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[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=715177.msg8736149#msg8736149 date=1310939064]me, u brought me to this website with your provocative statements

and i am sure many others [/quote]And I was brought to NL by threads that bashed the Ndigbo so what is your point? 

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=715177.msg8736026#msg8736026 date=1310937321]EzeUche please connect with your Ibibio root where you come from and stop this your crying more than the bereaved. As we know you CAN never speak for the true sons & daughters of the east as an OSU.

95% of aggression on NL towards the Igbo can be attributed to your mentality, and how you have succeded in casting the Igbos in bad light.
Funny enough you have started yeilding fruits, as anonymous NLander was making reference to YOU and how his view was changed by your activities. I was bewilded, dumbfounded and amaze with the expose, but then i chuckle and laugh silently cos i have to conceal my identity and remain stealth.
Now all am going to ask is for you be man enough to take responsibility for once.[/quote]

Source

I read somewhere that this erosion in Igboland can be traced to the days of the palm oil trade. Seems like that plant will continue to impact us, since is loosened our soil.

Erosion is an ecological disaster that continues to plague Igboland.

https://www.wief.net/images/ekwulobia_gully-01.jpg

The Igbo governors need to tackle this erosion problem before it is too late!

Erosion in Anambra, erosion in Ebonyi, erosion in Abia. I do not know if there is erosion in Imo or Enugu though.

Great thread

To think people would compare Awolowo to Nnamdi Azikiwe.  

Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe is often compared with Dr. Kwame Nkrumah, Jomo Kenyatta, Ahmed Sekou Toure, Leopold Senghor.

Do you know what these people have in common? They were there nation's first leaders. Not some internal tribal leaders, who was jealous of another man's achievements.

seanet02:
Who built the the Largest and the first  industrial estate in the Whole of West Africa (weedland) included?
AWOLOWO!

Another dumb question. Stay on topic. Awolowo is no Zik. That is why no one knows his name outside of Nigeria.

However, people know about Nigeria's [b]FIRST [/b]President, Nnamdi Azikiwe. And they also know about Balewa, but no Awolowo who was simply a glorified minister.

seanet02:
If your weedland is that economically developed by that clueless efulefu you adored what are weeds(ibos) doing in Lagos in large quantities? By the way why is the graveyard of your beloved efulefu left to rot away like that? Don't you weeds have a sense of history?

The same reason why Igbos are in Abuja. Because Lagos was the former capital of Nigeria. Dumb question.

To all those who said no one has listed Zik's accomplishments, I think some of you are blind, because people have continuously posted them. Some of them can be seen on this very page.  

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=715177.msg8734942#msg8734942 date=1310925187]You didn't understand my question. Anyway, so your issue is the first one I raised, not the second.[/quote]Your first question seemed to illustrate that non-indigenous people would rather live in Sabon gari. But they have no choice.

Horus:
I dont believe this article.  How can Al-Qaeda "advertise" their plan to set up a command and control base in Nigeria?
What next?, Al-Qaeda will provide to us a map with an accurate location of this base?

Al-Qaeda often does that. They like to announce areas where they wish to operate. Look at Somalia and Yemen, besides the usual Al-Qaeda strongholds of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=715177.msg8734887#msg8734887 date=1310924574]Your reference to the Sabon Garis, is your issue that people don't feel safe living outside of them?

Because if your issue is just having a separate neighborhood, well we have the same in the south.[/quote]I guess you do not know what Sabon Gari means. All non-Indigenous people are expected to live outside cities in the North such as Kano in specified areas.

If you go to the South, there is more freedom to live in different areas.

homerac7:
@ OP,

What a faulty map u have. Kaduna and Gombe aren't sharia states. Also, your map is poor in representation of d complexity of smaller ethnicities wc can't just b lumped up wt other "larger" ones. It creates inaccuracies and fallacies in d final argument.

Is that your only complaint? Are you serious?

Forget the map and just comment on the fault lines that can be seen within the states that implement Sharia law.

Seanet1000:
OP always whining.

I guess you do not know a definition of a whine.

If you want a definition of a whine, go to the first thread in this section and see how you were begging/pleading with the Mods to stop banning you.

Or when you wanted you name unbanned. That seems like whining to me compared to stating facts.

This is very serious. People should know that discussions like this will attract the West to become involved in what is occurring in the North.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=715177.msg8734828#msg8734828 date=1310923686]Still on cannabis? Slow and painful death atlast!
Don't you people claim the majorities of your so-called 'faulty lines'? Wetin una see sef . You think you will be allowed to take other peoples property for free? Thank goodness no more 'we owned lagos' for some times NOW. Sigh of things to come and a relief.

"I hear there is going to be another flood in Lagos", so Ezeuche lets party!    
so what happen to the 70% of lagos, 50% of kano, 65% of kaduna, 95% of Rivers you own?  lmao.[/quote]You do not represent the views of your people. I don't even view you as Yoruba anymore.

Learn from people like Fela. Cannabis can be good for you. 

