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SAMBARRY:. Do they sing to correct the sins people practice everyday or they sing to promote it? It is money worship bc they know that if they tell people to repent they won't make much money bc that's not what people want to hear. So they support evil to make money, to become brand ambassadors of big companies etc. Whenever u ignore God's wd for sth else, that thing becomes our ruler and god. |
Firstcitizen:.. Zacheaus was a repentant sinner. Compare his treatment to the way Jesus treated the scribes and the pharisees. At a point Jesus compared them to beautified grave yard. He used harsh wds against them. wds like "woe unto you". . So don't twist the bible to support musicians that are active for Satan. If u can make this statement, I believe u will also condemn Jude for saying this: . Jude 1:4- For certain men have crept in among you unnoticed--ungodly ones who were designated long ago for condemnation. They turn the grace of our God into a license for immorality, and they deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. . It is very wrong to concentrate on one part of the bible and ignore others. GOD STILL DEMANDS FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS FROM SINNERS. Immoral musics will lead u to hell. |
Jude 1:4- For certain men have crept in among you unnoticed--ungodly ones who were designated long ago for condemnation. They turn the grace of our God into a license for immorality, and they deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. . And remember wot Jesus said- not all that call me father father will enter my kingdom. One of the worse thing sb can do against himself is to lie to himself. If u get use to that habit ur name is sorry. |
SAMBARRY:. There is no evidence that show that u're born again. It is not just for mouth. You encourage people to watch half naked men and women engaging in shameful acts, and u're here claiming born again. I'll take this as a joke, but it can be a very costly one if u don't repent. U can't do that in the grave, so use ur life now to serve God and be His ambassador. . Read the bible well to see what Jesus demands of his children. His children no longer live according to the flesh, but according to the spirit. |
SAMBARRY:. Money worship sighted again. The bible is clearly against sexual immorality and so a christian cant make it a bizness. . Jesus said that if u lk at a woman with lust, u have already co.mited adultery with her in ur heart. Musics like that will only cause lusts and other forms of immorality in people. . If Satan offer u that kind of money as a means to wealth, don't take it. He offered a similar thing to Christ and Christ rejected. If God cannot give u money, better remain poor. . U may not rob anyone to make money, but consider the spiritual implication of ur bizness. If u don't gather souls with Christ, u scatter and u're of the devil. It's that simple. |
I remember passages of the bible where God was complaining bitter about the Israelites. They worship him with their mouth but their hearts are far away from him. They offer him expensive sacrifices but they still wallow in sin. So God rejected their sacrifice and begged and warned them tog repent. . Celebrities may be doing wonderful things with their money, but I tell u that so far as God is concern, repentance is what he wants. You know why? One of the reason is that by giving arms, these celebrities are propagating the 'gospel' of Satan. More and more people will like and follow their evil ways. I know how they've been destroying the lives of people, mainly youths. . In light of all these, why shud people that call themselves Christians come out and be attacking a lady that's saying the truth? Go to nairaland posts on baby mamas, slay mamas, slay queens etc and see how Christians are glorifying evil as if it is nothing. . Again, I encourage every christians to repent truely and beware of Christianized sins, including those sins some churches can no longer preach against. |
SAMBARRY:. U cannot buy salvation with money. One problem with Nigerians is the love of money. whether u get it thru prostitution, porn musics, robbery etc, people will hail u. . After making all those donations with money they get from glorifying satanic agenda, they will perish if they fail to repent. A poor man that is born again may only be able to help 5 people financially, but in God's sight, he is far better than ur davido, wizkid, Oprah join together. Why, bc that poor man is helping 1000s spiritually. Like I said b4, people shud stop worshiping money, fame, celebrities etc. God hates immorality and he wants u to repent. That is His earnest desire for mankind. . What u said here is just like the case of a money ritualist who kill people and then support the church massively with his money. Musicians, actors and the likes are making money by killing people spiritually. Their songs/movies don't build u up in Christ, they destroy u. |
SAMBARRY:. Was David worshiping God in sin? Again I remind you what the bible says: Let everyone that name the name of Christ depart from iniquity. If u study how Satan normally quote the bible, I'll find out that he quote in such a way that people will relax in their sin or fall into sin. Stop giving people the same impression with your quotations. |
