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Christianity Etc › Re: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 9:53pm On Jan 25

DeepSight:
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I dont think what he wrote was AI generated. If we are to go by the so called terms and phrases pointed out, many of us had been using them long long long before anything like AI. I am sure you can find many of my own posts well over 15 years ago that your AI assessment would also assume was AI generated.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 9:18pm On Jan 25

TenQ:
Normally, I shouldn't respond to your question but I feel led to answer you without using scripture.

1. You are the number one proof of God's existence. You exist and you are an intelligent and rational creature. A Building is the evidence of a Builder. A painting is the evidence of a Painter!
2. There is a scientific evidence that the universe had not being for ever, it has an age of about 13.6billion years old
3. There is a scientific evidence that time, space and matter appeared simultaneously at the origin of the universe expansion
4. There exist a scientific law of entropy that prevents you to self assemble from nothing
5. Because of entropy we know that the universe had not always existed.
6. There is a scientific law of cause and effect operating in the universe
7. Based on this, the Universe is the effect of a cause.
8. The cause must have happened before the universe, meaning that the cause CANNOT operate on any physical or chemical laws.
9. This Primary Cause is what for now we call the Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything .
10. This Cause must be Spaceless, Timeless, Matterless and Intelligent because every law of physics and chemistry came into being only after the universe came into being.

This Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything is what we Christians call God. He cannot be Seen, not touched because He operates in a Far much Higher DIMENSIONS than the physical dimensions.

We call His Dimension the Spiritual Dimension.

A Human beings is a Biological Organism with a SOFTWARE called the SOUL. He also has a Kernel Software called the SPIRIT.

With his Spirit, he knows that God exists and has given him a Conscience for good and bad/right and wrong.

God has chosen some men to act as intermediaries between Him and us humans all through the earth history. He backs them up with His power and we know them as Prophets, they tell us more about God so that each one of us can have our SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCE with Him. From them we know that Humans are Spiritually Dead and are subject to decay just as the Universe is slowly dying.

So, if you are looking for God, you cannot see Him not experience Him from your physical dimension. You have to tune into your conscience. Inside God we all exist including both the physical realm and the heavenly realms

Have you read the Book Flat Land
I ask you to read it:
Flatland: It is A Romance of Many Dimensions and a satirical novella written by Edwin A. Abbott

Summary of note: A person in a 2D world will argue till tomorrow that the 3D world doesn't exist. Miracle exist in the 2D world when someone in the 3D space changes something in the 2D space.

My Questions:
1. If you think there is nothing like the Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything , bring your evidence as
It is scientifically impossible to have an infinite regress of Cause and Effect
2. The DNA is a compendium or Library of Data, Information and Instructions. Tell me if it is possible for a computer program to write itself given an infinite time to juggle alphanumeric characters to form the codes.
*Don't forget that a simultaneous existence of the information code and information decoder must also exist at the machine level.

I leave you to your conscience.

God loves you and He wants you saved!

God is NOT the sky-daddy you think, You are INSIDE Him. You Live in Him. It's like a fish saying it water and air doesn't exist.

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And Here are the specific signs that this is an AI generated response:
The "Listicle" Structure
AI models love numbered lists. When asked to "defend God's existence" or "provide scientific proof," an AI will almost always default to a 1-10 list format. While humans do this too, the AI’s version is perfectly balanced, with each point roughly the same length and following a logical progression (Cosmology \rightarrow Biology \rightarrow Consciousness \rightarrow Theology).
"Polished but Generic" Phrasing
Notice the specific vocabulary:
"Uncaused First Cause": This is a classic "textbook" term that AI pulls from its training on philosophy.
"Biological Organism with a SOFTWARE called the SOUL": AI often uses technological metaphors (software, kernel, hardware) to explain abstract concepts because it has been trained on a vast amount of tech-related data.
"Subjective experience": A very common AI "filler" phrase.
Lack of "Forum Flavor"
Nairaland is famous for its very specific Nigerian slang, "Naija" English, and a certain combative or highly emotive energy. This post has zero typos, zero local slang, and a very "clinical" or "Western academic" tone. It reads like an essay or a blog post rather than a forum comment.
The "Flatland" Metaphor
The use of Flatland is a very common "pre packaged" analogy found in AI training data. When an AI is asked to explain "higher dimensions" or "miracles" in a rational way, it almost invariably references Flatland because it's the most famous literary example of that concept.
Perfect Grammar and Pacing
Humans especially in heated online debates usually have "bursty" writing. They use fragments, multiple exclamation marks, or run-on sentences. This text has perfect punctuation and a very steady, rhythmic pacing. It is "too clean" for a spontaneous forum argument.
The "Non Scriptural" Prompting
The opening line, "I feel led to answer you without using scripture," is a common way users prompt AI: "Give me an argument for God but don't use the Bible." The AI then generates exactly what it was told a series of "scientific ish" sounding points.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 9:05pm On Jan 25

TenQ:
You didn't even read this! These are logical and scientific evidences that you can easily falsify or admit it validity.
SMH!

When Emptiness is masked by loud Noises!

But have it on record that you despised the knowledge that would have saved you.

Have a nice day!

I didn't read it? I took it apart
I just "its not evidence" before I did

Buy a dictionary and learn what "distinction" means

Christianity Etc › Re: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 9:00pm On Jan 25

TenQ:
Normally, I shouldn't respond to your question but I feel led to answer you without using scripture.

1. You are the number one proof of God's existence. You exist and you are an intelligent and rational creature. A Building is the evidence of a Builder. A painting is the evidence of a Painter!
2. There is a scientific evidence that the universe had not being for ever, it has an age of about 13.6billion years old
3. There is a scientific evidence that time, space and matter appeared simultaneously at the origin of the universe expansion
4. There exist a scientific law of entropy that prevents you to self assemble from nothing
5. Because of entropy we know that the universe had not always existed.
6. There is a scientific law of cause and effect operating in the universe
7. Based on this, the Universe is the effect of a cause.
8. The cause must have happened before the universe, meaning that the cause CANNOT operate on any physical or chemical laws.
9. This Primary Cause is what for now we call the Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything .
10. This Cause must be Spaceless, Timeless, Matterless and Intelligent because every law of physics and chemistry came into being only after the universe came into being.

This Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything is what we Christians call God. He cannot be Seen, not touched because He operates in a Far much Higher DIMENSIONS than the physical dimensions.

We call His Dimension the Spiritual Dimension.

A Human beings is a Biological Organism with a SOFTWARE called the SOUL. He also has a Kernel Software called the SPIRIT.

With his Spirit, he knows that God exists and has given him a Conscience for good and bad/right and wrong.

