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Gabrielshow24:
Nope it's not🙃.
Are you so disinclined that you are not aware of various writing tools and agents equipped with generative writing capabilities? Must everything be ChatGpt to you🤦🏾‍♂️? If I want, i can allow the extension to take over from this moment on and the tone of my message will change🤨, hence I have no need to copy and paste like omoawoke🤧.

You're artificially generating content here that's being presented as if they were from your own thoughts. And you're well aware that this is happening. It's not happening without your knowledge.

So it's irrelevant whether you're using ChatGPT, LLM extension or whatever tool. You're still relying on it to generate your comments. And that's the bottom line.

Sleep never catch you yet? Abi e don comot for your eye?

Gabrielshow24:
Check your write-up and stop playing ignorant!

No problem. We'll revisit the topic when you stop trolling and do the needful.

Gabrielshow24:
I'm afraid, I will have to cut this conversation short as it is going nowhere!

Yeah, sure. 🙄

Gabrielshow24:
You didn't accuse him of hypocrisy when he 'looked down' on others while using GPT.
He made all sorts of claims to aggrandize intellectual wisdom to himself—your voice wasn't heard!

I already told you I don't have a problem with people using GPT. I have a problem with people using GPT and OUTRIGHTLY LYING that they're not using GPT. 🤧

Gabrielshow24:
I used an LLM extension to complete my write up—in calling him out🤔—not as an evidence or a source of truth. There came your hoary head shouting hypocrisy!!!

How is this not relying on AI? 🤦🏽

I'll wait for the next round of gymnastics.

Gabrielshow24:
Goodnight, when you have a better thing to discuss, kindly hit me up! You know where to find me🙃

It's fine. I wasn't expecting any tangible reply anyway. Goodnight. 👍🏽

Gabrielshow24:
Can you not read? 🤔
What didn't you generalize?

If you know what I generalized, then it shouldn't be so difficult to point it out. 🤷🏽

Gabrielshow24:
I don't use GPT hence I have no need to cite it!

Okay, so this isn't ChatGPT then?

Gabrielshow24:
Ah, the self-proclaimed arbiter of intellect graces us with his presence! 🌟 It’s amusing how you claim to engage with 'high intellect' while simultaneously resorting to insults rather than substantive debate. But let’s not forget your earlier promise to provide evidence to dismantle the plausibility of the Tower of Babel.

You were tasked with properly dating the Tower and presenting evidence of languages that predate that period. Yet here you are, more focused on belittling others than actually delivering on that challenge. It seems your lofty claims of intelligence are as empty as your arguments!

You may think you’re above the fray, but true intellect isn’t just about throwing around insults; it’s about engaging with ideas and backing them up with solid evidence. So, while you eliminate those you deem 'dull,' perhaps take a moment to reflect on your own contributions—or lack thereof. After all, it’s easy to feel superior when you’re standing on a pedestal of your own making, but real wisdom lies in humility and the willingness to learn from others.

So, let’s see that evidence you promised! Or will you continue to hide behind your self-inflated ego? 🤔

Gabrielshow24:
Next time, you don't hastily generalize!
If indeed, you had followed the conversation you would have known who the real hypocrite was!

What did I generalize? Can you answer?

Gabrielshow24:
Also, you can go to the thread he opened and see whether I used AI in any of my interactions!

If he lacks the proper education that he can't do without AI that's his problem not mine!
Even when we had discourse the other day,🤔 did I use AI? Where is this stemming from?

I called him out to provide evidence 🤨 using suggestions to make my task faster yet here we are, you didn't accuse him of being intellectually dishonest and an hypocrite for looking down on others while using AI but you can accuse me🤨!

Indeed, you have something useful to say! Arbiter of hypocrisy! 🤣🤣🤣

But he was open from the beginning that he was using AI.

Did you cite ChatGPT in any of the posts you copied? 🙂

By the way, spamming laughing emojis just makes you look desperate. Let's keep the conversation mature. I don't know why you're getting so defensive.

Gabrielshow24:
That's a lie. My posts are not written by AI from start to finish. Let's do a litmus test, perform the same analysis on my quotes on this thread—Let's start from here!

Also, what you wrote is clearly an exaggeration! My point being his over reliance on AI to dismiss biblical narratives😅! He said we lacked critical thinking, some thing that stems from using the muscle of the mind—which is also hypocritical coming from him!🤣

What do you mean by "suggestions from extension is very funny"?🤣🤣 Do you know how many extensions that are powered by LLMs? Stop capping rubbish!

Once again, If you have anything "useful" to say, kindly do so!

