₦airaland Forum

McDoe:
Hmmm, be calming down 😂😆
No matter how anyone says, Nigeria remains one best countries in terms of traditions and cultures. What we lack generally is good leadership. But we will get it right someday

Really?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNKIqDk0abU?si=JWHNoFv74piczEEk

McDoe:
Hmmm, be calming down 😂😆
No matter how anyone says, Nigeria remains one best countries in terms of traditions and cultures. What we lack generally is good leadership. But we will get it right someday

Really?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deAu1A9cHsU?si=6K6FpUbdSnX7aJPD

steadygo:
I don't have the desire to go back and forth with you. You've listed your AI detector so if anyone for whatever reason is interested in finding out if AI wrote my post, they can look into it— I am not interested. Being the writer I already know AI did not write it so I have no reason to spend money for an AI detector. And again, traditional attire is common usage in Nigeria.

And there it is proof of Ai use to build an argument

Should I point it out and embarrass you? Once I say it everyone can just Google it and see you just lied

So I give you the chance to admit it before I broadcast it and challenge everyone to Google it

It is 1 universally guaranteed way see AI use

steadygo:
I'm not paying for it, anyone who is interested can do that. Obviously, I know I did not use AI. It is also telling that your AI detector would flag a common word used in Nigeria like "traditional attire", as a sign of AI generation lol.

Then why ask me what I used when you had no intention and you obviously dont understand how AI detectors work if you spout this nonsense.

The truth? NO AI detector paid or free can tell if its human or machine is writing something

Its just structure and pattern recognition and nothing else. There are specific words that AI use regularly because they cannot commit to words humans use and humans rarely use those words

And 1 example is AI cannot say "blackmail or extortion" so uses the umbrella word "extraction"

Are you starting to understand? I just bought a paid one because I can and because you cant. And paid is more accurate free not accurate at all.

Boomark:
What you wrote is nonsense.

Go and practice it, then you will confirm that you are doing nonsense on your own.

Every tribe in Nigeria have their tradition which is different from others. All their traditions cannot be contained in the constitution.

If I am talking about what Christians should follow as it is written in the bible and you go out to bring anything from outside, then you are deluded. Look into your bible and give me answers.

And even this PROVES you are not Christian because Christianity preaches free will whereas you want to FORCE man made cultural traditions illegally and place them above the religion

Boomark:
What you wrote is nonsense.

Go and practice it, then you will confirm that you are doing nonsense on your own.

Every tribe in Nigeria have their tradition which is different from others. All their traditions cannot be contained in the constitution.

If I am talking about what Christians should follow as it is written in the bible and you go out to bring anything from outside, then you are deluded. Look into your bible and give me answers.

Simple logic.....

If a religion or culture say "a husband may beat his wife"

But the law says "domestic violence is a crime"

What takes priority?

The religion/culture?

Or

THE LAW THAT CAN LOCK HIM UP!!

Boomark:
What you wrote is nonsense.

Go and practice it, then you will confirm that you are doing nonsense on your own.

Every tribe in Nigeria have their tradition which is different from others. All their traditions cannot be contained in the constitution.

If I am talking about what Christians should follow as it is written in the bible and you go out to bring anything from outside, then you are deluded. Look into your bible and give me answers.

Even this topic you posted is clear signs of self delusion.

Boomark:
What you wrote is nonsense.

Go and practice it, then you will confirm that you are doing nonsense on your own.

Every tribe in Nigeria have their tradition which is different from others. All their traditions cannot be contained in the constitution.

If I am talking about what Christians should follow as it is written in the bible and you go out to bring anything from outside, then you are deluded. Look into your bible and give me answers.

I married a yoruba woman and did no traditions
And paid no bride price
Did no introduction

How was that possible if your nonsense were true?

She died of cancer and I did the exact same thing to marry igbo

Again how is that possible if your nonsense were true? Id be in prison if your nonsense was true.

Human rights and federal law matter everything else is a couple choice, criminal.

Boomark:
What you wrote is nonsense.

Go and practice it, then you will confirm that you are doing nonsense on your own.

