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MaxInDHouse:
Good!
Now try to think smart:
Where did God create for humans to live forever?
Heaven or Earth?🙂

Remember your own question about Adam being taken to and sent down from heaven not specifically a statement of mine. Misreading a clarification as a confession doesn't change that. Your Bible's Genesis 2:8-14 places Eden geographically, near the Tigris and Pishon. The Quran places Adam's creation from clay (38:71-72) and his earthly role (2:30) before the Garden account. Both point to earth.

Bring your 2 classes of saved people verse first

MaxInDHouse:
This is where you and your prophet got confused!

The Bible mentioned Eden but your man told you they were driven out of heaven.

So the question you and your Quran has failed to answer is:
Where was Eden?
Heaven or earth?🙂

All because you make a false two class claim. Continue your delusion though it's now very obvious you know better.
Do you say it isn't in the Bible that Adam and Eve were sent out of Eden as consequence of their actions? Please spin new lies as it's obvious you cannot be detached from that. Maybe you have heresy from your organisation to back that up

MaxInDHouse:
All these still leaves room for different interpretations that's why you earlier said Adam was driven out of HEAVEN!😂
So i need a verse that will EXPLICITLY STATE where Adam and Eve were created that's why most Muslims including you are confused!😂

Surah 38:71–72 addresses Adam’s creation directly with I am going to create a human being from clay. Surah 15:28 and 32:7 make the same point. The text itself identifies Adam’s origin as earthly material, and Surah 2:30 places humanity’s earthly role before the Garden account.
But this still does not answer the main issue being discussed. Adam’s origin is a separate question from whether scripture teaches two permanent classes of saved believers with separate eternal destinations. Tell us why you keep hiding on this deflection without answering.
Is it untrue you pathetically deflect to Adam’s creation while the actual challenge remains unanswered. Where is the explicit Bible verse without inserted assumptions or added framework that states saved believers are permanently divided into two eternal classes with separate destinations?
If indeed you are honest answer this.

MaxInDHouse:
وَاِ ذْ قَا لَ رَبُّكَ لِلْمَلٰٓئِكَةِ اِنِّيْ جَا عِلٌ فِى الْاَ رْضِ خَلِيْفَةً ۗ قَا لُوْۤا اَتَجْعَلُ فِيْهَا مَنْ يُّفْسِدُ فِيْهَا وَيَسْفِكُ الدِّمَآءَ ۚ وَنَحْنُ نُسَبِّحُ بِحَمْدِكَ وَنُقَدِّسُ لَـكَ ۗ قَا لَ اِنِّيْۤ اَعْلَمُ مَا لَا تَعْلَمُوْنَ
"And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."" Quran 2:30


وَقُلْنَا يٰۤـاٰدَمُ اسْكُنْ اَنْتَ وَزَوْجُكَ الْجَـنَّةَ وَكُلَا مِنْهَا رَغَدًا حَيْثُ شِئْتُمَا ۖ وَلَا تَقْرَبَا هٰذِهِ الشَّجَرَةَ فَتَكُوْنَا مِنَ الظّٰلِمِيْنَ
"And We said, "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat therefrom in [ease and] abundance from wherever you will. But do not approach this tree, lest you be among the wrongdoers." Quran 2:35

Where was Adam and Eve created?

Just quote a verse in your Quran that EXPLICITLY states that Adam was created either in HEAVEN or EARTH.

That's all!😂

Shamelessly exposing how shallow you are and myopic. The main point remains that interpretation is valid, but it must be identified as interpretation, not presented as the direct wording of the text.
Christians do interpret Scripture through context, comparison, and theological reasoning. However, the New Testament does not establish an authorized explanatory channel in the same structural way the Quran and Islam does through revelation and prophetic explanation.Even 2 Peter 1:20 warns against treating prophecy as a matter of personal interpretation, which makes inserting ideas into Luke 20:34–36 even more difficult to justify.
The Quran explicitly states that we revealed to you the Reminder so that you may explain to mankind what was sent down to them. (Quran 16:44). Within Islamic theology, the Prophet pbuh’s explanations are therefore treated as part of understanding revelation.
The Quran states Adam’s earthly role with
I will place upon the earth a successor.(Quran 2:30). Dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise.(Quran 2:35). And on his descent:
Go down, all of you. (Quran 2:38)
The exact nature and location of the Garden is discussed among scholars, and that discussion is openly recognized as interpretation.
So if a conclusion requires interpretation, label it as interpretation. Don’t present an inferred doctrine as if the verse itself directly states it. The question remains where is the verse without added assumptions that explicitly establishes two permanent classes of saved believers with separate eternal destinations? Otherwise agree it's your interpretation!

