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SpencerForbes:
The secret many of our ladies won't admit is that they have two different sets of rules for Nigerian men versus Caucasians. When they're with a Nigerian guy, they expect him to handle 100% of the bills just because they're in a relationship. But the moment they link up with a white man, the energy changes. They either start hustling voluntarily or the man eventually asks, 'Babe, don’t you think you should be contributing to the home?' That’s when reality finally kicks in.

Yes there are 2 rules but its much more simple

Nigerian men demand and expect submission and sex without responsibility so Nigerian women pester "test" you for money immediately from before even a date

But us? We treat them human, and dont demand or expect submission and let sex happen naturally 😂 they dont ask or pester us for anything until actually in a relationship

Jakarta:
Effects of weak institutions and corruption. Watch them turn motivational speakers, hype men, they will instil fear on prospective clients, they will make look like the world wants to end if you don't buy their service.

That’s the part people avoid saying.

When families imply that cultural steps are mandatory legal requirements, knowing full well they are not, that is deception.

In plain terms, the majority of families are effectively scamming their own sons and daughters at their weddings.

Not with guns or threats, but with:
fear
pressure
shame
false claims about legality

If a stranger did this, you would call it fraud.

But when family does it, you rename it “tradition”.

Same mindset:
“It’s not wrong if everyone does it.”
“It’s not illegal if nobody challenges it.”

That’s why the scam culture feels normal.
The logic is learned at home first, not online.

Jakarta:
Effects of weak institutions and corruption. Watch them turn motivational speakers, hype men, they will instil fear on prospective clients, they will make look like the world wants to end if you don't buy their service.

No. What you just described is the problem.

It’s a mindset issue.

Nigeria runs on “it’s only illegal if you get caught”.

You see it everywhere, not just scams.

Take weddings. Families loudly imply that tradition and culture are mandatory legal requirements.
They are not.

In reality:
Two consenting adults can marry how they want.
They can reject introduction.
Reject bride price.
Reject family consent.
Reject every single customary step.

As long as both adults consent, the family has zero legal power.

But the system trains people to believe law is optional and tradition is compulsory.
That inversion is the same mindset that powers scams, fear selling, and manipulation.

Everything becomes:
“Can I get away with this?”
not
“Is this right?”

That’s the real issue.

Nigeria scam culture 101 (the boringly predictable kind)
Let’s talk about one of the most common “clean looking” scams around right now.
Not yahoo yahoo loud.
Not inheritance emails.
This one wears a suit and says “compliance”.
Pattern looks like this......


Person presents themselves as:
“Business consultant”
“CAC registration expert”
“SME / NGO helper”
“Compliance partner”
Everything looks professional at first glance:
WhatsApp Business profile
Fancy logo and banner
Office hours listed
Lagos location
Gmail address
TinyURL website
POS machine photos
Random container yard or “office” pictures
To the untrained eye: legit.
To anyone who’s been here long enough: red flags stacked like Jenga.

How the scam actually works

Step 1
They target beginners
Dating apps, WhatsApp groups, Facebook SMEs, Telegram hustle groups.
Anyone new to business, especially foreigners or first timers.

Step 2
They offer “easy CAC registration”
Fast. Cheap. “No stress”.
Sometimes bundled with TIN, SCUML, NGO registration, church registration, mosque registration.
Notice how religious orgs get added for trust signaling.

Step 3
They collect payment upfront
Usually small enough not to scare you.
“Just pay for filing”
“Government fees”
“Portal charges”

Step 4
They send screenshots
Old CAC screenshots.
Generic approval pages.
Sometimes edited PDFs.

Step 5
Delays start
“CAC portal is down”
“System glitch”
“Strike”
“Madam handling it travelled”
“Public holiday”
“Server issue”

Step 6
You either:
Never get anything
Get a fake document
Get a real registration done in the wrong name
Get registered as Business Name when you paid for Limited
Get ghosted slowly, not immediately
This isn’t sophisticated fraud.
It’s volume fraud.

