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GabrielYulaw:
You are either naive or unexposed to geopolitical realities.

Ever heard of a little something called a map? Take a look at where North Korea is. Notice it shares borders with both China and Russia?

According to you, north Korea is developing nuclear weapons to prevent the US invading it. And it never occurred to you "that if" such an invasion happened, it would bring US and NATO forces right within areas both Russia and China consider inviolable. Like China go just smile encouragingly as the US invaded North Korea, right?

Do research the Korean war when you can, paying particular attention to China's reaction to the invasion of the North by UN forces led by the US. Plus ask yourself what Russia is doing at the moment just because Ukraine, a neighboring country is falling into the Western orbit.

Just as you assumed, "IF" the US invades North Korea and we all know that's not going to happen for as long as North Korea keeps up with nuclear weapons development.

By the way, you still haven't showed me any proof of recent that North Korea as a country kidnapped the Japanese and taught them the old Japanese ways by force.

GabrielYulaw:
Respectfully, your opinion is not based on facts. Are you aware that for decades North Korea has been kidnapping Japanese citizens, and taking them to their country so they can teach them Japanese customs and stuff like that, which will then be used to train spies that can pass for Japanese? That's not an act of war, right? North Korea is just doing all it can to keep itself safe, right? All while fat Kim eats the best food in the world and washes it down with the best liquor money can buy. So, yeah, he's as fat as he is cos that's what keeps North Koreans safe, right?

So, according to you, someone launching ballistic missiles into your territorial waters is not a threat. If I started using catapult to shoot big stones into your compound would you regard that as a threat or not? And you talk like these ballistic missile launches only happen due to US and South Korean exercises and that's an outright lie. North Korea is like a petulant bully whose overriding objective is to be noticed. Any time there's a little bit of peace and quiet in Asia, they launch a missile or perform a nuclear test and then issue bombastic statements that scream "notice me, notice me".

And another thing, you said that North Korea went the nuclear route because they did not have money to purchase conventional weapons. Seriously? Hope you are aware that nuclear missiles cost an arm and a leg to develop, and a neck and liver to maintain. They are never cheap. North Korea went the nuclear route precisely because it is the only thing that gives them the biggest leverage and they by the way have been for decades a major arms manufacturing and exporting nation.

As for your analysis on the US and China, the less said the better.

What proof of recent do you have to show that North Korea as a country has been kidnapping the Japanese and doing whatever you said they were doing to them??
Did I ever say anything about Mr Kim Jong Un's diet being responsible for keeping North Korea safe??

Did you read my write up properly at all. I never said North Korea launched ballistic missiles into the waters of countries hosting US military bases (e.g; Japan and South Korea)for nor reason, they are not only a response to US-South Korean exercises, they are also a message to the US to stay clear of it's territory as it will not like to be in the same situation as victims of NATO gangsters bullying, who unfortunately had no nuclear weapons to serve as a war deterrent for them.

Yes you are right and at the same time, they can't afford an arms race with South Korea in terms of conventional weapons so rather than waste the available money, time, energy and resources they have on such, wouldn't it be better if they have a better more powerful and efficient war deterrent, hence why they turned to their allies (China and Russia) "for help" in nuclear weapons development and the allies seem to have done a good job in being an all weather friend to the small Island.

As I said, who knows maybe my argument is not relevant to the issue on ground. I don't live in any of the said countries so I don't know what it feels like to perceive a threat.

peacefull:
Oh! Really?! Am I correct?
I was just little bit joking. But there are always many typs of view of point and peoples are having different view of point.
So, I was just saying like that's one way of looking at it

Please, if I'm not bothered you, I like to know about What is your think? opinion? if they are truly telling Japan to have power for fight?
They wanna fight war with Japan and wanna get win from Japan? or they wanna team up with Japan to fight with Western countries? etc.
I like to know!

Yes! I think so too.
They have anger or frustration about old days Japan more than these days Japan.
I'm always saying this, they need villian and that's Japan.
Of course I can't deny about everythings what Japan did it in the past.
I'm not justify myself or Japan to talking bad things about them.
But I can't allow everythings what they are saying including war history.

Many times I'm thinking like if each Asian countries could have good relationship, Asia will be very wonderful and strong regions
But sadly, seems like impossible. Some countries including Japan, very hard to have good relationship with some countries.
My mom once said Western countries don't want Asia to be strong and discordance to each other? each countries? is convenience to them.
She don't hate Western countries. But she said like that.

Ohhhhhh!! You have a bad mouth like me!!
I like it!! You made me laugh
Thank you soooo much! I appreciate you!!
I always said "Kim boy"!
He is a very busy for protecting himself.
Not protecting his country or peoples, but only protecting himself.
I think he thinks he is a weak.
So, he has to showing and spreading in the world to let peoples to know and believe he is a very strong man with weapons.
And I also think maybe he is a very afraid about what will happen to him if he doesn't has weapons.
But this is kind of understandable.

