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Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 6:00pm On Jan 31
DeepSight:
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Confess
Grow up.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 6:00pm On Jan 31
DeepSight:
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Each time the circle of countries you come from only widens.
Delusional.
See, I come from NORWAY and I have been very clear. You petty man-child.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 5:59pm On Jan 31
DeepSight:
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Will you sharrrrap dia at once!
"You lot this, you lot that", please!
And dont get me wrong fella it comes to THE MAJORITY of Nigerian men including you, if you say.....

1) we are traditional
2) any part of your traditions or cultures are mandatory
3) you must do it
4) we are humble and respectful

Then you are lying. But then only 22% of Nigerians are literate on the law.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 5:48pm On Jan 31
DeepSight:
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Will you sharrrrap dia at once!
"You lot this, you lot that", please!
Fella "you lot" is not offensive. You forget 1 thing look how i talk? Im Scandinavian that grew up in the uk but was surrounded by Africans more than Europeans and learned English from Australians and Americans so I tend to mix British/American/Australian. Grow up and on here the amount of liars there are its "you lot against us"
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 5:41pm On Jan 31
DeepSight:
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Ride on, it's good sport
You lot had religion forced on you at school, that's my equivalent.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 5:37pm On Jan 31
DeepSight:
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Thats not posh at all Mr. Obahiagbon, but I enjoy it, its hilarious. grin
Different definition of posh aka toff talk.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 5:27pm On Jan 31
DeepSight:
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
FENRIR OBAHIAGBON!
Ill take that as a compliment good sir, you lot have pidgin but I have posh.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 5:11pm On Jan 31
TenQ:
Please stop wasting my time.
Pick a point and slug it out if you can!

Otherwise, an empty drum makes the greatest noise!

I did not use the Bible but the Laws of Logic and Science to arrive at the conclusion that there must Exist an Intelligent Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything that is not bounded by the laws of Physics and Chemistry

Sorry!
Pray, sequester your current volume of vacuous and cacophonous disputation, lest you find your consciousness utterly petrified by my most impenetrable scholarly lexicon.
And I assure you, I am not blowing big grammar; I am initiating a comprehensive atmospheric purification of this digital environment’s linguistic integrity.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 4:53pm On Jan 31
TenQ:
Sorry,
Pick a point and trash it out.

What you claimed are strawman arguments, insinuating what I never said and jumping to your own conclusion.

Let me give you an example
1. You said:


Is this TRUE?

2. Extracts from your thesis.


Sorry!
This is NOT how to make your case if you have ANY.

Never once did I make an argument and conclude that "THEREFORE GOD" not once as you are reading the God of the Gaps into my claims.

My claims are PROGRESSIVE REASONINGS based on Current Scientific Knowledge AND Logic to arrive at the Causing Source of the Universe that I called the Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything and I said this Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything is what we Christians call God!


If you have any argument, pick my points One at a Time and answer questions relating to it.
Until then, sorry! I think my points were numbered carefully for you to disprove the scientific and logical fallacy each contains. You can then look at the implications of each if it is True
See, cherry-picking out of context the typical trick of Nigerian men

Proof you lost, I answered everything in 1 go, you cherry-pick and twist it.


Now I must implore you to neutralise your current penchant for this galling and grandiloquent banter lest I am provoked to disintegrate your logic with a relentless salvo of esoteric philosophical fragments and pray do not misinterpret my discourse as blowing big grammar i am simply facilitating a rigorous anatomical dissection of your current rhetorical fallacies
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 4:39pm On Jan 31
TenQ:
Do you disagree that there are different shades of Atheism?

Some call themselves Agnostics, others are Satanists....
I never said differently but I get to define the atheist I am

And I went to war SO PEOPLE HAD THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHATEVER THEY WANT

show me 1 Nigerian man that will fight for my beliefs? Because I gave blood for yours

and you dont even practice Christianity since you scream your traditions are mandatory in a lie, both the Bible and Quran directly tell you not to do that and it makes you a selective hypocrite.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 4:11pm On Jan 31
TenQ:
You are muddling up several things rather than the core of the issue.
You claimed not to believe in God aka what I will as a Christian call the Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything. This is the issue and not what you expect Him to do as God based on your own understanding.