What's getting you so worked up? 🙂

Gabrielshow24:
That's a lie. My posts are not written by AI from start to finish. Let's do a litmus test, perform the same analysis on my quotes on this thread—Let's start from here!

I wasn't exactly referring to this thread when I said you had posts entirely copied from AI. When I said your posts, I was speaking of certain posts scattered across other sections here.

I mean, I've only seen one here copied from AI on this particular thread, but do I really need to see more?

Gabrielshow24:
Also, what you wrote is clearly an exaggeration! My point being his over reliance on AI to dismiss biblical narratives😅! He said we lacked critical thinking, some thing that stems from using the muscle of the mind—which is also hypocritical coming from him!🤣

Okay? So you decided to challenge him by copying from AI too? 🤔

Gabrielshow24:
Once again, If you have anything to say, kindly do so!

I'm really just trying to understand the logic behind using AI to tell another person that he lacks critical thinking skills for using AI.

I mean, if he said that you guys lack critical thinking skills, don't you think the worst way to reply to him would be by using AI? Won't you technically be proving him right in an absurd twist? 🤔

Gabrielshow24:
it goes to show, I am living rent free in your head 😂. Is there anything I said that suggested hypocrisy?

I didn't paint the use of AI as bad, only its total reliance—A lot of people use AI on this platform from Gemini to GPT, some use it as a source of truth while others like op use it indiscriminately!

Also, some of it were suggestions from an extension. You can kindly check all my posts, if you like, I don't use AI for the totality of my speeches. I write well myself!

If you have anything better to say, kindly do so🤨 !

Living rent free in my head? That's a strange thing to say. Dude, I barely even know you. I'm only following the conversation going on with all the monikers here. 😂

And yes, you did sound hypocritical when you tried to mock Omoawoke for relying on ChatGPT in the post of yours that I initially quoted. Here it is again, in case you missed it:

Gabrielshow24:
Right? It's like watching someone try to win an argument by throwing a smartphone at it instead of actually thinking! 🤣 I mean, relying on AI to dismiss biblical narratives is like using a calculator to argue that math is just a myth. If he thinks the Tower of Babel is impossible, maybe he should try building a bridge between his logic and reality! But hey, at least he’s got GPT to back him up—because clearly, he’s running on empty! 😂

Nobody is saying ChatGPT is bad. I certainly didn't say that about you. But the optics don't look good on you when you ridicule someone for relying on AI, and yet your entire post in some of your comments (not all) are written by AI from start to finish. You ain't even editing them, it's just straight copy and paste from the bots. 😂

Like, what's the point? Are you trying to prove a point? What are you using ChatGPT to communicate, that you can't just communicate with your natural words? If that's not relying on AI to you, then I don't know what else to tell you.

It just looks weird, that's all I'm saying. If you want to make a point about others relying on AI, it doesn't make sense to generate responses using AI yourself. What's the logic behind that? It just looks weird, that's all.

And I know you don't use ChatGPT for all your posts. I've seen a few of your posts that read natural, so relax.

Suggestions from an extension is funny though. Issorite. Let me just believe you. 😉😁

Depends on my mood, but bread and eggs with steaming hot chocolate is a vibe tho. 🤧

Mom007:
True. Even works with bread.

The first time I tried bread with egusi was when I was down with serious malaria. The bitterness in my mouth made it feel so bad. I'm sure it's nice but that experience traumatized me. 🤢

Gabrielshow24:
Right? It's like watching someone try to win an argument by throwing a smartphone at it instead of actually thinking! 🤣 I mean, relying on AI to dismiss biblical narratives is like using a calculator to argue that math is just a myth. If he thinks the Tower of Babel is impossible, maybe he should try building a bridge between his logic and reality! But hey, at least he’s got GPT to back him up—because clearly, he’s running on empty! 😂

I didn't want to bring this up. I honestly wanted to keep quiet when I discovered you were doing it the first time, but I don't like it when people are being deceptive and hypocritical.

Like the saying goes, before you remove the speck you see in another person's eyes, remember to remove the log of wood in your own eyes.

At least Omoawoke is honest about his use of ChatGPT. What about you?

I actually don't care about people using gpts in debates, as long as they're honest about it and can defend their views. But it's weird to be painting the use of AI as a bad thing when you're doing it yourself. You did it in your post that I quoted below, and I suspect you did it here too.

Please let's try to be transparent when we're discussing on this forum. I know it's an anonymous forum, but there has to be a limit to the gimmicks. I have nothing against you. I just have a problem with hypocrisy. Thank you.

Gabrielshow24:
Ah, the self-proclaimed arbiter of intellect graces us with his presence! 🌟 It’s amusing how you claim to engage with 'high intellect' while simultaneously resorting to insults rather than substantive debate. But let’s not forget your earlier promise to provide evidence to dismantle the plausibility of the Tower of Babel.