MaxInDHouse:
To expose your hypocrisy!
If you have to explain some verses for someone to understand your Quran instead of the book to give an answer EXPLICITLY then you are deceiving your own soul!🙂
According to the Bible and what you've been trying to explain from your Quran Adam and Eve were created to live in Paradise (Al Jannah) on planet earth so any right thinking, honest hearted and sincere individual supposed to ask:
Where comes the idea of going to heaven?
Something i have explained over and over but you insisted on getting a single verse in the Bible where heavenly life and earthly life will be explained EXPLICITLY!
That is why i keep asking you to quote a verse in your Quran where answers to questions are found written in the same manner!
So stop being hypocritical and face the truth!🙂

As a diversion from answering your two class claims?

MaxInDHouse:
That is why i asked you to quote where your Quran explicitly stated that earth is the Paradise God put Adam and Eve!😂
If you demand word for word from the Bible what happens to your Quran?🤣

Scripture should be judged by what it actually states, not by conclusions imposed on it.
The Old Testament’s main hope is clearly earthly and embodied as Job speaks of restored life, Psalm 37:29 says the righteous inherit the land, Isaiah 65 describes life on a renewed earth, and Daniel 12:2 speaks of resurrection.
That doesn’t mean other passages should be ignored it means they should be read carefully. Genesis 5:24 never says where Enoch was taken. 2 Kings 2:11 says Elijah went up, but doesn’t describe an eternal destination. Psalm 73:24 speaks of being received to glory, but doesn’t define a location. None of these texts explicitly establish a permanent heavenly class. Do you have a contrary or scripture stated explanation?
The same applies to John 14:1–3. It says Jesus prepares a place and returns for his followers, but it doesn’t specify a permanent separation from earth. Revelation 21 completes the picture by showing God’s dwelling coming to humanity on the renewed earth. Will God come to man or raise man to a place worthy of being in his presence?
The question remains simple in earth as the dominant biblical hope is one claim. A separate, permanent heavenly destination for a specific saved class requires explicit proof from the text itself not assumptions built from unclear passages.

Throughout this entire discussion, the main claim that scripture explicitly teaches two permanent classes of saved believers with separate eternal destinations hasn’t been demonstrated. The verses presented (Genesis 1:26, Genesis 1:28, Psalm 37:29, Luke 20:34–36) describe humanity’s earthly role or resurrection in general. None of them explicitly state two saved classes or two separate eternal destinies.
Adding phrases like heavenly co-rulers or spirit creatures into Luke 20 inserts a framework into the verse rather than showing what the verse itself says.
Whenever the request for an explicit text was repeated, the discussion moved elsewhere instead of producing that verse. The argument may be held as an interpretation, but the direct proof requested still hasn’t been provided.

Go acquire more knowledge then we continue

MaxInDHouse:
QUESTION!
Where did God put the first couple?

ANSWER!
Bible: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

QUESTION!
Where will the righteous inherit forever?

ANSWER!
Bible: The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it. Psalms 37:29

Please quote answers in your book! 😂

Most definitely so qualified by man who composed and collected it. How well you can see!

MaxInDHouse:
Little books is the meaning of that word and as we all know the Bible contains 66 little books so continue deceiving yourself with lies when your book can't answer any question!🤣

Pathetic. What the Bible says or what you say? Funny is that word Bible even in the scripture?