[img]http://files.myopera.com/gregorywills/albums/2980991/fela(jumbo%20weed).jpg[/img]

Ripples over Al Qaeda planned base in Nigeria


*Govt debunks claim •Experts examine alleged bid

By Hugo Odiogor

Al-Qaeda’s alleged plan to set up a command and control base in Nigeria is creating diplomatic ripples as Nigeria debunked the claim, last week, insisting that country is not a safe haven for anarchist groups. Indications, however, emerged that the pro-jihadist group may have chosen to set up its operational base in Nigeria in its terrorist war with America and the Western countries.

Britain’s intelligence MI5 had allegedly warned the prime minister, Mr. David Cameron, that Al-Qaeda wants to set up a command and control centre in Nigeria to gain access to the United Kingdom (UK) where there are dozens of flights from Lagos to London daily.

FG dismisses claim
Officials of Federal Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Abuja dismissed the claim in an interview with Sunday Vanguard, calling it a brilliant piece of fiction that suits the mood of the times. An official of the ministry, who pleaded confidentiality, said: “That report did not substantiate its claim but just preferred to cite the Boko Haram uprising to buttress it. It is a perfect conjecture of the author’s imagination.

It is obvious that haters of Nigeria will capitalise on the Boko Haram incident to further dent the image of the country.” The official will not elaborate on why the FG has not issued an official statement on the claim that was published on July 4, 2011, saying “government does not conduct its operations based on media reports.”

Calculations
But diplomatic sources in Lagos cited several factors that may have favoured Al-Qaeda strategy in considering using Nigeria as a launch pad. First, according to the sources, is the issue of lack of consensus among the ruling elite on the acquisition and use of political power which is tearing them from the different parts of the country apart. The sources explained that the winner takes it all mentality and the attitude of ‘let’s destroy if it is not ours’ has paved the way for a deep gulf that external forces may capitalise on politically and economically.

“The people who lead radical groups like Al-Qaeda are smart politically and will cash-in on this to their advantage. This is what the multinational oil companies are doing and a multinational terrorist group like Al-Qaeda is very smart”, one of the sources told Sunday Vanguard. Another critical factor listed is the issue of Nigeria’s international borders and weak internal security network. Said our source: “Our porous borders make it possible for narco-terrorism and gun running to thrive.

Narco-terrorism thrives in this kind of environment because it provides the anarchists easy access to funds to pursue their cause. With the global community targeting the source of funds used by terrorists, they would want a country where the banking regulations are weak and the internal security is lax. @With the drug war in Mexico being part of the global strategy to cut off the source of funds through narco-terrorism, it is obvious that the evil men would look for another safe haven, which is where Nigeria with it porous borders becomes attractive because it makes it easier for them to move in and out of the country without much hindrance. They could consider recruitment of attackers from neigbouring countries which have been identified as providing personnel to unleash mayhem in Nigeria”.

Thirdly, the state institutions in Nigeria are considered to be weak, especially the law enforcement agencies and the judiciary which are believed to be reluctant to apprehend and punish suspected terrorists. “It is one thing to have the anti-terrorism legislation and another to have the political will to enforce it. Unfortunately, there is no political will to do that and, when you have a large army of unemployed young people who want easy access to wealth, rogue groups like Al- Qaeda will easily recruit people to do its jobs. For these deprived people, their love for money is high than the level of love for their country. In a country where a lot of its citizens are living below the poverty line national interest it is so easy to compromise,” the diplomatic source said.
“We know that countries like Yemen, Somalia, Kenya were considered by Al-Qaeda as potential candidates for their operational base but Nigeria is strategic as an influential country in sub-Sahara Africa with the highest Muslim population and a high concentration of western economic interests with endemic corruption, high incidence of poverty and fervent fundamentalist fire in the northern part of the country. It is so easy to compromise national interest for material gains.”

But a US based security consultant told Sunday Vanguard: “Since the killing of Osama Bin Laden, the feared Al-Qaeda leader, in May, relations between the US and Pakistan has been at the lowest ebb because of the violation of the sovereignty of the Asian country. The targeting of known Al-Qadea leaders worldwide has made those countries unsafe for them and there is no guarantee that Nigeria will be a secure base for Al-Qaeda. I have doubts that Nigeria, especially the north, will provide the expected safe haven for Al Qaeda.”

Mrs. Uchenn C. Ekwueme, an expert in international relations, said the Federal Government must address the issues that make Nigeria a potential base for the Al-Qaeda instead of sweeping the claim under the carpet. According to her, there is social discontent at all the social strata and this poses serious threats to national security. “The threat from MASSOB, OPC, Niger Delta militants and now Boko Haram raises serious concerns on the ability of the state to enforce its laws”, she stated.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/07/ripples-over-al-qaeda-planned-base-in-nigeria/

That is why I am trying to resist arguing with these Yoruba imposters. Whenever I am with my Yoruba friends, they treat me like a brother. We may joke about each other's ethnicity, but it is NEVER serious.

