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SAMBARRY:
I enjoy their music..I listen to both Christian and non Christian music.yes I agree that their music can be vulgar but music is art speaking.art,poetry and the ability to marry both to give it a beautiful rhythm.most musicians sings about their sexual fantasies .flavor and olamide are good at that for example.it doesn't make them unfit.they're just expressing what is in their inner hearts which a regular person won't have the nerves to say out because of social inhibitions

So bc music is art, it doesn't matter if someone use it to corrupt others? If God says that he hates the prayer of a sinner who refuses to repent, what will he say about their praise? When the Israelites were worshiping God in sin, did God see them as fit to worship Him? No, God always demand for repentance from sinners. So don't justify musicians that worship God in sin. And for ur own gud, stop enjoying immoral musics.
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Matt 13:41-"The Son of Man will send his angels. They will gather everything in his kingdom that causes people to sin and everyone who does evil."... and they will be thrown into fire.
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You said they're just expressing what is in their inner hearts. But u fail to understand that sin starts from the heart and that God will also judge the intentions of the heart. What they sing shows that their hearts are evil, bc out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.
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Then to the second question,Jesus drove out merchants from the house of worship BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT THE GENUINE SHEEP TO BE DISTRACTED OR CARRIED AWAY WITH BUYING AND SELLING. Not that he's against it.he just doesn't want that to be their priority.that doesn't mean sinners cannot be welcomed to the house of worship.After All Jesus said a healthy person has no need for a doctor.in other words the hospital wasn't made for the healthy but the sick,in like manner,the house of worship wasn't made for sanctimonious,holier than thou men but for sinners both willing and unwilling to repent

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Jesus chased them out of the church bc he don't want his Father's house to become a den of thieves. Likewise he don't want his church to be a den of people who see nothing wrong with immoral musics. Having said that, u are right when u said the church was made for sinners, but also know that the church is also for holier than thou men because they too are sinners that may repent 2morrow.
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Church organizations is a place where undiluted word of God shud be preached, where popular sins like immoral musics, in descent dressing etc are to be exposed bare. But it look to me that in many church organisations, that is not the case.
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The church is not where sinners shud come and relax in their sin. If we keep deceiving ourselves with 'church is for sinners' stuff, those sinners will come and lure weak believers into sin. That excuse is just one of the places many sinners like to hide under. Sinners are welcome to the church, but we shud not encourage them to remain sinners by hiding their sins from them.
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1 Tim 5:20: But those who persist in sin should be rebuked in front of everyone, so that the others will stand in fear of sin.
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So if u are a christian, join hands with me to rebuke sin. I have not seen any sin that is so popular among many Christians as the sin of in descent dressing and entertainment industry.

asuustrike2009:
She is already passing judgment. There are many preachers preaching against this yet many still listen to such music. If they can't stop listening to such music is it her that would change them?. She should mind her business or better still preach to her followers to stop listening

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It is the holy spirit that changes people. So far as there is sin, preaching will continue whether they change or not. The bible tell us to preach in season and out of season. So we shud not be tired of it. If many did not listen to me, they may listen to you if u can speak up. Speak up and leave changing for the holy spirit.
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As for passing judgement, pls go back and read my comments on that. It is one of the greatest misconceptions among Christians.

safarigirl:
are you holy and perfect?

Perfection is not a human trait, even Jesus Christ had his moment of imperfection, so claiming that God requires perfection when even God realises that human beings cannot be perfect goes to show that you do not know a thing of what God requires. You are just another Nigerian Christian playing God's spokesperson.

Even the disciples of Christ were not perfect, I suppose they never made heaven going by your requirements

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Now things are getting interesting. Just open ur heart and I'll learn what those musicians will never teach u. Are my perfect? No. Should I relax in imperfection? God forbid bc Philippians 3:12 tells me to work towards perfection, to strive until I win the price. God also said: be perfect for I am perfect.
Matthew 5:48. Can I do it with my own power? Never. It is not by strength, rather by the power of the holy spirit. U can't achieve it by relying on sinful flesh.
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So despite the fact that u are not perfect, don't relax there and be dancing to the tune of these godless musicians. Rather accept Christ into ur live and strive to be perfect by the power of the holy spirit.
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When u repent, God change ur human nature and give u a spirit nature. It is spirit nature that will help u to say no to all forms of ungodliness. Self righteousness won't do that.