God has chosen some men to act as intermediaries between Him and us humans all through the earth history. He backs them up with His power and we know them as Prophets, they tell us more about God so that each one of us can have our SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCE with Him. From them we know that Humans are Spiritually Dead and are subject to decay just as the Universe is slowly dying.

So, if you are looking for God, you cannot see Him not experience Him from your physical dimension. You have to tune into your conscience. Inside God we all exist including both the physical realm and the heavenly realms

Have you read the Book Flat Land
I ask you to read it:
Flatland: It is A Romance of Many Dimensions and a satirical novella written by Edwin A. Abbott

Summary of note: A person in a 2D world will argue till tomorrow that the 3D world doesn't exist. Miracle exist in the 2D world when someone in the 3D space changes something in the 2D space.

My Questions:
1. If you think there is nothing like the Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything , bring your evidence as
It is scientifically impossible to have an infinite regress of Cause and Effect
2. The DNA is a compendium or Library of Data, Information and Instructions. Tell me if it is possible for a computer program to write itself given an infinite time to juggle alphanumeric characters to form the codes.
*Don't forget that a simultaneous existence of the information code and information decoder must also exist at the machine level.

I leave you to your conscience.

God loves you and He wants you saved!

God is NOT the sky-daddy you think, You are INSIDE Him. You Live in Him. It's like a fish saying it water and air doesn't exist.

The Scandi atheist deconstruction........

Let’s take this apart calmly, without insults, and see whether the argument actually holds up.
First problem: “A building proves a builder, therefore the universe proves God.”
This is a category error.
We know buildings have builders because we already have independent evidence that builders exist and that buildings are human-made. That logic cannot be universally applied to everything that looks complex.
Nature produces complex, structured systems all the time without conscious design. Snowflakes, crystals, hurricanes, galaxies, river deltas. Complexity alone is not evidence of intention. To argue design, you must first demonstrate a reliable method for distinguishing designed systems from undesigned ones, then show the universe falls into the “designed” category. Simply pointing at complexity and declaring “builder” is not a proof.
Also, using AI as proof of God backfires. AI demonstrates that apparently intelligent, rational behavior can arise from non-spiritual mechanisms like computation, statistics, and training data. If anything, it weakens the claim that intelligence requires a soul.
Second problem: “The universe is about 13.6 billion years old, therefore it had a beginning, therefore God.”
The Big Bang describes an early hot, dense state of the universe. It does not automatically mean creation from absolute nothing. Cosmology currently traces the universe back to a limit of our models. Beyond that point, physics is incomplete, not “proven God territory.”
“We don’t know yet” is not evidence for a specific metaphysical explanation, let alone Christianity. Ignorance is not a bridge to theology.
Third problem: “Time, space, and matter appeared simultaneously.”
Even if time emerges with the universe, that creates a problem for the argument, not a solution. Cause and effect as we understand them are temporal concepts. They rely on sequence. Before and after.
If time does not exist “before” the universe, then saying “the cause happened before the universe” is incoherent. You cannot rely on causation as a law and then apply it outside the domain where causation has meaning. That is internally inconsistent.
Fourth problem: Entropy is misunderstood.
Entropy does not say “complexity cannot arise.” It says total entropy in an isolated system increases. Local order can and does increase all the time, as long as entropy increases elsewhere. That is why stars form, crystals grow, and life exists.
Claiming entropy prevents self-assembly is simply incorrect physics. Entropy allows local complexity in energy-flowing systems.
Also, “from nothing” is a philosophical claim, not a settled scientific conclusion.
Fifth problem: “Entropy proves the universe could not have always existed.”
This depends on specific assumptions about the universe as an isolated system with fixed thermodynamic rules across all time. Many cosmological models challenge or modify those assumptions. Entropy arguments are not universal proofs of a beginning.
And even if they were, they would only suggest a boundary condition, not a personal God, and certainly not Christianity.
Sixth problem: “There is a scientific law that everything has a cause.”
There is no such scientific law. Causation is a metaphysical principle, not a universal empirical rule. Some interpretations of quantum mechanics even treat certain events as fundamentally probabilistic, not classically caused.
Science does not hand you “everything that exists must have a cause.”
Seventh problem: “The universe is an effect of a cause.”
This conclusion assumes three things that are not proven:
That the universe truly began to exist in the absolute sense
That everything that begins must have a cause
That causation applies outside time and space
All three are asserted, not demonstrated.
Eighth problem: “The cause must be outside physical laws.”
This is special pleading. You remove the laws that define causation and then keep the word “cause” anyway. That’s not an explanation, it’s a label for mystery.
You cannot say “causation requires no laws, no time, no structure” and still claim to understand what happened.
Ninth problem: “Uncaused First Cause.”
If everything needs a cause, then God needs a cause. If God does not need a cause, then not everything needs a cause. In that case, the universe itself could be the uncaused brute fact.
You don’t get to invent a universal rule and then exempt your preferred entity.
Tenth problem: “The cause must be spaceless, timeless, matterless, and intelligent.”
This is pure assertion.
Intelligence involves processing, selecting, deciding, and intending. Those are changes of state. Change implies sequence. Sequence implies time. A timeless intelligence is conceptually undefined unless carefully explained, which it never is.
A timeless being cannot “decide” to create at a moment, because moments require time.
Now the questions.
On infinite regress:
It is not scientifically proven that an infinite regress of causes is impossible. It is a philosophical debate. Even if infinite regress were impossible, that does not logically lead to a personal God. It could lead to a necessary physical principle, a boundary condition, or a brute fact.
The claim “you can’t traverse infinity to reach now” misunderstands infinity. The number line has no first negative number, yet zero exists just fine. An infinite past does not require starting somewhere and walking forward.
On DNA and information:
DNA is not a “library” in the sense of a book written by an author. It is a chemical sequence that participates in self-replication via biochemistry.
Information in the technical sense does not require a mind. Tree rings contain information about climate. Snow layers contain information about snowfall. No author required.
Evolution is not random typing. It is random variation plus non-random selection. That selection acts as an information ratchet, preserving functional structures over time.
The claim that a decoder must exist fully formed at the same time is false. Biology allows gradual, overlapping, imperfect systems. Early life models include molecules that both store information and catalyze reactions. There is no requirement for a complete modern decoding system to appear all at once.
Even in computing, self-modifying code, evolutionary algorithms, and program-generating programs already exist.
Finally, even if you granted a “first cause” or a “designer,” none of this gets you to Christianity. It does not get you prophets, salvation, souls, spirits, or your specific theology. That leap is asserted, not argued.
Flatland is a useful metaphor for intellectual humility, not religious certainty. If anything, it should make us less confident in declaring that we already know the ultimate nature of reality.
In short: the argument relies on metaphors, misunderstandings of physics, and repeated special pleading. Naming a mystery “God” does not explain it.
If God exists, He deserves better arguments than this.