MaxInDHouse:
Next time don't challenge what the Bible says because it's not just a book fabricated by some self acclaimed prophet!🤣

Still deflecting? Introducing idolatry too?

MaxInDHouse:
Surely you must bow to the Bible and call it "SCRIPTURES" because its inspired word of the true God but that your book is just man-made up stories that's why you can't quote any answer directly from it.

Meanwhile there still remains no verse in that your book regarding where the first human couple were created your book leaves room for different interpretations that is why you too ended up just like most Muslims saying:



Where was Adam living before he was sent from heaven?🤣

Excellent intellectual response in reverse

MaxInDHouse:
So now you want to interpret Bible shey?🤣
Ọmọ go and rest this is not your book!🤣

Why make it that to understand scripture you loose the rational ability?

What should be activated is someones intellectual ability for proper comprehension.
Luke 20:34–36 is about resurrection generally showing those in this age marry, but those worthy of resurrection do not die. It doesn’t mention the 144,000, heavenly rulers, or co-rulers. Those ideas come from interpretation, not the words of the passage itself.
The passage’s actual distinction is between those worthy of resurrection and those who are not. John 5:28–29 and Daniel 12:2 also frame the issue as resurrection to life versus judgment; the righteous versus the condemned.
Adding a separate heaven-versus-earth division into Luke 20 goes beyond what the text says. Interpretation is necessary, but it must come from the text and not be inserted into it.
This standard applies in the Bible. If you can produce one verse that clearly establishes two permanent classes of saved believers with separate eternal destinations the ping-pong here will be unnecessary. That proof is still missing. When you have it respond otherwise keep searching.

MaxInDHouse:
Stop mentioning that useless book ọmọ it's worthless in this case!🙂

Here is what Jesus said @ Luke 20:34-36

“The children of this system of things marry and are given in marriage, (intelligent creatures in flesh on planet earth do get married) but those who have been counted worthy of gaining that system of things( those who will become corulers with Christ in heaven ) and the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage. In fact, neither can they die anymore, for they are like the angels, and they are God’s children by being children of the resurrection( will be turned into spirit creatures so they won't marry because they don't have fleshy bodies anymore)." Luke 20:34-36

Scriptures needs to be interpreted so you can't expect everything to be written explicitly as you are demanding i know you are now ashamed of that your book because it can't answer any question at all!🙂

Luke 20:34–36 addreses the resurrection and the fact that resurrected people won’t marry or die. It does not mention the 144,000, a heavenly ruling class, or two separate eternal destinations. It answers a question about marriage, not a complete explanation of eternal arrangement.
The Quran’s position on the earth was stated in Surah 21:105. Despite the extras the question remains unanswered where is the explicit Bible verse establishing two permanent classes of saved believers with separate eternal destinations? Do provide it then we can get into the extras.

MaxInDHouse:
Those going to heaven aren't going there as humans the Bible made it clear that they will be transformed into angels! Luke 20:34-36
Ọmọ no dey compare God's word with that your Quran o!🤣

Definitely Genesis 1:26 establishes humanity’s role in dominion over the earth and its creatures. That point is not disputed, and the Quran makes a similar statement in Surah 2:30. But having an earthly assignment does not automatically mean humans are eternally limited to earth. A responsibility over a domain is not the same thing as an absolute boundary of existence.
This creates problems in the argument. If Genesis 1:26, Psalms 115:16, and Ecclesiastes 1:4 permanently restrict all humans to earth, then the claim that 144,000 humans go to heaven becomes difficult to reconcile. Those passages cannot function as a universal restriction while also allowing a human group to have a heavenly destination.
Regarding the Quran, the questions raised have been answered with citations. Surah 2:30, 2:35, 2:38, 3:59, 15:26, 21:105, and 54:54–55. The exact location of the Garden even if debated is not ignorance but accuracy.
This same standard must apply equally. Genesis 1:26 does not explicitly teach two permanent classes of saved believers with separate eternal destinations. That specific proof has still not been provided.

MaxInDHouse:
The above statement is what i'm talking about because all Muslims are confused regarding where Adam was created to stay before he sinned.