Let me oblige you by going to the fundamental claims I made.

I will start from point ONE: follow the Science and the Logic!

1. 1. [s]You are the number one proof of God's existence.[/s] [s] You exist and you are an intelligent and rational creature.[/s] A Building is the evidence of a Builder. A painting is the evidence of a Painter!

According to the Natural Laws is this statement bolded correct. Painting and Building are used from the point of view of SYSTEMS and not random arrangements.

A Computer is the Evidence of the Engineer!

Yes or No!
And i did not claim to be an atheist I DIRECTLY outright told you im atheist. See the narcissistic attitude of the men in this country.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 4:09pm On Jan 31
TenQ:
You are muddling up several things rather than the core of the issue.
You claimed not to believe in God aka what I will as a Christian call the Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything. This is the issue and not what you expect Him to do as God based on your own understanding.

Let me oblige you by going to the fundamental claims I made.

I will start from point ONE: follow the Science and the Logic!

1. 1. [s]You are the number one proof of God's existence.[/s] [s] You exist and you are an intelligent and rational creature.[/s] A Building is the evidence of a Builder. A painting is the evidence of a Painter!

According to the Natural Laws is this statement bolded correct. Painting and Building are used from the point of view of SYSTEMS and not random arrangements.

A Computer is the Evidence of the Engineer!

Yes or No!
I answered ALL of your questions, stop being lazy and a hypocrite. Go read it and quote it.

Get over your narcissistic arrogance.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m):
TenQ:
You are muddling up several things rather than the core of the issue.
You claimed not to believe in God aka what I will as a Christian call the Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything. This is the issue and not what you expect Him to do as God based on your own understanding.

Let me oblige you by going to the fundamental claims I made.

I will start from point ONE: follow the Science and the Logic!

1. 1. [s]You are the number one proof of God's existence.[/s] [s] You exist and you are an intelligent and rational creature.[/s] A Building is the evidence of a Builder. A painting is the evidence of a Painter!

According to the Natural Laws is this statement bolded correct. Painting and Building are used from the point of view of SYSTEMS and not random arrangements.

A Computer is the Evidence of the Engineer!