My Igbo brothers, these people like bluetooth do not represent the wider Yorubas.

There is a reason why Igbos like Fela and Wole Soyinka.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=715034.msg8734697#msg8734697 date=1310922166]That or their own country. In any case, I don't think the middle belt wants, needs, or even cares about the core north.[/quote]The people of the Middle Belt need to deal with their Pro-North leaders like David Mark. It seems like there is a divide between their political elite and average Middle Belter.

And I think this is an accurate map of Nigeria according to ethnicity.

https://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj4y3e7JWt1qcerqgo1_500.gif

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=715177.msg8734679#msg8734679 date=1310921958]please remove SW, EDO, BALYSEA, DELTA, rivers, cross river AND ALL MD BELT STATES from your rubbish thanks[/quote]I guess you did not read my post. This is an illustration of the fault lines within Nigeria.

[img]http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-46904-thumbflex-lgxr.jpg[/img]

DRlulu:
nairalnder yoruba warriors remind me of obasanjo and adekunle who dont speak for the yorubas  after all wole soyinka one of the most respected yoruba man and nigerian in the world was the voice of biafra in yorubaland. he took it as a tast to talk sense into obasanjo. should i mention fela and Gani , am begining to suspect these people that parade themselves as yorubas on nairaland are not yorubas.

You speak the truth. That is why I do not insult the group anymore, because I know my Yoruba friends do not talk like this. And we often have interesting discussions about Nigeria. They see Igbos as natural allies and have lived with them all their lives, so why the hostility on Nairaland? I was raised in the East, but I did not hear much about the Yorubas.

[img]http://2.bp..com/_QfVWU-2pVL4/S8cUSdzP5jI/AAAAAAAANe8/3xxfwFc_G7M/s640/nigeria_sharia_states.gif[/img]

[img]http://www.persecution.org/slaughter/files/2011/05/NorthernNigeria.jpg
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This map clearly illustrates the fault lines that can be found within Nigeria. This post has nothing to do with sectarianism, but we need to shine our eyes. How can a nation be one when one part of the nation practices Sharia Law, which is incompatible with those who do not follow the faith. If we are divided by laws, then what does that mean?

Another example of this can be found within the Sabon Garis of the North. We are suppose to be one Nigerian people, but to exclude people from living within a city, because they are not indigenous is a clear of how this nation is not one.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=714893.msg8734611#msg8734611 date=1310921317]you want a southern nigeria and yet on your signature u added "igboist" instead of "southern nigeria" and u expect yorubas and ijaws to love that

i dey laff ooo[/quote]I am an Igboist, and I am not ashamed. My people come first and I expect people from other groups to put their people first as well. Do you have a problem?

BIGER BOY:
i fail to understand the cheap political points those clamoring for divide think they make. BH attacks and kills mostly fellow notherners and the solution is divide the country? u guys are no less cowards than BH.

yes dividing the country may make 'sense' for other problems but stop using BH to advocate for your narrow minded needs. U either profer solutions on how to tackle the menace or keep shut.

Who do you think goes to these liquor establishments? Mostly people from the South who are not prohibited from drinking by their religion.

Boko Haram attacks are very specific because they are trying to "purify" the North of non-Islamic practices.

Nigeria is already a nation that is divided. When Sharia law was implemented in the North, that was a clear sign that the nation needs to split.

[img]http://2.bp..com/_QfVWU-2pVL4/S8cUSdzP5jI/AAAAAAAANe8/3xxfwFc_G7M/s640/nigeria_sharia_states.gif[/img]

I have come to the conclusion that the Yorubas on Nairaland do not represent the views of the average Yoruba. Yesterday, I was having a discussion about Nigeria at my cousin's graduation cookout and they shared the same views of the Igbos who were at the event. That Nigeria needs a split between North and South.

My Igbo brothers do not pay attention to these Yoruba posters. They do not represent the views of their brothers. I can see this clearly now.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=488326.msg8731875#msg8731875 date=1310871912]dude a lot have been said about AWOLOWO AND BELLO[/quote]Please show me where their contemporaries from other African nations have used such words to describe them?

As my black American friends say, EITHER PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=488326.msg8731876#msg8731876 date=1310872005]EzeUche, stop posting tribalist posts plz. It upsets me.[/quote]Please point to my tribalistic posts or forever hold you peace.

Ngwazi Dr. H. Kamuzu Banda
Founding President of Malawi

"Zik was one of the most practical, most pragmatic people that I knew during my political life. Whenever he was in London, I was always very, very happy to welcome him to my residence at 8 Aylestone Avenue, Brontesbury Park, for our group discussions about our individual and collective fight for independence and self rule. Zik would listen quietly as so-and-so said this-and-that and as arguments and discussions would stray from reality. When Zik finally spoke in his careful, measured and logical way, it would refocus our discussions to the more practical and achievable objectives.

I had great admiration for his intellect, his logic and most of all, his intense love for his Motherland, Nigeria."


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Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe was a true NATIONALIST. Not a tribalist like his contemporaries.