So it's either you admit that your Quran couldn't give a definitive answer or you humble yourself and learn.

I have heard that statement thousands of times from Muslims so quoting your Quran without stating where Adam was created explicitly shows you people have nothing to learn in that your book.

This is what the Bible says about Adam:

“Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every creeping animal that is moving on the earth." Genesis 1:26

Can you see how clear the Bible answered the question?

That is God's word not some copy and paste book from an impostor who does not know where Paradise was in the beginning.

The main reason i keep tormenting you is because your Quran can't answer where Paradise will be whether heaven or earth but the Bible made it clear that it was the perfect state where God put Adam that all righteous people will inherit again {Psalms 37:9-11, 29} so only Christ corulers will be taken to heaven not all righteous people! John 14:1-3🙂

Gen 1:26 doesn’t actually establish a heaven/earth split for humanity, it only describes mankind’s role and authority over the earth. Surah 2:30 makes a similar point, so the overlap is conceptual, not contradictory. Likewise, Genesis says nothing about the Garden’s exact location before the fall. Reading that detail into the text goes beyond what’s written.
Psalms 37:29 supports the idea of the righteous inheriting the earth, but it still doesn’t prove two permanent classes of saved people with separate eternal destinies. That explicit teaching is still not directly shown in the passages cited.
And shifting from textual discussion to personal criticism doesn’t answer the actual point being raised the texts themselves still need to carry the argument. Grow up to that reality.

MaxInDHouse:
The above statement is what i'm talking about because all Muslims are confused regarding where Adam was created to stay before he sinned.

So it's either you admit that your Quran couldn't give a definitive answer or you humble yourself and learn.

I have heard that statement thousands of times from Muslims so quoting your Quran without stating where Adam was created explicitly shows you people have nothing to learn in that your book.

This is what the Bible says about Adam:

“Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every creeping animal that is moving on the earth." Genesis 1:26

Can you see how clear the Bible answered the question?

That is God's word not some copy and paste book from an impostor who does not know where Paradise was in the beginning.

The main reason i keep tormenting you is because your Quran can't answer where Paradise will be whether heaven or earth but the Bible made it clear that it was the perfect state where God put Adam that all righteous people will inherit again {Psalms 37:9-11, 29} so only Christ corulers will be taken to heaven not all righteous people! John 14:1-3🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Just quote one out that EXPLICITLY says "EARTH" because that is exactly what is confusing all Muslims till today!🤣

None of your leaders can answer where the righteous will live after God has destroy all evildoers because that word "PARADISE" your prophet doesn't know its real meaning!😂

MaxInDHouse:
Over to you jàre Mr Explore2xmore.

If your Quran says Adam was created from the dust of the earth and God put him in a garden on planet earth:



When was he taken to heaven so that God later send him out of heaven to planet earth again?🙂



How i wish to stay away from engaging Muslims in such discussions because i know your Quran has no answer to all these questions but when you decides to question God's word you people give room for intimidating your prophet, god, book and religion!😟

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ i know Islam before you were born so i can tell you categorically that both Allah, Muhammad and your Quran can't answer any question straightforward.

I'm not saying your Quran can't copy and paste few things from the Bible what i'm telling you is that your Quran can't answer any question EXPLICITLY as you are demanding from the Bible.

So answer the simple question.

You said your Allah drove Adam down away from heaven.

So when was Adam taken to heaven before he was sent down again?
After all you are now saying Adam was created on planet earth.🙂

The Quran has answered these points directly, with references already provided. A person familiar with Islamic theology would know the Quran doesn’t say Adam was taken from earth to heaven and then returned. It says he was placed in a Garden and later told to descend. Claiming that the Garden must have been in heaven is an assumption, not a statement from the text itself. Even classical scholars debated this issue.
Likewise, saying the Quran copied the Bible oversimplifies the matter. Both scriptures exist within a shared Abrahamic tradition, but that’s not the same as one being a copy of the other.
The relevant verses have been cited: 2:30, 2:35, 2:38, 3:59, 15:26, 21:105, and 54:54–55. The answers are there. Rejecting them without addressing them isn’t a counterargument. And the standard should be consistent: the Bible also has not produced a clear verse proving two permanent groups of saved believers with different eternal outcomes. That question remains unanswered. When you can answer we will see clearly.
Advice you get off your haughtiness and imagination. This is an online platform with higher chances of me living longer on earth than you besides age not being a measure of knowledge.