Well from the way I look at it, I don't think China and North Korea has anything to gain in having any hostilities with Japan. Their only concern is the US which has military bases on Japanese soil and all over the South Asian region.

Having a country like the US within reach of China and surrounding China with bases is a threat to their national security cause when war breaks out, the bases will serve as launchpads for operations and it will be easier for the US to blockade China. And as we all know, China doesn't intend to invade the US but the US and NATO bloc for no credible reason sees China as a threat.

As for North Korea, they are only doing what they can to keep themselves safe. Since they don't have funds to purchase conventional weapons due to the heavy sanctions on them, they have no choice but to turn to their allies(China and Russia) which has helped them in missile development hence why they have ICBMs or as they like to call it "War deterrent". Those ballistic missile launches that go as far as the senkaku Islands and fall in Japanese waters are not intended to threaten Japan, they are only a response to the exercises conducted by US and South Korea and most especially a message to US that it can strike it's bases and they should stay clear of North Korean territory.

But who knows, maybe my opinion is not relevant to the issue on ground, I'm just an armchair general, that's why I asked for the opinion of a Japanese national. Thanks once again for your response.

And one more thing, your mother was right about the West not wanting Asia to be strong and united.

peacefull:
Of course! I'm gonna be very honest with you!

But sorry, my English is still very bad and not easy for me to having discussion this kind of things in English. Very very difficult to me.
Many things I don't know how to say in English.
So, Please forgive me if how my write is strange or off point.

And national security is about military and also have non military things.
But I'm gonna write about military side of national security.

My answer to your question is Yes.
What they are doing around Japan's territory and inside Japan is unacceptable.
Very violent and threaten Japan and Japanese peoples.
Making Japan and Japanese peoples unsafe.

Japan can't fight, I mean Japan can't fight war.
That's why China, North and South Korea and Russia behave like that to Japan.
If Japan can fight back, I don't think they will do something what they are doing now to Japan.
That's what I think.

You can easily to know which countries don't want and bothering about if Japan can fight back.
They are always starting make noise whenever Japan trying to change.
But Japan tried and trying to change law and rules are not for fight a war.
For protect Japan and Japanese peoples.
And for keep safe and peace.

JSDF and JCG etc, they are the one who are always facing danger, under threat etc, for protecting Japan and Japanese peoples, even protecting non Japanese peoples in Japan.
They are saving our safe and peace.
Maybe some peoples say that's their work, their duty etc.
But they are also Japanese peoples and they are also humans like any other Japanese peoples.
Their work or duty is protecting country doesn't mean we can ignore or don't care about their lives.
I never wish to Japan can fight war.
But I'm support about fight back for defence.
I want them to protect themselves too.

So, any countries threat our national security is really unacceptable. Soooo annoying!
Any countries, anybody make under threat my country and my peoples are really really unacceptable.

But one of thing I'm think about is more Japan get violation will lead to change Japan's law and rules of defence.
So, China or North Korea whatever, continuing to threat Japan maybe lead to change Japan.

Maybe China and North Korea telling Japan to have power for fighting
Maybe they want Japan to be like them!
Their way of telling Japan to have power is threaten Japan like now!

Good enough response. And as for the last paragraph of your write up, I think I'm going to hang on that for a while, I guess you have a point there .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFpZZZLSYh4

The documentary.

peacefull:
Thank you so much too!

I'm so glad to hear that!
Yeahhhhh!! ＼(*´∇｀*)／
I love JSDF too and I'm really proud of them!!

Hey quick question, I was watching a documentary on Japan increasing it's military budget and boosting it's military strength. Soldiers and civilians from the Japanese mainlands and those in the islands of Okinawa and co. were also interviewed.
"Do you think China is a threat to Japanese national security??" Forget about how the US and NATO portrays China and pls give an honest reply, Thank you.

Stormtrooper11:
I know you're trying to make a point but they got A29s at Maiduguri tho. So, distance is not really an issue.

About the speed, the A29s is basically a subsonic turboprop aircraft with good ISR capabilities and precision munitions for a tight-budget airforce like ours. It is suitable for a "low-intensity conflict" like ours with no MANPADS threatening the skies.

I think the aircraft is just fine for our asymmetrical warfare. As far we don't aspire to fight a neighbor with it

Naahhh we aren't Warmongers neither are we bullies. Rather Nigerians are peacekeepers .

By the way, can any armchair Air force Marshall in the online barracks help me out in my comparison of Nigeria's A29 tucano to Niger's TAI Hurkus jet.
One was delivered with laser guided rockets and gut wrenching restrictions while the other is yet to be delivered, yet to be battle tested but comes along with missiles and no restrictions.
Which is most likely to record better success against ISWAP elements??

