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Gentlemen and honourable veterans, guess who’s back…

I’ve missed you all. All this while I’ve being watching the discussions going on here from Israel-Palestine to South Africa’s rugby victory to Nigeria’s latest weapons acquisitions and so on and so forth. I had no clue I could login on Nairaland again, my goofy ass thought my change of phone meant I lost my login details forever.

Now where were we, what’s trending on the thread

Shaytun:
Russia’s quest to secure a buyer for its fifth-generation Su-75 Checkmate fighter jet appears to yield results, with Nigeria reportedly showing keen interest in acquiring this single-engine stealth aircraft.


https://www.eurasiantimes.com/su-75-checkmate-russia-finds-a-potential-customer-for-its/?amp

Su-75...?? NIBO!!! You go explain tire, no evidence.

Meanwhile, a funny news report on my dearest country where everything is used till Thy kingdom come...

SuperSixSeven:
Strangely they show the ship model in its current condition and do not give any details about the intended upgrade.

I don't think there will be much significant upgrade to the ship, just modernisation of it's systems to present date standards so it can serve as a proper training platform for the new incoming frigate

GreenandGold:
She could have been named after Dabulamanzi kaMpande, who led amaZulu against the British at Isandlwana.

Dabulamanzi is the perfect name, I mean "split the waters"....an opportunity forever missed right there.

Mhmm tell us more about Great Mzansi warriors, the known and unknown...

kabe1:
The F-7s are simply not reliable.

Even China has retired it's F-7 fleet and replaced them with the J-10. But naija's situation is entirely different. Everything is used till Thy kingdom come. Hopefully we don't hear of an Alpha Jet crash in another weeks time, it's high time they also got replaced and the M346 FA jets are yet to arrive.

kabe1:
We only recently just bought this aircraft. It has now crashed.

The Nigerian Air Force had lost all it's FT-7 aircrafts and only recently purchased replacements.

Now the replacement is gone.

The Airforce needs complete replacement of the F-7NI jets with JF-17s

jteku:
A Nigerian Air Force FT-7NI trainer aircraft has crashed in Makurdi

Haaaaaah, another one. The airforce needs complete replacement of the F-7Ni jets with JF-17s.

tutudesz:
What the MRAP name

That's definitely a Proforce ARA mk2

The Army's inventory is reasonable. We just need a beef up in rocket artillery, replacement of the old tanks with new modern ones and more of locally made armoured vehicles.
By the way, was any of Proforce's vehicles not on display...??

Nemesis4you:
Tapas development trials finished finally

If they have something like the Tapas and Rustom drone, can't they just wait for it to enter mass production rather than squander 3 billion dollars on 12 units of MQ-9 Reaper drones, one of which was unforgettably downed by the "fuel dump" of a Su-27.
Then in place of their indigenous drones commissioned into service they can operate any available aircraft for reconnaissance.
3 billion dollars can get them 24 Rafale aircrafts.

Bacteria8:
The ships are sitting ducks as soon as they entered our territorial waters... needless to mention docking in our stations.

However, I personally have serious problems with foreign personnels bearing arms on my land.

Don't worry just move on with your life...you can't understand.

Sitting ducks as in how ...??
Their ships are most likely stealth so no way we can detect them. Even if our falcon eye system detects them, there is nothing we can do cause they have modern sophisticated, air defense systems, anti ship/land attack missiles, torpedoes and of course,naval guns. Meanwhile the Nigerian Navy only has patrol vessels with naval guns, not even one ship with a chaff/decoy launcher .

I watched a video of India's Presidential Fleet Review 2022 and compared it to Nigeria's Presidential Fleet Review 2023. I almost felt like crying .
Sha anyhow e go be we will get there by God's Grace.

kabe1:
Chinese Navy Escort Task Group (ETG) 162 comprising MSL Destroyer NANNING, MSL Frigate SANYA, and Supply Ship WEISHANHU arrived off Lagos 2 July 2023. MSL Destroyer NANNING only berthed for a Port call from 2-6 July 2023. The outgoing Flag Officer Commanding Western Naval Command, Rear Admiral JD Akpan received the Chinese Navy Ship. This visit is geared towards strengthening the bilateral relations between Nigeria and China.
#OnwardTogether

The fourth pic, how dare that Chinese Captain look a Rear Admiral in the eye and shake him with that upright standing position and mischievous-like smile. It looks almost as if the Captain is higher than the Rear Admiral in rank .

Bacteria8:
The ships are sitting ducks as soon as they entered our territorial waters... needless to mention docking in our stations.

