clamouring for there houses back in port-harcount, as i said earlier you own no house so you can not talk

You talk as if all Igbos packed their bags and headed for Lagos. Some weren't even based in Western Nigeria. Now I ask you. Other Igbos that returned to their former locations when their houses was plundered and seized, did they die of homelessness? I said it made no fukcing difference. Moreover it's theirs and when they lost the war they became nigerians again, not foreigners. There no stupi.d favour here. If you gave them new residences. That might be considered a help.

yes some yoruba people and
even some northerners keep
igbo children from the war when
there parents adamantly when
back to the east although they
were warn by there yoruba
neighbour just like during census
when all the igbos ran back to
the east for counting

This is the most ridiculous posts I've ever read from you. Which Igbo parent will leave his kids behind and run to Biafra. Really silly. Those who risked remaining stayed with their children. Those who left, left with them. Stop talking nonsense.

what thousands of pounds are
you talking about,,,, how
many igbos back then own 100
pounds tell me even 30 pounds
tell me. majority of the people
back then did not have an
account not to even talk of
thousands in banks.

You think if it were some petty money, it makes sense to seize them. Those monies were enough to prosecute another war. Why was an account not given of those monies, after all they were in the banks with all the records. Why the fear to return the accounts to their owners.

jason123:
Was it the yorubas that seized it or Nigeria? It was just fortunate that awo was the financial minister then.

You said nigerians helped Igbos? And I disproved you and you start shift the goal posts. I didn't even mention Yorubas in my points. But if you think Yorubas were also involved in that theft. I guess your guilt is judging you.

alj harem1:
they were given back there houses in lagos even though they bombed lagos in the war

2.) the indigenes of lagos keep there properties for them after the war ( i was there myself)

3.) some of the parents that asked there yoruba neighbour to keep there children save were given back to there igbo parents without any harm on them ( this i witness myself)

4.) the cost of the war was enormous and yet they were still given back 20 pounds considering the cost of food and housing then ( a bag of rice was 2.50, to rent an accomodation then was 0.50 a month)

5.) after the war, some igbos were given jobs as civil servant and teachers then( the highest payed people back then were teacher of 50 pounds)

and it goes on and on and on

1. Were their houses not also bombed in Biafra

2. If they had stolen them like it was done in other parts of the country, it wouldn't have made any difference. After all, it's theirs. Can you help me with my own properties? Nonsense.

3. Asked Yorubas to keep their children and went where? Does that makes sense to you? What about the millions of children that were starved to death by Awo and Adekunle?

4. They were given back 20 pounds? What about the remaining thousands of pounds they own? Where's the money?

5. That's a big lie. Were they given jobs or purged from the civil service. Why did you think some Igbos took to trading.

jason123:
To my Igbo peeps,

May pride and arrogance not be your down fall!!! Would you have been where you are today if not for the Nigerians (the same nigerians you curse and despise all day long on any website you go) that brought you up when you were down, assimilated you (especially the yorubas) and even supported your endeavours? I personally admire your industrious nature but you cannot say you did not benefit from the open arms your southern brothers especially the yorubas.

You were making some good point before spoiling it with some backward tribalistic rant. What assimilation were you talking about? You mean the 20 pounds419 assimilation? What about the remaining thousands of pounds owned by Igbos in their bank accounts? You assimilated those into your pockets.

How much those it cost to build a house in PH then? Is it worth tens of thousands of pounds that were considered seized biafran accounts in banks in Lagos. I can see your help indeed!

If I may even ask you. Can you mention the help Igbos recieved after the war? Were they given some loan to start business or what? Please tell me.

jason123:
To my Igbo peeps,

May pride and arrogance not be your down fall!!! Would you have been where you are today if not for the Nigerians (the same nigerians you curse and despise all day long on any website you go) that brought you up when you were down, assimilated you (especially the yorubas) and even supported your endeavours? I personally admire your industrious nature but you cannot say you did not benefit from the open arms your southern brothers especially the yorubas.

You were making some good point before spoiling it with some backward tribalistic rant. What assimilation were you talking about? You mean the 20 pounds419 assimilation? What about the remaining thousands of pounds owned by Igbos in their bank accounts? You assimilated those into your pockets.

How much those it cost to build a house in PH then? Is it worth tens of thousands of pounds that were considered seized biafran accounts in banks in Lagos. I can see your help indeed!

If I may even ask you. Can you mention the help Igbos recieved after the war? Were they given some loan to start business or what? Please tell me.

jason123:
To my Igbo peeps,

May pride and arrogance not be your down fall!!! Would you have been where you are today if not for the Nigerians (the same nigerians you curse and despise all day long on any website you go) that brought you up when you were down, assimilated you (especially the yorubas) and even supported your endeavours? I personally admire your industrious nature but you cannot say you did not benefit from the open arms your southern brothers especially the yorubas.

You were making some good point before spoiling it with some backward tribalistic rant. What assimilation were you talking about? You mean the 20 pounds419 assimilation? What about the remaining thousands of pounds owned by Igbos in their bank accounts? You assimilated those into your pockets.

How much those it cost to build a house in PH then? Is it worth tens of thousands of pounds that were considered seized biafran accounts in banks in Lagos. I can see your help indeed!

Missy85:
excanny, some of my comments address statements I've read in other threads. there's no suggestion than anyone on this thread said igbos were superior for instance.

But you guys need to listen to what some of your country people are saying.

If there's some views out there that igbo's chestbeating is a little irritating, is it not worth listening?

These are your pre-conceived thoughts. Folks like Babapupa brag about Lagos, Bluetooth, Aigbofa, Sjeezy talk about how most civilised their Yorubaland is. Have you ever considered their posts as chestbeating, no? Tell me, is their chestbeating also annoying to you or not?

But when one Igbo poster makes a similar sentence as those folks I listed, Igbos become arrogant and do a lot of annoying chestbeating.

Just like it's been pointed out before tribalism blinds one that he becomes too complacent, while others are making progress.

No. It's not worth discussing. It's an internal issue. Ohaneze should handle that.

oludashmi:
There have been thread upon threads on this topic and similar ones, discrimination on who are core igbos and who are not, threads on who should be igbo and who should not but they have always ended with pages of insults and arguments. . . so I dont think threads like this should continue cos it may not make the difference you expect.

Just my opinion

He's talking about something else. To help you understand, it's more like the Ijebu/Ogun state discrimination that goes on in Yoruba land(pls tribalists I only used the Yoruba example to help her understand what the poster is saying)

Missy85:
harem, well said. One of the best contributions to this debate.

the Igbos need a huge dose of humility.

without hausas, yorubas & the others, igbos will not have made as much of the admirable progress they have made.

Yes you are industrious, hardworkind, and determined, but no:

You are not superior to other nigerians
You are not cleverer than the rest
You do not control lagos economy, though you make a very valuable contribution
You do not constitute 40% of lagos population
It isnt true that nigerians would starve without Igbos

But as I said, you guys, like the other nigerians are making a valuable contribution to the nation

This is one of the most ignorant post I've seen on this thread so far. Show me where an Igbo poster here posted that Igbos are better than other nigerians. Show me.