₦airaland Forum

Truckpusher:
Op is a deluded fellow for thinking that Engineers in the Oil and Gas industry just sits in their offices doing nothing while the alerts keep coming.


The Oil and Gas Engineering jobs is a daunting task and requires you to be on top of your game every now and then as you would be working across the globe sometimes coming into contact and competing with people of different Nationalities and expertise and again the stress of working for an Oil and Gas major outfit is not for the faint hearted because for every kobo you get from them you probably worked your asss off to earn it.

When next you want to make your assertion, you need to do your home work properly before misleading the people in a public forum.

Nice write up though,but your insinuation about the Engineers in the oil and gas industry is the fallacy of the century.

Wow! I'm not deluded. I only used a case study about the mentality of many undergraduates in relation to the oil/gas sector and what they think happen in this sector. Correction noted all the same. Thanks.

Okijajuju, e remain you!

freshjayy:
First the regulatory bodies of engineering in Nigeria is a waste especially the so called NSE that does not know more dan collecting money from Nigerians and forgetting why they were created in the first place.
Secondly am an engineer in the power sector and I must say government no try, no motivation, no training, poor salary. I schooled in the UK and I know how very attractive the Power jobs are. The government is only paying attention to oil and one day that oil go finish and we would see what next.
We need a government for the future that can harness the potentials of very bright Nigerians not dem PDP that are enriching demselves

If you know how angry I am with this body eh. . .most times, I get an email from them to attend a seminar where I am required to pay #100, 000 - #150, 000 and you wonder, as a student, where am I supposed to get that kind of money from? Looking up their website alone, you will shake your head in pity.

Then again, it is not about PDP as many successive governments in Nigeria have ignored so many sectors. Can we leave anything that will bring a certain people into this thread away?

bushdoc9919:
Another commonsense post on Nairaland!

If our engineers did what the OP is proposing...Nigeria will beome an industrial superpower.

But Nigerians want their share of the oil candy at eight am every morning, thank you very much.

Oil is a CURSE.

(p.s-1.2million naira a month? Are you kidding me?)

It is an assumption. Enjoyed your many inputs. The article about the Dutch disease ish is so so on point.

lomomike:
Feraz, I'm glad you brought this topic up. Its an eye opener and I'm glad about that. I believe this is a wake up call to everyone out there to set sail, achieve something, do something you'll be remembered for. The reason why politicians and job employers still play pranks with graduate and why some of our graduates are looked down upon is because they felt they've studied hard, and now its time to enjoy government money or white collar jobs. This is a worrying trend because I know engineers and other technical based experts are suppose to be on the field coordinating things think deeply and create new things, bring up new innovative stuffs rather than justling for Bank jobs, oil and gas company jobs or other jobs.
I have a friend who is a 1st class engineer still carrying certificates and jumping from one interview to another seeking white collar job. The last time I spoke with him I told him its not where you are employed that matter, what matters is what's your vision, to be a slave or a master, you've got to choose.
Now folks would criticize me for saying out there in the developed world there's no much opportunity to start up something new, grow, expand and become a force to be reckoned with. But trust me, there are much more people in the developed society who are much more experienced than you, have much more at their disposal than you. You are at a greater disadvantage because you're an alien, you're not part of their government's plan. The only advantage you have there is favourable policies.
I recalled back then when I dropped my resignation letter at my parents firm because I wanted to start achieving my dream of going into the building construction industry. They were shocked and offended. But today, I am doing better than they expected.


To you youth corpers, I learnt you guys are now forced to learn Skill Acquisition and Entrepreneurial Development (SAED) think well, don't underestimate that scheme use that NYSC/SAED scheme to your benefit. Get to know more people, acquire as much skills as you can, save some cash, start up something when you're done. Be your employer start from somewhere.

To you Engineers, architects, builders, teachers, scientists, etc wake up stop dreaming and wasting time thinking about working in shell, instead think about how to make a name for your self, carve a niche and people would rush come find you. Let Dangote, MRS oil, mittal steel co pvt., microsoft, globacom, etc be an inspiration for you to break sail and don't let anything, anyone kill your dream. If you can dream it, you can be it.

I just had to write this to encourage people to achieve something.

Thanks boss. This is what I tried letting my classmates know but most times, it looks like I'm talking bunkum.

yemstok:
Nice thread o.p, but that won't stop my dream of working in an oil&gas firm.

I've learnt Never to measure the height of a mountain until you have reached the top. Then you will see how low it was.

Every height is attainable it all depends on ur attitude towards it.

#teamEngineering

The write-up was not aimed at discouraging people from working in the O & G sector or pursuing a career there, but to enlighten most of us of the opportunities we have left to waste away in the other fields of Engineering.

safarigirl:
Oh, like the Nigerian government will have a level playing ground for you with your innovative ideas.

They'll just shove it all under their desks and tell you they'll look into it. This isn't about people not looking towards other aspects of engineering. When you do, they'll choke all your ideas until you're an empty shell

Hence why I said we need to come together and make the Engineering bodies in the nation sit up to create a common front. We cannot continue to be like this.

AjanleKoko:
It's a tough one.
Being an engineer myself, I can relate to the OP's feelings.

