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SIRTee15:
A Christian brother called mightysparrow created a topic called Islam And It's Impacts On Modern Day Yoruba People.
Note This thread was created by a Christian and not a Muslim.
People will not believe that the topic has been moved to the islamic section where U have to say the Shahada before U can comment.

The question is why? How did a topic created by a Christian brother end up in the islamic section?.

The trend of the thread extended to whether Muhammed was killed by Allah because he was a false prophet.
I brought evidence from the hadith and Quran to support the assertion that Allah killed Muhammed by severing his aorta possibly because he was a false prophet.

No Muslim could refute my claim. All they yapping about was the so called richness of Arabic language and the pathophysiology of poison/aortic disease.

The challenge for muslims was why did Muhammed described the illness that killed him exactly the way Allah said he would kill Muhammed if he's ever caught lying.

Next thing I noticed was they moved the topic to islamic section so that the topic could be killed.

If Muslims are embarrassed by their Prophet, that's their business not mine or any other Christian. But they shouldn't control a thread not created by them by bullying or intimidating moderators to move it to islamic section.

There was no blasphemous statement against Muhammed on the thread. Everything we Christians wrote was deducted from their books.

Above is criticism and not blasphemy. Muslims should learn the difference.
Criticising Muhammed is not the same as blasphemy against him.
Most matured Christians here don't even bother about mocking their prophet or anything like that. We simply point them to the truth in their own books which apparently Muslims don't like.

Muslims should stop behaving like cowards and learn to defend their prophet and their religion. If it's the truth, they should not be ashamed of it.

Muslims are so embarrassed by the way and manners their prophet died they didn't want the thread alive anymore- they want it dead.

Imagine the deception. If U are so proud of your prophet. Why are U scared of his dark side?

Here is what the argument is all about just to let all of u know this not a case of blasphemy or anything.

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For someone who isn't scared, embarrassed and feigning medical expertise by mumbo jombo identity the different words for:

1. aorta in the Quran and hadith

2. Show medically how a single exposure to food poisoning will kill the victim years after without showing any ailment except shortly before death.

It is medically improbable that prophet Muhammad pbuh died directly from food poisoning over three years after exposure to the toxin

MaxInDHouse:
Guy you're a THEIST just like all others there is no need talking about what you believe all we need now is you're one of those claiming God or Gods exists!

In your dreams deceptive former Muslim that became a JW at odds with other followers of Christianity and Jesus.

Theism in Islam stands out from other theistic religions mainly due to its strict monotheism (Tawhid), the unique characteristics ascribed to God, a specific interpretation of revelation through prophethood, the distinct dynamics of the relationship between God and humanity, a divinely mandated moral framework, and its beliefs about judgment after death.

MaxInDHouse:
Concepts you say?
Naaaaaaaaah since they all claimed they believe in the supernatural we don't need to discuss about whatever concept they have all we need now is they all agree that there is the supernatural.
Does this mean you're on the same page with worshipers of Ṣàngó, Ọya, Ògún and Obàtálá?

Type of supernatural.
I don't believe in God begeting and you do.
Neither do I believe in a begotten dying for God to admit me to paradise and that is fundamentally different.

Besides you believe in existence of other gods alongside the almighty whoch Muslims don't and that is a fundamentally distinctive difference.

Explore2xmore:
You were asked a simple question to identify the word for aorta in arabic from the Quran and the hadith and you are here with repeated typing diarrhoea.

Is this your answer to the medical challenges you cannot defend?

Neither can you show any narration that he experienced any pain through the years after his poisoning? Is this the undeniable evidence you rely on?


On what you earlier said;

Explore2xmore:


Kindly indulge your educated ignorance and show evidence to suggest that chronic aortic dissection or aortic aneurysm can be directly caused by food poisoning.
Present examples of a singular case of poisoning that lead to death years post administration.

Present your paper to a medical journal if you like.


You wrote:
This is why I don't like debating non medics on medical matters.
What do you understand by food poisoning? Food poisoning is simply food borne illness caused by bacteria and their enterotoxins.
It's different from what we talking about here.
The Jewish women added a toxic substance called poison to Muhammed's food. That's not food poisoning....ok.