Every tribe in Nigeria have their tradition which is different from others. All their traditions cannot be contained in the constitution.

If I am talking about what Christians should follow as it is written in the bible and you go out to bring anything from outside, then you are deluded. Look into your bible and give me answers.

See the Criminal attitude? Everything there can be verified and I have sent families to prison for it

Culture is not mandatory by definition

tctrills:
So what exactly is your point here?
I never talked about the number of Gods, so why are you bringing it up?
Again, are you saying that you worship 2 Gods? Are you into polytheism?
And if you worship one God, who is the God you worship?

😂 the Christian god made jealousy a sin yet freely admits in the Bible that hes a jealousy god and will send you to hell if you worship a different god even putting it in his 10 commandments

Boomark:
No. You are deluded not to know that the John 1:1 you quoted is talking about two Gods.

John 1:1 NKJV
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1. The word with God (the is with another God, not himself)

2. The word was God. (This is for the word)

It is not everywhere you see the word "God" you think it is talking about one person. This how you misinterpret the scripture by dodging somethings and you think it is not delusion.

I told you to wait until I reply you. Your beliefs is even the worst.

Check those i left for you. Proof that your nonsense

Bride price = married = lie

DeepSight:
+
Joker.

Yes jester, you are here to amuse me so......
Dance jester dance.

I am the organ grinder you are the......

DeepSight:
+
Didn't read any of this. Good luck.

Some golden age 😂😂

DeepSight:
+
Didn't read any of this. Good luck.

Not surprised with the literacy here but well done for admitting you cant read.

FYI, people that didn’t read dont type
"+
Didn’t read"

The + is also you using AI.

DeepSight:
+
Good night, young lady. Find a good man.

To secure in my masculinity for shots like this.
Ask
Your
Mum

DeepSight:
+
I could have nothing to do with anyone of such a low class, sorry.

Ol boy, your insults are none of my concern.
You're close to 50 and dual nationality? Congratulations. So am I. The difference is I used my years to learn Nigerian constitutional law while you apparently used yours to perfect the art of throwing tantrums when someone knows more than you.
You mentioned I come across like a kid for a reason? Here's what actually comes across: a middle-aged man so threatened by legal facts that he abandoned all pretense of intellectual engagement and went straight to "go back to the North Pole."
Pathetic.
You invoked the "golden age of Nairaland" with its "First Class posters" writing with "pin point academic accuracy and excellence." Then you proceeded to contribute nothing but personal attacks, nationalist gatekeeping, and the intellectual equivalent of a toddler's meltdown. Those golden age posters would be embarrassed to share a forum with this performance.
You called me obsessed, a kid, pathetic, low class, told me to leave Nigeria, leave Nairaland, go back to Scandinavia. Every single one of those insults exposed exactly who you are: someone who cannot handle being corrected, so you reached for the oldest playbook in existence.
Attack the messenger. Question their motives. Tell them to leave. Suggest they're obsessed.
It's almost impressive how unoriginal you are.
You asked why I'm on a Nigerian forum? Because I live here. I've raised my daughter here. I've been here long enough to know the difference between culture and law, and long enough to recognize when people like you lie about both.
You told me I'm "pathetically obsessed" and need to "find a job and a purpose in life."
Rich coming from a man who just wrote multiple paragraphs of emotional vomit instead of addressing a single legal citation. Who's obsessed, exactly? The person presenting case law, or the person having a breakdown because they can't refute it?
You said you "could have nothing to do with anyone of such a low class."
Good. I prefer my conversations with people who can actually think. You've demonstrated you're not qualified.
You finished with patronizing dismissal because when you have lost completely, when you have no argument left, when you've been intellectually outmatched and know it, you retreat to condescension.
Predictable. Boring. Defeated.
I don't need your approval. I need people like you to stop lying about the law, stop pretending culture grants you authority you don't have, and stop throwing tantrums when someone knows more than you.
But since you can't do any of that, how about you take your own advice?
Go find something better to do than embarrass yourself on a forum you claim to respect. Maybe then the "golden age" posters you idolize won't have to witness you dragging their legacy through the mud with your mediocrity.
Good night, old man.
Try harder next time.