The visual theatre part (important)
The images are never random.
POS machine photo
Means “I accept payments daily, I’m legit”
Container yard photo
Means “I’m involved in trade / logistics / business”
Office flyer with gold and blue
Means “corporate”
WhatsApp Business profile
Means “verified” (it isn’t)
“Open now 9–6”
Means “structured”
All of this is visual credibility laundering.
None of it proves anything.

Now here’s the uncomfortable part
Real businesses in Nigeria often look exactly the same.
Why?
Because:
CAC agents are informal by nature
Most don’t have offices
WhatsApp is the primary tool
Gmail is normal
TinyURL is common
Flyers are outsourced
Photos are recycled
So the same surface signals are used by both scammers and legit operators.
That’s why people say “Nigeria is confusing”
No. The signals are corrupted.

How you actually tell the difference (without guessing)
Not feelings. Not tone. Not politeness.
Process.
A real CAC agent:
Gives you YOUR login details for the CAC portal
Registers using YOUR email, not theirs
Lets you see name reservation live
Uses official payment receipts
Doesn’t rush
Explains business structure differences properly
Doesn’t bundle everything blindly
A scammer:
Keeps everything “on their side”
Avoids giving portal access
Talks fast
Pushes urgency
Uses “trust me” language
Hides behind screenshots

Why this keeps working
Because:
People want shortcuts
Bureaucracy is painful
Everyone is tired
Trust is assumed based on appearance
Asking too many questions is seen as rude here
Scammers exploit politeness, not stupidity.

The reality
The problem isn’t that scams exist.
Scams exist everywhere.
The problem is that in Nigeria:
The scam and the legit version look identical
The environment rewards confidence over verification
Victims are blamed for “not being street smart”
That’s why this keeps recycling.
Same format.
Same photos.
Different names.
And tomorrow, someone else will fall for it.
Not because they’re dumb.
Because the signal system is broken.

bigpicture001:
Because of the high cost of energy, I barred her from overly use of electric hot plate, also gas finishes so fast.. all these are draining the family maintainance resources..

So I deviced a means to bring down the cost of energy by purchasing gokpo charcoal stove.. it's a new kinda charcoal stove that doesn't fume, it's clean energy and also burns faster..

Just that u need to infuse charcoal enough and cook straight hours so u can exchaust the charcoal, lest it won't stop burning inside..

Believe me, it doesn't darken pot nor fume..

By she has refused to use it, claiming I am taking her to olden days and causing lots of stress..

Okay I suggested she start to part pay the cost of cooking energy if sh must stick with her choice.. but sh has not filled gas since then nor part pay the huge NEPA bill that comes monthly..

Abeg wetin I go do for this case

*File photo

Basically this mans problems are not caused by his wife but.....

He’s confusing poor decision making with innovation, and presenting basic oversight as intelligence.

This isn’t clever problem solving, it’s a lack of understanding dressed up as strategy.

He’s mistaking improvisation for insight, and authority for competence.

What’s being presented as intelligence here is really just misunderstanding with confidence.

He’s not thinking deeply, he’s thinking loudly.

This isn’t a smart solution to a problem, it’s a problem created by not thinking the solution through.

He’s acting decisively, but without the technical understanding needed to justify those decisions

WHILE BLAMING IT ON HIS WIFE!

bigpicture001:
Because of the high cost of energy, I barred her from overly use of electric hot plate, also gas finishes so fast.. all these are draining the family maintainance resources..

So I deviced a means to bring down the cost of energy by purchasing gokpo charcoal stove.. it's a new kinda charcoal stove that doesn't fume, it's clean energy and also burns faster..

Just that u need to infuse charcoal enough and cook straight hours so u can exchaust the charcoal, lest it won't stop burning inside..

Believe me, it doesn't darken pot nor fume..

By she has refused to use it, claiming I am taking her to olden days and causing lots of stress..