So many toxins in the body can predispose to aortic dissection e.g nicotine, cocaine, methamphetamine, carbazide and plant poisons.

Muhammed himself said he started having agonizing pain since he was exposed to the poison from the Jewish woman.
He said he feels like the poison is severing his aorta. Muhammed simply described how he felt.

You are not there to say Muhammed description of his pain is wrong. He was the one in pain and described how he felt.

The question should be why did the Prophet of Allah described himself dying in the same manner Allah had said he would die if he's ever caught lying?

SIRTee15:
Now to your response. First let's get some things clear.

1. Allah made it clear in the Quran if Muhammed is ever caught lying against him, He would grab him and kill him by SEVERING HIS AORTA.

2. On Muhammed's death bed, he confessed his pain feels like his aorta is being severed.

3. Muhammed said the pain from his aorta started
since he ate the poison from the Jewish woman 3 years earlier.
Let's get one thing clear, [s]Muhammed may be wrong or right about the cause of his pain. [/s]But we do know is that he died a slow, agonizing and painful death which he attributed to aortic pain.

How did Muhammad die?

Allah himself may have directly severed Muhammed's aorta and allowed it to leak slowly, thus the chronic aorta pain he had.
Allah may prolonged the half life of the poison Muhammed ate thus allowing for it's sustained exposure in his body and enough time to cause damage on Muhammed's aorta.

It's even possible Allah used another pathophysiology to damage Muhammed's aorta and may not even be related to aortic dissection or the poison at all.

The crux of the matter is did Allah fulfil his warning by making Muhammad die of aortic pain ?

Hadith are not scientific books, they are historical documents. Directly applying scientific methodology is not applicable.

But what is applicable is the spiritual and theology understanding of the document.

Allah said if Muhammed is ever caught lying and making things up. He will kill him by severing his aorta.
Muhammed confessed on his death bed that the pain he's having is like his aorta has been severed.

The question U and other muslims should answer is why did Muhammed described the illness that killed him exactly the way Allah said he would kill Muhammed if he's ever caught lying.

That's the bigger question.

Extremely simple Mr Medical expert present cases of food poisoning that have taken over 3 years to kill their patient.

You listed some compounds that can predispose to aortic dissection but fail to show that this occurs when they are chronically used. Is a singular ingestion at poisoning equal to this?
Single exposures to nicotine, cocaine, methamphetamine, carbazide, or plant toxins may not directly lead to an aortic dissection.
Stop hiding under illusory medical expertise and show exactly how.

The prophet did not continually complain of pain after the poisoning though apparent reference was made to it as he neared his passing. Bring other narrations between the poisoning and his illness before his death unless you now claim he took ill immediately after the poisoning?
Your art of deception is marvellous when you can't answer or refuse to answer questions clearly asked

I had informed of a metaphoric statement regarding the crossed.

Tell me how a singular medical exposure will take over 3years to kill a patient without any ailment seen during the period since ingestion?

MaxInDHouse:
Great!
So next time don't speak against THEISTS since all THEISTS are on the same page!

Definitely not as so called theists have different concepts of the almighty God.

MaxInDHouse:
Good!

So called adherents just as an atheist will take you the same way he takes ògún and ṣàngó worshipers after all you're all THEISTS to him claiming you believe in God/Gods.

At least you accept that the so called adherents of your Jesus also kill. You too are a theist aren't you so you are very well included.

Excellent!

SIRTee15:
You Muslims are cowards. Imagine U people ran to mods to take the topic Islam and it's impact on modern day Yoruba people to your hideous islamic section.
Muslims are so embarrassed by the way and manners their prophet died they didn't want the thread alive anymore- they want it dead.

Imagine the deception. If U are so proud of your prophet. Why are U scared of his dark side?

Now to your response. First let's get some things clear.

1. Allah made it clear in the Quran if Muhammed is ever caught lying against him, He would grab him and kill him by SEVERING HIS AORTA.

2. On Muhammed's death bed, he confessed his pain feels like his aorta is being severed.

3. Muhammed said the pain from his aorta started
since he ate the poison from the Jewish woman 3 years earlier.
Let's get one thing clear, Muhammed may be wrong or right about the cause of his pain. But we do know is that he died a slow, agonizing and painful death which he attributed to aortic pain.