SnowJay92:
Can we rather talk about agriculture, I'm quite interested in that.

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OK, no problem, but this one is far more important bc in the last day all these physical things will be consume by fire. Salvatn is paramount. Don't rest until u find it.

asuustrike2009:
Probably you don't get it, she should have kept quiet. Am very sure she would have thousands of secular music in her phone yet she picked this one to blast. A born again Christian don't listen or have secular music with them especially the ones that doesn't edify the body of Christ. Yes we are in the world but we are not of the world.

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Kept quiet? Will God be happy with that? That u see people herding to hell and u keep quiet? As for her having thousands of secular musics in her phone is not for u to judge because u don't know her, neither do u know the kind of phone she uses. It is not gud to judge people like that.

SAMBARRY:
lol.nobody is defending sin but judging with arrogance and saying Someone is fit or unfit to worship God is uncalled for.this is what turns me off about self righteous people like you who thinks you're so saintly and EVERY other non churchy person a sinner.did God not change the corrupt tax collector who collected bribes,did God not change paul who was always harassing God's children,did God not change rehab who was a prostitute? did God not change Aaron who had self esteem issues?did God not change Moses who had anger issues?Smh

I just taya for una who just find it easy to label and judge others.smh

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I want to ask u this: Is rebuking sin the same as judging with arrogance? Just as apostle Paul said that a person who cannot control his own family is not fit to be a bishop, the lady is also saying that musicians that glorify Satan are not fit to glorify God without first of all repenting. You just misunderstood her.
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Have u ever warn people against such music? Do enjoy such musics?
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and don't forget what I wrote before:
And one assignment for u. Go and study
how Jesus dealt with repentant sinners and
how he dealt with unrepentant sinners. If u
can grasp that nobody will deceive u with
"Christ came for sinners and not for self
righteous people".

SnowJay92:
You thought I'd read this epistle? What makes you or that attention seeker of a lady more qualified to sing to God that flavour or phyno?

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Sorry, if u can't read the epistle then how can we communicate? What's the point if I read ur comments and u can't read mine, and yet u are still asking me s. But for ur own bud and safety, read it and think about it gravely. Musicians are ruining peoples life and nobody is talking about it. The few that are shud be encouraged, not persecuted. If I listened or watch such music's I won't be writing all these. I will rather be insulting the lady or ignoring.

safarigirl:
Flavour is not in the middle. Two gospel songs in his album doesn't make him a gospel artiste. You Christians are just very sensitive about little things

No be God give Flavour his success in music? So, make e no praise God again so that world people will be happy?

Beyonce has sang gospel, countleas Nigerian secular artistes have sang gospel, even Godwin is taken as gospel by many even if it's not.

Just appreciate the song and move on. Face the message, not the messenger, God has uses unholy vessels to pass his message various times

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So God gave him success for the purpose of leading millions to hell? If u die after watching their pornographic videos will u make heaven. Heaven is a place where sinful people will not see, talkless of entering. God demands for holiness, righteousness, perfection. U can't attain these qualities by listening to evil musicians who sing to glorify Satan. Deny or accept it, this is the truth - the unpopular truth.

Oxster:
Phyno and flavour are busy making their cool cash and you are here coaching who will sing?how to sing?and probably song that shouldn't be sang.....

Mtcheeew,,,But if de show up,you will be the first to pull panty off and throw them

I no won talk shaa

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U don't know her and u already know what she'd do it they show up. What an irony. That is exactly the kind of judgement the bible condemns. Judgements that have to do with identifying sins and warning people to repent from it is not what the bible condemns.
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Like I said b4, many people may think they worship God but in truth, it is money, fame, celebrities etc that they worship. So BC godless musicians are making money she shud overlook their evil ways and hail them like every one else?
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Remember how Satan promised to give Christ the kingdom of the world and everything in it - only if he will bow down and worship him. That is exactly what Satan is doing today. Satan is telling musicians to sing evil stuffs and they'll get wealth and they're doing exactly that. They are worshipping Satan as they sing. And you're probably tagging along. #RepentFromEvilSinging.