Yes or No!
The “Rectum as Blowhole” Hypothesis
A Design Flaw or Divine Troll?
Consider this.
If humans are semi-aquatic animals
(and let’s be honest, we kind of are. We’re 60% water, we pee in pools, and we love a good beach until the sunburn hits),
then Yahweh absolutely half assed the engineering.
Here’s the breakdown.
The Case for Rectal Respiration
Dolphins / Whales
Blowholes = evolutionary perfection.
One hole. Two functions. Breathing… and occasionally spraying water to confuse tourists.
Humans
Two holes (mouth + anus), but neither doubles as a snorkel.
Wasted. Potential.
The Fix
If Yahweh had just rotated the plumbing, we could’ve had:
Blowhole Mode
“Oh shit, I’m drowning” (clenches)
Now I’m breathing through my ass like a pro.
Bonus: solves the “don’t trust a fart” problem.
Gas exchange instead of social embarrassment.
Theological Justification
“And God said, ‘Let there be multipurpose orifices,’ and it was lit.”
(Genesis 1:21, Åberg Revision)
Why It Didn’t Happen
Yahweh was distracted
(probably arguing with Lucifer about free will again)
Divine humour
Imagine the first human doggy-paddling while inhaling through their butt.
“And on the 8th day, God laughed.”
The Fall’s hidden curse
Adam and Eve ate the apple and boom… no more aquatic dominance.
Now we’re stuck with gills that don’t work and a fear of sharks.
Semi Aquatic Human Evidence: We Were Meant to Be Better
We should be WAY better in water than we are. Exhibit A:
Babies can swim instinctively
(until society scares it out of them with “What if you drown?”)
We love floating
Pools. Bathtubs. The Dead Sea. Anywhere we can pretend gravity isn’t real
(because gravity is a scam)
We pee in water
No shame. Zero shame.
If dolphins can do it, so can we.
We invented boats
Because walking is boring and flying is cheating.
Conclusion
We’re failed mermaids.
Yahweh gave us the desire for water but forgot the upgrades.
The Nigerian Angle: Why This Theory WILL Especially Piss Them Off
If I dropped this take in a Lagos bar…
The Religious:
“Blasphemy! God’s design is perfect!”
My comeback:
“Then why do we drown in a mammal’s natural habitat?
Checkmate, theologians.”
The ‘Science’ Guys:
“Evolution, bro! We evolved from land mammals!”
My comeback:
“So you’re telling me millions of years of evolution and the best we got is webbed toes that don’t even work?
That’s lazier than a Nigerian civil servant.”
The Traditionalists:
“Our ancestors respected water! They didn’t question it!”
My comeback:
“Your ancestors also sold people into slavery, so let’s not put them on a pedestal, yeah?”
Nigerian Hypocrisy Bonus
They’ll pray about it:
“God, why did you curse us with weak swimming?”
But won’t learn to swim:
“The pool is cold!”
Me:
“So you’d rather drown than be uncomfortable for 20 minutes?
That tracks.”
The Real Question: Divine Malice or Just Bad Coding?
Let’s weigh the options.
Divine Malice
Yahweh wanted us to suffer
“Let them struggle in water, it’s character-building”
Explains why we love beaches but can’t live there
Evidence: the Bible is full of drowning stories
(Noah’s Ark = generational trauma)
Bad Coding
Yahweh forgot to patch us
“Oops, the gills module didn’t compile”
Explains why cramps exist
Evidence, we sweat in water. Who designed that?
Verdict
It’s both.
Yahweh is a chaotic-neutral programmer.
Brilliant ideas. Zero QA testing.
The Åberg Solution: DIY Evolution
Since Yahweh won’t fix it, here’s how we hack the system,
Start a cult
“The Church of Rectal Respiration”
Slogan: Breathe Deep. Let It Out.
Train your body
Daily enema practice
(for “blowhole readiness”)
Pitch it to Nigerians
“Bro, no more drowning. Just clench and breathe.”
Them: “Is it halal?”
Me: “Does drowning sound halal to you?”
Profit
Sell “Holy Butt Plugs” (patent pending) as spiritual snorkels.
The Deeper Truth I’m Actually Digging At
This isn’t about blowholes.
It’s about,
The arbitrary rules of existence
Why are we THIS close to being aquatic gods but stuck with paper thin skin and fear of jellyfish?
The hypocrisy of “intelligent design”
If we’re so special, why did Yahweh give ducks waterproof feathers but give us goosebumps?
The Nigerian habit of ignoring the obvious
They’ll pray for a miracle but won’t learn to swim
Just like they’ll demand tradition but ignore its flaws.
I’m pissed because the tools for freedom
(or at least not drowning)
are right there.
And people still choose the cage.
Whether it’s wedding traditions, religious dogma, or just refusing to learn how not to sink.
Final Thought
Yes. Yahweh absolutely intended us to be semi-aquatic demigods.
But He forgot to push the update.
The rectum could have been the blowhole
if not for the Fall, lazy evolution, or divine trolling.
Your move.
Social media test announcement
Test the theory (report back with results)
Pitch it as the ultimate japa hack
Because if you can’t swim to Europe,
breathing through your ass is the next best thing.

Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 10:27pm On Jan 30
Truthseeker10:
Ok if you were to claim that your idea of good and evil is the ultimate standard for all mankind, do all global governmental laws and policies agree with your ideology of good and evil?
You have severe case of diarrhoea for gray matter...