Okay I suggested she start to part pay the cost of cooking energy if sh must stick with her choice.. but sh has not filled gas since then nor part pay the huge NEPA bill that comes monthly..

Abeg wetin I go do for this case

*File photo

A hot plate isn’t a full kitchen appliance.
It’s a temporary, lightweight gadget meant for quick, small jobs boiling water, frying an egg, heating leftovers, that kind of thing.

It was never designed to replace a proper stove or cooking surface for full meals. That’s why:

It draws power inefficiently over long periods

It wears out faster under heavy loads

It uses more electricity relative to what it does

So when this man complains that the hot plate is expensive to run long-term, that’s not surprising his setup wasn’t meant for daily household cooking in the first place.

If he had invested in a proper kitchen unit or range, the energy usage per meal would actually be lower and far more efficient than trying to force a hospitality tool into a full time job it wasn’t built for.

He’s complaining about cost while running his family’s cooking out of accessories instead of necessities.

That’s not innovation. That’s incompetence with excuses.

bigpicture001:
Because of the high cost of energy, I barred her from overly use of electric hot plate, also gas finishes so fast.. all these are draining the family maintainance resources..

So I deviced a means to bring down the cost of energy by purchasing gokpo charcoal stove.. it's a new kinda charcoal stove that doesn't fume, it's clean energy and also burns faster..

Just that u need to infuse charcoal enough and cook straight hours so u can exchaust the charcoal, lest it won't stop burning inside..

Believe me, it doesn't darken pot nor fume..

By she has refused to use it, claiming I am taking her to olden days and causing lots of stress..

Okay I suggested she start to part pay the cost of cooking energy if sh must stick with her choice.. but sh has not filled gas since then nor part pay the huge NEPA bill that comes monthly..

Abeg wetin I go do for this case

*File photo

First off, let’s stop the acting.

If you cannot afford a wife and a family, that is your problem, not a policy issue to be enforced with bans and threats.

Funny how people shout
“bride price!”
“tradition!”
“man of the house!”

But the moment real responsibility shows up after the ceremony, suddenly it’s
“energy cost is draining resources”

You paid bride price
You wanted authority
You wanted submission

But you didn’t budget for maintenance

That’s not culture. That’s poor planning.

Second, stop lying to yourself with this “clean cheap energy” story.

Charcoal is carbon.
Carbon burns.
Burning carbon produces smoke and particulates whether you see them or not.

Calling charcoal “clean energy” because it doesn’t blacken pots is just marketing nonsense.

You still buy charcoal.
It still costs money.
It still burns inside the house.

If this was really about saving money, wood would be cheaper.
But wood requires effort.
Charcoal lets you stay seated and still feel clever.

Third, let’s call it what it is.

Charcoal cooking is basically BBQ.

And globally, BBQ culture is not women’s labour.

Europe
America
Australia
South America

Fire, charcoal, smoke, seasoning, patience
That’s male pride territory.

Men compete over it.
Men boast about it.
Men stand there sweating and enjoying it.

So if you’ve suddenly rediscovered charcoal, where are you?

Why is the smoke suddenly her duty?

Because you don’t actually want “traditional cooking”.
You want traditional obedience without traditional effort.

That’s hypocrisy.

Fourth, this is the real issue.

You want
A wife
Submission
Domestic labour

But you cannot afford the lifestyle that comes with those expectations.

So instead of adjusting yourself, you try to downgrade her comfort and call it innovation.

That’s not leadership.
That’s insecurity wearing authority.

Final point.

You don’t solve household costs by banning tools and issuing ultimatums.
You solve them by budgeting, sharing responsibility, or doing the hard work yourself.

If you can’t do that
Grow up
Or stop pretending you’re ready for marriage.

Because this isn’t about energy.
It’s about wanting the benefits of being a man
Without paying the price of being one.

mezico96:
Good day cuties and gentlemen of NL

Lemme just go straight to the point

I attended a friend's traditional wedding last year December and after all the stress and struggles to settle the bride price, the father of the lady forbade she stays with the husband until after their church/white wedding which is two months from now

So guys, is he right to say that?
What is your opinion?