TenQ check mate and you claim i didn't read your passive aggressive nonsense

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Christianity Etc › Re: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 8:42pm On Jan 25

TenQ:
Normally, I shouldn't respond to your question but I feel led to answer you without using scripture.

1. You are the number one proof of God's existence. You exist and you are an intelligent and rational creature. A Building is the evidence of a Builder. A painting is the evidence of a Painter!
2. There is a scientific evidence that the universe had not being for ever, it has an age of about 13.6billion years old
3. There is a scientific evidence that time, space and matter appeared simultaneously at the origin of the universe expansion
4. There exist a scientific law of entropy that prevents you to self assemble from nothing
5. Because of entropy we know that the universe had not always existed.
6. There is a scientific law of cause and effect operating in the universe
7. Based on this, the Universe is the effect of a cause.
8. The cause must have happened before the universe, meaning that the cause CANNOT operate on any physical or chemical laws.
9. This Primary Cause is what for now we call the Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything .
10. This Cause must be Spaceless, Timeless, Matterless and Intelligent because every law of physics and chemistry came into being only after the universe came into being.

This Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything is what we Christians call God. He cannot be Seen, not touched because He operates in a Far much Higher DIMENSIONS than the physical dimensions.

We call His Dimension the Spiritual Dimension.

A Human beings is a Biological Organism with a SOFTWARE called the SOUL. He also has a Kernel Software called the SPIRIT.

With his Spirit, he knows that God exists and has given him a Conscience for good and bad/right and wrong.

God has chosen some men to act as intermediaries between Him and us humans all through the earth history. He backs them up with His power and we know them as Prophets, they tell us more about God so that each one of us can have our SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCE with Him. From them we know that Humans are Spiritually Dead and are subject to decay just as the Universe is slowly dying.

So, if you are looking for God, you cannot see Him not experience Him from your physical dimension. You have to tune into your conscience. Inside God we all exist including both the physical realm and the heavenly realms

Have you read the Book Flat Land
I ask you to read it:
Flatland: It is A Romance of Many Dimensions and a satirical novella written by Edwin A. Abbott

Summary of note: A person in a 2D world will argue till tomorrow that the 3D world doesn't exist. Miracle exist in the 2D world when someone in the 3D space changes something in the 2D space.

My Questions:
1. If you think there is nothing like the Uncaused-First-Cause of Everything , bring your evidence as
It is scientifically impossible to have an infinite regress of Cause and Effect
2. The DNA is a compendium or Library of Data, Information and Instructions. Tell me if it is possible for a computer program to write itself given an infinite time to juggle alphanumeric characters to form the codes.
*Don't forget that a simultaneous existence of the information code and information decoder must also exist at the machine level.

I leave you to your conscience.

God loves you and He wants you saved!

God is NOT the sky-daddy you think, You are INSIDE Him. You Live in Him. It's like a fish saying it water and air doesn't exist.

None of that is evidence its belief and no more

Christianity Etc › Re: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 8:12pm On Jan 25

Boomark:
Chai! Nigerian men have suffered.

No, Nigerian men cause the suffering, not women.
One in four girls under 18 in Nigeria experience sexual violence. One in ten boys. That's UNICEF and Nigerian data, and those are only reported cases. The real numbers are higher because most victims never report due to stigma, fear, or zero faith in the system actually doing anything.
So the question stands, are children raping themselves?
Human rights violations happen daily in Nigerian families. Not some families, not a few bad apples, this is systemic. Families block marriages unless people submit to their demands, hiding behind "tradition is mandatory" when tradition gives you no legal or moral authority over adult lives. You have no say, you just act like you do and everyone pretends that's normal.
Lives get ruined constantly. Daughters, sisters, cousins, all in the name of traditions and culture that half the people enforcing them don't even practice themselves. And the women aren't the ones doing this, they have no control over the country, no structural power to enforce any of it.
Then there's marital rape. Under the Criminal Code and Penal Code that still govern most of Nigeria, marital rape isn't a crime. The law defines unlawful sexual intercourse as happening outside of marriage, meaning by legal definition a husband cannot rape his wife. The Violence Against Persons Prohibition Act from 2015 changed this, but only in the handful of states that actually adopted it. For most of the country the old codes still apply and spousal rape remains legal.
Most Nigerian men justify this with bride price logic, "I paid for you so you owe me submission," then turn around and complain when women speak up because providing a basic lifestyle apparently deserves constant praise and worship.
So again, who's violating human rights in this country? Is it the women with no structural power? Or is it the fathers, uncles, brothers, and male cousins who control the families, the laws, and the enforcement of both?

Fashion › Re: American Woman Says Nigerian Fashion Has Colonized US Prom (Video) by Fenrir(m): 7:50pm On Jan 25

steadygo:
You still have not listed the name of your paid AI detector.

I got banned, right like I told that Tello619 or Tello916

Step 1, I use a uk number in Nigeria because its unlimited everything with EE

download a paid vpn and proton is the best option £8.09 per month and set it to any European country that will unlock the European play store

Step 2, download gptzero the paid version and we will know if you lie or not because it will look exactly like mine

So in summary £8.09 for the vpn and £16 for the AI detector

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Fashion › Re: American Woman Says Nigerian Fashion Has Colonized US Prom (Video) by Fenrir(m): 7:01pm On Jan 25

steadygo:
I find this strange. Why follow me then all of a sudden reply to a random post to claim I used AI... without even giving the website of your AI detector? Anyways, your AI detector is either wrong or are you're doing something shady. I have attached a screenshot of my same post checked with Grammarly AI Detector and it gives a score of 0.

YES A FREE ONE and i specifically used a paid one that cross checks all PAID AI detectors

You picked 1 free ai detectors the most unreliable free version that cross checks nothing

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Christianity Etc › Re: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 6:17pm On Jan 25

TenQ:
Answer my questions, then your errors will be made glaring far all to see. But fear will not allow you. If your argument are based on false premises, how can the arguments stand?

Whenever you overcome your fright, answer the questions
1. Can anyone see God?
2. Can God be in Heaven and on Earth concurrently?

Your God is not different from the God of the Muslims.

What proof have any of you got that any god exists?

You are all wrong until you can prove it to the entire world all at the same time, if your gods are real and all powerful what is the excuse for hiding?

Christianity Etc › Re: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 6:12pm On Jan 25

Boomark:
Make it glaring by yourself. Are you waiting for my approval before you do or are you just afraid.

If you make any mistake I won't wait for you before I destroy the error you post.