However, I personally have serious problems with foreign personnels bearing arms on my land.

Don't worry just move on with your life...you can't understand.

Don't be so paranoid, the Chinese are very much welcome in Nigeria. It's not as if the books of history knows them to cause trouble wherever their military sets foot.
So take a chill pill and enjoy the diplomatic moment.

Bacteria8:
Lol... The travesty came to the expected end of course

Western powers - 0

Vladimir Oluwadamilare Putin - 1

Everybody give this man a round of applause. Yoruba demons no dey ever looseguard. We're proud of our Yoruba brother from another motherland

Bacteria8:
By the way, what in the name of gentle Jesus is this

I'm guessing the plane is going to be refurbished for use by UkraiNATO troops . What a generous donation by the South African government.

ProfCaspian:
US Air Force Academy Class of 2023 ft the Thunderbirds

The same graduation ceremony that Joe Biden fell face flat on the stage . Even former President Buhari at age 72 did not cause any embarrassment in a NDA ceremony

kabe1:
To be honest, I really don't know the difference between the Wing Long II and CH-4.

Just what I was about ask...

Faithful007:
I was also provoked. Where's my commendation

Special Delivery on its way

Lurker4Long:

I like your composure and reluctance to join the insult frenzy despite being provoked. You just responded with the smiling emoji, it shows maturity on your side. Sorry you're going to have to stick with us like that on the thread, we Nigerians be crazy upstairs at times🤪. I think this is one of the many reasons Kabe1 left this thread. Unnecessary arguments and too much derailing.

AskiaHarem:
But they don’t love Africa…..

And we don't love NATO Gangsters either. It's as simple as that. But why would you say they don't love Africa??

And for my awesome saffers, is your ANC govt still under pressure of getting Mr Vladmir Putin arrested whenever he's on a visit?? Just asking for a friend .

Flanker:
I see that some are still naive, NATO is a military organization which aims to establish its regional and global dominance. protect its areas of influence and their interests in all countries of the world.

NATO operations in Libya, Ivory Coast, irak , the troops deployed in Mali, in Niger, djibouti , in all africa are only there to protect the interests of large European and American companies and .to support the governments under their control and to threaten the countries which block their interests.

this AFRICOM since 2009 has been trying to build their headquarters in Africa, they have held discussions with Algeria, South Africa, Nigeria, Morocco.. all have refused the construction of this headquarters in Africa.

Nigeria is very much surrounded by foreign military bases. Anyone here still thinks we don't need sophisticated defence assets including stealth frigates??

davefurn:
US needs to start accepting African nations into NATO. If it will be possible, it will mean a lot

In what sense??

kabe1:
The tenure of President Buhari officially ends tomorrow, May 29th.

The President wasn't great for the economy, but he was near excellent for the military comparing from where we were under President GEJ.

This is a military thread, I have confidence to say the military is in way better hands today than under all the previous President's since the advent of civilian rule in 1999.

Whether you love Buhari or hate him, you must admit that he did the best that he was capable of. He did what he thought was right. For better or for worse.

Instead of wasting insulting the new President like so many Nigerians like to do, same treatment they gave to Buhari and Jonathan, we should instead pull in our resources, ensure that Tinubu's era brings Nigeria prosperity.

You've said it all. When Nigeria finally attains a state of peace and stabilization, that man Baba Buhari deserves a great amount of credit to his name for his contributions. The military was bolstered up to levels not seen since the Shehu Shagari administration. Boko Haram has been reduced to petty bandits who carryout cowardly hit and run attacks. We no longer hear of suicide bomb attacks or Car bomb attacks. Boko Haram hasn't broadcasted itself for the past 8 years making despicable demands. No one even cares of the whereabouts of Abubakar Shekau, he's vanished like thin air. Nigeria made it's presence strongly felt in ECOWAS missions since the Buhari administration. The military has been set on a reasonable path of self reliance and by God's Grace in the next ten years, Nigeria should be over 50% self reliant in weapons making.
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By the way, does anyone have any update on the NASENI made helicopter that was supposed to be inaugurated before the end of the Buhari administration, I have waited patiently enough to see it fly.

davefurn:
The sudden us and Nigeria bromance is sus

. The delegation are coming for the presidential inauguration, nothing more, nothing less. Hopefully they get out faster than they come in. Ever since the commissioning of the Dangote Refinery, I've been having nightmares of a country exporting demoCRAZY and freeDOOM to Nigeria .

bidexiii:
#Sudan the rapid support forces have shot down a mig fighter jet over Khartoum, one of the two ejected pilots was captured alive.... The conflict is looking to be a stalemate with both side making little or no gain, the RSF controls more than 80% of the capital

Paramilitary wiping the ass of a full fledged military?? This story is not clear.

kabe1:
Nigerian Special Forces Helicopter Assault

Watch assault video in link

VIDEO: Navy displays boarding tactics at presidential fleet review

🎥: @MansurIB007 #PresidentialFleetReview pic.twitter.com/keeuBTZGZI

— TheCable (@thecableng) May 23, 2023

The vessel with the racing stripe, is that a coastguard vessel or what?? What's the name??