SAMBARRY:
God didn't come for SELF righteous people like you but what the bible refers to as social rejects e.g the prostitutes,touts and other low lives,Mr perfect and Mr holy

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Another misconception here. Did Jesus came so that sinners will remain in their sin? If he came for sinners to repent, why are u defending evil? If u luv ur celebrity, why not tell them the truth about their lifestyle?
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Are u aware that there is a second coming where Christ will be a ruthless judge? Why do u relax when grace is here to deliver u?
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And one assignment for u. Go and study how Jesus dealt with repentant sinners and how he dealt with unrepentant sinners. If u can grasp that nobody will deceive u with "Christ came for sinners and not for self righteous people".

Firstcitizen:
Only one quote from Jesus for your type

"where are your accusers now?"

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Another misconception about the bible. One question for you. Was the woman a repentant sinner or an unrepentant sinner? Did she accept in her heart that she'd sinned? Now compare the answer with godless musicians and urself.
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And pls, are u trying to defend all the immorality emanating from our musicians? Women dancing half naked, men smoking, kids watching and learning. What kind of Christianity are u practicing?

asuustrike2009:
She is not far from the truth but she should learn to mind her business. A born again Christian wouldn't dare to even listen or play such songs in the first place. Everybodi go answer heh papa name

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jacyhelen:
she said the truth
But she has ears to listen to their music and watch their vidoes
#Hypocrites..
This is why am hating xtanity,it houses #Hypocrites..

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So if she live in a street where barbers and beer parlors blasts away such music, she shud shut her ears. Or if she's watching a gud TV program and there was an interference with such music she shud pluck out her eyes? When it comes to immoral sight, the problem is not that u saw. The problem is if u desire to continue seeing. U don't have enof info to judge her like that. And Christianity is the best religion u can practice if u luv the truth. But unfortunately, many peoole finds truth to be too bitter. But if u can endure and accept it u'll soon find it sweeter than sin.

SnowJay92:
Thou shalt not judge, but this one thinks she's at the right hand of the father already.

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What does "You shall not judge" mean?
by Matt Slick

Jesus said in Matthew 7:1 , "Do not judge so that
you will not be judged." Many unbelievers quote
this verse when Christians say that
homosexuality is a sin, or that adultery is wrong,
or tell someone that a person might not be a
Christian if, for example, he denies the
resurrection of Christ ( 1 Cor. 15:14 ). But what do
Jesus' words actually mean? Is He saying that
we can't say anyone is wrong about anything or
that someone is not a Christian or that a person
is in sin? Considering that the Bible has many
verses condemning sinful behavior, we have to
consider Jesus' words more carefully. Before we
do that, take a look at these verses that show it
is okay to make spiritual judgments.
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1 Corinthians 2:15 , "But he who is spiritual
appraises all things, yet he himself is
appraised by no one."
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Galatians 5:19-21 , "Now the deeds of the flesh
are evident, which are: immorality, impurity,
sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife,
jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes,
dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness,
carousing, and things like these, of which I
forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you,
that those who practice such things will not
inherit the kingdom of God."
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In 1 Cor. 2:15 the word "appraises" is ἀνακρίνω,
anakrino . It means, "This word means 'to
investigate,' and is used of judicial investigation,
especially prior to the hearing proper." 1 The verse
immediately preceding it says, "But a natural man
does not accept the things of the Spirit of God,
for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot
understand them, because they are spiritually
appraised," ( 1 Cor. 2:14 ). So, spiritual things can
be judged by Christians.
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We see this when Paul talks about various sins in
Galatians 5: 19-21 and makes a judgment that
those who practice these things will not be
saved. He says something very similar in 1
Corinthians 6: 9-10 . Also, consider the following
quote.
" . . . realizing the fact that law is not made for a
righteous person, but for those who are lawless
and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the
unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers
or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men
and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and
perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound
teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of
the blessed God, with which I have been
entrusted," ( 1 Tim. 1:9-11 ).
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Since the Bible does not contradict itself, what's
going on? It would seem that Jesus is talking
about rash unwarranted judgments, not those
judgments that are of sound consideration. This
makes sense when we see what judgments Jesus
made on people.
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Matt. 7:5 , "You hypocrite, first take the log out
of your own eye, and then you will see clearly
to take the speck out of your brother’s eye."
Matt. 23:33 , "You serpents, you brood of
vipers, how shall you escape the sentence of
hell?"
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Luke 11:40 , "You foolish ones, did not He who
made the outside make the inside also?"
John 8:44 , "You are of your father the devil,
and you want to do the desires of your father .
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John 8:55 , "and you have not come to know
Him, but I know Him; and if I say that I do not
know Him, I shall be a liar like you, but I do
know Him, and keep His word."
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So, Jesus would not be contradicting Himself. He
made spiritual judgments as did Paul the Apostle.
But when we make judgments, they need to be
according to Scripture and not arbitrary
judgments. Here are some commentaries on Matt.
7:1 .
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"The context makes it clear that the thing here
condemned is that disposition to look
unfavorably on the character and actions of
others, which leads invariably to the
pronouncing of rash, unjust, and unlovely
judgments upon them." 2
"1–5 warn against criticizing other people
without considering how open to criticism we
ourselves may be; be judged may well refer to
God’s judgment, as well as that of other
people. But v 6 indicates that there is also a
right kind of judgment which the disciple is
called on to exercise (cf. also vs 15–20)." 3
"Jesus did not prohibit judging of any sort, as
verse 6 makes clear. Rather, He warned
against judging others in way that we would
not want applied to ourselves. To judge
another person in a harsh spirit is to take on a
role reserved only for God. Only the Lord can
see beyond the outward appearance to
underlying motives and causes in a person’s
heart." 4
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https://carm.org/what-does-you-shall-not-judge-mean