How did Muhammad die?

Allah himself may have directly severed Muhammed's aorta and allowed it to leak slowly, thus the chronic aorta pain he had.
Allah may prolonged the half life of the poison Muhammed ate thus allowing for it's sustained exposure in his body and enough time to cause damage on Muhammed's aorta.

It's even possible Allah used another pathophysiology to damage Muhammed's aorta and may not even be related to aortic dissection or the poison at all.

The crux of the matter is did Allah fulfil his warning by making Muhammad die of aortic pain ?

Hadith are not scientific books, they are historical documents. Directly applying scientific methodology is not applicable.

But what is applicable is the spiritual and theology understanding of the document.

Allah said if Muhammed is ever caught lying and making things up. He will kill him by severing his aorta.
Muhammed confessed on his death bed that the pain he's having is like his aorta has been severed.

The question U and other muslims should answer is why did Muhammed described the illness that killed him exactly the way Allah said he would kill Muhammed if he's ever caught lying.

That's the bigger question.

You were asked a simple question to identify the word for aorta in arabic from the Quran and the hadith and you are here with repeated typing diarrhoea.

Is this your answer to the medical challenges you cannot defend?

Neither can you show any narration that he experienced any pain through the years after his poisoning? Is this the undeniable evidence you rely on?


On what you earlier said;

Explore2xmore:


Kindly indulge your educated ignorance and show evidence to suggest that chronic aortic dissection or aortic aneurysm can be directly caused by food poisoning.
Present examples of a singular case of poisoning that lead to death years post administration.

Present your paper to a medical journal if you like.


You wrote:
This is why I don't like debating non medics on medical matters.
What do you understand by food poisoning? Food poisoning is simply food borne illness caused by bacteria and their enterotoxins.
It's different from what we talking about here.
The Jewish women added a toxic substance called poison to Muhammed's food. That's not food poisoning....ok.

So many toxins in the body can predispose to aortic dissection e.g nicotine, cocaine, methamphetamine, carbazide and plant poisons.

Muhammed himself said he started having agonizing pain since he was exposed to the poison from the Jewish woman.
He said he feels like the poison is severing his aorta. Muhammed simply described how he felt.

You are not there to say Muhammed description of his pain is wrong. He was the one in pain and described how he felt.

The question should be why did the Prophet of Allah described himself dying in the same manner Allah had said he would die if he's ever caught lying?

SIRTee15:
You Muslims are cowards. Imagine U people ran to mods to take the topic Islam and it's impact on modern day Yoruba people to your hideous islamic section.
Muslims are so embarrassed by the way and manners their prophet died they didn't want the thread alive anymore- they want it dead.

Imagine the deception. If U are so proud of your prophet. Why are U scared of his dark side?

Now to your response. First let's get some things clear.

1. Allah made it clear in the Quran if Muhammed is ever caught lying against him, He would grab him and kill him by SEVERING HIS AORTA.

2. On Muhammed's death bed, he confessed his pain feels like his aorta is being severed.

3. Muhammed said the pain from his aorta started
since he ate the poison from the Jewish woman 3 years earlier.
Let's get one thing clear, Muhammed may be wrong or right about the cause of his pain. But we do know is that he died a slow, agonizing and painful death which he attributed to aortic pain.

How did Muhammad die?

Allah himself may have directly severed Muhammed's aorta and allowed it to leak slowly, thus the chronic aorta pain he had.
Allah may prolonged the half life of the poison Muhammed ate thus allowing for it's sustained exposure in his body and enough time to cause damage on Muhammed's aorta.

It's even possible Allah used another pathophysiology to damage Muhammed's aorta and may not even be related to aortic dissection or the poison at all.

The crux of the matter is did Allah fulfil his warning by making Muhammad die of aortic pain ?

Hadith are not scientific books, they are historical documents. Directly applying scientific methodology is not applicable.

But what is applicable is the spiritual and theology understanding of the document.