I told you to ask me the question in another place. You want to derail this thread with your questions. Everyone is afraid of what I wrote. Go and oppose the things I wrote let me see.

By the way, are you a Christian?

See the arrogance and narcissistic attitude of Nigerian men? Assuming people want their approval? No wonder you all lie over something as petty as weddings.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Lady Shares A Controversial Post About Islamic Mindset (Photo) by Fenrir(m): 5:48pm On Jan 25

Eniitankorede:
You are definitely ignorant. Go and dust your history book and read it. Otherwise Google is there for you. Do you know the name of Spain in Islamic era? Go and read about Andalusia and the Muslims of Andalusia and their contribution to science and knowledge. You should read how Galeleo and the rest were persecuted by the church while Muslims were the source of knowledge. Go back to school.

Funny how you dont attack the white atheist in living in your country when I correct you so....

I enjoin you to truncate your current sequence of ostentatious and pugnacious vociferations for i am poised to dissolve your composure within a vat of highly acidic and sesquipedalian terminology

Fashion › Re: American Woman Says Nigerian Fashion Has Colonized US Prom (Video) by Fenrir(m): 5:39pm On Jan 25

steadygo:
It is actually very sad as in Nigeria we wear our traditional attire about as rarely as non-ethnics abroad are wearing it— for special events. We need to put a serious de-colonial initiative in Nigeria before we can even consider things like this as an achievement because right now it is effectively more of a mockery.

You used AI steadygo a PAID AI detector proves it

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Christianity Etc › Re: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 5:38pm On Jan 25

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ of Israel is recorded to have said He was sent by His Father only to the Lost sheep of Israel — the bloodline of Jacob, son of Isaac; Non-Israelites, like the Egyptians and foreigners who were allowed to live in the land of Israel by Moses, could assess the crumbs that fall from the master's table; they are not, however, the children for whom the promises/covenant are designated. 🥱🥱

Kobojunkie, what you’re doing here is theological cherry picking dressed up as scholarship, and it’s embarrassing to watch someone with access to the full Bible pretend half of it doesn’t exist.
You’ve frozen Jesus at Matthew 15:24 like someone pausing a film mid-scene and then writing a review based on that single frame. Yes, Jesus said he was sent to the lost sheep of Israel. Nobody disputes that. What you’re doing is pretending the rest of the passage doesn’t count.
Same chapter. Same interaction. The Canaanite woman persists. Her daughter is healed. Jesus publicly praises her faith. If “crumbs” were the ceiling, the miracle would not have happened. End of story.
But context destroys your position, which is why you avoid it.
Jesus didn’t make a one-off exception and then revert to ethnic exclusivity. He consistently broke covenant boundaries throughout his ministry. He heals a Roman centurion’s servant and says he hasn’t found faith like that in Israel. He reveals his messiahship to a Samaritan woman. He makes a Samaritan the moral hero of a parable. He says many will come from east and west to sit with Abraham.
That’s not accidental. That’s the design.
Then comes the resurrection, where your argument really collapses.
Matthew 28:19: “Go and make disciples of all nations.”
Not Israel plus exceptions. All nations.
Acts reinforces this explicitly. Peter receives a vision telling him not to call unclean what God has made clean, specifically in reference to Gentiles. Paul’s entire ministry exists because the covenant expanded, not because Gentiles were begging for scraps.
Galatians 3:28: neither Jew nor Greek, all one in Christ.
Romans 10:12: no difference between Jew and Gentile.
Romans 9 pre empts your bloodline fixation entirely: “not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.”
What you’re actually doing is Old Covenant literalism while ignoring the New Covenant altogether, which is ironic given that you’re quoting Jesus, who is the hinge between the two.
That’s not Bible study. That’s identity cosplay with scripture as the costume.
The correct framing, which the entire New Testament builds toward, is simple: Jesus’ earthly ministry began with Israel because covenant history begins there. The gospel’s trajectory is outward expansion, not ethnic lockdown.
You can’t have it both ways. Either you accept the full counsel of scripture, or you admit you’re mining verses to support a pre existing agenda.
And yes, before you try the usual deflection
I’m an atheist.
This isn’t faith. It’s literacy.

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Crime › Re: This Country Makes Me Laugh Sometimes by Fenrir(op): 3:33am On Jan 25

Fenrir:
Nigeria scam culture 101 (the boringly predictable kind)
Let’s talk about one of the most common “clean looking” scams around right now.
Not yahoo yahoo loud.
Not inheritance emails.
This one wears a suit and says “compliance”.
Pattern looks like this......

Person presents themselves as:
“Business consultant”
“CAC registration expert”
“SME / NGO helper”
“Compliance partner”
Everything looks professional at first glance:
WhatsApp Business profile
Fancy logo and banner
Office hours listed
Lagos location
Gmail address
TinyURL website
POS machine photos
Random container yard or “office” pictures
To the untrained eye: legit.
To anyone who’s been here long enough: red flags stacked like Jenga.

How the scam actually works

Step 1
They target beginners
Dating apps, WhatsApp groups, Facebook SMEs, Telegram hustle groups.
Anyone new to business, especially foreigners or first timers.

Step 2
They offer “easy CAC registration”
Fast. Cheap. “No stress”.
Sometimes bundled with TIN, SCUML, NGO registration, church registration, mosque registration.
Notice how religious orgs get added for trust signaling.

Step 3
They collect payment upfront
Usually small enough not to scare you.
“Just pay for filing”
“Government fees”
“Portal charges”

Step 4
They send screenshots
Old CAC screenshots.
Generic approval pages.
Sometimes edited PDFs.

Step 5
Delays start
“CAC portal is down”
“System glitch”
“Strike”
“Madam handling it travelled”
“Public holiday”
“Server issue”

Step 6
You either:
Never get anything
Get a fake document
Get a real registration done in the wrong name
Get registered as Business Name when you paid for Limited
Get ghosted slowly, not immediately
This isn’t sophisticated fraud.
It’s volume fraud.

The visual theatre part (important)
The images are never random.
POS machine photo
Means “I accept payments daily, I’m legit”
Container yard photo
Means “I’m involved in trade / logistics / business”
Office flyer with gold and blue
Means “corporate”
WhatsApp Business profile
Means “verified” (it isn’t)
“Open now 9–6”
Means “structured”
All of this is visual credibility laundering.
None of it proves anything.

Now here’s the uncomfortable part
Real businesses in Nigeria often look exactly the same.
Why?
Because:
CAC agents are informal by nature
Most don’t have offices
WhatsApp is the primary tool
Gmail is normal
TinyURL is common
Flyers are outsourced
Photos are recycled
So the same surface signals are used by both scammers and legit operators.
That’s why people say “Nigeria is confusing”
No. The signals are corrupted.