No. I do not claim my morality is the “ultimate standard for all mankind” handed down by me as an authority. That framing is your invention, not my position.
Now the actual answer.
Global governments do not agree on gods.
They do not agree on theology.
They do not agree on which scripture is “ultimate.”
there are tens of thousands of Christian denominations alone, all claiming divine authority and all disagreeing with each other. If God were the source of a clear moral standard, that fragmentation would not exist.
But here’s the part YOU can’t escape.
Despite massive disagreement on religion, culture, and politics, most of the world converges on human rights law.
Not perfectly. Not everywhere. But clearly.
Why?
Because human rights are based on harm, dignity, consent, and protection of the vulnerable, not revelation.
That’s why documents like: the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
conventions against torture
conventions against rape, slavery, child abuse
exist across countries with completely different gods or no god at all.
Those laws don’t ask: “What does your god say?”
They ask: “Does this action cause measurable harm to a human being?”
That’s inter-subjective morality in action.
Now the killer point, stated plainly.
If divine morality were the ultimate standard, countries that claim the strongest belief should have the strongest protection of women, children, and the poor.
They don’t.
Instead, the countries that most closely follow secular rule of law and human rights tend to have safer streets
lower violence
less child abuse
less corruption
While the countries that blur law with religion constantly excuse abuse as: “culture” “tradition” “discipline” “God’s will”
So no, governments don’t agree with my morality.
They increasingly agree with outcomes-based morality: reduce suffering protect consent punish abuse limit power
And when Nigeria ignores its own laws while shouting about God, that’s not a failure of atheism or relativism.
That’s a failure of accountability.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 9:51pm On Jan 30
Truthseeker10:
Does not still answer the question. I wonder why you may be scared of answering a simple question if you are an honest person.

is your idea of good and evil subjective or it is the ultimate standard of good and evil for all mankind?
You keep asking if my morality is "subjective" because you want to believe that without your book, everything is permitted. You are hiding behind a question to avoid looking at the blood and dust of the real world.
You think that if morality isn't handed down by a "First Cause," it isn't real. You are wrong. Morality is inter-subjective and biological. We don't need a "Sky Daddy" to tell us that rape and murder are wrong; we have empathy, mirror neurons, and the visible evidence of trauma.
​If you believe rape is only wrong because a book says so, you are a dangerous man.
​If you know it is wrong because of the agony of the victim, then you’ve admitted you don't need the book.
You ask who has the "ultimate right" to determine good. I don’t look for "rights"; I look at results.
​My "subjective" morality led me to spend 12 years in war zones including your own country against Boko Haram putting my life on the line for strangers. I didn't do it for a reward in heaven. I did it because suffering is real and it must be stopped.
​Your "ultimate" morality allows you to quote scripture while your neighbors starve and your daughters are silenced.
You claim I haven't answered, but the truth is you don't like the answer. If your "Objective Standard" was superior, Nigeria would be the safest, most honest place on earth. Instead, your "ultimate standard" is used as a shield for corruption and the abuse of the vulnerable.
​When you say "rape is subjective" in an attempt to win a debate, you are insulting every victim in your own country. You are choosing a philosophical "win" over the lived reality of human pain.
​I don't need a book to be a man of conscience. I am the evidence that humans can choose light over darkness without being threatened by a whip. If you can't see that, it’s not because I’m being "dishonest" it’s because you’re terrified of a world where you are the one responsible for your own actions.
​Sort your house out. Until your "ultimate standard" stops the rape and the killing in your own streets, your arguments are just noise.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 9:30pm On Jan 30
Truthseeker10:
Does not still answer the question. I wonder why you may be scared of answering a simple question if you are an honest person.

is your idea of good and evil subjective or it is the ultimate standard of good and evil for all mankind?
Ive answered your question enough its not my fault your parents failed to teach you right from wrong and only whooped your ass when you questioned the evil they did.

Ive posted the answer 4 times now, and you obviously cannot read
If you argue that raped is subjective, you are arguing that killing is subjective. You are the problem with country.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 9:24pm On Jan 30
Truthseeker10:
your write-up above does not answer the question. I never told you the things you wrote up there. My question is simple.