Allah said if Muhammed is ever caught lying and making things up. He will kill him by severing his aorta.
Muhammed confessed on his death bed that the pain he's having is like his aorta has been severed.

The question U and other muslims should answer is why did Muhammed described the illness that killed him exactly the way Allah said he would kill Muhammed if he's ever caught lying.

That's the bigger question.

You are simply despicable. You quoted me but edited my content?

What relevance is this?
My original post from when?

Explore2xmore:
There appears some verses in the Bible that say reincarnation doesn't occur.
Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment

Yet Jesus is said to say Elijah had come but wasn't recognised. Matthew 11:10-14.

Where was Elijah said to have come?

Then he is also said to come again at the end of the world.


Attn: Fxmasterz,SirTee15,Malcom1x,Maximdhouse,Mightysparrow,MrPrevailer,Tenq and all who can shed light and knowledge about this.

MaxInDHouse:
WHO?

You are fighting to deny that despite a claimed belief in Jesus killing and fighting still occurs among the so called adherents.

MaxInDHouse:
After Jesus anyone fighting to kill people is not a worshiper of the true God!

The truth is they are still fighting.

SIRTee15:
This is why I don't like debating non medics on medical matters.
What do you understand by food poisoning? Food poisoning is simply food borne illness caused by bacteria and their enterotoxins.
It's different from what we talking about here.
The Jewish women added a toxic substance called poison to Muhammed's food. That's not food poisoning....ok.

So many toxins in the body can predispose to aortic dissection e.g nicotine, cocaine, methamphetamine, carbazide and plant poisons.

Muhammed himself said he started having agonizing pain since he was exposed to the poison from the Jewish woman.
He said he feels like the poison is severing his aorta. Muhammed simply described how he felt.

You are not there to say Muhammed description of his pain is wrong. He was the one in pain and described how he felt.

The question should be why did the Prophet of Allah described himself dying in the same manner Allah had said he would die if he's ever caught lying?

Extremely simple Mr Medical expert present cases of food poisoning that have taken over 3 years to kill their patient.

You listed some compounds that can predispose to aortic dissection but fail to show that this occurs when they are chronically used. Is a singular ingestion at poisoning equal to this?
Single exposures to nicotine, cocaine, methamphetamine, carbazide, or plant toxins may not directly lead to an aortic dissection.
Stop hiding under illusory medical expertise and show exactly how.

The prophet did not continually complain of pain after the poisoning though apparent reference was made to it as he neared his passing. Bring other narrations between the poisoning and his illness before his death unless you now claim he took ill immediately after the poisoning?
Your art of deception is marvellous when you can't answer or refuse to answer questions clearly asked.

MaxInDHouse:
You're mixing things up Mr Muslim after Jesus of Nazareth has come to establish preaching and teaching globally any religion supporting war is no longer on God's side. So if you know any religion whose members are part of the worldly forces such ones aren't followers of the Christ who commanded his disciples to love and pray for their enemies! Luke 6:27-28

According to your Islam there was a time your Allah have nothing against some things but due to misuse of privileges your god will send words to your prophet telling Muslims to stop such things so don't be hypocritical now the Bible God supported wars to protect the Holy city (Jerusalem) and the temple which is the representation of pure worship back then but from the very day Jesus declared that pure worship is no longer about a geographical location {John 4:24} worshipers of the true God knew that there is no reason to pick up weapons against their neighbors.
WHY?
There is nothing to protect again using weapons {Matthew 26:52} even their very life is safe in the hands of the God who promised them a resurrection {Matthew 10:28} but as for those thinking weapons will save them let's see how long they will protect it from death! Matthew 10:39

You mean the cases I listed were before Jesus came?

MaxInDHouse:
So were worshipers of this God fighting and killing their fellow worshipers?
Of course that's ongoing dispute between light and darkness back then so there were people on God's side while there were those on Satan's side.
At least you can mention those on God's side in the Bible can you tell me those who are on God's side today?

Ignore your history like St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre, Cromwellian conquest and the
the Ku Klux Klan that has used Christian language to rationalize their violent actions against Catholics and other non-Protestant communities.

Besides why does your god turn a blind eye to your alleged people of light being killed by the dark?