Firstcitizen:
The funny thing is Phyno might make heaven and this little tw.at aka God's appointed judge of man will not make it.

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Phyno might make heaven - "might", but not "will make heaven". Is that all u can say here? What about all those Phyno will lead to hell, u don't care about them? Is it BC of fame and money. Many Christians think they worship God, but they actually worship the idol of fame, money, celebrities etc. When u turn down the bible and choose to follow what celebrities tell u, what do u think is ur god?
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Let's call a spade a spade, the entertaient industry is ruining the morality of our society. Pls if u are having problem with the "thou shall not judge" passage of the bible, read this and you'll see that the lady is right!
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"Thou shall not judge" What does it really mean?
One of the most misquoted part of the bible is
"Thou shall not judge". Have you ever pointed out
something wrong somebody is doing & he tells
you, "Don't judge"? It is very common.
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There are judgement God allow us to make and
there are those He doesnt allow us to make.
First, what is judgement? Judgement is the ability
to make sensible decisions after carefully
considering the best thing to do.
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Going by this decision, you'll see that you judge
people everyday.
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1. Why are you against the Gay Bill? You judged
that it is wrong.
2. Why wont you kill your mother? Bc your
judgement tells you it is wrong.
3. Christ said we shud tell people to repent from
their sin - That is judgement.
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So guys, we judge people everyday and God
allows this form of judgement. The judgement
God is against is when we judge with respect to
someone's eternal state. Eg If I say that Flavor
will go to hell, God will be angry with me. I cant
say that.
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"Do not judge by appearances, but JUDGE with
righteous judgement" - John 7:24
This passage confirms all I have said. We shud nt
judge by appearance, but should make a righteous
judgement.
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So next time somebody walk up to you and
pointed out your sin, repent from that sin
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Pls Christians on Nairaland, let's join hands and wage war against the entertainment industry. Let us tell people the evil it represent so that those that have ears will hear.

IForgotMyLoginD:
And on what authority is she speaking? As God’s PA or secretary? Mchewwww.

Anybody is free to praise the Creator.

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If u are truely a born again christian, don't u know that u are an ambassador of Christ on earth? Don't u know that he gave u the power to take captive any thought that exalt itself above Christ? Don't u know u are a watchman over sinners? Christ require that u warn sinners to repent and live a holy and righteous live, BC when Christ finally comes, only those whose garments are spotless will go with him.
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These musicians are spreading immorality and all u can do is to attack anyone who is courageous enuf to confront them. It's not fair and God will not be happy with u if u don't repent. Redeem the time for the days are evil - and that's exactly what the lady is trying to do. Let's encourage her.

Threebear:
Very foolish lady ,so God is your personal property?
Who are you to dictate those who sing for him and those who don't?
That's how people will be behaving foolishly.
In His eyes, everyone is a sinner and everyone is worthy of redemption. He even said in the Bible that if humans stopped praising him, he would turn stones to mouth and they will sing for him. This useless stupid fool, might even be worse than the people she's condemning.