In time all or most scripture will be reviewed.

I answered your previous questions but you refuse to accept these and consider them unanswered.

Indeed, We created man from a clay of altered black mud.Qur’an 15:26

He created him from dust; then He said to him: ‘Be,’ and he was. Qur’an 3:59

Ibn Kathir explains in his tafsir of these verses that Adam’s creation began from dust/earth (turab), which Allah made into clay.

The Prophet pbuh also said Allah created Adam from a handful which He took from all of the earth…
Sunan Abi Dawud, Hadith 4693

Adam was created by Allah and was later commanded to dwell in Paradise. (Qur’an 2:35; Tafsir Ibn Kathir)

O Adam! Dwell you and your wife in the Paradise…

MaxInDHouse:
At least you agree with all the religions claiming Christians as they are saying Jesus is the God they are worshiping.

And most of them claims God is three in one!🤣

@Maxindhouse has redefined God and reinterpreted scripture to that view

FxMasterz:
What blasphemy!



How can you claim to be sharing the same line or thoughts with Jesus by calling Him angel Michael or saying He starter reigning in 1914 contrary to the Scriptures? Even believing that being a part of an organization is superior to having the Spirit of God in you, all in blatant disregard for the very Word of God. Are you a comedian?

John 3:16 says God loved the world. If this framework divides the saved into two permanently separate classes with different eternal destinies, it creates some confusion. How does equal divine love result in unequal eternal outcomes? The verse does not limit God’s love by class or destination; it applies to the world as a whole.

MaxInDHouse:
Why couldn't your Muhammad welcome all forms of worship?🤣

Interesting how God so loved a segregated world and sent a segregating prophet

Read your entry I responded to and feign oblivious innocence more.

MaxInDHouse:
Where is the abuse o?😟

This is the Bible not your Quran where you can't answer any question so what you should do is humbly learn not trying to imply what those who knows nothing about God told you.

Meanwhile you haven't answered one single question with that your Quran o!

Perhaps you have forgotten here is the question again:

Where did God create Adam and Eve in the beginning?

Please quote it from your Quran!🙂

I see your means of passing information derives from subtle abuse. This only shows how vile your thoughts are. The thread title is what again?
If new heavens means a new government, the 144,000 cannot also occupy a literal heavenly realm. A symbolic reading removes the separation required by the two-class view. You cannot interpret it symbolically when convenient and literally when needed. That inconsistency weakens the framework.

MaxInDHouse:
If you want to learn opportunity to do so is there but when you choose to argue based on what the false religions in the world infused in your head that's your own cup of coffee!🙂

What is the essence of creating earth and putting humans there if heaven is where God intended for humans?

Muhammad knew nothing about God that is why he was mixing everything together.

New heavens and new earth are symbolic terms and it simply means new governments and new subjects who are willing to live with righteousness {2Peter 3:13} not another planet. God has promised never to destroy earth in fact He said this planet earth will last forever! Genesis 8:21-22; Psalms 104:5; Ecclesiastes 1:4

Now it is very clear how different your views of God and eternity are. Your eternal paradise consists of a merged heaven and earth however new you claim these to be. The questions still remain about a specially two classes of saved people then where exactly is hell since you have located your own heaven in a new earth? Invariably then is why God comes down and not formerly mortal go up to meet the supreme?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said his disciples should pray for God's Kingdom to come {Matthew 6:10} so that as angels are doing the will of God in heaven the same could be done here on earth!

Oya answer the question using your our Quran nah!

Where will the resurrection be heaven or earth?😂

You sure got more to contend with.
1. The dead and buried on earth body is resurrected for what purpose? Delivery of judgement and passage to where eternity would be spent?

