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ogbame007:
I just finished playing modern combat 3 on android

Tried my hands on FP shooters like Battlefield Bad Company and Deus Ex: The Fall and currently have Call of Duty:Strike Team on my laptop but have never really had one that blew me away, I dislike it even more since most of them are online games like MC5: blackout

I favour 3ps games, cyberpunk/sci-fi games & action adventure games. Just finished Gemini Rue from wadjeteye games and before that Lara Croft GO from square enix

Twitter: @ManFila_SP

When the topic of Rape comes up in public discourse, magority of us only think in one direction...the guy is the aggressor and the girl is the victim. I for one have never really bought into this line of thought but thankfully more and more Male Rape survivors are speaking out about it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3331968/Male-rape-victim-reveals-attack-ex-girlfriend-left-feeling-weak-pathetic.html


MALE RAPE: THE FACTS
A study conducted in England has found that 3%of males surveyed had experienced non-consensual sex as adults.Police crime figures for England and Wales show there were 3,580 rapes against men in 2014.Although the majority of perpetrators are male, men can be sexually abused by women. However this is not defined as rape under UK law.Erection and ejaculation are physiological responses that can result from physical contact and even extreme stress. They don't imply the victim experienced pleasure.

Hello people, with the advent of smart phones running Android, Windows and IOS it would seem that Java OS has all but gone extinct but I don't want to believe that.

I for one still have a Java OS phone (Nokia Asha 210) and I favor Book Applications on it.

Who else out there still uses Java OS phones and reads Jar Format Books on it like me?
Come on in and lets talk.

charlezok:
I am a 36 year old man in pretty good shape, 6'2" and good looking. I am a very affectionate and loving person, but my wife is not. I am always the one to initiate sex, hugs, kisses, or any type of physical contact. I don't understand why she's so cold to me. I love her with all my heart, but she is breaking me down. I have tried doing more of the housework, working out 5 days a week, anything I could think of to get her more interested in me but nothing works. She tells me that she loves me, but she doesn't make me feel loved at all. I want her to want to be with me without me asking her too. We have 2 kids that I am committed to being here for, so I am at a loss as to what I should do. Sorry for rambling, but a brother needs help here.

@ Charlzok

You are a 36 y/o man so i will take the risk to assume you have the prerequisite level of maturity to handle a no holds barred assesment of your post. Ok , here goes.

In a manner of speaking you have answered your own question. You have followed the textbook example of what society expects from a 'good man' but like most good men you have given all these fine qualities to a woman who is not worth it.

You say she does not make you feel loved at all but i put it to you brother that her attitude to you did not just manifest overnight, she must have displayed signs of this tendency during your dating/courting period but you likely chose to ignore the red flags or even worse you didn't see the red flags as red flags at all!

My father pulled me aside one day and gave me some valuable advise which more young men should recieve before they get married.
He said 'My son, whatever you know in your heart you can never tolerate when you are married, Never Ever tolerate it while you are dating!'

The rationale behind the statement is simple, our dating life with our partners is a practice run for what married life with them will be like. If you notice a bad trait in your partner and rather than raising the issue with them you make excuses for it or tell yourself ' it will change after we get married' then you are simply your own worst enemy and you are not walking in wisdom.

Concerning your wife, think back to your dating days . did she ever go out of her way to do anything for you just because she 'cares' for you? Did you get into the habit of taking care of her without thinking that she should also return the favor? If you are brutally honest with yourself you will see that you laid the foundation for what you are experiencing now during your dating days.

You did not set a standard of positive behaviour that you expect from her for being a good boyfriend but rather you rewarded her for not pulling her wieght in the relationship by marrying her! Yikes!!! And now the result of that is clear, she has everything she wants or might want in the future because you have made it your 'duty' to give it to her .

1) she wants a good looking guys, who keeps himself fit and trim unlike those other naija guys , CHECK

2) she wants a hard working husband to handle things around the house, CHECK

3) she wants a baby, DOUBLE CHECK

4) she wants a domesticated guy who does house chores , CHECK

5) she wants a guy who makes it clear that he will do whatever it takes to please her, even thou she doesn't give a rats ass about him, CHECK

My brother , do you see the pattern here? You have sold yourself short BIG TIME!

A popular saying goes ' Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?'