Let’s remove culture and religion completely and talk only Nigerian law.

Under Nigerian law, bride price and tradition create NO legal rights.
They do not give a father authority over an adult woman.
They are irrelevant in court.

What matters legally is this:

An adult woman (18+) has full constitutional autonomy.

Relevant law:

1) Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (1999)
Section 34
Right to dignity of the human person.

Section 35
Right to personal liberty.

Section 41
Right to freedom of movement and residence.

No parent, pastor, or family member has legal power to decide where an adult citizen lives.

2) Criminal Code (Southern Nigeria)
Any person who unlawfully restrains another person’s movement commits an offence.

If a father forbids, restrains, or prevents an adult woman from staying with her husband against her will, it can amount to:

unlawful detention
false imprisonment
coercive control

These are criminal offences, punishable by imprisonment and or fines, depending on facts and use of force or threats.

3) Marriage Act (if statutorily married)
Once a marriage exists under the Act, third parties have zero standing to interfere with cohabitation.

Even without a Marriage Act wedding, no law allows a parent to control an adult’s residence.

Important legal distinction:

If the woman voluntarily agrees to stay with her parents, no offence occurs.

If she is forbidden, pressured, threatened, or restrained, the father is legally exposed.

Key point people keep missing:

There is no law in Nigeria that says a woman must wait for a church or white wedding before living with her husband.

That rule does not exist in statute.
It is not recognised by courts.
It has no legal force.

Summary in law, not culture:

Bride price = no legal authority
Tradition = no legal authority
Church wedding = no legal authority
Constitution overrides all
Restraining an adult is a crime

Everything else is social compliance, not law.

That’s the legal position.

Kobojunkie:
Religion is a scam. And Christianity is a scam. What is the use of this test of yours? 🥱🥱🥱

None are scams they are just stories and you have no right to outright attack the religion, its the people that twist the religion that are the problem, no one alive today practices Christianity its a corrupted modern interpretation like your one sided cultures that you illegally force on people

Proving the point its not the system thats the problem just the people corrupting the systems

Eniitankorede:
That’s not true. In the west, Islam is the fastest growing either by conversion or whatever.

Nonsense most are atheist, you invading is different and people are taking a stand now.

Kobojunkie:
I never asked that the man to reverse his role. So, again, why should his taking over of cooking duty mean she should take over providing? 🥱🥱🥱

Pray, discontinue this torrent of pleonastic vapidity forthwith before I am moved to entangle your perceptions in a web of convoluted morphological intricacies

Kobojunkie:
When you are done rambling, let me know. 😕😕

I am duty bound to request the immediate hindrance of your raucous and unedifying prattle lest I choose to asphyxiate your focus with a dense atmosphere of antedilvian verbiage

MaxInDHouse:
When you are banned it's due to the use of offensive word so you can't discuss without insulting others.
Thank you!🙂

Nope

I get banned for typing old norse too because the bots dont understand it

Its the same for some sayings and metaphors too

Its a Nigerian forum not a world forum

MaxInDHouse:
I don't get what you meant by the word "ATHEIST"
Are you trying to say atheists can demand politeness from others while they don't need to be polite?🙂

Got banned for common European non offensive saying

No tried with you before and you couldn't handle metaphors without labels and you blocked

MaxInDHouse:
Here is the question again:

ATHIEST!!

MaxInDHouse:
Here is the question i asked you:

Please can you discuss without insulting the person chatting with you?