Firstcitizen:The topic here is sexual immotallity so why shud I deviate? How many needy people have I helped 2day? It depends on what u regard as needy BC if u look at it in light of the topic, sinners are needy and I'm helping them while you all fight against me. moneywise I give according to my capacity and will continue to do so in conjunction with exposing the lies of Christianized sins. . What do u think is the core value of Christ teaching? For people to worship God in sin? Tell itself the truth and call a spade a spade. No matter how much u like these musicians, their songs will only lead u to hell if u fail to repent. |
IForgotMyLoginD:. Let those who mention the name of Christ depart from iniquity. It is dangerous to praise God in sin. You'll end up getting use to God and Christianizing ur sins. If u really preach to people about repentance, add immoral musics/videos, in descent dressing and other Christianized sins to ur arsenal, then I'll know that u're serious. . If u don't read the epistles, then this argument will do u no good bc I'll keep asking questions I've clearly answered. |
SAMBARRY:. For those interested to know, this is another type of judgement God hates. Look at what someone who doesn't know me is accusing me of. I still insist that u repent and give ur life to Christ. |
SAMBARRY:. You are like one of the so many people I have encountered that believe that a youth not engaging in premarital sex is impossible. But may I announce to u that with the holy spirit it is 100% possible and I'm a witness. If u are into such now is the time to repent bc procrastination can be deadly. As for replies to ur other points, read my previous comments. There is a second coming. There is a judgement day. |
IForgotMyLoginD:So the question now is, are those musicians for us Christians? Are they with us? Does their music make us more holy or righteous? Pls tell me, how can women dancing half naked make you holy? How can immoral statements make u holy? They are not for us because they scatters. They lead millions to sin. Matt 12:30: Whoever is not with me is against me; whoever does not gather with me truly is scattering. Preaching the Gospel is different from TELLING whosoever you count as sinner that THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO GLORIFY THE GOD THAT CREATED THEM.You can tell that to apostle Paul when he said that a man that can't control his own family shud not be a bishop. If u must glorify God, depart from iniquity. 2 Tim 2:19: Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal: “The Lord knoweth those who are His,” and, “Let every one who nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” The prayer of a sinner is an abomination to God. God always demand for repentance from sinners. Stop giving them false hope. . So pls next time before you reply my mention, read the Bible deeply and ask the Holy Spirit for wisdom.. If you still don't get it after all these I've written, I wonder when you'll get it. . Jude 1:4: For certain men have crept in among you unnoticed--ungodly ones who were designated long ago for condemnation. They turn the grace of our God into a license for immorality, and they deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. . Eph 5:3. 3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person —such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. [ a] 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7 Therefore do not be partners with them. |
Oxster:. Welcome. |
Firstcitizen:No, if people are taking Christianity less serious, it is because the bible end time prophesy is gradually coming to pass. It is bc people now hate the truth. They want to live their live according to sinful human nature. That is why so many people here are defending people who sing and promote evil. Quote the verse that shows the woman was repentant.Wasn't she? At least Jesus expected repentance. But you are here defending and encouraging sinners. Another quote from Jesus " remove the log from your eyes before removing the speck from the eyes of another". Yet another misconception. That passage would have applied to me if I enjoy such music and I came here forming as if I hated it so much. Pls read matt 7:1-6 and you'll understand that Jesus was talking to hypocrites. Vs 1 also spoke about judge not, that we shud not judge hypocritically or judge like God. On the other hand, other passages told us which kind of judgement to pass: . John 7:24: Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” . 1 Corinthians 5:1-13: It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans, for a man has his father's wife. And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you. For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, [b]I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing. [/b]When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord. ... . So First citizen, it is better for u to join the race and rebuke evil that have so become popular that men of God now seem afraid to talk about them. Any sinner who read your comments so far without reading mind will be encourage in his evil. |
