Owliver:
I trade at least daily tf. head and shoulder pattern so my stop loss must always be above the head.

you still think at least 100pips is too much?

for long-term trades,100pips stop is okay. it all depends on the risk reward ratio. risking 100 pip and aiming for 200 pips consistently is a very good method of trading. there certainly pattern formation that have lower stops even at higher time frame. day trading and using 100 pips stop loss is crazy

jorel1:
its nice if you don't laugh, and why do you think 100 pips is wide? this is a relative term...someone here always say the market doesn't belong to your papa , let experience be your best teacher .In that case everyone has different teachers..
e.g when you say trade goes 65 pips and back you can never lose on the trade again, its laughable for some..i think the market is more like a jungle and every participant employs different strategies to survive in it....

true talk, experience is the best teacher, not laughing a you per per say but what people are doing general on the thread, quoted you because it's was an example that can easily be avoided, the forex market is a tough one, only the die hard survive for long periods

Owliver:
Uchef trade went from +65 to -40.

but I'll still keep it.

SL is 100 pips

I have been reading post here, I just laugh.you guys take a lot of risk.personally any trade in up by 65 pips I can never loss on that trade again, that where trade management comes in. when you up with that number of pips simply bring your stop loss to your entry price soo that if price turns against you you will not loss, preserve the capital for the next trade.I keep seeing things like a 100pips stop loss , if I may ask what is the risk reward ratio with that wide stops. in forex market it's difficult to win even 70% of the time, with that type of stop loss 30% loss only can cause a lot of harm if you have a poor risk to reward ratio

very good news

ThunderingHooves:
If i were to begin commercial milk production,at whatever scale, what would the uptake be like? That is to say, can i be assured that Nigerians would provide a steady market for milk and milk products.

Does milk consumption vary by region?

Te reason i ask this is i read a news report that Shonga farms run by the oyibo farmers from Zimbabwe were forced to pour out excess production by their cows.

Nigerians general do know what fresh milk is,most are use to powered milk. yogurt, traditional nono done by fulani.if you really what to sell fresh milk in Nigeria think of ideas like fresh milk Despenser(milk ATM) in established shopping malls in Lagos or Abuja or .people going to such palaces are mostly likely to try new things. processing fresh milk into yogurt is what most dairy farms do in Nigeria.

the most you can get from a local cow, eg Sokoto gudali is 5 litres. but the average still remains BTW 1 and 2 per cow

GOM2016:
Good day great people in the house, did anybody have contact of veterinarian that can handle IVF (IN VITRO FERTILIZATION) and ET (EMBRYO TRANSFER) perfectly. Urgent response will be appreciated.

the technology does not exist in Nigeria yet, even where is exist in the world it still very expensive there, in Africa I know it's done in Kenya for exotic high yielding cows

Profgordons:


That will be great, thanks. I sent an email to your gmail earlier, it should be easy for you to identify.

Thank you.

please sent another email, I get a lot of emails, yours will be hiding somewhere, I will forward his number and name to you, you can ask him any question regarding AI

Profgordons:



Many Thanks Bro, I've been there before. I think I'll have to meet someone else the next time I visit.. Their staffs' attitude was somewhat unpleasant and no one seemed to know much about anything. Also is any Nigerian Vet Coy selling sexed semen? Am interested in knowing how Maple got his and what the success rates were for the heifers or cows per service.

I will give you a contact of someone in NVRI Vom, he is very resourceful, he has done insemination for Intergrated Dairies Vom in the past and has done sexed insemination for Nagari farms.

GOM2016:
Professionals in the house, at what age do heifers usually get pregnant? what breed of Nigerian cow is best for diary stock?

on the average the first estrus cycle in our local breeds is observe between 39 to 45 months.( above 3 years) one of the limiting factors affecting cattle production is the late maturity of our local breeds. developed foreign breeds have their first calf by 24 to 30 months . estrus is observed around 15 months.feeding is a serious factor for early maturity especially in foreign cows(Bos Taurus) than local breeds ( Bos indicus) . one of the unique things about our local cows is despite the nomadic life style for herdsmen, they have high fertility and can withstand long trekking ,drought and food shortages. on local breeds for dairy , gudali has a genetic potential for higher milk yields than white fulani. under experimental condition s gudali has out performed white fulani by 2 litres daily, gudali produces 5 litres when well fed,with grasses, water and concentrates (2kg)while white fulani gave 3 litres under same feeding conditions

Profgordons:


There is no fixed age actually, most times body weight is used as this is a variable function of age and management practices of which feeding plays a key role. Also some breeds are slower to develop. Generally speaking, this would be greater than 2.5years in any known pure breed in Nigeria. As for the breed of choice, the white fulani wins it. It matures earlier, good fertility, highly drought and disease resistant. It's udder conformity is not bad as well. I hope this helps. My advice is for you to learn as much as possible before investing. Commercial Dairy is not like raising commercial chickens.

firstly about the AI go to NAPRi Zaria to their ruminant section, you will be able to get a competent person to synchronize your cows and insiminate them. the price is N15000 for both services but since it is a government facility you could get it cheaper

bilaal29:
@felixzo1 please what of the climatic conditions of the south considering that the animals are not used to such weather condition

the animals will aclimatise over time, care should be placed on things like accommodation and feeding, most grasses in the South have high water content of about 75% or more, if this grasses are fed to this sheep on arrival, they will purge a lot and may die . there are two solutions, 1 reducing the water content in the grasses by sun drying before feeding. or buying some grasses along with your sheep and gradually introducing them to the grasses s in the South. sheeps are goats in the north are more use to dried grasses especially during the dry period of the year

shamecurls:
Will it be advisable for me to buy Uda rams in Lagos for fattening against Ileya as I plan to
sell-off then.

If I can, where in Lagos can I get a good deal.

Nb- Just planning to start with as little as 10 of them.

buying anything from Lagos will always be expensive.still depends on the quality you want. if up to 10 ,it's wort going to the North yourself

GOM2016:
I was at abattoir yesterday, I saw a female of two years old very lean but with a good frame , the mallam told me that the cow is lean because of low rainfall in north, he said that if I feed it very well in three month, it will be very big. do u you think I should go ahead?

my question is ,are you sure it is only two years old, if yes, it can add weight if fed well and treated. what is the price tag

this a welcome development

Ifedayour007:


Please I want you to clarify something for me. Is it true that Catle/Bull won't get fat if you don't walk them around ?

the reverse is the case,they will not gain rapid weight if they walk too much around. but exercises are good for them, a little walking around is fine

jadareese:


is d line functional at all I sent a request to be added for like a month now and I'm yet to see any activity... @ felixzo1,sentbu a mail too.pls check and respond.thx

sorry been busy saw your mail, hopefully we chat this weekend

iFarms:


Hello Felixzo1, Our Boss saw this your thread on Nairaland here and he developed interest in it. Can u make the soft copy available for ifarms and to be published in our coming edition of ifarms journal (international) which will be release on 25th of this month.

sent me a mail talk2fanen@gmail.com

phillings247:
pls oga mi,how much do u buy ur feed concentrate per bag nd whats d size

as of the last time of inquiries, cattle feeds concentrate produce by hybrid feeds were sold at 1300 per 25kg, there are cheaper sources like dried brewer grain ,dried cassava peels(grinded)and other things that could be cheaper in your environment

MANGAM:
Hw old are the palms? What are the variety of the palms? U can start by getting a farm manager that will watch over ur farm while u are away. Under ur instruction the farm manager should be able to arrange, cordinate and supervise the weeding, clearing and trimming and pruning of the palms trees that's if u don't ve the time.
Other house members should pls help out.

CC: okine4real, felixzo1

my palms have started fruiting,in fact few have ripening but still at the early stages, I hope to get some thing out of them this year,I did not travel to my village personal ly but I use contract labour for clearing and pruning, I will upload pix as soon as I get them

samshoz:
Hi house, My doe/she -goat has bloated stomach, i gave first aid: red oil and used veg. Oil too. Any other things i need to do? I cant reach a vet at the moment.

hello House, compliments of the season to everyone.I promise to update regularly this year.there is a lot of information to share. goat bloating is not a diseases, it just occurs as a result of the goat feeding either too much concentrate or too much of a grass that is rich in protein causing the too much gas to build in the stomach ,making it looks very big and the goat very uncomfortable .bloating can kill a goat in two days, even if not treated, it can go off,personally I have handled bloating in cattle and not goats, the generally idea is trying to get the gas built up in the stomach out.as soon as the gas is off the goat should return to its normal activities. you should consider the possibilities that your goat ate something harmful

True talk.maybe nigerians are not human enough.

saintalb:
PLEASE LETS KEEP THIS THREAD ACTIVE. KINDLY SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH PICTURES TO ENCOURAGE OTHERS

sorry guys , I will. started a fattening project ,we sel this December

MANGAM:
These photos were sent to me by a relative in the village. The palms are not doin good.