My brother it is time to take your destiny into your own hands. It is time for you to go back to basics and rebuild yourself again.

1) keep working out and stay in shape but don't do it for her, do it for yourself b'cos you deserve to be the best you can be.

2) keep being a good father to the kids, develop a solid relationship with them.

3)Raise the issue with an authority figure in her life, her parents, her pastor.....lay down the story from A to Z , don't sugar coat it, let them know where you are coming from.

4) you have already raised the issue with her but do it again from a position of strength not from a beggarly mindset .Ask her what she wants from the marriage and what if anything she feels is still lacking then also tell her your own expectations from the marraige and how your deepest needs are not being met and how she can remedy that state.

4) when all else fails , serve her with DIVORCE PAPERS. You derserve to be happy ,life is to short to spend your days in emotional hell .

Shalom.

justmag:
I totally agree with you. At some point in my life I used to chase women but the moment I stopped my phone call log changed! I kno that may sound really cocky but I SWEAR it's the truth.

@ justmag

That's because you decided to STOP giving yourself away CHEAPLY ! You developed SELF RESPECT and stopped BEGGING for affection from gals.

Kudos to you Bro! Now go forth and teach your brothers still wallowing in the darkness of their own ignorance!

rubey:
Mr "one of us" he still call back later that day

@ rubey

Didn't you say it yourself 'God saved her sha' lucky for her that this guys 'tolerance' level is still high but if she had been with a guy who has enough 'battle scars' from playing hard to get gals, she will wait for his call from now till the second coming!

rubey:
And they keep hoping for the guy to call, like a friend of mine did. She couldn't call a guy that took her out and she just kept disturbing the rest of us asking "that he should have called by now" but still she didn't call. It makes her looks stupidd

@ rubey

Stupid is just the word! The last time I checked a phone let's you make a call to someone you actually want to speak with ,not just to receive calls from them :/
I suspect that Guy is one of us who has wised up and is not interested in 'chasing', better things to do with his time and energy!

justmag:
My thinking is simple. A girl should atleast do a courtesy call to see if you got home safe if you have to do the entire driving for the duration of the date while Considering the bad drivers, bad roads and all the bad things that can happen on nigerian roads. Think of a place like lagos! I don't think it should matter if it's the first or second date!

In nigeria With these parasites (girls) in circulation?? Good luck trying to get a girl to pay for a date. I have had a girl pay for a date but not under those conditions.

@ Justmag

Like I said, it's a good way to weed out broke @ss chop and clean mouth gals. A balanced relationship is give and take, I spend on her she spends on me, it's 50-50 bro

P.S there are a few classy gals out there bro, she's making her money and is not interested in leeching on any guy. Trust me gals like that will have no issues with paying for a date. My cuz is dating one right now.

@ topic

We need more clarity! Is this a first date or third date or what? Depending on the level of interaction between them this question will have two different answers.

As for me, I am willing to let it slide if such occur after a first date but if a girl did call me after the first date to ask after me , she would score very highly in my approval ratings
However if a girl didn't bother to call after the third date, that will be a major thumbs down for her!

My personal rule is that the girl should initiate and pay for the third date. Any girl who has an issue with that is just hanging with you for trips and a free meal.
Making it clear that you expect her to initiate and pay for date number 3 is a good way to quickly weed out broke @ss chop and clean mouth girls.

Use this tactic my brothers and thank me later

Watched this movie just yesterday, I was also a big fan of the Samurai-X anime that it is based on. I give the movie a thumbs up!

nahinbdis:
This is a rather sensitive matter, but my relative inexperience leaves me no choice.

My wife is 32 and I am 29 and we have been married for just over a year. She was a virgin when we got married and I was more or less same. So we are both relatively inexperienced. Our sex life has been like a fairy tale; simply fantastic. The only challenge right now is that she has a higher libido than I do and because she loves the way I do it, she wants it every day.

She has just finished an academic programme and so not currently working. I work in the banking industry and leave home by 5am and return by 9.30pm; and by then am practically worn out and not exactly in the mood for a session of loving. Right now, wifey is quite pissed about this and we have a discussion slated for this evening.

So am wondering what I can do to increase my energy level. I try energy drinks sometimes, but I guess that’s not a very healthy thing to do consistently. Am also wondering how I can best manage this situation, because demanding as she may sometimes be, I don’t want her to change.