How you actually tell the difference (without guessing)
Not feelings. Not tone. Not politeness.
Process.
A real CAC agent:
Gives you YOUR login details for the CAC portal
Registers using YOUR email, not theirs
Lets you see name reservation live
Uses official payment receipts
Doesn’t rush
Explains business structure differences properly
Doesn’t bundle everything blindly
A scammer:
Keeps everything “on their side”
Avoids giving portal access
Talks fast
Pushes urgency
Uses “trust me” language
Hides behind screenshots

Why this keeps working
Because:
People want shortcuts
Bureaucracy is painful
Everyone is tired
Trust is assumed based on appearance
Asking too many questions is seen as rude here
Scammers exploit politeness, not stupidity.

The reality
The problem isn’t that scams exist.
Scams exist everywhere.
The problem is that in Nigeria:
The scam and the legit version look identical
The environment rewards confidence over verification
Victims are blamed for “not being street smart”
That’s why this keeps recycling.
Same format.
Same photos.
Different names.
And tomorrow, someone else will fall for it.
Not because they’re dumb.
Because the signal system is broken.

And this is supposed to be the land of scams.
Im disappointed people you could be great if you thought outside the box.

Well, ill show you how 🤔

Politics › Re: We Should Bring Back The Monarchy System To Nigeria by Fenrir(m): 1:49am On Jan 25

Fenrir:
Ah yes, at last someone has finally recognized my destiny.

As a Norwegian, I graciously accept your invitation to become King of Nigeria. It’s only logical. My Viking ancestors were practically born with crowns and axes, and the word “viking” already contains “king,” so clearly, fate has spoken.

Don’t worry, I’ll rule benevolently. I will sit on a golden throne made of melted down generators, declare NEPA illegal, and ensure that all roads are paved before my coronation feast of suya and lutefisk. I will also knight the first person who teaches the entire country how to pronounce “Svalbard.”

Norway has absolutely nothing Nigeria needs except snow, fish, and unsolicited opinions, but I’ll bring them anyway. By the time I’m done, Nigeria will have the punctuality of Scandinavia, the bravery of Vikings, and the calm patience of someone who has queued for JAMB results.

As my first royal culinary decree, Nigerian jollof rice shall be officially recognized as the best in the world. Let Ghana say whatever it wants. The crown has spoken.

Of course, every great kingdom needs entertainment, so I will appoint a royal jester. Preferably someone who thinks monarchy is the solution to Nigeria’s problems. At least they are already experienced in telling jokes.

Please prepare the crown, the royal palace, and a ceremonial goat. My longship is already parked at Tarkwa Bay.

Royal Decrees of the Kingdom of Nigeriask

By the authority vested in me by my Viking blood and impeccable sense of drama, I hereby issue the following decrees for the amusement, terror, and occasional enlightenment of my subjects:

Sex shall be a spectator sport. All participants must wear matching velvet capes and top hats. Commentary shall be provided by the royal jester. Tickets are mandatory. Popcorn will be served.

All cows must learn to waltz. Those who refuse shall be conscripted into the Royal Ballet of Bovine Elegance.

Nap time is compulsory at 3 PM daily. Anyone caught refusing a nap shall be sentenced to reading Norse poetry aloud while standing on one foot.

Every citizen must own at least one ridiculous hat. The more feathers, bells, and glitter, the higher your social standing.

All meetings must begin with a dramatic entrance. Failure to do so results in immediate exile to the ceremonial goat pen.

Royal proclamations shall be delivered via interpretive dance whenever possible. Traditional speech is considered barbaric and highly uncivilized.

All official disputes shall be settled by competitive yodeling. Judges will be appointed by the royal jester.

Nigerian jollof rice remains the official food of the kingdom. Anyone caught questioning this shall be forced to eat only lutefisk for one month.

Sunday mornings are reserved for dragon riding. Helmets and mandatory Viking war cries are required. Failure to comply will be met with royal eye-rolls and sarcastic applause.

Every citizen must bow to my longship upon sight. It has feelings too and deserves recognition for its loyalty.

These decrees are final, binding, and utterly ridiculous. Any complaints should be addressed to the royal jester, who is legally required to laugh at you.