Got banned you ran away

DeepSight:
+
Lol. Joker. You'd better go find a job and a purpose in life.
Because you arent grown.

What does it say?

DeepSight:
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You are the one who carries Nigerian men on your head. If someone says "Good morning" you would reply saying, "oh only arrogant Nigerian Men say such!" You are pathetically obsessed and it shows you up as a kid. Since you have so many options why are you here? Why not go enjoy the quality time of men from those wonderful places and leave us in peace?

Say that to my face? Gone on. Email and ill give you my address

Thats Nigerian men, you scream online you dont say anything in person

Pathetic
Mouthy
Little boys in person

Keyboard warriors online

DeepSight:
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I am not interested,. Just go back to the North Pole then you would not have to live your life on a Nigerian forum faking you who are and weeping all day about the poor and useless Nigerian men. Deal? Sounds far more reasonable to me.

Prithee desist from thine grandiose philippics antecedent to my obfuscating thy bellicose disposition with mellifluous verbosity

DeepSight:
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So f.......... what? I am close to 50 and dual nationality.

I mentioned that you come across like a kid for a reason, you do.

If you have ussies with "Nigerian men" such that you cant speak two sentences without referring to us, and your bigoted response to every argument is to refer to us, dont you think you should return to Britain or Scandinavia and leave us alone? Or just leave Nairaland alone? Surely you should have better things to do that waste your time on a Nigerian Forum complaining about Nigerian men.

Even if you are 90, you have the obsessed mind of a 15 year old girl.

You are the one that made the child remark showing how petty you are

And FYI like ive said many times

Im Norwegian/Swedish/Danish with all accompany citizenships

+ British + Nigerian
Its not hard if you prove you are worth it

DeepSight:
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Ol boy, your conversation is none of my concern. All I know is that during the golden age of nairaland there were many who wrote with pin point academic accuracy and excellence which kids like you today would call AI - and even AI of today will class as AI - because it doesnt know that such writing predated it.

There are many First class posts and posters from years ago right here on NL that will prove the point.

I can recite Nigerian law

I can tell you all of your ORIGINAL cultures that you lie about

I can name Every single tribe in your country

Dont believe me then come to ikoyi and ill do it while listen and learn

And scream excellence while you lie about culture and tradition daily?

DeepSight:
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Ol boy, your conversation is none of my concern. All I know is that during the golden age of nairaland there were many who wrote with pin point academic accuracy and excellence which kids like you today would call AI - and even AI of today will class as AI - because it doesnt know that such writing predated it.

There are many First class posts and posters from years ago right here on NL that will prove the point.

Excellence? Fella most of you men cannot afford a pot to piss in let alone run a family and you scream Excellence?

[quote author=DeepSight post=138259784]+
Ol boy, your conversation is none of my concern. All I know is that during the golden age of nairaland there were many who wrote with pin point academic accuracy and excellence which kids like you today would call AI.
[/quote
Im 40 AND not Nigerian
Im ex military and done things you cannot imagine

Scandinavian but British military now living in Nigeria

What does age have to do when anything, criminal?

Fenrir:
Read this carefully and hopefully it will educate and remove dark ages myth, you see even Nigeria has human rights.