SIRTee15:
I think U should take your own advice.
The highlighted is ignorance in display.
Pls read chronic aortic dissection and aortic aneurysm...then come back and swallow your vomit.

SIRTee15:
Do U know how poisoning works?
Have U heard of lead or arsenic poisoning?
So U don't know exposure to poisons causes long term complications in the body ?

Kindly indulge your educated ignorance and show evidence to suggest that chronic aortic dissection or aortic aneurysm can be directly caused by food poisoning.
Present examples of a singular case of poisoning that lead to death years post administration.

Present your paper to a medical journal if you like.

MaxInDHouse:
And that God approves worshipers killing one another while the do called one God watches shey?

Ọmọ if your religion can't help resolve issues causing division, disparities and killings among worshipers know today that it's not the God of Abraham but a demon pretending and lying to deceive you!

Vain angle isn't this?

Your Bible talks of Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Zechariah, John the Baptist and other prophets killed or do we refer to the disciples/apostles of Jesus? What did the Biblical gods do about these?

SIRTee15:
U are being clever by half.
Muhammed admitted to poison inside him.
He confessed to his wife that the poison is killing him.

How is the poison killing him?
He said it's like his aorta is being severed. So what is the aorta is being severed?

Muhammed cannot be talking metaphorically because he mentioned a physical substance inside his body that his killing him.
He admitted there is a poison inside of him killing him.
That is not a metaphor my friend.

Try harder.

So in whole 4 years the body will not have excreted the poison? This is not a lodged arrow or bullet wound.

SIRTee15:
If Muhammed had said he's feeling unwell and it seems like his aorta is being severed, I will understand that could be a metaphorical statement.

But Muhammed mentioned a physical substance inside his body is killing him.
He now described how that physical substance is killing him and u telling me that's a metaphor.

Common man, the only reason U are extricating Muhammed is because U are a Muslim.
Nothing more.

Your dislike and bias against Islam becloud your logical reasoning. You are able to do research and should clearly show a single slow acting poison will take 4 years to kill someone in 7th century Arabia.

Medically, the cutting or rupture of the aorta leads to immediate death. The Prophet lived for years after the poisoning at Khaybar, indicating that the reference was figurative.

If you use blind emotion to think please keep at it and may it satisfy you. Simply identifying the word used for aorta in the Quran verse and the hadith you hold strongly to has proven to high above your intelligence.

SIRTee15:
I'm not a native Arab speaker so I'm not going to indulge in irrelevant linguistic argument.

Aorta is an organ in the body and we only have one.
Saying the meaning of aorta in the 2 sentence is different is saying there are 2 organs in the body named aorta.

And that makes no sense because there's only ONE ORGAN IN THE BODY CALLED AORTA.

Muhammed and Allah are both referring TO THE ONE AND ONLY AND SAME AORTA IN THE BODY.
If U think otherwise, then prove it.

You are far smarter than what you have written. Is the aorta the sole vessel that poses severe implications to life?

The Prophet pbuh employed metaphorical language to convey his suffering, which does not suggest a literal cutting of the aorta besides this is not actual translation of the arabic word used.

It is common to use vivid metaphors to describe severe pain or distress in arabic.

MaxInDHouse:
Your Islam didn't teach you liberalism and how to discuss with patience so you're free to end the discussion anyhow you like but know today that the Bible's message isn't about one God rather there are many as in MANY GODS that people throughout the earth worship each God is being worshiped based on their attributes.
The Bible God claims to be the only true God that's why He is doing certain things to prove that all others are nothing before him.
As for your Allah it's just one of the MANY GODS but claiming to be the same as that of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
It's not just claims we need to figure out the one and only true God rather the true God must do certain things that no other can do that's what the Bible God promised and all the false GODS including your Allah has been trying to hide that truth from you diverting your attention to lies.
When you care to know what the Bible God promised which no other gods can do i'm here to enlighten you!

Fundamentally you have stated the existence of different gods for different places and people hence it's best to logically leave you to your beliefs. I believe in one God that created and sustains all things.

SIRTee15:
Why did your scholars translated both words as Aorta?