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U don't even know her and I've condemned her already. haven't u come across the part of the bible that says "let those that mention the name of God depart from iniquity?" How can a person sing in support of sexual immorality, cultism, wanton immorality and the next moment he's praising God for giving him money - money he'll use to serve Satan. Do u know how many youths are being mislead and ruined by these musicians? Just look around u and tell me the result itself. The young lady is on point. And she's saying what many churches can't say.

It is topics like this that shud be popular in church teachings.

This is quite an interesting concept oo. But it will surely be abused without proper monitoring. If u help SB, try to know how he's spending the money else...
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If freeze is a gud christian as he claims, he shud also get ready to speak against the entertainment industry - music, movies, fashion etc. The wave of sexual immorality sweeping thru Nigeria is fueled by our entertainment industry, just like it has happened in countries like US. It is a matter of time before homo and lesbi will come out to fight for their right. Worse of all, many church organizationa are keeping quite on this critical issue. Ladies can now wear mini skirt to church. Church leaders will see it and keep quite. If Freeze can do this one, I'll rate him better than most pastors.

aariwa:
Okay my brother. Remain blessed

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op where did u copy this from. Because I know this applies mainly to large scale farmers oversea.

Op, how was the fishing?

aariwa:
my brother have you seen it?i have sent it directly to your box now.its not my fault.I tire for this nairaland pm thing

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Thanks very much. I finally found land in Awkuzu. I'm partnering with another nairalander.

baggiosne:
all the birds are looking fine n healthy, ready to go by festival period, thanks for your concern

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That's nice to hear.

See My Day Old Chick Screening Result for a sample vaccine plan. You may also take ur chicks to the test.

baggiosne:
i had issue of pox before, but av been treated accordingly, and all of them were able to survive the storm, talk of respiratory issue,i av purchased another drug that ll do justice to dat, and I ll report back to the house after the treatment,

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Any update?

I once tried watermelon and it started fruiting during the 24h rainy period. Diseases wiped it off. I didn't know much about fungicides then. Op try to use fungicides oo. Powdery mildew is a dry season disease.

valentineuwakwe:
u funny jare...abeg those wey no co-habitate, you know how many company dem get or don open?.....must you own company before you become successful....

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One mistake people make is believing that if u do evil u won't succeed in life and if u do gud u' ll make wealth. Musicians like davido, wizkid etc are wealthy 2day and may remain so for a very long time. This is despite the fact that their sexually immoral songs are wrecking havoc in the spiritual life of youth.
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on the other hand there are other not-so-successful people that are advancing God's kingdom.
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So ur financial statue is not what determines ur standing with God. Christ said "Watch out! Guard
yourselves against every form of greed, for a
man's life does not consist in the abundance of
his possessions." lk 12:15.

Nice post op. But I'll advice that when u see bad thing, boldly say it's bad. nobody will beat u. The fact here is that cohabiting is immoral and only atheists and fake Christians will say otherwise. The level of moral decay in this country is really surprising. what will happen when rapture finally take place? Many comments here just tire me. people can no longer differentiate good and bad.

bahaushe1:
What does Jesus (pbuh) mean by the day and hour of these events are not known? Does that mean he is not the one controlling them? How can lord not know about these events?

Only God knows.

sharpwriter:
Where did yu see in the scriptures that those that did not meet the rapture will pay with their blood? Prove with scriptures please.

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Rev 20:4

They don't look like cockerel to me.

realmindz:
Allahu wakbar.


imagine a world without religion.

imagine the world sharing one love because there is no religion to divide us.

Imagine people thinking righteously applying their brain to do what is right...That is righteousness.


imagine a world free from the concept of holiness, holiness is doing what you have been told by your religion whether it is right or not, whether it is logical or not....because you believe some eyes are watching you and you shall be rewarded or punished.
Holiness is to hypocrites as righteousness is to human..

in the beginning was the world and the world knew no religion and there was peace on earth.

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I really sorry for u oo. Take out religion and something else will fill the space. Take out christianity and watch as evil will overtake the world. I u want to experience it, don't repent, wait until the rapture takes place and 666 comes out fully, then u will know the true meaning of human nature. Since u refuse the saving death of Christ, u will have to use ur own blood and save yourself. Don't think u can handle humans with that ur ideology.