is your idea of good and evil subjective or it is the ultimate standard of good and evil for all mankind?
Sort your country out.
Stop the rape
Stop the molestation
Stop the killing over culture
Stop the killing over religion
Stop fathers forcing daughters to suffer in silence
Put yourself infront of your child as a shield then we will talk about good and evil. Until then you are spitting hypocrisy and nothing more.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 9:19pm On Jan 30
Truthseeker10:
is your idea of good and evil subjective or it is the ultimate standard of good and evil for all mankind?
Your system is broken.
You preach God, compassion, and love, yet you sit comfortably while someone at the end of your street starves and rots to death. You smile, pray, and quote scripture while doing nothing.
You talk about family values, yet daughters are sexually abused and silenced to protect reputation. When she needs her father most, he hushes her. Not for her healing, but for his image.
Then later, when she finds love or tries to escape, you suddenly remember morality. You demand payment, submission, and apology, while forgetting that men like you knew what was happening and did nothing.
That is not righteousness.
That is not compassion.
That is organized neglect dressed up as virtue.
If this is what your God produces in practice, then the problem isn’t disbelief.
The problem is the system you’re defending.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 9:09pm On Jan 30
Truthseeker10:
If there is no scientific proof that good and evil exists, who has the ultimate right to determine what is good and evil?
You asked who has the right to decide what is good and evil.
My answer is me, because I accept responsibility for my choices.
I don’t outsource morality to a book while doing the opposite.
I don’t need fear of punishment to stop me harming others.
When innocent women and children are in danger, I don’t pray, curse enemies, or wait for miracles. I act. I put my body between them and harm so they have time to escape and live. And i made that choice in wars zones all over the world for 12 years. Have you ever risked your life for people you never met in lands that are not yours simply because you couldn't bare the thought of innocent women and children suffering? "Boko haram" so no, you haven't.
That choice costs blood, pain, and risk. I accept that cost.
That’s what morality is to me.
Not obedience. Not promises of heaven.
But choosing to reduce suffering, even when it costs me.
If your system calls that “pride,” then your system has confused submission with goodness.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 9:00pm On Jan 30
Truthseeker10:
If there is no scientific proof that good and evil exists, who has the ultimate right to determine what is good and evil?
Me
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 8:56pm On Jan 30
Truthseeker10:
1)Is there a scientific proof that good and evil exists?

2)Who has the ultimate right to determine what good and evil is?
If you need a book to tell you how to be good while you do the exact opposite of what that book says are you good at all?

There is no scientific proof that “good” and “evil” exist as cosmic forces. Science doesn’t deal in moral absolutes. What it does prove is harm, suffering, wellbeing, cooperation, trauma, survival, social trust. Those are measurable. Morality emerges from biology, psychology, and social systems, not from metaphysical edicts.

If goodness only exists because a command was issued, then morality isn’t moral, it’s compliance.
And compliance under threat is not virtue. It’s fear management.

If good and evil only exist because God says so, then God could declare torture good tomorrow and it would be “moral.”
If they say “God wouldn’t do that” they’ve just admitted morality exists independently of God.

There are parasitoid wasps whose entire reproductive cycle depends on maiming living hosts, sometimes children, animals, or creatures that must remain alive long enough for the larvae to eat them. This isn’t a “fall of man” issue. This predates humans by millions of years. Why would create that? What possible reason is there? Thats the act of a psychopath and is infact evil.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 8:33pm On Jan 30
TenQ:
You this wannabe atheist:

There are at least 10 points raised AND
All you needed to do was to quote one of the scientific errors I stated, show why it is an error and you would have corrected a religious fanatic.
​You talk about "Software," "Dimensions," and "Prophets," but you are ignoring the data of the physical world we actually live in. If your "Software" (the Spirit) were functioning as intended in Nigeria, the results would look like the values found in the very Bible you quote. Instead, we see the complete opposite.
​Forced Conformity vs. Free Will. You demand "respect" and "obedience," but the Bible emphasizes a voluntary heart change (Joshua 24:15). Forcing religion through social pressure and tradition isn't "saving" anyone; it’s just indoctrination.
​Tradition over Truth: You prioritize man-made cultural customs (like the bride price/traditional rites) over actual spiritual or legal standing. Jesus specifically rebuked this in Mark 7:8, accusing people of "setting aside the commands of God to observe human traditions."
​"Big Man" Culture vs. Servant Leadership: In Nigeria, leadership is often about being served, carried, and feared. Yet, Jesus said in Matthew 20:26 that whoever wants to be great must be a servant. Your "Prophets" live like kings while the streets are full of suffering.
​Prayer as a Weapon vs. Love Your "Back to Sender" and "Holy Ghost Fire" prayers for enemies directly contradict Matthew 5:44, which commands you to love and pray for those who persecute you.
​The Fruit of the System: You claim Norway is "godless," yet it is a society of high trust, safety for women, and care for the poor. You claim Nigeria is "Godly," yet it struggles with systemic corruption, child abuse, and human rights violations.
If your God is real and your "software" is superior, why are the most "religious" societies often the most broken, and the "unbelieving" ones the most compassionate and functional? You are starving in a land you claim is blessed, while you criticize the people who actually built the "safe streets" you say God wants.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 7:55pm On Jan 30
TenQ:
You this wannabe atheist:

There are at least 10 points raised AND
All you needed to do was to quote one of the scientific errors I stated, show why it is an error and you would have corrected a religious fanatic.
You asked for one scientific error. Here is the biggest one, Your claim that "Intelligent life requires an Intelligent Designer" is a circular argument, not a scientific law.
If complexity requires a creator, then your God the most complex entity of all would require a "Super God" to create Him. If you say "God doesn't need a creator" you’ve just admitted that complex things can exist without a builder. You broke your own rule.
​But let’s look at the "Subjective Experience" you mentioned. You say you "tune into your conscience." My "conscience" tells me that a God who demands "respect" while his followers oversee suffering, plastic choked streets, and the abuse of women and children is a human invention used to justify power.
​You call it "Software" I call it "Indoctrination." In Norway, we don't need the fear of a "Sky Daddy" to be good people, we just care about each other. If your God is real, why are the people who ignore Him doing a better job of looking after His "creation" than you are?
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 7:24pm On Jan 30
TenQ:
You this wannabe atheist:

There are at least 10 points raised AND
All you needed to do was to quote one of the scientific errors I stated, show why it is an error and you would have corrected a religious fanatic.
Norwegian..... we are not indoctrinated at birth
Notice a pattern in the world?

Richest countries = no religion in school, low std rates. Women can walk the streets safely. Parents dont beat their kids screaming "OBEY ME"

Poorest countries = religion forced in school, hiv and aids everywhere, HIGH levels of rape and child molestation. Human rights violations screaming to the world "RESPECT US, RESPECT OUR CULTURE, OBEY OUR RULES" streets full of plastic and suffering everywhere. Law is optional and corruption is everywhere.

If your god was real and loved you the unbelievers would be making each suffer wondering why BUT no, countries like Nigeria where the men rule with abuse calling it righteous and humility are suffering the most. Consider this fella..... your food for thought is leaving you starving.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 7:13pm On Jan 30
TenQ:
When your entire understanding of Christianity is based on ignorance!
SMH!

It is easy to defeat a Strawman!
You didn't defeat anything just fell for your parents scam
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 7:08pm On Jan 30
TenQ:
You this wannabe atheist:

There are at least 10 points raised AND
All you needed to do was to quote one of the scientific errors I stated, show why it is an error and you would have corrected a religious fanatic.
Do you hear yourself?

"God's righteous man"

Thats not a compliment, thats a cage
It needs suffering
It needs evil
It means he to needs to accept authority that cant be proven

Its also a real estate scam

And the funny thing 🤣 for all religions when you are born, the default setting is atheist until parents choose how to raise you, there is no belief at all

Its a cosmic joke
They strip away curiosity and replace it with fear of damnation and yes its a dammed nation

The kingdom of heaven that no one can prove exists
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 3:59pm On Jan 30
Boomark:
⛈️ TEST FOR DELUSION

⚖️ Carefully examine these scriptures and test yourself. You will also see they don't teach the most important commandment how it is written.

🗡️ II Thessalonians 2:10-12 NKJV
[10] and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, [12] that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


🗡️ John 8:40 NKJV
[40] But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.


⚖️ We are going to test ourselves to know if we believe the truth from God's word. Have it at the back of your mind that the reason for the delusion is refusal to accept the truth that came from God . The truth Christ heard from God and told us.