SAMBARRY:So bc music is art, it doesn't matter if someone use it to corrupt others? If God says that he hates the prayer of a sinner who refuses to repent, what will he say about their praise? When the Israelites were worshiping God in sin, did God see them as fit to worship Him? No, God always demand for repentance from sinners. So don't justify musicians that worship God in sin. And for ur own gud, stop enjoying immoral musics. . Matt 13:41-"The Son of Man will send his angels. They will gather everything in his kingdom that causes people to sin and everyone who does evil."... and they will be thrown into fire. . You said they're just expressing what is in their inner hearts. But u fail to understand that sin starts from the heart and that God will also judge the intentions of the heart. What they sing shows that their hearts are evil, bc out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. . Then to the second question,Jesus drove out merchants from the house of worship BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT THE GENUINE SHEEP TO BE DISTRACTED OR CARRIED AWAY WITH BUYING AND SELLING. Not that he's against it.he just doesn't want that to be their priority.that doesn't mean sinners cannot be welcomed to the house of worship.After All Jesus said a healthy person has no need for a doctor.in other words the hospital wasn't made for the healthy but the sick,in like manner,the house of worship wasn't made for sanctimonious,holier than thou men but for sinners both willing and unwilling to repent. Jesus chased them out of the church bc he don't want his Father's house to become a den of thieves. Likewise he don't want his church to be a den of people who see nothing wrong with immoral musics. Having said that, u are right when u said the church was made for sinners, but also know that the church is also for holier than thou men because they too are sinners that may repent 2morrow. . Church organizations is a place where undiluted word of God shud be preached, where popular sins like immoral musics, in descent dressing etc are to be exposed bare. But it look to me that in many church organisations, that is not the case. . The church is not where sinners shud come and relax in their sin. If we keep deceiving ourselves with 'church is for sinners' stuff, those sinners will come and lure weak believers into sin. That excuse is just one of the places many sinners like to hide under. Sinners are welcome to the church, but we shud not encourage them to remain sinners by hiding their sins from them. . 1 Tim 5:20: But those who persist in sin should be rebuked in front of everyone, so that the others will stand in fear of sin. . So if u are a christian, join hands with me to rebuke sin. I have not seen any sin that is so popular among many Christians as the sin of in descent dressing and entertainment industry. |
asuustrike2009:. It is the holy spirit that changes people. So far as there is sin, preaching will continue whether they change or not. The bible tell us to preach in season and out of season. So we shud not be tired of it. If many did not listen to me, they may listen to you if u can speak up. Speak up and leave changing for the holy spirit. . As for passing judgement, pls go back and read my comments on that. It is one of the greatest misconceptions among Christians. |
safarigirl:.. Now things are getting interesting. Just open ur heart and I'll learn what those musicians will never teach u. Are my perfect? No. Should I relax in imperfection? God forbid bc Philippians 3:12 tells me to work towards perfection, to strive until I win the price. God also said: be perfect for I am perfect. Matthew 5:48. Can I do it with my own power? Never. It is not by strength, rather by the power of the holy spirit. U can't achieve it by relying on sinful flesh. . So despite the fact that u are not perfect, don't relax there and be dancing to the tune of these godless musicians. Rather accept Christ into ur live and strive to be perfect by the power of the holy spirit. .. When u repent, God change ur human nature and give u a spirit nature. It is spirit nature that will help u to say no to all forms of ungodliness. Self righteousness won't do that. |
SnowJay92:.. OK, no problem, but this one is far more important bc in the last day all these physical things will be consume by fire. Salvatn is paramount. Don't rest until u find it. |
asuustrike2009:. Kept quiet? Will God be happy with that? That u see people herding to hell and u keep quiet? As for her having thousands of secular musics in her phone is not for u to judge because u don't know her, neither do u know the kind of phone she uses. It is not gud to judge people like that. |
SAMBARRY:. I want to ask u this: Is rebuking sin the same as judging with arrogance? Just as apostle Paul said that a person who cannot control his own family is not fit to be a bishop, the lady is also saying that musicians that glorify Satan are not fit to glorify God without first of all repenting. You just misunderstood her. . Have u ever warn people against such music? Do enjoy such musics? . and don't forget what I wrote before: And one assignment for u. Go and study how Jesus dealt with repentant sinners and how he dealt with unrepentant sinners. If u can grasp that nobody will deceive u with "Christ came for sinners and not for self righteous people". |