LEGAL REALITY OF MARRIAGE, BRIDE PRICE, FAMILY AUTHORITY, AND ADULT AUTONOMY IN NIGERIA
This is a statement of law, not culture, not religion, and not opinion.
This post addresses the recurring false claims that:
Families have legal authority over adult marriages
Bride price creates or validates marriage
Cultural rites such as introduction are compulsory
Adults must plead or negotiate for family approval
All four claims are legally false in Nigeria.
This applies equally to Nigerians and foreigners.
PART 1
SUPREMACY OF THE CONSTITUTION
The Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 as amended is the supreme law.
Section 1(3)
Any law, custom, or practice inconsistent with the Constitution is void.
No tradition, family rule, or cultural expectation has legal force where it conflicts with constitutional rights.
PART 2
MARRIAGE IS A FUNDAMENTAL PERSONAL RIGHT
Section 34(1)
Right to dignity of the human person.
Every adult has the right to bodily autonomy, personal choice, and freedom from humiliation or coercion.
This includes the right to reject any marriage condition, ritual, or demand imposed by family or community.
Section 35(1)
Right to personal liberty.
Liberty includes freedom of movement and freedom to choose personal relationships.
No family, elder, or husband has lawful authority to decide whether an adult may marry, stay married, or leave a home.
Language such as “allow her to leave” has no legal meaning.
Section 37
Right to private and family life.
Marriage decisions are private matters between consenting adults.
Family intrusion, cultural enforcement, or community pressure has no constitutional basis.
Section 38(1)
Freedom of thought, conscience, and religion.
Adults may freely choose to marry under statutory law, customary law, religious law, a combination, or none.
They may also freely reject any rite, belief, or cultural process including bride price, introduction, or family approval.
Section 42(1)
Freedom from discrimination.
No adult may be subjected to additional marriage conditions based on gender, tribe, culture, religion, or nationality.
PART 3
THE COUPLE MAY REJECT FAMILY CONSENT, BRIDE PRICE, AND INTRODUCTION
This point is absolute under Nigerian law.
A couple may lawfully reject:
• family consent
• family approval
• bride price
• family introduction
• traditional rites
• elder negotiations
None of these are legal requirements for marriage.
Families have no legal veto power.
Courtesy is optional. Consent is not transferable.
PART 4
THE MARRIAGE ACT IS CLEAR AND EXHAUSTIVE
Marriage Act Cap M6 LFN 2004 governs statutory marriages.
Section 7
Marriage begins when the couple gives notice to the registrar.
No family involvement is required.
Section 11
The registrar issues a certificate once satisfied that both parties are of full age and have freely consented.
Free consent of the couple is the only legal requirement.
Section 34
A marriage celebrated under the Act is valid for all purposes throughout Nigeria.
Section 41
Any person who attempts to prevent a marriage by pretending that their consent is required by law commits an offence.
This includes families, elders, or community members who claim that: • bride price is mandatory
• introduction is compulsory
• family approval is required
• permission must be granted
Such conduct is criminal under Nigerian law.
PART 5
CUSTOMARY LAW IS OPTIONAL AND LIMITED
Customary marriage exists only when voluntarily chosen.
Evidence Act 2011 Section 18(3)
Any custom that is repugnant to natural justice, equity, and good conscience is unenforceable.
Customs that: • force compliance
• restrict exit
• degrade dignity
• treat adults as property
are void.
Case law confirms this:
Osamwonyi v Osamwonyi 1972
Consent is fundamental to all marriages.
Agbeja v Agbeja 1985
Customary marriage must be voluntary.
Meribe v Egwu 1976
Ritual form does not override consent.
Mojekwu v Mojekwu 1997
Oppressive or discriminatory customs are unconstitutional.
Obi v Bosah 2019
Bride price and handing over define customary marriage only when the couple chooses that system.
PART 6
BRIDE PRICE HAS NO LEGAL FORCE
Bride price is cultural only.
It does not: • create marriage
• validate marriage
• transfer authority
• remove autonomy
• restrict exit
Failure to pay bride price does not invalidate a statutory marriage.
Refund of bride price has no effect on statutory marriage.
PART 7
RITUALS AND INTRODUCTIONS ARE NEVER COMPULSORY
Even where a couple voluntarily chooses a traditional marriage:
• no introduction is compulsory
• no ritual is mandatory
• no prostration is enforceable
• no kneeling is compulsory
• no symbolic submission can be imposed
Refusal of any ritual does not invalidate a marriage.
PART 8
INTERNATIONAL LAW BINDS NIGERIA
African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights Cap A9 LFN 2004
Article 2
Equality without discrimination.
Article 6
Right to liberty and security.
Article 18(3)
Protection of family rights without discrimination.
These protections apply to all persons in Nigeria.
PART 9
LEGAL CONSEQUENCES FOR FAMILY INTERFERENCE
Families or community members who:
• attempt to stop a lawful marriage
• demand bride price as a condition
• insist on introductions or rites
• claim authority over adult consent
• restrict movement or exit
are violating the Constitution and the Marriage Act.
Such actions expose them to: • criminal liability under Section 41 of the Marriage Act
• civil liability for rights violations
• court injunctions restraining interference
Culture is not a defence.
PART 10
LANGUAGE THAT EXPOSES ILLEGAL THINKING
Statements such as:
“He should allow her to leave”
“Without us there is no marriage”
“You must beg us”
“You should be grateful we reduced demands”
have no basis in law.
They reflect control logic, not legal authority.
PART 11
FINAL LEGAL POSITION
Under Nigerian law:
Marriage is voluntary.
Consent is personal.
Family consent is optional.
Bride price is optional.
Introduction is optional.
Culture is optional.
Exit cannot be blocked.
Autonomy cannot be transferred.
Any claim to the contrary is legally false.
This is not disrespect to tradition.
It is obedience to the Constitution.