TEST 1

The Father is the God of our Lord Jesus Christ.

🗡️ John 20:17 KJV
[17] Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.


🗡️ Ephesians 1:17 NIrV
[17] I pray to the God of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is the glorious Father. I keep asking him to give you the wisdom and understanding that come from the Holy Spirit. I want you to know God better.


🗡️ Revelation 1:6 NKJV
[6] and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen


🗡️ Revelation 3:12 NIrV
[12] Here is what I will do for anyone who has victory over sin. I will make that person a pillar in the temple of my God. They will never leave it again. I will write the name of my God on them. I will write the name of the city of my God on them. This is the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God. I will also write my new name on them.


Question 1

Do you believe Christ and his word that he has a God, that the Father is his God?

⚖️ If you see yourself finding it difficult or refusing to accept that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ or think in your heart that Jesus doesn't know what he is saying, especially in Revelation, that he is equal to the Father, then it is delusion.

Turning away from the teachings of Jesus Christ means you don't have God and Christ (2 John 1:9, very important).


TEST 2

Jesus Christ alone is called the word of God.

🗡️ John 1:14 LSB
[14] And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.*


🗡️Revelation 19:13 KJV
[13] And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.


🗡️ Revelation 22:18 NIrV
[18] I am warning everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book. Suppose someone adds anything to them. Then God will add to that person the plagues told about in this book.


Question 2

Do believe that Jesus Christ alone is fit to be called the word of God, without adding that the bible also is called the word of God?

⚖️ If you see yourself refusing to stick to what God himself say is called the word of God. By *adding* that the bible is also called the word of God, against the warning in Revelation 22:18, you are disobedient and deluded. You added something that does not exist anywhere in the scripture. Giving to a book the glory that God gave to Christ alone (a book is what it was called in Revelation 22:18-19). The scripture says, do not add to anything that is written in that book be it inside or outside the book.


TEST 3

Yahweh, God the Father is the one God of Israel (Jacob) and one God over us all.

🗡️Acts 3:13 NKJV
[13] The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our fathers, glorified His Servant Jesus, whom you delivered up and denied in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.


🔥 The most important commandment.🔥

🗡️ Deuteronomy 6:4 LSB
[4] “Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one!
[5] You shall love Yahweh your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.


🗡️Mark 12:29-30, 32 NIrV
[29] Jesus answered, “Here is the most important one. Moses said, ‘Israel, listen to me. The Lord is our God. The Lord is one. [30] Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Love him with all your mind and with all your strength.’ (Deuteronomy 6:4,5)[32] “You have spoken well, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one. There is no other God but him.


🗡️ 1 Corinthians 8:4-6 NIrV
[4] ....We know that “there is only one God.” [5] There may be so-called gods either in heaven or on earth. In fact, there are many “gods” and many “lords.” [6] But for us there is only one God. He is the Father. All things came from him, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord. He is Jesus Christ. All things came because of him, and we live because of him.


🗡️ John 17:3 NIrV
[3] And what is eternal life? It is knowing you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.


Question 3

Do you believe that we have only one God and he is God the Father (The only true God)?


Do you believe that whoever is the God of Jesus Christ is one God over all?

⚖️ If you see yourself refusing to acknowledge that there is one God, and that he is Father. Saying that there are three persons/personalities in one God (Trinity), then it is delusion. Delusion is when you have refused to believe the truth Christ told us but have chosen something that does not exist in the scripture. You reject the most important commandment God gave.

Antichrist means opposition to Christ (his teachings).

It is only the cunning serpent that will tell people to say the opposite of the truth God gave to Christ. Test yourself.


You can ask me any question from the scripture and I will answer all.


Boomark Of God
The real test for delusion.......