Long live the Kingdom of Nigeriask 👑🛡️🛶

The Royal Return: A Proclamation from the Longship
Subjects, Jollof enthusiasts, generator whisperers, and those still trying to pronounce "Svalbard" without summoning ancient demons:
I HAVE RETURNED!
After a brief sabbatical spent consulting with the Great Polar Bears of the North (who send their regards and asked why you lot don't just eat the crude oil instead of fighting over it), attempting to teach Norwegian reindeer the fine art of "danfo dodging," and explaining to my Viking ancestors why I traded my fur cloak for a breathable agbada that makes me look like a well-dressed curtain, your King has docked his longship once again at Tarkwa Bay!
My journey back was TREACHEROUS. We were nearly capsized by a rogue tsunami of "unsolicited wedding invitations," attacked by a kraken made entirely of expired MTN data bundles, and briefly detained by customs who demanded to know why my longship was registered as a "luxury keke napep." But the sacred aroma of spicy Suya acted as our North Star, its smoky tendrils guiding us home through the fog of generator exhaust to this blessed land of 24/7 sunlight and 0/24 electricity.
The State of the Kingdom: A Royal Assessment
I have observed the realm in my absence, watching from afar with a telescope made of disappointment and Viking tears. My heart bleeds like a sliced tomato in a Thermomix set to "apocalypse mode."
I see you STILL struggle with "Nigerian Time." As your King, I find this categorically unacceptable and a personal insult to my punctual Nordic soul. From this day forward, "5 minutes" shall actually mean "5 MINUTES" not "sometime between now and the heat death of the universe."
Exception: If you are waiting for a tailor, wedding planner, or NEPA, the laws of physics, time, and basic human decency remain suspended by divine decree. These professions exist in a quantum state where promises are both kept and broken simultaneously until you show up angry.
New Royal Mandates (Effective Immediately Upon Pain of Yodeling)
To celebrate my glorious homecoming and the fact that the ceremonial goat survived my absence without staging a coup, I hereby add the following non-negotiable brilliance to the Royal Decrees of Nigeriask:
1. The Great Infrastructure Swap
Since you have too much sun and we have too much ice (seriously, we have SO MUCH ice, we don't know what to do with it), I am proposing the Trans-Atlantic Temperature Pipeline Project.
We will send you massive blocks of Norwegian glaciers via royal longship to:
Cool your beer to optimal drinking temperature
Provide air conditioning for exactly 6 minutes before melting
Create the world's first "Ice Skating Rink in Lekki" (operational hours: 6am-6:02am)
In return, you will send us enough concentrated Lagos heat, traffic rage, and "I said FIVE MINUTES" energy to make Oslo feel like Oshodi at 2pm in July. Our Vikings are tired of being frozen. They want to sweat! They want to complain about heat! They want to experience the joy of saying "this sun is not smiling today!"
2. The National Anthem Revision
The anthem shall now be performed EXCLUSIVELY on a talking drum accompanied by a heavy metal Viking guitar solo, three confused violinists, and one very aggressive triangle player who takes their job far too seriously.
It MUST be played at a volume that ensures:
The neighbors in Ghana can hear our superiority
Dogs in Cameroon start howling
Satellites briefly lose signal
Your ancestors wake up confused
3. Currency Reform: The Suya Standard
The Naira shall henceforth be backed by the Suya Standard™ (patent pending, all rights reserved, Ghana can cry about it).
Official exchange rate:
1 stick of kidney = 5 sticks of beef
1 stick of chicken = 3 sticks of beef (chicken is for the weak)
1 gizzard = Parliamentary immunity
Inflation will be permanently solved because everyone will be too busy eating, arguing about yaji spice levels, and fighting over the last stick to print more money. Economic crisis: SOLVED. You're welcome.
4. Royal Transportation Overhaul
Public transport shall be IMMEDIATELY replaced by:
In Lagos/Coastal Regions: Domesticated whales in the lagoons, trained to navigate Third Mainland Bridge traffic. They don't require petrol, only moss, fresh fish, and occasional compliments like "You're doing amazing, Oluwakemi the Whale."
In the North: Armored battle-reindeer equipped with:
Anti-pothole hooves
Built-in GPS (because unlike humans, they're PUNCTUAL)
The ability to side-eye danfo drivers
In Abuja: Giant royal eagles that only land for senators. Everyone else walks. This builds character.
5. The Ceremonial Goat Promotion
The ceremonial goat, having survived my absence with dignity and only moderate property damage, is hereby promoted to Lord High Chancellor of Recursive Bleating.
His responsibilities include:
Attending all state functions
Judging anyone who brings "just passing by" energy to a party
Eating all official documents he deems "unnecessarily boring"
6. Mandatory National Siesta
Every day at 3 PM, the entire nation STOPS.
All generators are silenced by royal decree
Traffic lights turn to "nap mode" (which looks identical to their current "not working" mode)
Anyone caught refusing a nap will be sentenced to reading Norse poetry aloud while standing on one foot and balancing a bowl of eba on their head
This is non-negotiable. Even armed robbers must observe siesta. Crime can wait. Sleep cannot.
7. The Great Hat Renaissance
Every citizen must own at least one RIDICULOUS hat. The more feathers, bells, jingle jangles, LED lights, and structural engineering violations, the higher your social standing.
Boring hats (baseball caps, berets, normal fedoras) are hereby BANNED. Your hat must:
Make people question your sanity
Require a building permit
Have its own weather system
The Royal Hat Inspector will conduct surprise inspections. Failure to comply results in mandatory enrollment in "Interpretive Dance Appreciation Classes" taught by the royal jester at 5am.
8. Meeting Protocol Reform
All meetings business, family, church, even accidental eye contact with your ex MUST begin with a dramatic entrance.
Acceptable dramatic entrance methods:
Kicking down the door (repair costs on you)
Arriving via zip-line while playing a saxophone
Emerging from a cloud of harmless but excessive smoke
Cartwheeling in while someone beatboxes your theme song
Failure to make a dramatic entrance results in:
Immediate exile to the ceremonial goat pen (he's judging you)
Being forced to attend every family meeting for the next year
Having to explain to the Royal Hat Inspector why you're so BORING
9. Dispute Resolution Reform
All official disputes land cases, marriage conflicts, "who makes the best jollof" arguments shall be settled by competitive yodeling.
Judges will be appointed by the royal jester, who is legally required to wear awig made of dried stockfish during all proceedings.
If yodeling fails (it won't), we resort to:
Synchronized swimming in a kiddie pool
Extreme ironing competitions
Whoever can explain NEPA billing the fastest
10. The Jollof Supremacy Act
Nigerian jollof rice remains the OFFICIAL, UNDISPUTED, UNQUESTIONABLE food of the kingdom.
Anyone caught:
Questioning this fact
Suggesting Ghanaian jollof is "also good"
Even THINKING about Senegalese jollof
Shall be sentenced to eat ONLY Norwegian lutefisk (fermented fish jelly that smells like industrial accidents) for one calendar month while we play "Sweet Mother" on repeat but only the instrumental version so you can fully contemplate your crimes.
A Stern Warning to the Royal Jester
I see the Royal Jester has been busy during my absence. GOOD. Keep it up. Your job security depends on the nation's laughter levels remaining above "mild chuckle."
However, if the laughter stops, I might actually have to start GOVERNING, and trust me, NOBODY wants a Viking trying to fill out civil service paperwork. It involves far too many axes, not enough staplers, and someone always ends up crying about "proper documentation" when I've clearly just solved the problem with fire and intimidation.
So keep juggling! Keep joke-telling! Keep the people entertained! Your life depends on it! (Not really. Maybe. Probably. Let's not test it.)
Final Royal Commands for the Homecoming Feast
PREPARE THE FEAST! I want:
47 goats (46 for eating, 1 for moral support)
Jollof rice prepared by exactly 12 grandmothers arguing about measurements
Chin-chin that could break teeth (the good kind)
Suya enough to feed an army of confused Vikings
Chapman that's 60% Fanta, 30% Sprite, 10% "what is this and why is it delicious"
WASH THE CEREMONIAL GOAT! He smells like poor life choices and must be presentable for his new role as Lord High Chancellor.
SUMMON THE ROYAL DJ! Tell them to play:
"Sweet Mother" but with MORE Viking war chanting
Fela Kuti remixed with Norwegian death metal
Every Wizkid song simultaneously (this is a test of the speakers)
ALERT THE TAILORS! I need new royal agbadas with:
Pockets big enough to hide emergency suya
Embroidered Viking runes that say "I am your King, bow accordingly"
Ventilation because THIS HEAT IS NOT PLAYING
INFORM THE NEIGHBOURS! Let Ghana know we're back. Let them HEAR IT. Turn up the music until they file a formal complaint, THEN turn it up more.
Long live the King!
Long live Nigeriask!
Long live Suya!
Long live the ceremonial goat!
🇳🇬🇳🇴⚔️🐐🍖👑
The King has spoken. The longship is parked. The generators are confused. The goat is promoted. Order is restored.
Now somebody PLEASE explain to me why NEPA changed their name but kept the same energy.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Lady Shares A Controversial Post About Islamic Mindset (Photo) by Fenrir(m): 12:29am On Jan 25

Eniitankorede:
Ignorant person. When you Algebra and Algorithm. Go and ask who they are and what religion they are. The father of medicine Ave Cena was a Muslim. GPS that you use for satelite communication was designed by a muslim woman. Many more. Ignorant ones like you will forever by ignorant, we don’t care.