And I didn't write this

Boomark:
Once anyone pays bride price, they are married. Simple and short.

I Corinthians 7:9 NKJV
[9] but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

I am still coming to this part in my teachings.

Any church doctrine or conditions that will prolong or cause any to loose self control is not supported by the scripture.

They do it not knowing they are making people to stumble and fall into sin. This is only for those who feel they need to meet up with all the church and kinsmen requirements.

Read this carefully and hopefully it will educate and remove dark ages myth, you see even Nigeria has human rights.


LEGAL REALITY OF MARRIAGE, BRIDE PRICE, FAMILY AUTHORITY, AND ADULT AUTONOMY IN NIGERIA
This is a statement of law, not culture, not religion, and not opinion.
This post addresses the recurring false claims that:
Families have legal authority over adult marriages
Bride price creates or validates marriage
Cultural rites such as introduction are compulsory
Adults must plead or negotiate for family approval
All four claims are legally false in Nigeria.
This applies equally to Nigerians and foreigners.
PART 1
SUPREMACY OF THE CONSTITUTION
The Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 as amended is the supreme law.
Section 1(3)
Any law, custom, or practice inconsistent with the Constitution is void.
No tradition, family rule, or cultural expectation has legal force where it conflicts with constitutional rights.
PART 2
MARRIAGE IS A FUNDAMENTAL PERSONAL RIGHT
Section 34(1)
Right to dignity of the human person.
Every adult has the right to bodily autonomy, personal choice, and freedom from humiliation or coercion.
This includes the right to reject any marriage condition, ritual, or demand imposed by family or community.
Section 35(1)
Right to personal liberty.
Liberty includes freedom of movement and freedom to choose personal relationships.
No family, elder, or husband has lawful authority to decide whether an adult may marry, stay married, or leave a home.
Language such as “allow her to leave” has no legal meaning.
Section 37
Right to private and family life.
Marriage decisions are private matters between consenting adults.
Family intrusion, cultural enforcement, or community pressure has no constitutional basis.
Section 38(1)
Freedom of thought, conscience, and religion.
Adults may freely choose to marry under statutory law, customary law, religious law, a combination, or none.
They may also freely reject any rite, belief, or cultural process including bride price, introduction, or family approval.
Section 42(1)
Freedom from discrimination.
No adult may be subjected to additional marriage conditions based on gender, tribe, culture, religion, or nationality.
PART 3
THE COUPLE MAY REJECT FAMILY CONSENT, BRIDE PRICE, AND INTRODUCTION
This point is absolute under Nigerian law.
A couple may lawfully reject:
• family consent
• family approval
• bride price
• family introduction
• traditional rites
• elder negotiations
None of these are legal requirements for marriage.
Families have no legal veto power.
Courtesy is optional. Consent is not transferable.
PART 4
THE MARRIAGE ACT IS CLEAR AND EXHAUSTIVE
Marriage Act Cap M6 LFN 2004 governs statutory marriages.
Section 7
Marriage begins when the couple gives notice to the registrar.
No family involvement is required.
Section 11
The registrar issues a certificate once satisfied that both parties are of full age and have freely consented.
Free consent of the couple is the only legal requirement.
Section 34
A marriage celebrated under the Act is valid for all purposes throughout Nigeria.
Section 41
Any person who attempts to prevent a marriage by pretending that their consent is required by law commits an offence.
This includes families, elders, or community members who claim that: • bride price is mandatory
• introduction is compulsory
• family approval is required
• permission must be granted