However . . . there is no gainsaying the fact that Nigerians are mentally and psychologically lazy, as well as greedy and lacking in personal conviction. So you can't single out the engineering profession.

That is not to say that there are many engineering graduates in Nigeria who desire an opportunity to practise, not necessarily for oil-and-gas type of pay. Since we're not building and making things in Nigeria, there are little options for such people. IT has been an outlet for the last decade and a half, and people have done well in Nigeria here.

I greet you sir! The bolded, that is quite harsh but true (some actually).

Thank you all for contributions.

uchihahinata:
Present sir. Weird combo right??

Very weird.

pickabeau1:
I Agree wit u somewhat but I see the fist fight as a man to man thing

That was the highlight in yesterday's manga for me.

hopelink1:
not bad it's just that you didnt write much about chemical engineers

Sorry about that bro. If I had, the write-up will become too too lengthy than it already is.

Mrkuvuki:
Our Banks are allergic to Tech and startups , they are more eager to give you loan for APC forms

A lot of folks are obsessed with the "plagiarise" word since the linda ikeji debacle, Ignore them and move on...Nice write up bro,I was educated

Thanks mate. I just tire for person. What will it take from me to acknowledge someone else's work? I even made reference to a Nairalander's post in order to buttress further my points. The said lady has not provided a link to anywhere it was written since I challenged her to.

Cutehector4u:
oh goood,.. ,..make sure u come out with good grades ....

Will do. Thank you!

naijareferee:
But i have a few questions for you

1. |Did you finish from a school of technology or just a conventional engineering school?
2. If u did, have you ever taken time to go to the workshop archives of your school
3. what did you design or invent as your final year project
4. Do you think it is lack of innovation that push people into oil and gas
5. For the time you spent in school, has a government ever paid attention to your school final projects

N.B. A faculty mate created a fridge and an oven combo....they work inter-changeably using the just one power source, today it lies in the store of my schools workshop.

1. Nope. Still attend a conventional school
2. I have.
3. Asides lack of innovation, the motivation is not there.
4. Nope. The government has not.

That friend of yours, I wish he had pasted his work here. He may have been noticed.

ezme:
@Feraz... Nice write up, arguments well thought through and should be the ideal picture for a forward thinking society.

I would like to advise you. There is a real world out there, outside UGBOWO, where people make ends meet and fulfill other personal goals. You are getting an education so you can provide. Above all things try to get your grades up (if they not up at the moment). You would understand when you finally get out of school. I don't see the structure you seek falling in place in another 5years, so brace yourself. You may join the bandwagon too, unless you find yourself outside the shores of this country.

Just to correct the notion, people in the oil and gas industry don't just sit in the office and get paid. Engineering project and project execution encompasses alot. The industry has both the operator end and the service end. There are design engineers, project engineers, interface engineers,etc. These ones make mental input to the engineering solution being provided. You don't have to do the dirty jobs all the time before you consider yourself an engineer.

P.S: The handy men are actually technicians

Who be you?
For the second bolded, I once had that mentality but after my Industrial Training with the NN and researches into the field, the mentality had to die down. That was when I realized the potentials in the various fields. For the third bolded, thanks for that. It's just that as an undergraduate, you get to hear funny things from fellow coursemates. Thanks all the same.

2sexi:
eleyi gidi gan o. Are you serious?

I asked her to provide a link from where I copied it from and she is yet to do so.

Cutehector4u:
my apologies.....what course r u studyn?

Mechanical Engineering. . . .

Cutehector4u:
feraz ur write up was too too lenghty and i ddnt get to finish it okk,.i only stopd at the point whr u wrote that we sit down in the office doin nothing and we get fat salaries.... I pray u dnt get to work in the field in an oil and gas industry....cuz people get to loose thr lives tooo...due to accidents...its not a jokin matter..

That's where the misunderstanding came in. Guess it's been cleared. And oh, I have no experience as you said. I'm still an undergraduate.

naijababe:
I think you need t read the post again. No need getting so defensive

Thank you oh!

Cutehector4u:
Who is this human being dats sayn dat oil and gas engineers sit down in d office doin nohin and at the end of the day they will collect 1.2million naira... R u crazy?

1. The amount there is just an assumption and not a fact.
2. That is the mentality some undergraduates have.
3. I appealed and said 'if there's anything I am ignorant about in the above write-up, please, do correct me as I am still acquiring knowledge'.

Chrisbenogor:
One of those things that needs to be driven from the top.

Exactly why I made mention of the two Engineering bodies in the write-up. How do we go about it and make them realise they're not living up to what they claim they stand for?

hollandis, I'm still waiting for the links

hollandis:
The op is copy and paste guru,plagiarism specialty

I'd appreciate you provide any links to where this was first published since you feel it was plagiarised. The last topic I created before this one, I put up a link so why will this be any different if it was copied from a website?

firestar:


Royal Rumble.

Na real royal rumble. . .

uchihahinata Hmmmm. . . .

firestar:
Anyone noticed what their brawl did to the opposing statues at the Valley of the End. ....?
...
First time seeing Naruto letting Sasuke have it. All the while its Naruto getting beaten like it's his heritage.