@ Nahinbidis

Guy, on a serious note this does not have to be a problem. You just need to equip yourself with good information.

My Analysis of your post goes like this

1) There is no need for your wifey to kick up a fuss, if she wants more s3x than both of you are having now then she is better off raising the issue with you in a non-confrontational way, with a mind to finding a solution that works for both of you. Bank work is usually very demanding and the long hours are no joke, is it really a surprise to her that you're tired when you get home? With all due respect to you seeing as she's your wife and all but I would have expected better reasoning power from a 32 year old!

2) She apparently has a lot of time on her hands, is she a stay-at-home wife? If not then what is stopping her from getting a J.O.B ? Chances are that when she's putting in time on a 9 to 5 job every day she will be more understanding of your position

3) MANY women walk around with the false stereotype that us guys are s3x machines with a permanent hard on.
MANY of them are so IGNORANT that they don't realize that us guys have feelings too, we need sweet words too, we need to be touched in the right places too, in short MANY naija Women don't give their man GOOD pre-intimacy !!! They are like Wham! Bam!! Thank You Sam!!!
Don't be afraid to tell Wifey what you need to get in the mood, even if it's just for a Quickie

4) When you and wifey have S3x, is she 'Active' or just a LAZY Spectator? Both of you should pick a day, get on the Net together and Google 'S3x Female dominant Positions'. Your wifey is obviously not doing her fair share in Bed, good LOVEMAKING is about give and take for both partners but right now you are doing all the giving and wifey is doing all the taking! She should be interested not just in getting pleasure from you but also in giving you pleasure as well!

In summary, your wifey needs to see this as a WE issue not a YOU issue I.e WE have an issue in our s3x life, what can WE do about it?
Wifey needs to get a JOB sharply! Less idle time on her hands for 24/7 s3x and more money for your young family, now that's a Win Win situation !
Use more of Female Dominant S3x positions , wifey can ride for as long as she wants and you can conserve your energy

Kindly apply the above and report back to the house

chic2pimp:
Nope. More like I sight a Pretty looking Lady whilst She also sees an incredibly Buff looking Young Chap with charm to light up a room(which I am if I might say so myself). Both our eyes connect and it's pretty obvious we both fancy the pants off each other. Why should I be the one to do the "Chasing, Wooing" or what have you when it is clear she stands to benefit more from the interaction? That's what I am driving at.

Now this Guy right here has something that a lot of us guys need more of ... It's called SELF RESPECT !!!

He refuses to come to the relationship table with a beggarly mindset, he values himself too much to let one funny gal waste his TIME and ENERGY.

I can't believe some male posters on this thread! Waiting 3 months, 6 months , 1 year plus !!! Don't even get me started about that guy that was spending on the Gal like ATM. Jeeeezus ! I don't know if I should laugh or cry for these guys.

If I have said it once then I've said it a thousand times to my Nairaland brothers .
RECIPROCITY is key, if you are doing all the work(chasing) and she's catching all the fun then you have missed it from the get go.

Relationship is a two way street , if I'm putting in effort to be with a Gal you better believe I expect her to put in effort to be with Me as well, I don't give myself CHEAPLY to any Gal

2SWT:
If he doesn't feel jealous, then he's with another lady

@ 2swt

So, are you admitting that you deliberately try to get your guy jealous?

If so then the answer I gave to Chizzy above applies to you as well !!!

Chizzy20:
i wil b bothered cos it shows he doesnt really care cos if he really luvs u he wil guard nd protect wat belongs to him.

@ Chizzy

It's ironic that you say it that way
'if he loves you he will protect what belong to him'

The truth of the matter is if you are trying to deliberately make him jealous by flirting or allowing other guys to flirt with you in his presence , you are indirectly saying that you don't belong to him, you are announcing to him and to the world that you are a 'free agent'

Now to be sure many guys will react jealously and try to 'corner' you ,which from your post I deduce is the kind of response you want from a guy but more experienced guys will simply observe you quietly and start making preparations to REPLACE YOU since you are showing him that you have too many guys chasing you.

Sharp guy like that does not have time to beg any girl to be with him, he values his time and his dignity too much to put up with that crap!