Whatever the translation please point out the arabic words then we can look at the reasons for translation

MaxInDHouse:
The message must be taken to the whole world for a witness against them that they had the opportunity to know the only true religion {Matthew 24:14} but only humble people will accept it just as it happened in the days of Noah!

God wants everyone in the world to hear about His coming government and the goodies that will come with it but it's left to each person whether you will accept or not.
The lie Islam is telling you is that prophets in the Bible are just talking about one God but that's not the truth!

When your done turning logic on its head?

So you confirm the truth that the Bible is of many fake gods ?

Good to see you show yourself.

We have nothing to discuss more so your colleague in discussion dissociate Christianity from a monotheist one God

MaxInDHouse:
The visit of astrologers in Jerusalem shows that a foretold King has been born and since the king at that time wasn't pleased with the news himself and his cohorts buried the case even though it led to the death of many children in Bethlehem Ephrata! Matthew 2:16
When things happen in politics most of you will think it just happened but politicians know what they are trying to cover up from the masses.
So the birth and life of Jesus surely affected the Israelites even though politicians are bent on hiding it from the people. Act 4:18;5:28


NO! God's word never said the whole world should accept him because that is not possible it has always been only a few people that used to be saved! Luke 17:25-30
This is not Islam where people should be forced to accept what they don't understand Jesus sent his own disciples to go and visit neighbors in their homes PREACHING (PLEADING) with them to calmly listen in order to grasp what is happening {Matthew 28:19-20} he never expected people in large numbers to accept him that's why he said his disciples will be persecuted and of course minority can't persecute the majority nah it's only the majority that will persecute the minority! Matthew 24:9
So it's not by force that you accept the Christ as your King after all you don't know why but as for humble people they will understand! Matthew 5:5 compare to Zephaniah 2:2-3

In your Acts 5:28 they filled Jerusalem with their teaching which includes Jesus is the Messiah?

Still the Jews don't accept Jesus as the Messiah or the Jews are not of Jerusalem?

God never said the whole world and you are surpassing this to take this message to the whole world? ? ?

Stop spinning please

SIRTee15:
Are U kiddng me!!! U better don't go there or else I will bury U.
Someone is dying and said it feels like my aorta is being severed.
Allah said he will kill Muhammed by cutting his aorta.
Common sense will tell U aorta in both sentences mean the same thing.

The AORTA is the biggest blood vessel in the body and main artery that sustain life.
Severe it and death is knocking on the door.

There can be no alternative meaning to this word aorta in both sentences. They both mean death by cutting off main blood vessel in the body.

Only LIARS will want to extricate Muhammed from the embarrassment he found himself.
U better be careful and don't end up like Muhammed.
God hates LIARS. HE'S STILL IN THE BUSINESS OF SEVERING AORTA OF LIARS.

What words are used for aorta in arabic and the hadith?

SIRTee15:
Do U know the difference between 'Messiah' and 'The Messiah'

What U defined up there is messiah.
Now go and look for the definition of THE MESSIAH- Al Mashiah

Maybe your Bible should clearly show me this difference. Can you point me in the right direction?

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus was never accepted as the Messiah by the Jewish nation so they can't accept him as King or Highpriest but among faithful Jews they knew Jesus fulfilled many prophecies that has to do with the Messiah and don't forget what happened at his birth Cheldians traveled all the way from the East to come and do Obeisance to the one born King of the Jews!

After Jesus had been born in Bethʹle·hem of Ju·deʹa in the days of Herod the king, look! astrologers from the East came to Jerusalem,  saying: “Where is the one born king of the Jews? For we saw his star when we were in the East, and we have come to do obeisance to him.” At hearing this, King Herod was agitated, and all Jerusalem with him. Matthew 2:2-3

Astrologers saw a star that has never been seen before from the far East pointing to the birth of a great king of the Jews angels announced his birth to shepherds {Luke 2:8-14} and prophets in Jerusalem's temple confirmed that this child is the Messiah. Luke 2:25-38

So my friend i know that you are a Muslim and Islam doesn't teach you much about the Messiah that's why you are saying all these but if you are sincere with yourself you will know from all these accounts that there has never been born anyone like Jesus of Nazareth!