2. Your book says this is the same earth yet it's asked what should it profit a man to gain the whole world and loose his soul?

3. You pray to a father who art in heaven where Jesus goes to prepare a place for you yet it will still be on earth?

4. Is the resurrection in classes that will be separated or what?

MaxInDHouse:
Where will resurrection take place?

Heaven or Earth?🤣

You still cannot produce your scriptural evidence for separate saved people in either heaven or earth ?
Psalm 115:16 is being stretched beyond what it actually says if it is taken to mean that humans are permanently limited to earth. In context, it speaks about God’s sovereignty and humanity’s earthly domain, not a complete statement about eternal destiny. The Bible itself presents a broader picture, including resurrection and final judgment (Daniel 12:2; John 5:28–29). So doctrine is not normally established by isolating one verse while ignoring the rest of the text.
The same principle applies to the Qur’an. Islam also distinguishes between earthly life as a temporary test (Qur’an 67:2) and the eternal outcome in the Hereafter, whether Paradise or punishment (Qur’an 98:8; 3:185). So the idea that humans are simply earthbound forever does not fit the Qur’anic framework.
The real question is not whether earth was created for humans a both traditions acknowledge earthly human life. The question is whether Scripture explicitly teaches that humanity’s final destiny is exclusively earth and not also connected to the heavenly realm. That conclusion requires more than Psalm 115:16 alone; it must be demonstrated from the complete scriptural picture. You are yet to do this.

MaxInDHouse:
See the problem with you?🤣
How can you be expecting all answers you want regarding a subject matter to be EXPLICITLY written in just one verse but when i throw similar questions to you your Quran can't even answer at all?

Ọmọ the earth is the place God created for humans as permanent abode {Psalms 115:16} that's why i keep asking you to make you use of your Quran and reason because God had no plan for humans in heaven!

So withdraw the word CONFINED earth is where God designed for humans not heaven!🙂

You've actually illustrated the point: your interpretation requires two classes of saved people with two different eternal destinies.
John 14 says believers will be with Christ, and Psalm 37:29 says the righteous inherit the earth. But none of the passages cited explicitly state that only 144,000 go to heaven while all other righteous believers are confined to the earth.
Revelation 14 mentions the 144,000 with the Lamb, but it never says they alone inherit heaven. More importantly, Revelation ends with God dwelling among mankind, not with two permanently separated classes of the saved (Revelation 21:1–3).
So the question remains: where does the Bible explicitly teach two distinct groups of saved believers with different eternal inheritances?

MaxInDHouse:
Where is Jannah, heaven or earth?🤣

Two destinations:

1. For the few chosen to rule with Christ:

“Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith also in me. In the house of my Father (heaven) are many dwelling places. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a place for you. Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will receive you home to myself, so that where I am you also may be"

2. For all other righteous servants of God who aren't part of the chosen:

The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it! Psalms 37:29

How many are the CHOSEN?

Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads. Revelation 14:1

What about rest of the righteous?

And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people. Revelation 14:6

One funny religionist whose book can't answer any question will be questioning the Bible! 🙂

What the Quran says has been stated so no need to repeat the eternal end of al-jannah or jahannam. The issue from your submission is two different classes of people inheriting the earth or heaven which isn't your scripture bound.

MaxInDHouse:
What exactly did your own Quran say on the matter?
Bible stated that righteous will inherit the earth so let's hear from your Quran if it can answer any question.
I won't tell you anything again until you quote where your Allah in that your book says the righteous will inherit!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Even if you see the answer you will still argue whereas your Quran can't answer any question.
Psalms 115:16
Told you God gave mankind earth and that is where we are to live forever if we prove to be righteous! Psalms 37:29

What does your own Quran says about the same subject?🙂

Don't you understand?
Neither passage you refer to mentions a separate permanent heavenly destination for a numbered ruling group or any segregation . Both passages describe one people inheriting one earth.
The two-class framework is being built on top of these passages, not drawn from them. They are being recruited into a conclusion they do not state.

Do well to address this misnomer.