A mature girl does not play games with her guy. She understands that in as much as she asks the guy to commit to her fully then the responsibility is on her to show him that there is no other guy distracting her attention from him.

" I don't chase 'em , I replace 'em " -
Lyrics from the song ,One more chance. By The Notorious B.I.G

Mprex:
Whoever initiated the date will pay the bills

@ mprex

On the surface the above would look like a fair statement but when you consider that MANY girls who make this statement NEVER initiate dates, you will understand that it is just lip service

This is their line of thought
'Anybody who asks for a date should pay! It's fair that way!
P.S I'm a girl, I shouldn't initiate dates, that's the guys job !'

So who is fooling who?!

CuteEmma:
Nairalander, who do You think Should Pay on a date? The man or The Girl or spilled? I make my boyfriend pay when we eat on a date. I usually Just leave the TIP.

@ emma

1) How many times have you initiated a date?
2) How many times have you payed for a date(that you initiated?)

You 'make' your boyfriend pay for the date but you drop the Tip for the waiter,....hmmm, how generous of you :/

If a girl can't find it within herself to initiate a date, pay for the date and actually be happy to do it for me every other day the way I do same for her then we are not going to be dating for long.

No time for broke @$$ , thirsty girls

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kristina1:
If a guy ask a gal out,he cant be seen as desperate or cheap,but reverse is d case with a gal.

@ kristina

Wow... Is it really possible to be so uninformed !?

You say it's never possible for a guy to be seen as being 'desperate'... Where do you think the slang 'woman wrapper' comes from? , when guys throw gifts and trips at gals what do you think that is about?
Is that not desperation? (If I don't take her out for trips,gifts she will leave me!)

When guys proposes a gal and she starts with the testing and shakara for him, putting him through all kinds of crap in the name of 'playing hard to get' but the guy still allow himself to be subject to that kind of rubbish ... Is that guy not giving himself away cheaply?

What about my DIGNITY and my PRIDE as a guy? Does it matter in the eyes of gals at all? Oh..that's right, I forgot. A gals pride is worth more than diamonds but a guys pride is worth less than spit on the floor !!!

You simply find it hard to step out of your comfort zone and view this issue from a guys point of view.

Zeemoor:
I have a friend who'd walk up to a guy and tell him she likes him if she truly does
I tried it twice but I dare not try it again
The first time wasn't a good experience
I ended up making a fool of myself
~
See, we were taught, right from birth to patiently wait for a man worthy of us
We were even told not to show it if we are really into a guy so as not to appear cheap
My mum's BP would have been over the roof if I told her I walked up to a guy

@ zeemor

I won't mince words to tell you that I give kudos to that your friend more than you!!!

Why? Because she's a 'go getter'. A wise man once said 'There are 3 kinds of people in this world. Those who make things happen, Those who watch things happen and Those who ask... What happened?'

Your friend is definitely in the first group. She is not waiting for a good thing to fall into her lap, she is grabbing it with both hands but you on the other hand......... Well, I reserve my comment

There is something about a girl who announces that she is waiting for a guy who is 'worthy' of her to come along, the question that always pops into my head is this 'When this guy that you feel is 'worthy' of you comes along .... What makes you think he will automatically believe that YOU are 'worthy' of HIM ?

Have you even thought about that?

kristina1:
It takes a great deal of boldness to disclose such,if at the end of the day,the feeling is not returned,the effect is going to be disastrous.

@ kristina1

That's right... It takes a great deal of boldness to put your feelings out there to someone you care about and when that feeling is not returned it leaves a mark on your heart. This is something us guys know a lot about.

Most Gals will give all the excuses in the world about why they can't express themselves to guys they care about but the underlining truth is that they are COWARDS... This is not me bashing gals, this is me calling a spade a spade.

Think about it for a minute... An earlier poster said gals need to step up their game and your defence was the quote above.
You may not realize it but what you have implicitly said is 'It's ok for gals to be cowards but at the same time demand that any guy who wants be with her must be BOLD'.
You also imply the following 'It's ok for guys to be subjected to the emotional pain of rejection time and time again but as a Gal i must be accepted automatically because I 'summoned' the liver to smile at a guy !!! If I as a Gal get 'rejected' once then that is proof that Gals should never,ever make the first move !!!

Can you see the double standard us guys are subjected to? What is good for the goose is also good for the gander!

