₦airaland Forum

Ileke-IdI:
So that you can later use her identity to insult her? She's not from Ekiti. If you want to know, ask her.

Hey, stop being paranoid. You know I got much lofs for them. My connection with them remains ever cordial.

Googles seem very Ekiti to me though. I still dig am besides the ginja ginja stuff.

Isale_gan2=fstranger

Stop deluding yourself

I think the hausas do it best.

I have the opinion that this problem is largely as a result of living too much in diaspora.

^^^
Where are you coming from?

Wrong section.

alj harem:
OK brother, i perfectly understand what you are saying but if that is the case, most Yoruba's go by the name fadeye, etc does that mean they are also outcast (i know they are osu) because my say in Lagos about 80% of the people i meant we either fa something (ifa) or sangodeyi (Sango) or even ogunsola (ogun) etc,,,, please i would like you knowledge on this

thanks

I dont think you deserve to be taught about Igbo culture. Your posting history have been largely anti-Igbo.

Hopejoy:
@ Excanny. I quite agree and share the same view with you. 'Outcast' are everywhere but largely depends on how a particular culture sees them. Igbos (part) is barbaric in nature on this issue.

The story was a true one cos i witnessed it all. I believe some day, this barbaric attitude will stop for us to move forward. It is also worthy of note that in some Igbo land these people dorminate and rule over the free born while in some other parts, they are marginalised. Then in other places they dont even know what it is even though they are Igbos. Other places, there is equal right as a free born dare not call the other an outcast or all hell will let loose.

If I were you, I'll mind the way I use 'barbaric'. I dont think 'barbaric' describes the osu caste system. I think I'll rather stick with discrimination.

excanny:
Is googles also from ekiti?

Ileke-nyash, why are you avoiding my question?

alj harem:
tewmuch, i do not think u understand what tewmuch has posted

he is saying there are no osu in there land,,, he said those surnames are given to families that have worshiped some god in the olden days

i really do not think there are osu's in yorubaland or anywhere else expect maybe briton (gypsis) but all in all i will be happy if that part of our culture is gone

I understood what Tewmuch is saying. But I'm going by the sense of the word 'osu' which means those devoted to the service of the gods. His own point is that such 'devoted' ones are not considered outcasts in his place. I agree, but that doesn't change the fact that their family is tied to those gods. It's just the belief system that determines how you consider certain concepts.

^^^
Then you dont know what an Osu is. That you dont discriminate against them in your place doesn't make it different from the way they would have been treated were it in Igbo land.



Idol worshipping is not just extolled in Igbo land. Osus are in the sense of the world supposed to be given special respect, since they are in the service of the gods.

Like I previously said, Osus are everywhere in the world. The only difference is that they are seen as ill-luck in Igboland and thus treated as  'outcasts', while in other lands they are revered and respected.

Moreover, this isn't about Yoruba vs Igbo thing. I've been trying to get similar situations from other cultures, though it's hard since not much is published about these peoples. So take your tribalistic mind elsewhere.

EDITED: Slightly

There should be a law that makes it a criminal offence, and those still practising it should be convicted and thrown behind bars.

In many parts of Nigeria there are also those sacrificed to idols and confirmed Osu's. Some even have the names of such deities as their surnames(Ifatoye, Sangogbemi, etc). I dont see why it should be a big deal in Alaigbo.

@ Base 1

The reason why I posted that article was because of this statement you made earlierI

back in the days a
house must have at least a
professor or that family was
looked down upon. It was a
taboo to have someone be an
apprentice of any trade, it was
surely frowned upon.

I was also wondering when the article said that in the 50's and 60's every Ekiti household has at least one professor. Now, my question is, how many people went to school in those days to have resulted in such a claim?

Even in this age and time when people have realized the importance of a formal education, I dont think any place in Nigeria has a professor to a family ratio, no?

Honestly, I still find those claims hard to believe, except someone comes to prove it.

Subscribing,

Wrong section tho

alj harem1:


can you explain how

we are like you people in the south but just of different believes

all you see of boko haram and etc are all thugs trying to make us look bad

most of us do not even know some of the atrocities some of our brothers commit

and yes i am half igbo and leaved in igboland for some years, but i know it is a bit odd and must of my igbo brothers do not like that but they will post for about 50 pages for an ika man that do not want to be called igbo

freewilly, you have to learn to judge people for who they are not the preconception u have about them

The reason why they are not taking you serious is because of the hypocrisy you display. You cannot be bashing Igbos, and expect them to see you as one of them.