Ignorant person? When you got the facts completely wrong?

Thats what happens when you take ancient books literally.

Small correction on the GPS claim, because accuracy matters.

The person who made the crucial mathematical contributions that enabled modern GPS was Dr. Gladys West, an African-American woman and mathematician who worked at the U.S. Naval Surface Warfare Center from 1956 to 1998. She developed the geodetic Earth models that made precise satellite positioning possible. She was not Muslim, and GPS was a Cold War era military project, not a medieval invention.

There is a separate and often conflated figure: Mariam al-Astrolabiya, a 10th-century Muslim woman who worked on astrolabes. Astrolabes are important historical navigation and astronomical instruments, but they are not GPS and have nothing to do with satellite communication.

So the correct distinction is:
Gladys West = modern GPS mathematics
Mariam al-Astrolabiya = pre-modern astronomical instruments

Both are impressive in their own contexts, but mixing them together weakens the argument rather than strengthening it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Test For Delusion by Fenrir(m): 10:15pm On Jan 24

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ of Israel is recorded to have said He was sent by His Father only to the Lost sheep of Israel — the bloodline of Jacob, son of Isaac; Non-Israelites, like the Egyptians and foreigners who were allowed to live in the land of Israel by Moses, could assess the crumbs that fall from the master's table; they are not, however, the children for whom the promises/covenant are designated. 🥱🥱

Moses was a murderer in the Bible NOT a killer specifically murder. The kill was premeditated. The Christian god LET Moses break the 10 commandments BEFORE the 10 commandments.

Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Lady Shares A Controversial Post About Islamic Mindset (Photo) by Fenrir(m): 10:01pm On Jan 24

Eniitankorede:
Ignorant person. When you Algebra and Algorithm. Go and ask who they are and what religion they are. The father of medicine Ave Cena was a Muslim. GPS that you use for satelite communication was designed by a muslim woman. Many more. Ignorant ones like you will forever by ignorant, we don’t care.

Might you be persuaded to terminate your current sequence of ostentatious haranguing before I obfuscate your mental equilibrium with a demonstration scholarly lexicography

Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Lady Shares A Controversial Post About Islamic Mindset (Photo) by Fenrir(m): 9:45pm On Jan 24

Kobojunkie:
Oh, this is an absolute lie! 🥱🥱

At no point in all of history did Islam ever bring light to Europe. To this day, Islam has almost always been associated with impeding the enlightenment in the Middle East for over a thousand years. And that trend continues to stifle development in the Middle East to this day. 🥱🥱

Not strictly true, when the greek fella burned their special book, it lit things up quite well

Christianity Etc › Re: Nigerian Lady Shares A Controversial Post About Islamic Mindset (Photo) by Fenrir(m): 9:33pm On Jan 24

Eniitankorede:
Go and ask you history teacher, Muslims and Islam held the light when Europe was in darkness. The story is on google. Stop being an ignoramus.

I must petition you to relinquish these histrionic enunciations lest I proceed to stupefy your perception with an avalanche of sesquipedalian prose

Christianity Etc › Re: Living Out Proverbs 31:12 As A Single Woman: She Brings Him Good, Not Harm by Fenrir(m): 8:07pm On Jan 24

Kobojunkie:
Stop lying to women!🥱🥱🥱

The Proverbs 31 woman is described as a woman who has been married to a generous multimillionaire/billionaire. The woman is a married woman who can accomplish all that is described by virtue of having a husband who provides abundantly for her to accomplish all of what is described and more by way of having very good project management skills and lots of househelps/laborers in her company. 🥱🥱🥱

The numerous poor household Operating Systems your churches create for these poor men out there are not Proverbs 31 women because they are married to poor men who can't even afford to pay the market cost of having even a cook, let alone a housemaid. 🥱🥱

What Proverbs 31 actually says, without modern projection or added distortions:

Proverbs 31 does not describe a woman whose achievements exist because her husband is rich.

The text repeatedly attributes competence, production, and economic activity directly to the woman herself.

She:
considers a field and buys it
plants a vineyard from the fruit of her labor
makes garments and sells them
trades profitably
manages servants and household operations
plans ahead for seasons and scarcity

The phrase “the fruit of her hands” appears repeatedly. That is authorship and agency, not allowance or male funding.

Her husband is described as “known in the gates” after her competence is established. In the ancient context, a man’s public standing often reflected the order and productivity of his household. The causality in the passage flows from her wisdom to household reputation, not from male wealth to female excellence.

Nothing in Proverbs 31 says:
her husband is a billionaire
her work is funded by his money
her success is dependent on male provision

Projecting modern Lagos outsourcing language like “project managers”, “househelps”, or “market cost of cooks” onto an Iron Age agrarian economy is anachronistic. “Servants” in that context meant extended household labor, kin, or apprentices. Management meant logistics, storage, trade, and seasonal planning, not payroll delegation.

On sexual ethics, precision matters.

The passage itself does not explicitly state “she was a virgin,” nor does it discuss her sexual past at all. However, within the moral and legal framework of ancient Israel, sexual relations were normatively restricted to marriage. It is therefore reasonable to assume that a Proverbs 31 woman would have entered marriage as a virgin, because that was the expected social norm of the culture.

But that assumption does not do what many modern commentators try to make it do.

Proverbs 31 evaluates a married woman in the present tense, based on her wisdom, discipline, foresight, generosity, and conduct within her household and community. The text does not construct a retroactive purity tribunal, nor does it suggest that her current virtue is erased by hypothetical past failure.

Turning Proverbs 31 into a tool for declaring that “most women in the world are disqualified” is not faithful to the passage. It shifts the focus away from the virtues the text actually praises and replaces them with modern moral gatekeeping and class bias.

Proverbs 31 is therefore a character and competence profile, not a wealth test and not a weapon for sexual exclusion.

The passage was not written to sanctify rich men, shame poor women, or redefine female excellence as male provision. It was written to describe wisdom in action within marriage.

Romance › Re: Black women should forget Race And Look At The Person Character by Fenrir(m): 6:58pm On Jan 24

SpencerForbes:
I’ll explain it to you. While many marriages fails when they leave the shores of Nigeria.

— The ladies experience a working society where she can make enough money by herself without having to live under the roof of any man without discrimination. Now after experiencing this, why should she be limited when she can have everything? And just like the biblical forbidden fruit, her eyes are opened to endless possibilities so she can no more follow the traditional marriage pattern but want to explore.