These six questions are reasonable starting points for anyone sincerely seeking to understand revelation. The issue is not about if those questions should be asked, but whether the conclusions being drawn are actually established by the texts. Psalm 115:16 says that the heavens belong to God and the earth is given to mankind. This shows humanity’s earthly existence, but it does not automatically prove that all saved believers must have an eternal earthly destiny.
In fact, the Bible itself contains passages that describe salvation in terms of being with God beyond earthly life. Jesus said in John 14:2–3, in my Father’s house are many dwelling places… I go to prepare a place for you Paul also speaks of a hope laid up for you in heaven; Colossians 1:5, and a citizenship in heaven (Philippians 3:20). These passages show that the biblical picture requires careful examination rather than simply concluding that salvation equals permanent earthly life.
The Qur’anic view is internally consistent. Humanity was created from earthly material, life on earth is a test, death is followed by resurrection and judgment, and the righteous are rewarded with Paradise (Qur’an 2:30, 23:15–16, 67:2, 99:6–8 ). It clearly distinguishes the temporary worldly life from the eternal life to come.
Likewise, Luke 20:34–36 describes the resurrection state as being like the angels in that people no longer marry or die. It does not explicitly establish a separate permanent class of heavenly rulers and earthly subjects.
The government-house analogy also requires more than illustration; it requires clear scriptural evidence. A society having rulers and citizens does not automatically mean the saved are divided into two permanent eternal categories.
The real question, therefore, remains if there are two different groups of saved people with two different eternal destinations, where does Scripture clearly and directly state that distinction? Where does it plainly identify one class as eternally heavenly and another as eternally earthly? Because without a clear biblical statement, the doctrine creates the very confusion it claims to resolve; two saved groups, two final locations, and two different purposes in God’s completed plan. The burden is not to assume the separation it is to prove it from the text.

MaxInDHouse:
Imagine both of us never had anything to do with these books and someone is about to convince us to believe what is written in any of the books is it not wise to ask these questions:

1. Where did this Creator intended for humans to live in the beginning?

2. What led to all these troubles?

3. Why do people die and where are they now?

4. What is happening to our dead loved ones?

5. What is God's program for the earth in the future?

6. What will happen to all those who are virtuous?

All these questions and many more are answered in the Bible that is why you need to examine what any of the book says before questioning one simply because of what the other says.

God never intended that man should live in heaven {Psalms 115:16} so earth is the only place habitable for humans because we are made of flesh just like other creatures. Psalms 37:9-11, 29; Proverbs 2:20-22
Heaven is for spirit creatures that is why Jesus promised his corulers whom he wanted to take along with him to heaven {John 14:1-3} that they will no longer live as humans but as spirit beings (angels) in their new destination. Luke 20:34-36

In any society the rulers have their own abode government house so Jesus promised that his corulers will be taken to heaven with him and of course they are limited in number! Revelation 7:5-8; 14:1

This is clear enough if you're not going into unnecessary arguments.

So i purposely exposed your book so that you can see your Quran can't answer any question at all everything is confusing.

When i said no Muslim scholar can use your Quran to answer any question you may think i just said it but now it's been proven! 🙂

There's no need for ridicule or valuable arguments to win by that. The issue isn't whether Adam was created from the earth. Muslims affirm that as well.o
Genesis 2:10–14 associates Eden with earthly geography, including the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, so an earthly setting is a reasonable reading of the text. But even if we grant that entirely, it still doesn't answer the question that was raised.
The discussion was never about whether Adam was created on earth. It was about where the Bible explicitly teaches two permanent classes of saved believers with two eternal destinations. Pointing to Adam's creation account doesn't establish that doctrine. It simply changes the subject.
So rather than debating Adam's origin which both traditions affirm return to the actual issue.Where does Scripture explicitly teach two permanent classes of the saved with two permanent eternal destinies?

MaxInDHouse:
What a shame?
So when the Bible EXPLICITLY STATES that humans (Adam and Eve) were created on planet earth your Quran is confused as to where exactly the first humans were created yet you are here questioning the Bible?😂