Even if you are not half-Igbo(as you all of a sudden now claim) there's no reason to deny you Igbo citizenship if you aspire to have one. The other day, there was this Yoruba dude who said he wanted to renounce his Yoruba-ness, and gave his reason. We all gave him an open welcome. 

Let me give you some tips that could make the Igbos see you are one of them.

1. You should not be insulting the Igbos. Ojukwu is a respected figure in Igboland, no matter what.

2. If you really want to be seen as Igbo, you should be always seen defend Igbos whenever they are being smeared. I've never seen you do this.

3. Interest/Proficiency in Igbo language could score you some good points.

If you've been doing this, nobody would laugh at you whenever you say you are Igbo.

@Freewilly

Sis, Happy New year. I've missed you. You one of those Igbo women that make me proud here. Can I send in my application?

Cherechi-Allow God to decide/judge in his own time

Chetachi-Never forget God

Also let me know which part of Igbo land your mate is from, I'll try to get some of their specific names, or modify given ones to his dialect. The ones I gave are common in Abia and Imo.

What amazes me is that she's alleged to be a Ph.D holder. How can a woman so educated agree to be someone's fourth wife?

She just allowed herself to be used to complete a political agenda. Some women are just too desperate!

It might be unrelated.

Ileke-IdI:
lol ahaha, of course you missed me You have no other choice 

Is googles also from ekiti?

^^^ lol.

Hey, omalincha nwa, Ola ukwu. Happy new year.

How u dey. I miss you.

I'll give it to Becomrich aka Musiwa aka Mukima(sounds like Mukina2)

I'll only not forgive him for making embarrass myself laughing when others dont know my reason for laughing.

Ekiti believed to be fountain of professors - No facts and unverifiable.

In reality, Ekiti=fountain of narcotics - Fact and verified.

[size=22pt]Oni, Afe Babalola, Ogunlade, others
diagnose Ekiti[/size]

February 13, 2010
By Wale AKinola

In the 1950s and 1960s, the main
agenda of the Ekiti people was
education.
So high was education on the priority list
of Ekiti, then in the Western Region,
that virtually every household had a
professor.
But, with time, the situation changed.
The Ekiti people no longer paid
attention to education.
So bad was the situation in the
immediate past that the people now in
their own state (Ekiti) were ranked very
low in public examinations. Not quite
long ago, the state was said to be
among the last eight in the West African
Senior School Certificate Examination
(WASSCE). The situation was frightening.
The state slogan, Fountain of
Knowledge, was becoming an anathema.
But the man at the helm of affairs in the
state, Governor Segun Oni, determined
to reverse the situation, said the
fortunes of education in the state were
returning, thanks to the pragmatic
policies of his administration.
Oni linked the downturn in education in
the state to the peoples poor economic
status.
“Before, an average Nigerian
believed that to every household in Ekiti,
there was always a professor or
professors. But this trend has gone
down because of the poor economic
status of our people and that is why we
are packaging a scholarship from
primary school to the Ph.D level for our
people to bring back the old glory,â €
the governor said at a parley of the
stakeholders of Ekiti where he rendered
the account of his stewardship. It was
the third of such programme by Oni
aptly tagged, â €œState of the State 3″
since 2007 when he first assumed office.

www.vanguardngr.com/2010/02/oni-afe-babalola-ogunlade-others-diagnose-ekiti/

I couldn't have said it better.

If that man has been left uncared for, this same people will come to say Igbo this Igbo that. Now he's given the proper attention, they are now concerned about 'millions' of Anambra children. Talk of STARK HYPOCRISY.

Instead of seeing the good aspect of what happened like first taking the man to one of our local hospital, before been flown abroad. Some ignoramus were busy screaming he's probably in a hospital somewhere in ngbatiland. They always like living in past glory and in denial. Which hospital can one go to in Yoruba land? The rickety LUTH? Or UCH?

Dagrin and co all met their waterloo in those glorified 'clinics' that you think are the best.

Folks like the OP should just STFU. You have no true motives.