GabrielYulaw:
I guess you must not have heard what happened during the mid to late 90s when millions of north Kore@ns died during a widespread famine and choose to eat each other rather than protest.

It's like you don't understand how the country works. The citizens are subjected to unceasing propaganda telling them that Kim can hear their thoughts, controls the weather and is all that's keeping them safe in a world run amok. State agents are all around and the slightest bit of disloyalty can get not only you arrested and imprisoned, but also 3 generations.

I will stop here. Just read up bro

That was in the 90s during Kim Jong Il's (Kim Jong Un's father) regime and it was as a result of international isolation and sanctions.
Kim Jong Un came into power in 2011 as a man different from his father(although the only difference is that he's a little bit more considerate and compassionate) and ever since his ascent to power I don't think they've reported any case of famine. No food means the people will be weak. A weak person can't be forced to construct and launch ballistic missiles. But these guys launch them like every month.

Exnavyboy62:
I still find it difficult to believe that North Koreans are starving. Trust me when I say this, hunger can make you do the unthinkable just to get food and Mr Kim Jong Un is just an obese, defenceless guy.If the people were really hungry, they would have revolted and against him a long time ago. But the case is different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXkmLmwPmlA

Just watch and listen to this news report of 1 month ago and tell me if it looks or sound like North Koreans are starving.

GabrielYulaw:
Love or hate this guy, his nuclear weapons is why the US has not invaded. They are his insurance policy and have proven extraordinarily effective.

But while Kim struggles with obesity as the rest of his citizens starve, it bears asking if even without nuclear weapons, China would agree to let the US invade N0rth Kore@ for fear it is maskirovka for an actual invasion of Ch1na

I still find it difficult to believe that North Koreans are starving. Trust me when I say this, hunger can make you do the unthinkable just to get food and Mr Kim Jong Un is just an obese, defenceless guy.If the people were really hungry, they would have revolted and against him a long time ago. But the case is different.

RiceProducers:
Nigeria is also getting a new Frigate from the same shipyard refurbishing Aradu.
Aradu refurbishment includes a system upgrade.

The worst news I've ever received from this thread. It's either the higher authorities of the Navy are trying to circumvent money for their personal interests or they are just ignorant of the modern naval world.

kabe1:
Since you are here, I will expect that you be respectful to differing opinions, please do not bring the unruly behavior that is well versed in the other thread to this place.

Moving on, my thoughts on NNS Aradu, the ship is 43 years old and has passed it's effective life cycle. It's systems are old, it's engine is broken, it's weapon management system is outdated. NNS Aradu has had many accidents, the most recent repair was done at the Naval Dockyard in Lagos where there were problems with water ingress into the ship.

The ship completed repairs and had to be towed out of the dockyard by Tugs back to NNS Beecroft.

NNS Aradu while a powerful warship back when it was launched in the 80's is a complete shadow of it's self.

The cost of refitting NNS Aradu back to a warm fighting frigate would be so high, it's systems, guns, radars, engines etc etc would need to be completed replaced.

I am of the opinion that the Navy would be better served with acquiring 2 x brand new ships.

There's so much emotional attachment with NNS Aradu, the ship is way past it's prime.

If we are looking at purchasing Frigates the BRP Jose Rizal class Frigates would be an excellent fit for us, instead of investing in a ship that's way past it's prime.

I don't even know if I should cry or laugh. Other Navies are going for stealth frigates, Nigerian Navy wants to refurbish a 42 years old frigate . It would have been better if the Navy decided to acquire second hand frigates like the Type 053H3 or Type 054. I remember sometime in 2020, the cost of refurbishing Aradu was estimated at 250 million dollars, isn't that enough to get us something better than a 1980s ship😭

Shaytun:
The Nigerian Navy has received FG approval to refurbish its flagship NNS Aradu (F89), the approval also includes a component to purchase a light frigate from Dearsan Shipyard.

Other Navies are going for stealth frigates, Nigerian Navy wants to refurbish a 42 years old frigate. Who do us like this 😭??