SnowJay92:.. Sorry, if u can't read the epistle then how can we communicate? What's the point if I read ur comments and u can't read mine, and yet u are still asking me s. But for ur own bud and safety, read it and think about it gravely. Musicians are ruining peoples life and nobody is talking about it. The few that are shud be encouraged, not persecuted. If I listened or watch such music's I won't be writing all these. I will rather be insulting the lady or ignoring. |
safarigirl:. So God gave him success for the purpose of leading millions to hell? If u die after watching their pornographic videos will u make heaven. Heaven is a place where sinful people will not see, talkless of entering. God demands for holiness, righteousness, perfection. U can't attain these qualities by listening to evil musicians who sing to glorify Satan. Deny or accept it, this is the truth - the unpopular truth. |
Oxster:. U don't know her and u already know what she'd do it they show up. What an irony. That is exactly the kind of judgement the bible condemns. Judgements that have to do with identifying sins and warning people to repent from it is not what the bible condemns. . Like I said b4, many people may think they worship God but in truth, it is money, fame, celebrities etc that they worship. So BC godless musicians are making money she shud overlook their evil ways and hail them like every one else? . Remember how Satan promised to give Christ the kingdom of the world and everything in it - only if he will bow down and worship him. That is exactly what Satan is doing today. Satan is telling musicians to sing evil stuffs and they'll get wealth and they're doing exactly that. They are worshipping Satan as they sing. And you're probably tagging along. #RepentFromEvilSinging. |
SAMBARRY:. Another misconception here. Did Jesus came so that sinners will remain in their sin? If he came for sinners to repent, why are u defending evil? If u luv ur celebrity, why not tell them the truth about their lifestyle? . Are u aware that there is a second coming where Christ will be a ruthless judge? Why do u relax when grace is here to deliver u? . And one assignment for u. Go and study how Jesus dealt with repentant sinners and how he dealt with unrepentant sinners. If u can grasp that nobody will deceive u with "Christ came for sinners and not for self righteous people". |
Firstcitizen:.. Another misconception about the bible. One question for you. Was the woman a repentant sinner or an unrepentant sinner? Did she accept in her heart that she'd sinned? Now compare the answer with godless musicians and urself. . And pls, are u trying to defend all the immorality emanating from our musicians? Women dancing half naked, men smoking, kids watching and learning. What kind of Christianity are u practicing? |
asuustrike2009:. jacyhelen:.. So if she live in a street where barbers and beer parlors blasts away such music, she shud shut her ears. Or if she's watching a gud TV program and there was an interference with such music she shud pluck out her eyes? When it comes to immoral sight, the problem is not that u saw. The problem is if u desire to continue seeing. U don't have enof info to judge her like that. And Christianity is the best religion u can practice if u luv the truth. But unfortunately, many peoole finds truth to be too bitter. But if u can endure and accept it u'll soon find it sweeter than sin. |
SnowJay92:. What does "You shall not judge" mean? by Matt Slick Jesus said in Matthew 7:1 , "Do not judge so that you will not be judged." Many unbelievers quote this verse when Christians say that homosexuality is a sin, or that adultery is wrong, or tell someone that a person might not be a Christian if, for example, he denies the resurrection of Christ ( 1 Cor. 15:14 ). But what do Jesus' words actually mean? Is He saying that we can't say anyone is wrong about anything or that someone is not a Christian or that a person is in sin? Considering that the Bible has many verses condemning sinful behavior, we have to consider Jesus' words more carefully. Before we do that, take a look at these verses that show it is okay to make spiritual judgments. . 1 Corinthians 2:15 , "But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one." . Galatians 5:19-21 , "Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God." . In 1 Cor. 2:15 the word "appraises" is ἀνακρίνω, anakrino . It means, "This word means 'to investigate,' and is used of judicial investigation, especially prior to the hearing proper." 1 The verse immediately preceding it says, "But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised," ( 1 Cor. 2:14 ). So, spiritual things can be judged by Christians. . We see this when Paul talks about various sins in Galatians 5: 19-21 and makes a judgment that those who practice these things will not be saved. He says something very similar in 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 . Also, consider the following quote. " . . . realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted," ( 1 Tim. 1:9-11 ). . Since the Bible does not contradict itself, what's going on? It would seem that Jesus is talking about rash unwarranted judgments, not those judgments that are of sound consideration. This makes sense when we see what judgments Jesus made on people. . Matt. 7:5 , "You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye." Matt. 23:33 , "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how shall you escape the sentence