Equal rights means Equal risks as well !!!

Intacta:
because when God created Eve, she waited patiently to b noticed by Adam..

@ intacta

Like....seriously? You must be reading a 'custom made' bible . The versions that the rest of the world is reading didn't say nothin' about Eve sitting on her @ss waiting for Adam but hey you know what? Whatever rocks your boat girl !!!

AgapeCharis:
and even if its d guy dt initiated d meeting
Must he pay??

@ agape

Bros, that is a question for another day, I am keeping my comments to the matter on ground today

adepiero:
May you live long for this comment!

imagine the foolish Post above you! so sad its coming from a guy

OP! craze dey the girl head, after entertaining her, she still has the guts to ask for money! na free them give you chivita?

If you date that kind girl, she'll always ask for pay after sex o! #Beware

@ ade

You're right, very sad that a number us guys have that mindset... It is guys like that who enable the 'thirsty' gal behavior.

If us guys don't tolerate it then the behavior can't thrive! NL brothers Wise up!!!

chukwumanj:
Let me give you my story.....
Amara is one very close friend of mine who I hadn't seen in over 3 years now, lives and schools in the same town I do, though I have her contact and I'm connected with her on social media we just haven't been relating like that for some reasons known to her. So yesterday she just brought up the idea of meeting again due to the fact that it has been really long. Maybe she just wanted to see my face I had no idea. Ok na so what happens was......
I asked which will suite her better, that I come over to her place or she comes to mine, she said coming to my place was a better idea. It costs a trip of 400 bucks. So this morning by 7am I canceled the meeting cos I had my guys come over to my place and I felt her coming over might be awkward as well......
So I changed my mind. My guys and I went out to a bar (which is actually a very cool and serene place with no too much noise) close to my house. Then I called her phone and asked the chick if she could still come this afternoon and to my surprise she said yes. Ok oh, in a few hours she landed. Upon coming to the bar and meeting me and my friends I did the usual protocols na.... Offered her a pack of Chivita juice and we gisted well about our past. So as it was getting late we thought it's time to go home. So I put her in a keke that will take her straight to her doorstep and even paid her transport back. To my surprise she asked for a refund of the money she used in coming oh... shooo!
And I was like "what do you mean?" (in a soft manner) then she said "don't worry".
Do you know that I got home and this girl now called me and telling me that I should have used my sense to know that I'm supposed to pay for her? Telling me that the money she used in coming was her sister's money.
So abeg I'm confused with all these that happened here, I just felt I should post this my experience, lemme know if it's just me or is it the girl that is crazy? Cos I honestly did not even know what to reply her over the phone.

@ topic

She was the one who suggested the meet, she was the one who said coming to the OP's area was more convenient for her.

When they meet the OP observes good protocol ,introduction to guy friends and refreshments for her.

This gal now turns around to ask for t-fare 'refund'!? Says she 'borrowed' money from her sister to come... And so what!? Nah the OP send her message?

To add insult to injury she has the gall to call OP later that night to yab him on top of her 'thirsty girl' behavior?! Kaiii !!!

OP this gal is a leech!!! Her own 'friendship' is 'pay as you go' .you should have cut her out of your life when she showed herself like this, why you still want still want to remain 'friends' with a broke @$$ fake gal like that is beyond me!

God save us guys from 'thirsty' gals SMH!!!

kendraloops:
That's why i asked you to educate me bro. Just hearing this ever(yea!). You don't have to be harsh about it. And my post wasn't referring to all guys, i said some. Same way not all women are shy about making the first move.

Thanks for the information though it was passed with the intent to ridicule.

@ kendra

If I came across as too harsh... My bad not trying to knock you down really but I'm happy you were able to look past my alleged 'ridicule' and pick the message even If you didn't care much for the messenger, kudos to you for that

Just as you were passionate about pointing out SOME guys who are all about their needs , I was also passionate about pointing out that SOME gals are sooo clueless,thinking they are Gods gift to men in bed.

Hopefully you will educate yourself better and your gal friends who still think that way

kendraloops:
Pardon my ignorance, but can guys fake org@sm? Thought once they come, that's it! Educate me please. As for guys going straight to the point, i know what I'm saying. A woman's make up is diff from that of a guy. Once junior is up, guys are good to go but its diff for a lady. Have you ever tried having sex with a lady who's very dry "down there?" How did it feel??