GreenandGold:
I guess it all depends on where you are in the world... down here, they like coming to people, some of them even wear sui.... or wait, that's Putin

Nice joke, KGB astronauts are on their way to deliver your very much well deserved "Zelensky of the year award" at your doorstep

bidexiii:
[/b]Alleged Forced Abortions: US Lawmakers Ask Biden To Rescind Helicopter Sale To Nigeria[b]




An investigation by Reuters last year found that Nigeria's military has conducted a years-long illicit program to carry out abortions among victims of jihadists.


Read more; https://www.channelstv.com/2023/02/17/alleged-forced-abortions-us-lawmakers-ask-biden-to-rescind-helicopter-sale-to-nigeria/

This is absolute nonsense. What evidence do they have to show that the Nigerian Army is guilty of the allegations they are making against it.
The so called Champions of human rights who can't restrict weapons sale to Israel for it's atrocities against Palestine, they see Nigeria has a country to joke with. Such hypocrisy they are even the biggest violators of human rights.

That's it we've had enough, the air force should no longer be interested in those whack helicopters that Vietnam made mince meat out of. We already have drones in service and awaiting delivery, same for helicopters and aircrafts. They can keep their helicopters for all we don't care. We already know they don't want conflict to end in Africa cause it benefit them.

DAMN!!! I'm so pissed

GreenandGold:
Please elaborate, I don't understand what the Algerian MEKO-200 has the Valour Class Frigs don't have?

Weapons brother... they have weapons that the Valour class frigates don't have
16x anti ship missiles not 8
1x OTO Melara rapid fire gun not a compact gun
32x air to air missiles(umkhonto missiles for that matter) not 13 out of 16
2x double torpedo tubes, not built to be fitted for but not with

Lurker4Long:
SAS being all demure about their achievements!

"SAS Amatola undergoing a midlife refit at Sandock Austral Shipyards (SAS) in Durban. SAS received the contract for the complete refit of the vessel (excluding armament) – one of the largest projects tackled by a South African company for the South African Navy (SAN).

Amatola spent 3 months in dry dock, where part of the refit programme involved the removal of the Amatola’s two MTU 1163 TB93 diesel engines, each delivering 5920 kW and driving propellers, and a single General Electric LM 2500 gas turbine delivering 20 000 kW and driving a waterjet propulsion system to give a speed of 30 knots.

By getting a South African company to carry out work on the SAS Amatola, the Navy is paying a half to a tenth of the price that foreign suppliers would charge, and local refurbishment work results in quicker turnaround times.

SAS Amatola is the first of the Navy’s four Valour class frigates. She was launched in June 2002 and commissioned into service in February 2006. She is 121 metres long and displaces 3 700 tons."

Such a beautiful ship, it's a shame the weapons will not be fully upgraded to it's max potential like Algerian Navy's MEKO A-200

Hold up Nemesis4you, where do you get this many pics and info about Ind... and it's defence industry?? I'm a fan of the Ind... military(the Navy most especially), I follow Ind... defence channels and accounts on social media but I don't even know about stuffs like this until you post it.

GreenandGold:
OpenAI's ChatGTP has settled the old-time debate... SA only loses to China, after dominating Egypt and Naygeria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3VtqfEqNkA

"South Africa wins the African conflict, it annexes Nigeria and Egypt and it becomes one of the World Powers"
Somebody Laugh With Me

Stormtrooper11:
No offence to the Russians and their fan boys but some people like living in self-denial. We all know that Russia throughout the soviet times till now has poor tank tactics and even air tactics even though they had a more advanced tank before the west and revolutionised tank warfare with the T-64. We saw the massive loses in the Middle Eastern wars by the Arabs who were coached by soviet advisors. We saw the massive shoot down of nearly 100 Syrian aircraft which were soviet made with soviet trained pilots by Isrealis in Operation mole cricket 19.

Even from the earlier stages of the Ukrainian war, we saw how Russian lined up their tanks and attacked through highways like they were going for a normal field exercise.

The Ukrainians keep finding it easy, even though they are disadvantaged, to separate the Russian armour from its infantry, then destroy both elements separately. The Russians are lacking coordination in combined arms tactics but hopefully they reorganise and change tactics for the upcoming counter offensive.

You do know that, it's Wagner and Chechnya troops that are at the frontline not the real Russian troops.

Stormtrooper11:
I saw this some weeks back. Isn't this illegal under Nigerian laws?

What a waste of time. Not in our dear country, NEVER!!!

Nemesis4you:
Aim is to replace chetak and cheetah helicopters with HAL LUH

Looks like a competition for the AW-109 in the market.