Such conduct is criminal under Nigerian law.
PART 5
CUSTOMARY LAW IS OPTIONAL AND LIMITED
Customary marriage exists only when voluntarily chosen.
Evidence Act 2011 Section 18(3)
Any custom that is repugnant to natural justice, equity, and good conscience is unenforceable.
Customs that: • force compliance
• restrict exit
• degrade dignity
• treat adults as property
are void.
Case law confirms this:
Osamwonyi v Osamwonyi 1972
Consent is fundamental to all marriages.
Agbeja v Agbeja 1985
Customary marriage must be voluntary.
Meribe v Egwu 1976
Ritual form does not override consent.
Mojekwu v Mojekwu 1997
Oppressive or discriminatory customs are unconstitutional.
Obi v Bosah 2019
Bride price and handing over define customary marriage only when the couple chooses that system.
PART 6
BRIDE PRICE HAS NO LEGAL FORCE
Bride price is cultural only.
It does not: • create marriage
• validate marriage
• transfer authority
• remove autonomy
• restrict exit
Failure to pay bride price does not invalidate a statutory marriage.
Refund of bride price has no effect on statutory marriage.
PART 7
RITUALS AND INTRODUCTIONS ARE NEVER COMPULSORY
Even where a couple voluntarily chooses a traditional marriage:
• no introduction is compulsory
• no ritual is mandatory
• no prostration is enforceable
• no kneeling is compulsory
• no symbolic submission can be imposed
Refusal of any ritual does not invalidate a marriage.
PART 8
INTERNATIONAL LAW BINDS NIGERIA
African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights Cap A9 LFN 2004
Article 2
Equality without discrimination.
Article 6
Right to liberty and security.
Article 18(3)
Protection of family rights without discrimination.
These protections apply to all persons in Nigeria.
PART 9
LEGAL CONSEQUENCES FOR FAMILY INTERFERENCE
Families or community members who:
• attempt to stop a lawful marriage
• demand bride price as a condition
• insist on introductions or rites
• claim authority over adult consent
• restrict movement or exit
are violating the Constitution and the Marriage Act.
Such actions expose them to: • criminal liability under Section 41 of the Marriage Act
• civil liability for rights violations
• court injunctions restraining interference
Culture is not a defence.
PART 10
LANGUAGE THAT EXPOSES ILLEGAL THINKING
Statements such as:
“He should allow her to leave”
“Without us there is no marriage”
“You must beg us”
“You should be grateful we reduced demands”
have no basis in law.
They reflect control logic, not legal authority.
PART 11
FINAL LEGAL POSITION
Under Nigerian law:
Marriage is voluntary.
Consent is personal.
Family consent is optional.
Bride price is optional.
Introduction is optional.
Culture is optional.
Exit cannot be blocked.
Autonomy cannot be transferred.
Any claim to the contrary is legally false.
This is not disrespect to tradition.
It is obedience to the Constitution.

Eniitankorede:
Please go and take your antimalarial before talking to me.

Ill do what I want not what you say
You opinion has no authority over me and all you can do is press block but ill be back after 3 weeks.

Boomark:
Once anyone pays bride price, they are married. Simple and short.

I Corinthians 7:9 NKJV
[9] but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

I am still coming to this part in my teachings.

Any church doctrine or conditions that will prolong or cause any to loose self control is not supported by the scripture.

They do it not knowing they are making people to stumble and fall into sin. This is only for those who feel they need to meet up with all the church and kinsmen requirements.

No, thats not the law thats culture

See, how much you lie about this crap!

DeepSight:
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Maybe I am confused. Anyway, not my business. All I am saying is that what I read from TenQ does not look AI to me, just pretty normal stuff.

Thats the problem with Nigerian men even evidence is denied and accusations with no evidence are believed