The brain controls most of these things so when the woman knows all the guy's gonna come n do is hump away, she doesnt bother trying to stimulate her senses cos she knows there's nothing in it for her.

For a long time, men have been known to lead while the woman follows. The woman would lead only if she knows its gonna be worthwhile. By worthwhile, i dont mean she must reach 0rgasm(how many women even do sef) but there should be some sort of satisfaction for her. please face it, some guys are just damn selfish in bed.
their slogan is " so far i come, nothing concern me"

@ kendra

Just as I suspected , ignorance truly is bliss for girls isn't it?

If you read my post you would note that I said us guys have been bashed about being selfish lovers for generations and because of that we have had to become Professors in the act,swallow pills(Viagra,Cialis) and concoctions (man-power drink etc) just so we can make girls happy with us in bed if men were all as uncaring as you paint us then why would we put ourselves through that crap?!

You are one of the girls who still thinks 'if he ejaculated then he 0rgasmed, hah! Outdated thinking!
If both of us made love and your body went through a natural process of releasing one of your eggs through your falopian tube into your ovum and I told you that it was 'proof' that you had 0rgasmed how would you react? Probably laugh your @ss off at my blatant ignorance! So imagine what I did when I read what you posted about when guys 'come'

In men 0rgazm and ejaculation are TWO separate events not one and the same. Just because I ejaculated doesn't mean you rocked my world honey!!! Get over yourself

As far as faking 0rgasms goes, it that into the false mindset I just explained above. Us guys KNOW you girls still think our ejaculation is proof of 0rgasm. So we simply tap into that mindset, it really isn't so hard

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2344662/Yes-men-fake-Astonishing-true-Here-brave-men-confess-all.html

It's one of our best kept secrets. You gals think you know us inside out and us guys ALLOW you to wallow in your ignorance because how do you teach a gal who thinks she knows it all?

kendraloops:
For some women, it might simply be due to their orientation or how they've been handled in past relationships. They might have been taught that a woman's place is just to receive and never to initiate, if not, she'll be termed a "loose" woman. Such person might carry that into her marriage and it will take a while before she can shake off such wrong behaviour.

Hubby has to be patient and also watch out for signs she might give. The "I'm tired, i have headache" excuse most women give is because they ain't looking foward to having sex mainly because oga just "goes straight to the point". No pre-intimacy, nothing nothing. He just wants direct entry, lol.

@ kendra

Fine ,you make a point about wrong mindset from the girl coming into the marriage but as I said in an earlier post, such issues should be ironed out by the couple before signing the dotted lines.

You talk about men just going 'straight to the point' and all with no thought for madam, us men have been bashed about that for generations by girls and a lot of us have had to become professors in the act, swallowing pills and concoctions just so they can satisfy madam!

Let me shock you by telling you that a lot of girls are also guilty of being LAZY sexually, they only care about their own satisfaction as far as they care they MUST have multiple orgasm or he is not 'man enough' but these same girls are so bad in bed they have never given a man an orgasm even one time.
These girls are so ignorant they think ejaculation and orgasm in men is the same thing! They don't even know that us guys fake orgasm with them because they are so bad in bed!

So my dear before you point finger at guys, you will be surprised that you are also guilty of being bad in bed!

@ topic

Any marriage in which the initiation of lovemaking comes from the husband end alone is wrong in my opinion.

As someone stated in an earlier post, such things should have been settled before the couple sign the dotted lines. Woe betide any guy who does not do his homework and ensure he is not taking a sexless, frigid girl into his house!

He will end up being treated like the husband in the OP.

For the sake of clarity 'doing my homework' entails asking pointed questions and being able to read between the lines of any answer given. But even after this I pay more attention to girls actions or inaction as the case my be.

1) Does she initiate dates?
2) Does she pay for dates?
3) If she loves chocolate and the guy buys a chocobar then breaks it into two unequal halves then asks her to choose one, would she give him the Bigger piece at least 2 times out of 5 ?

These are just a few things I personally check for with any girl I'm dating as the help to tell me if she is completely self centered or not. The act of initiating lovemaking is an act of giving oneself to your partner as such a selfish girl will never be a wife that initiates lovemaking.

My 2 kobo