.just weed and apply fertilizer. things wil change

matuskyoo7:
I recent want to venture into goat bizness, but the problem is where to get a pure breed of boer goat and kalahari red goat...anyone with useful information will be welcomed...

contact me, talk2fanen@gmail
.com www.nairaland.com/1812127/cattle-fattening-goat-farming-dairy

to transport a cow from the north to Lagos range from 7000 to 15000 depending on the size of the cow, for rams range from 300 to 2000 depending on size. there are vet charges and taxes to pay too. experience is the best teacher www.nairaland.com/1812127/cattle-fattening-goat-farming-dairy

Maple:
Yes its in abuja.

In a remarkable coincidence, I got a Sallah present from my Farm today.

The Brown Swiss cross dairy cow in my farm today gave birth to a female calf. The calf is a cross between brown swiss (25%) + Friesian (50%) + Gudali (25%).

big congratulations, a sign of good things to come, if I were In abj, I would have certainly gone to your farm

How do one handle social pobia.drugs .or therapy, I need more clearity on the subject matter

This is a serious one

What the milk trade reveals about the
country
For Muhammadu Abubakar, life is an
uphill struggle. Farming in Nigeria is tricky
at the best of times. Only the brave or
the downright crazy would think of
dealing in a perishable product like milk.
On his ranch on the dusty fringes of Kano,
the biggest city in Nigeria’s north, he
faces a daunting array of problems. The
electricity grid is hopeless. So, at the
gateway, two generators splutter away 24
hours a day. Diesel sets Mr Abubakar back
about 1m naira ($5,100) a month. “We’ve
had two hours of power in three days,” he
says. “There’s no option.”
There are no good cows for sale nearby,
so Mr Abubakar’s company, L&Z
Integrated Farms, plans to start importing
its own. There are no good seeds for
fodder; he brought in cuttings on a
commercial flight from Kenya. There is no
mains water, so he must drill boreholes to
irrigate his fields. Fertile land has a
tendency to turn to dust. He has to train
his own staff to use complicated
machinery. Plenty of batches get spoilt
along the way. By the time it is
processed, a litre of milk has already cost
about 320 naira (£1) to produce.
Then the milk has to get to market.
“Three or four years ago we used to fly
our milk down to Lagos,” he says. “It cost
a fortune. The milk would spoil sitting in
the airport. We had to pay off customs. It
was a nightmare.” Nowadays, the firm
uses costly refrigerated trucks instead.
Drivers must brave day-long journeys on
disintegrating roads. Each truck requires
about 200,000 naira ($1,000) in opaque
licence fees every month. Even when
those are paid, local authorities send
thugs out to get more.
“They make you buy new paperwork,”
one trucker says. “We probably pay
3,000-4,000 naira (roughly $15-$20)
every journey.” When the milk finally
arrives on supermarket shelves, it costs
around three times what it would in
Europe. Cheap long-life imports sell for
less than half the price of local milk.
Nigeria spends roughly $1m a day on
imported milk powder, according to Sahel
Capital, a private equity group which
recently invested the same amount into
Mr Abubakar’s business in the hope of
changing that.
Other types of farming are equally
fraught. Nestlé finds it cheaper to bring
starch in than to buy it locally. Olam, a
Singapore-listed agribusiness, says that
processing costs up to 30% more than in
other countries. Mukul Mathur, who
heads its Nigerian business, says that
moving a container from Kano to Lagos
costs as much as from Lagos to Osaka,
though the distance to Japan is 13 times
greater.
Agricultural reforms have begun in the
past four years, including the introduction
of new subsidies for smallholders. The
arrival in Nigeria of foreign supermarkets
such as Shoprite and Spar provides a
guaranteed market for some growers.
Domestic production appears to be rising,
though Nigeria still has hardly any
companies that add value to basic crops,
for example by turning fruit into juice.
And larger problems such as lousy roads, a
shortage of finance and the insecurity of
land tenure remain unchanged.
Until the 1960s, Nigeria was a net
exporter of food. Now it imports $3
billion a year more than it exports.
Agriculture contributes almost nothing to
government coffers. As oil revenues
plummet and foreign reserves dry up, this
matters.
Mr Abubakar remains one of a
depressingly small group of commercial
farmers in Nigeria. Most of his dairy
competitors, he says, are politicians who
“can afford to sink money into it”. Yet for
all the difficulties he faces, he is struggling
to meet demand. “We are making a very
good profit,” he says. “If you can do that
with milk, you can do it with anything.”
Source: The Economist