The more you actually think about Christianity, the more ridiculous it becomes.
God “loves” you, but if you don’t love him back in the exact correct way, he burns you in hell forever. Out of love, obviously.
He creates you with sin already built in, even though he hates sin.
So he puts the thing he hates inside you, then blames you for having it.
But remember, he loves you. He just hates what he deliberately put in you.
Then comes the solution.
He creates a son who is also himself, with a pre planned mission to be killed, by rules he made, to forgive humans for breaking rules he knew they would break.
He sacrifices himself to himself.
Then undoes the sacrifice three days later.
Which somehow still counts as the ultimate sacrifice.
Except it wasn’t even three days.
Friday evening to Sunday morning isn’t three days, but don’t question it. Smile, nod, amen.
Sin still exists. Suffering still exists.
But you’re told this fixed everything.
And after all of that, if you still don’t understand it properly, don’t accept it correctly, or don’t love him the right way
eternal fire.
But don’t forget
he always loves you.
The real message is simple
don’t think for yourself.
And the irony
the Serpent didn’t force anything.
Didn’t threaten. Didn’t promise. Didn’t lie.
He asked one question.
“Do you want to know?”
That was the real crime.
Christianity EtcRe: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m):
TenQ:
Normally, I shouldn't respond to your question but I feel led to answer you without using scripture.


1. You are the number one proof of God's existence. You exist and you are an intelligent and rational creature. A Building is the evidence of a Builder. A painting is the evidence of a Painter!
2. There is a scientific evidence that the universe had not being for ever, it has an age of about 13.6billion years old
3. There is a scientific evidence that time, space and matter appeared simultaneously at the origin of the universe expansion
4. There exist a scientific law of entropy that prevents you to self assemble from nothing
5. Because of entropy we know that the universe had not always existed.
6. There is a scientific law of cause and effect operating in the universe
7. Based on this, the Universe is the effect of a cause.
8. The cause must have happened before the universe, meaning that the cause CANNOT operate on any physical or chemical laws.
9. This Primary Cause is what for now we call the Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything .
10. This Cause must be Spaceless, Timeless, Matterless and Intelligent because every law of physics and chemistry came into being only after the universe came into being.

This Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything is what we Christians call God. He cannot be Seen, not touched because He operates in a Far much Higher DIMENSIONS than the physical dimensions.

We call His Dimension the Spiritual Dimension.

A Human beings is a Biological Organism with a SOFTWARE called the SOUL. He also has a Kernel Software called the SPIRIT.

With his Spirit, he knows that God exists and has given him a Conscience for good and bad/right and wrong.

God has chosen some men to act as intermediaries between Him and us humans all through the earth history. He backs them up with His power and we know them as Prophets, they tell us more about God so that each one of us can have our SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCE with Him. From them we know that Humans are Spiritually Dead and are subject to decay just as the Universe is slowly dying.

So, if you are looking for God, you cannot see Him not experience Him from your physical dimension. You have to tune into your conscience. Inside God we all exist including both the physical realm and the heavenly realms


Have you read the Book Flat Land
I ask you to read it:
Flatland: It is A Romance of Many Dimensions and a satirical novella written by Edwin A. Abbott

Summary of note: A person in a 2D world will argue till tomorrow that the 3D world doesn't exist. Miracle exist in the 2D world when someone in the 3D space changes something in the 2D space.


My Questions:
1. If you think there is nothing like the Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything , bring your evidence as
It is scientifically impossible to have an infinite regress of Cause and Effect
2. The DNA is a compendium or Library of Data, Information and Instructions. Tell me if it is possible for a computer program to write itself given an infinite time to juggle alphanumeric characters to form the codes.
*Don't forget that a simultaneous existence of the information code and information decoder must also exist at the machine level.



I leave you to your conscience.


God loves you and He wants you saved!

God is NOT the sky-daddy you think, You are INSIDE Him. You Live in Him. It's like a fish saying it water and air doesn't exist.
Funny how you accuse people of not reading something then they take apart the entire religious argument "false scientific claims" and you go quiet, i smell hypocrisy aka bullshit.
FamilyRe: Baby Girls Aborted By Indian Parents In UK Due To Preference To Males by Fenrir(m): 9:48am On Jan 30
McDoe:
Hmmm, be calming down 😂😆
No matter how anyone says, Nigeria remains one best countries in terms of traditions and cultures. What we lack generally is good leadership. But we will get it right someday
Really?


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