If you were dating in Nigeria, then she was expecting you to take her with you to your country. That’s why I said clearly she would even fund your lifestyle to be with you. If you were dating abroad, she knows that if she plays that role she played back in Nigeria, many Europeans or Americans will frown at it and she might actually lose the man. So definitely she’ll value you. But here in Nigeria, even though she leaves the relationship— she has nothing to lose. So why should she respect the man?

A Nigerian lady love is tied to what do I stand to gain or lose? If she dates a Nigerian, she loses less no matter what you’ve done because there are other men that will give her more but if she is dating a foreigner, she loses more because she might not get another if she doesn’t change and sometimes might get deported that’s the reason why they stay longer when they marry foreigners than Nigerians.

Fella im 40 and 100% Scandinavian

I was emancipated "made a legal man at 13" and sent to the uk

And unofficially raised by an old school yoruba woman in Southampton

She taught everything about Nigeria, my first trip was at 17 with her

During military service i was getting phds in your cultures

For all of you its not traditional, in all of your ancestors words

No virginity = no traditions
What the heck do you think the thanks we for?
Lineage guarantee and nothing else

Now its a family wanting to ritually humiliate people for their failures as parents

Romance › Re: Black women should forget Race And Look At The Person Character by Fenrir(m): 6:40pm On Jan 24

SpencerForbes:
Yeah. That’s also an issue but in some communities it isn’t compulsory you follow everything to the letter. Some can still be haggled but our ladies just want to have a better life so they chase foreigners and we can’t blame them.

Its not compulsory
Its not mandatory
Its not legally required anyway

Thats what makes it fraud

No family has any say in an adult life your whole constitution says that and there are punishments for family lying in the wedding process

The second someone says "no" its repugnant in the law

The family must issue a public apology
500,000 - 5,000,000 naira fine

+ a potential 2 - 7 years in prison

Nothing about tradition is mandatory or compulsory at all

You can do it or reject it but second family say YOU MUST DO IT, it becomes a crime and criminal + civil offence

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Romance › Re: Black women should forget Race And Look At The Person Character by Fenrir(m): 6:23pm On Jan 24

SpencerForbes:
Yeah! I write my post myself and to avoid being banned, AI rephrases it. You can see it took out lots of words to avoid being banned but I rarely let it think for me. But if you want the honest me, I guess I should prepare for long bans😅 but I still think y’all are only better due to your good system or many Nigerian ladies will choose Nigerians of foreigners.

Go check my topic "this country makes me laugh sometimes"

From my perspective the issue isnt men vs women

From my perspective its all the fraud from family and extended family in the wedding process AND it is fraud

Romance › Re: Black women should forget Race And Look At The Person Character by Fenrir(m): 6:20pm On Jan 24

SpencerForbes:
Yeah! I write my post myself and to avoid being banned, AI rephrases it. You can see it took out lots of words to avoid being banned but I rarely let it think for me. But if you want the honest me, I guess I should prepare for long bans😅 but I still think y’all are only better due to your good system or many Nigerian ladies will choose Nigerians of foreigners.

But your premise is still flawed because ALOT of Nigerian + Nigerian marriages are hitting divorce as soon as they leave the country now

How do you explain that? I make it clear i want to live in Nigeria that never hindered me so its not green card/visa or citizenship

And its not money, while I was dating i wasn't asked for anything until actually in the relationship

Romance › Re: Black women should forget Race And Look At The Person Character by Fenrir(m): 6:01pm On Jan 24

SpencerForbes:
Sometimes my rough draft comes out as too offensive so I incorporate Ai like grammarly and editing apps to make it more friendly. I don’t let AI think for me, I only work with it.

Notice i get banned a lot. Norwegian means I dont care what people say or think
Blunt is not rude its just honest

AI check more men on here just copy and AI after using it as logic grinder "Kobojunkie" is proof of that

Then others scream AI accusations with no evidence and rant and rave not even trying to prove the accusations and attack AFTER proving them hypocrites

You just did 1 bizarre thing, showed evidence of original writing THEN AI polish

Romance › Re: Black women should forget Race And Look At The Person Character by Fenrir(m): 5:31pm On Jan 24

SpencerForbes:
I'll be honest with you—the only reason you guys get that much respect from Nigerian women is because of the green card and the promise of a better life abroad. I’m willing to bet that if the system in Nigeria was the same as yours, they wouldn't care how well you treated them; they’d still feel entitled to your money.

Some of them only put up with bad attitudes or mental instability just to secure a better future. In Nigeria, a guy can treat a woman like a queen, but the moment she sees a foreigner, she acts like he’s the best thing ever—she might even fund his lifestyle just for a chance at a better life. Men do it too, but it’s nowhere near as common as it is with the women.

And with all these "pink" dating apps, it feels like our women are being turned into sex dolls for a bit of cash. You’ll have guys asking for nudes for $30, something you wouldn’t even dream of asking a woman in your own country. Honestly, I don't even blame you guys. I blame the lack of dignity and the fact that our system has completely failed them. So don’t you feel you’re better than Nigerian men, you’ve only got more opportunities. I can bet it with you that Nigerian men actually treat women better than y’all.

Romance › Re: Black women should forget Race And Look At The Person Character by Fenrir(m): 5:30pm On Jan 24

SpencerForbes:
I'll be honest with you—the only reason you guys get that much respect from Nigerian women is because of the green card and the promise of a better life abroad. I’m willing to bet that if the system in Nigeria was the same as yours, they wouldn't care how well you treated them; they’d still feel entitled to your money.

Some of them only put up with bad attitudes or mental instability just to secure a better future. In Nigeria, a guy can treat a woman like a queen, but the moment she sees a foreigner, she acts like he’s the best thing ever—she might even fund his lifestyle just for a chance at a better life. Men do it too, but it’s nowhere near as common as it is with the women.

And with all these "pink" dating apps, it feels like our women are being turned into sex dolls for a bit of cash. You’ll have guys asking for nudes for $30, something you wouldn’t even dream of asking a woman in your own country. Honestly, I don't even blame you guys. I blame the lack of dignity and the fact that our system has completely failed them. So don’t you feel you’re better than Nigerian men, you’ve only got more opportunities. I can bet it with you that Nigerian men actually treat women better than y’all.

Nonsense and you used AI for that response, want to me to prove it with paid AI detector results?

I was married to a yoruba woman. No traditions and lived in Nigeria "she passed away of cancer"

Now married to an igbo woman and still live in Nigeria

Both marriages, the women asked me for nothing, just love and pay the bills both made their own money

All that was/is expected of me is pay for the household + her personal maintenance "salons and stuff" other than that the marriage/marriages were a partnership

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