What impact did the astrologers have on the people other than this singular incident at his birth? Who again referred to this astrologers in the 30+ years of Jesus life?

Jesus was never accepted as Messiah by the Jews yet the whole world should accept him? How?

MaxInDHouse:
The first mention of anointing was Aaron the Highpriest of Israel and God never asked them to choose a king it was rebellion against God's arrangement that led Israelites into demanding for a King. 1Samuel 8:1-18

Since God's purpose for the salvation of mankind is the Messiah who will serve as Highpriest and King just like Melchizedek then anyone who is going to rule over His people must be anointed to foreshadow the presence of Messiah in their midst.

So no one served as King and priest at the same time because that privilege is for no one except the Christ (Messiah)

Stop misbehaving. Jesus was neither formally recognized as a king or priest during his life unless the claimed mockery at his alleged crucifixion is what you refer to.

David was acknowledged as a prophet in Acts

PROVERBZ:
This issue of monotheism is not an issue in Christianity. We believe in the true God and not in 'one God'. However God is one which implies monotheism, but this is not an issue in Christianity.
The main focus is the worship of the true God.
But, the way Muslims are fixated on this 'montheism' revealed something to me. In the Bible the devil Aka anto christ in obsessed with monotheism. I also heard Mohamed considered Persian religion to be true because it was monotheistic.
Ans Muslims male claims that budah was a prophet from Allah etc.
Take a look at this verses.

Are you for real?

Is Christianity now not a monotheist religion due to your excesses in the trinity?

Do you attest to this by your statement that you do not believe in one God?

MaxInDHouse:
The point is clear David was never anointed to serve as prophet so during his life time no one thought of David as prophet he was a shepherd boy who later became a king he was not serving as prophet.

As for the Messiah he will serve as Highpriest and King just like Melchizedek! Psalms 110:4

You should list all your recognised prophet in your Bible or Christianity and classify them into those categorically annointed and those who were not.

Then ask if David impacted any prophetic guidance as King of Israel

MaxInDHouse:
Good point you raised there!

But do you remember that David was never considered a prophet in his life time?

He was inspired to sing about future events but Nathan was the prophet serving when David was king of Israel but as for the Messiah nobody will serve as Highpriest or King except him when he begins his rule!

Oh! Because Nathan was a prophet there could be no other prophet in existence at the same time?

You don't understand that there are different reasons for anointing and place a narrow view on this?

MaxInDHouse:
The Jews knew what "ANOINTED" means but in the case of the Messiah God promised the Israelites that one will have a double portion unlike all other humans who has been anointed before him.

Anointing is for two offices in Israel the office of the Highpriest and that of a King so talking about anointing an Israelite could be anointed as the Highpriest in Israel or anointed as King but the promised Messiah will have double anointing because he will serve as Highpriest and King simultaneously.

That is what king David himself knew before addressing this Messiah as "Lord"

"The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth. The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek." Psalms 110:1-4

The highlighted in blue shows how David who himself is an anointed highly revere the promised Messiah while the highlighted in green shows that the real Messiah will serve as both Highpriest and King just like Melchizedek.

Thanks for reading our book your book God's word the Bible!

Elisha was not a prophet anointed by Elijah?

1 Kings 19:16


David was both anointed to be king and considered a prophet because of the psalms

You make bold to say that there are not anointing for different purposes outside priesthood and kingship?

PROVERBZ:
I am going to pretend as if I do not know of this specific messiah and just assume that everybody God has had dealings with is a messiah. I want to understand why the title is exclusively used only for Jesus carrying along the same Jewish and Christian tradition that claims this prophesied messiah is tasked with a special duty?

Why Is nobody else anointed or described ad anointed asides Jesus in the quran?

Do you know what the intertestamental period Is?

Do you not know that the Israelites had strayed from their path before Jesus emerged as a prophet, marked by spiritual disunity, moral decay, and a disregard for prophetic teachings?

Did Jesus not come to guide the Israelites back to true monotheism or your Bible is devoid of him stating that God is one and testifying to the truth of the older scripture?

https://www.learnreligions.com/who-is-the-anointed-one-in-the-bible-363390


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