But Sasuke, that pale complexion won't remain so, not for long.

....

Of course, the heads were off the bodies. If they had fought on land, I'm not sure the land would have survived such scale.

First, see the magnitude of destruction caused by both techniques; an unprecedented feat in the Naruto world.

Second, they both went back to basics such as shuriken throwing and taijutsu.

Third, Kishimoto is playing mind games with us. Of course, he wants us to believe some Madara and Hashirama element may be there like the clone ish everyone is shouting but knowing how unpredictable he and Naruto is, it's likely that Naruto may use his real body and then a clone will finish Sasuke off or he may sacrifice himself to finish Sasuke off without a clone.

My best part, the blows Sasuke received. . . That was epic to me. . .

How are we BTW?

Johnnoo:
@Feraz; Nice and challenging write-up you got, but let me ask you a simple question; will prefer made in Nigeria product to that of foreign product for your personal use (Pls be honest)

Of course, needs differ. . . In terms of technological needs, I'd go foreign because we're still not at that stage but in terms of basic needs like clothes, shoes etc., I'd go Nigerian. How is the above related to this topic BTW?

Deefuray:
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Hall 2. . .

*Parks my car here*

mikkyangel:
130+ 20....150

Is your commission included?

Please, check this one out for me and tell me what all is gonna cost

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nokia-Lumia-928-White-32GB-Factory-Unlocked-AT-T-T-Mobile-Verizon-Clean-ESN-/221582549275?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item339759611b#shpCntId

rioemmanuel:
why is this thread yet to make front page
Seun,CrazyMan,1forall...pls move it to frontpage

I still don't understand why it isn't so. . .

trishguy:
if it is verizon it wont work with nigerian network carriers since its a cdma phone and we use gsm in nigeria

Oh. . . I see. So it's better looking out for either T-mobile or AT&T then?

baba11:
You really nail your points on the head but I,as a fellow engineer, I know the challenges we are facing... even if you are well equipped theoretically and practically for the tasks..the environment is so so non-conduicive to achualise your dreams.
This reminds me of a particular guy I know in the varsity
He was the most studious among us
He hardly played with us
He didn't joke
24/7,he was with his book reading except if he wanted to go to mosque and pray
When I asked him about what he wanted to achieve,he told me many aspirations but alas when I saw him some weeks ago,he was not doing anyone of them
The worst was that he doesnt't apply any of his aspirations
Imagine!!! What's he going to do when the structures are not on ground for him??
We can't kill ourselves nah!!!
All in all,God bless Nigeria.....
Buhari all the way...............

Boss, I appreciate. In as much as I'm grateful for your contribution, this is not a thread to campaign for anybody but one to discuss the way forward for the field - Engineering as a developing nation. I'd appreciate you leave it at that.

cryptography:
i enjoyed this article......... mindset overhaul is the fundamental solution to the decadence of the engineering field

Thanks man! Mindset overhaul as you said is what we need as a solution to this appalling decadence.

Mankind greatest scientific achievement was not discovering Oil/Gas, neither was it solving a legal case of over 20 years or more... It was landing on the moon; an Engineering feat...ponder on this. . . .

Khalidsarki:
hi feraz. Pls do u knw hw i can from 3G to 2G on lumia 630. . .my bro own one buh he can't change to 2G and i want to buy xame phne next week buh diz prob is discouragin me

He should go to settings, then cellular network, then SIM settings, select network type - 2G or 3G. I can't remember the sequence again.

kinesis:
what network is it locked to?

Either AT and T, Verizon or T-mobile. I haven't gotten it though. . .just wanna know before getting it. . .but it's likely to be Verizon since I am eyeing a Lumia 928

Elxandre:
Developer unlock?
That's not difficult, just google it.
Take note that some methods allow you to install 2,5 to 10 cracked apps with the maximum being ten apps.

Ok. . .thanks!

Who knows where fairly used lumia phones are sold?

Kinesis, can you unlock a Lumia phone?

Who here can unlock a Lumia phone?

ycmdng:
Try send the IMEL no when you get it. Let me try my best from his end.

Do you charge for unlocking the phone? Hope you'll be able to help me as I'm planning to buy a used one from eBay? A Lumia 928 or Lumia 925 precisely?

xenation:
can bbm work on lumia 520

I guess. Ask uj-sizzle or visit the windows users forum thread.

crudedude:
Nice topic. Just too long.

I can help you edit next time for free chief. I'm good with the backspace button

Prolly next time ...but I still don't mind you reading it all. . .
Mods, make una do the needful. . .

JAkpayen:
Feraz you earn my respect. But this mentality actually start from the school where we are taught to get good grades (even by crooked means except few schools), get our dream job, and live the good life. @OP, for the country to achieve what you stated then we must individually make self-sacrifice and avoid only-me attitude.

Thanks man!

This is why we need to enlighten people of our field while also showing them the opportunities that abound therein. We can't keep depending on a particular commodity to develop. As for the only-me attitude, you're very correct. We need to learn to work as a team in achieving great things.

Crazyman, Obinoscopy, do the needful. . .