Stormtrooper11:
At 802u skywarden. A really modernized version of the crop Dustin Air tractor which beat the super Tucano in the US SOCOM ground attack selection. Hopefully our A 29s get these ISR upgrades

Not just the super tucano, even the Mwari AHRLAC attack aircraft couldn't stand a chance. Who the hell sleeps peacefully at night after ignoring such a cute aircraft?

GreenandGold:
This is the clearest pic of the Chinese balloon I have seen so far.

Fortunately for the ballon, the acclaimed best fighter jet in the world recorded it as it's first kill😂.
The almighty, stealth to the core F-22 raptor is now known as the "balloon popper"

Covert1:
The new administration coming in Abuja May 29th must as a matter of National Security tie economic interests to the dignity of Nigerians anywhere in the world and on the homeland

The African Union needs to learn a thing or two.....infact A LOT about unity and brotherhood from the E.U.

Toju200:
and we're acquiring two from Italy

Is it the C-27J Spartan that we are getting or the CASA C-295 that is from Spain??

GreenandGold:
or........ they have equipment suited for a kind of war that does not exist in their region.

Well they have Egypt, Africa's military power and Sudan, a country that has ruthless military generals in charge of it to contend with over the Nile and the Dam that was constructed for it. There has been tensions since 2020 so the purchase of ballistic missile is not a waste.

Nemesis4you:

True asf

Nemesis4you:
For a moment take a deep breath and say I am not Exnavyboy62

Repeat it 5 times while gradually inhaling and exhaling

Then open your eyes and read what the person called Exnavyboy62 wrote

Than congratulate Exnavyboy62 for his successful infiltration of IAF minds using his mind reading skills

And than shake his hands and confide him that a guy called Nemesis4you has asked him to approach NAF top brass and inquire

1. If they ever heard of WDMMA, also be prepared to explain what WDMMA is , bec professionals across the world are generally not as informed as armchair generals running among human population especially cyberspace

2. Than ask if they agree with the fellow called Exnavyboy62 who believes that a national airforce gives a rats ass about WDMMA

If NAF agrees on both than inform Exnavyboy62 that he is ironically right on IAF

Pls speak simple English, I don't get a thing you are saying.

Nemesis4you:
Yes during a combat training exercise

Very unfortunate both were from TACDE , IAF top gun school

Mirage pilot died , other 2 ejected

~ 300 million dollars down the drain

At this rate IAF with already depleted squadrons will run out of aircrafts and pilots

But than that's the price to be paid for putting pilots into a high flight hour combat training regime (per annum), which is higher than that of USAF

Can't have both ways and last but not the least Murphys law

It's so ironic how the IAF mocks the Pakist... Airforce and feels bigger than the PLAAF because of WDMMA rankings.

kabe1:
What are you talking about, Nigeria is hosting a large scale exercise in Lagos why shouldn't the CNS attend?

Yeah I know what I'm saying is, I don't think the "Chief of Naval Staff" should be meeting with "a commander of one of the US naval fleets". They might be of the same rank but there is a difference in their work positions. Like what I'm saying is, he should give reception to the likes of the Chief of Naval Operations, US Navy and Secretary of the Navy, US Navy. While in the case of the commander of the sixth fleet of the US Navy, he could have just sent a representative - maybe the FOC Western Naval Command.

peacefull:
Of course I don't mind!
I'm a Japanese. Nice to meet you!

Thank you so much!
I appreciate you!!

Good enough response that is fine by me ,. So like I said "Welcome to Nairaland".
This humble online platform consists of thousands of many different threads based on different topics. This is a military thread, where we post military pics and discuss about militaries of the world and we have many other military related threads.

[quote author=kabe1 post=120412122][/quote]Ok I understand that they are both Vice Admirals, but is it right for the "Chief of Naval Staff of Nigeria" to meet "the commander of the US 6th fleet". I mean come on, he should have sent a representative, maybe the flag officer commanding, Western Naval Command.
The only time he should meet with anyone is if it's his counter part, let's say the Chief of Naval operations, or secretary of the Navy of the US.

kabe1:
Commander of the US Navy 6th Fleet visits Nigerian Navy's Western Naval Command

What ship is that in the first pic? Looks like a coast guard vessel with the racing stripes

Nemesis4you:
I am honoured and duty bound to accompany the lady

while you conduct the tour of nairaland

Honoured you say, Duty bound you say.
Under what constitution or decree ??

Nemesis4you:

Monsieur juste samuser
Ne me derange pas

Duolingo what is it exactly ?

It's a language learning app for many different languages

Nemesis4you:
Guide for touring nairaland, that's new

I will gladly tag along when you start the tour

Three is a crowd, Keep Off!!!

Nemesis4you:
X

"I'm an idiot" in Japanese right. You are so lucky that I'm only learning French on Duolingo.