of hell?" . Luke 11:40 , "You foolish ones, did not He who made the outside make the inside also?" John 8:44 , "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father . . . " . John 8:55 , "and you have not come to know Him, but I know Him; and if I say that I do not know Him, I shall be a liar like you, but I do know Him, and keep His word." . So, Jesus would not be contradicting Himself. He made spiritual judgments as did Paul the Apostle. But when we make judgments, they need to be according to Scripture and not arbitrary judgments. Here are some commentaries on Matt. 7:1 . . "The context makes it clear that the thing here condemned is that disposition to look unfavorably on the character and actions of others, which leads invariably to the pronouncing of rash, unjust, and unlovely judgments upon them." 2 "1–5 warn against criticizing other people without considering how open to criticism we ourselves may be; be judged may well refer to God’s judgment, as well as that of other people. But v 6 indicates that there is also a right kind of judgment which the disciple is called on to exercise (cf. also vs 15–20)." 3 "Jesus did not prohibit judging of any sort, as verse 6 makes clear. Rather, He warned against judging others in way that we would not want applied to ourselves. To judge another person in a harsh spirit is to take on a role reserved only for God. Only the Lord can see beyond the outward appearance to underlying motives and causes in a person’s heart." 4 . https://carm.org/what-does-you-shall-not-judge-mean |
Firstcitizen:.. Phyno might make heaven - "might", but not "will make heaven". Is that all u can say here? What about all those Phyno will lead to hell, u don't care about them? Is it BC of fame and money. Many Christians think they worship God, but they actually worship the idol of fame, money, celebrities etc. When u turn down the bible and choose to follow what celebrities tell u, what do u think is ur god? . Let's call a spade a spade, the entertaient industry is ruining the morality of our society. Pls if u are having problem with the "thou shall not judge" passage of the bible, read this and you'll see that the lady is right! . "Thou shall not judge" What does it really mean? One of the most misquoted part of the bible is "Thou shall not judge". Have you ever pointed out something wrong somebody is doing & he tells you, "Don't judge"? It is very common. . There are judgement God allow us to make and there are those He doesnt allow us to make. First, what is judgement? Judgement is the ability to make sensible decisions after carefully considering the best thing to do. . Going by this decision, you'll see that you judge people everyday. . 1. Why are you against the Gay Bill? You judged that it is wrong. 2. Why wont you kill your mother? Bc your judgement tells you it is wrong. 3. Christ said we shud tell people to repent from their sin - That is judgement. . So guys, we judge people everyday and God allows this form of judgement. The judgement God is against is when we judge with respect to someone's eternal state. Eg If I say that Flavor will go to hell, God will be angry with me. I cant say that. . "Do not judge by appearances, but JUDGE with righteous judgement" - John 7:24 This passage confirms all I have said. We shud nt judge by appearance, but should make a righteous judgement. . So next time somebody walk up to you and pointed out your sin, repent from that sin . Pls Christians on Nairaland, let's join hands and wage war against the entertainment industry. Let us tell people the evil it represent so that those that have ears will hear. |
IForgotMyLoginD:. If u are truely a born again christian, don't u know that u are an ambassador of Christ on earth? Don't u know that he gave u the power to take captive any thought that exalt itself above Christ? Don't u know u are a watchman over sinners? Christ require that u warn sinners to repent and live a holy and righteous live, BC when Christ finally comes, only those whose garments are spotless will go with him. . These musicians are spreading immorality and all u can do is to attack anyone who is courageous enuf to confront them. It's not fair and God will not be happy with u if u don't repent. Redeem the time for the days are evil - and that's exactly what the lady is trying to do. Let's encourage her. |
Threebear:. U don't even know her and I've condemned her already. haven't u come across the part of the bible that says "let those that mention the name of God depart from iniquity?" How can a person sing in support of sexual immorality, cultism, wanton immorality and the next moment he's praising God for giving him money - money he'll use to serve Satan. Do u know how many youths are being mislead and ruined by these musicians? Just look around u and tell me the result itself. The young lady is on point. And she's saying what many churches can't say. |
It is topics like this that shud be popular in church teachings. |
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s. But for ur own bud and safety, read it and think about it gravely. Musicians are ruining peoples life and nobody is talking about it. The few that are shud be encouraged, not persecuted. If I listened or watch such music's I won't be writing all these. I will rather be insulting the lady or ignoring.