^^^Looks cool. What's the meaning?

cheikh:
m@Aproko,@babyosisi&@Kojeiwa- Like you have pointed out/identified correctly, perhaps some of the 'Yoruba' who seem to fall foul of ethnic 'parochialism/chauvinism' are not 'exposed' within the Nigerian context. Also, I'll strongly suggest, perhaps, other Nigerians should show some understanding/sympathy towards the 'ignorant' Yoruba. The "Yoruba' like the rest Nigerians,were the victims of the Nigerian colonial experience which made it possible for everything administrative, economic,political, educational and health/hospitals, Airport etc, to be cited in Lagos/Western part of the country hence the compulsion on the rest of Nigerians to gravitate towards Lagos/West invariably. The indigene/Yoruba of the South West of Nigeria did not have any compelling reason/need/desire whatsoever to reach out/ travel besides going abroad, let alone into the Nigerian hinterland; For what? Everything related to work or life support system/government was cited in Lagos/ South-West of the country, until most recently when the 'administrative' capital was moved to Abuja- Nothing much have changed since the colonial incursion/settlement in Lagos/Nigeria . It's a little foolhardy to expect a person/ 'victim' who's never had the good fortune/misfortune of travelling beyond their immediate 'homeland' not to make some 'mistakes' or be a little narrow minded/ ignorant of other Nigerians until they actually encounter them- considering the fact that the Nigerian educational system/content(s) is not exactly wholesome-Is it ? I think a little generosity of spirit is required of all of us towards each other. Nobody has monopoly of ignorance/knowledge. Nollywood may appear to be Igbo dominated but who are the majority 'Stars' and perhaps some of the best movie makers in the Nollywood Industry? Are they actually Igbo? Their names and ethnic origins are certainly not Igbo I think. Nevertheless, why can't Nigerians celebrate the good/ only authentic product & export to come out of Africa(Nigeria)-Pls see the latest copy of 'The Economist' 18-31 Dec. 2010. 'The Yoruba' like other Nigerians, are mere 'victims' of the general ignorance pervasive amongst Nigerians . After all the British because they colonised/ruled two-third of the world also make crass assumptions/ thinking everybody speaks English.The Imperialist is a 'victim' of the "empire Syndrome", perhaps from a different perspective- Power! Some 'Yoruba' presumptuously think everyone in Lagos or Nigeria understands/speaks Yoruba language because of what you correctly pointed out- 'lack of exposure'/ ignorant of other Nigerians beyond the South-West.Pls bear in mind that the Yoruba never had the need to go beyond the South West because of the 'Colonial' arrangement of the Nigerian economy. As you can see colonialism affected everyone obliquely/overtly

Good post!

Let say it was the other way round. Like Nigeria's economy being based by the colonialists in a place like Calabar, and Yorubas have to migrate eastward(not that they dont do. I mean in large quantities) I think most would be more conversant with these ethnic groups they mistake for Igbos.

On the other hand, the Efiks/I bibio/Annangs, etc would have been erroneously calling other Nigerians Yoruba.

But I think all depends on modesty. People should be interested in learning about others, instead of making wrong annoying assumptions.

Rousseau:
I support an intra-party debate. The reason I support this motion is due to the fact, that people have their own personal views on the issue. It would be refreshing to hear their stances on the various issues.

Even in the United States, you see inter-party debates. During the 2008 elections, President Obama had to debate many challengers from within his party before he was able to challenge the Republican candidate.

Although Nigeria's democracy is largely patterned after the American system, it differs in terms of system of primary elections.

The American public who are registered voters are allowed to take part in party primaries(with slight differences from state to state). So, it makes sense if intra-party debates are done.

What is the purpose of having election debates? Simply put, to guide voting choices.

When you hold intra-party debates that are aired to the members of the public, yet they are unable to vote, you have defeated the very purpose for organising such debates.

lagbaja20:
A one time post-primaries debate cannot and will not address all pertinent issues.

Well the pubic votes during the primaries. The people voting at the primaries are Nigerians/representative of Nigerians, isnt it?

Which representatives? The ones that rigged themselves into offices? Do they even give an eff about the nigerian public?

Of what use is an intra-party debate in Nigeria when the public can not vote in the primaries?

IMO, it's of no use. The party to party debate still makes some sense at least for now.

^^^ What's your native name, darky?0

Ladies, why y'all fighting Mr. Justwise?

Why? Why? Why?

The dude is our cool guy, and we love him.

I know you are trying to find out his relationship status, but we are giving him the best babe here, subject to the approval of NL guys.

I think what you should be doing is busying yourselves submitting your CVs before the deadline, instead of picking up fights.

Bottomline: Make lof, not war. Except on scammers.

segun, segun, segun

How many times did I call you?

Oyinda, trying to claim anything as Yoruba.