It only requires a YES or NO response!🙂

Im an atheist, I dont believe in religion i just like the story

Magic sky wizard gets people drunk on water wine
Turns into zombie to and cures the apple cure

That would be an awesome movie

MaxInDHouse:
No problem Sir, at least you have proved there is no need being polite but i can't discuss with people who are used to insulting others. So if you can't discuss without insulting others yet demanding what you can't give it's OK by me i will just waka pass!🙂

What exactly insulting what i said? None of it was sweating none of it an attack or I would have gotten banned

Not my fault you dont understand advanced and victorian English

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK Sir!😂

You actually understood it? You lot have got pidgin but ive got posh

MaxInDHouse:
"Be nice it's not an insult"

Please can you discuss without insulting the person chatting with you?

Because i want to discuss with you on Bible and Christianity.

Note one thing:

I belong to the one and only Christian Organization producing the fruit of faith which no religion can produce so try to maintain our discussion based on what i present to you as written in the Bible not on what the churches of Christendom are doing!🙂

Cease your vociferations crony antecedently I......
Discombobulate thy pugnacious and supercilious self with supercalifragilisticexpialidocious sesquidalia

Eniitankorede:
You don’t know how to interpret Quran. We follow word for word in sequence of creation. So do that, and you will understand.

Kindly cease thy bombastic pontifications ere I render thee utterly flummoxed with polysyllabic erudition

Definitely bumming if someone got banned

Image123:
Wow, It is well with you dear.

Kjaere? Who you calling Kjaere?


Ex British royal Marine MOS 11B Åberg
Served in Afghanistan and worse

What have ever done little
Im 40 not fragile

A spaniel like you cant beat a wolf no matter the age of the wolf

Image123:
Okay, first, you are extremely emotional and all over the place. You need to relax and think a bit more. Because you're emotional, you're assuming a lot. For example, i didn't say anything about the Bible changing or not, you assumed that.
If the most basic two lines is misunderstood based on the above, or on language competence which i have now ruled out, we can't have a productive discussion.

Yap yap

No, you are all world famous for lying about your cultures

Ive been coming to Nigeria since I was 17 and 40 now been married to Yoruba woman that died of cancer now married to igbo and ive more than proven i know the cultures the difference is that I dont tolerate the lie "we are traditional people" none of you are. Not really religious either its all for show and ego and you cant deny it, I live here and see it daily

And cant call me a hypocrite I attack my own culture too

Image123:
No wonder.

Ikke rart.

And? Your point is?
See heres the thing

Im Norwegian/Swedish/Danish by blood, birth and nationality

But was emancipated at 13 for killing my parents in self defence

Sent to the uk to live as a legal man at 13 with no adult authority and "UNOFFICIALLY" raised by an old school yoruba woman in Southampton uk "Hythe new forest"

Not the nonsense liars of today in that ethnicity
I maybe white as snow and made for the fjords but I know their original culture better than them

Dtruthspeaker:
All these are Off Points and change of Posts.

Got banned, right

You literally insulted the son of your god "a jew" the most famous jew ever so that means insult your own religion

And cannot get off your backside to read the original Hebrew that further insulting your god

Now...

Even the title “Messiah” is a Jewish concept.
Without Jews, Christianity has no text, no prophecy, no narrative spine.

People who really understand Christianity don’t attack Jews.
They know the entire structure rests on them.

So answer the question, how can the devil lie if he was never part of the original bible?

You even admitted you read the topic start so that admitting you dont know what you are talking about 😂

Check mate

Dtruthspeaker:
Off Point, change of Post, fallacy of reversing the burden of proof and even you believed he existed when you thought and believed that he did not lie until i corrected you. So this issue is settled. Let me attend to another lie in your post

Are you are Christian or not? And you insulted jews WHEN JESUS WAS A JEW

answer the question

How can the devil lie WHEN HES NOT PART OF CHRISTIANITY!!

you are showing your lack of knowledge and the fact the religion means nothing to you.

Dtruthspeaker:
Off Point.

It's now clear that you yourself appreciate that you are wrong on this issue.

So, let me go to the next issue you raised.

You can never answer that question

1) because you are not Christian

2) because you cant read Hebrew to learn the truth

How can the devil lie when he never existed?