You were tasked with properly dating the Tower and presenting evidence of languages that predate that period. Yet here you are, more focused on belittling others than actually delivering on that challenge. It seems your lofty claims of intelligence are as empty as your arguments!

You may think you’re above the fray, but true intellect isn’t just about throwing around insults; it’s about engaging with ideas and backing them up with solid evidence. So, while you eliminate those you deem 'dull,' perhaps take a moment to reflect on your own contributions—or lack thereof. After all, it’s easy to feel superior when you’re standing on a pedestal of your own making, but real wisdom lies in humility and the willingness to learn from others.

So, let’s see that evidence you promised! Or will you continue to hide behind your self-inflated ego? 🤔

Lucifyre:
Like i always tell you its your children i pity for. To have to constantly call a dedicated oaf like you father would weigh heavily on the mind.

💀💀💀💀💀

The ChatGPT civil war. 😂😂😂

Well, damn.

FIFA 07 on PSP
Because nostalgia

Zionmdde:
I might be a coward and a hypocrite, but I have made your mother scream my name a thousand times. Your sister too can attest what joy this hypocrite brought to her.
Now if you won't bold to say exactly what you belief is the origin of life, then fvck off.
But before then lemme know when your mother wants me again

Dude. This is low.

LordReed:
Bwahahahahahaha! You need glasses. That is a fork you dope. LoLz.

😭😭😭😭😭

Zionmdde:
1st paragraph, if the person's story doesn't contradict itself, and there are no witnesses, or evidences, or established laws to negate the story, it will fly. I don't know how you understand things
You call it "absurd" why is it absurd?

My belief is subjective, your own belief in your ignorance is also subjective. There is no objective evidence anywhere, why do I keep repeating that?

You that is a man of science and many researchers, what is the origin of creation? Is that too much for an Albert Einstein like you
.that time you are using to research a lie, why don't you use the same time research the truth and cure yourself of your ignorance

If somebody told you that there is an invisible dragon living inside their house, is it a plausible story? There's no way to refute it, obviously because you can't disprove a negative, but does that make it a plausible story?

Absurdity or stupidity is a function of the internal inconsistencies within a story. If it defies established knowledge of things we're already accept as fact, then it is reasonable to label it as an absurd story.

Me being a skeptic is not a belief system. That's just you mixing up simple concepts again for no reason.

Skepticism is a methodological approach to any claims being made. It's simply the application of reason and logic and verification to see if the claim is valid or not.

So, is there anything else you want to complain about? 😁

Zionmdde:
In a court case no story sounds stupid. Every story is xrayed with the lens of another story from probably a witness. If no story or evidence or established law contradicts that stupid story, then the story teller will walk free.

I have been clear from the beginning, every belief on creation is purely subjective, do what you want to do with that
And yes the Bible is my own truth. It's laziness for someone who claims he is ignorant in a matter he has keen interest in and yet he cannot do his own research and draw conclusions.
He is just lazying about, looking who other people's belief to criticize

Nope. Still wrong.

In the law court, it is always the plausibility of a narrative that sways a team of jurors. So if your story as a defendant is absurd or far-fetched, it can be dismissed as such.

As I told you earlier, everyone is entitled to a belief. But if you bring it into the realm of objective reality, don't cry blue murder when people tear it to shreds. Even if you're emotionally attached to your religion, nobody will be held responsible for the damage to your ego.

I've done plenty of research into the claims of the Bible. That's how I know it's full of shít, because the stories don't add up.

Do I know how the universe came to be? I don't know. But as time goes on, we uncover new knowledge that disproves what we used to think was the absolute truth. That's the first step to knowledge: your willingness to admit you don't know it all.

If I come across a theory that doesn't make sense, I'll treat it as such. I don't need to have an alternative to know that it makes no sense.

Every claim should be taken with a grain of salt.
Nothing should be taken as a 100% guarantee.
That is reasoned skepticism. That is intellectual honesty. That is self-awareness. That is telling yourself the truth: that you are ignorant and you still have a lot to learn about the universe.

But you can keep on lying to yourself that reasoned skepticism is the same as laziness. It only betrays your poor knowledge of scientific epistemology as a so-called "man of science".

Zionmdde:
Nah I said what I Said in the calmest possible way after I initially warned you

The Bible is my own truth, since you oppose come out with your own version of truth.
Since you don't know about the origin of creation, won't it be wise to remain ignorant and allow other people live with what they believe?

You said something, someone said it's a lie. Oya what is the truth then, the Person says "I don't know" doesn't that sound senseless?

I find it hard to imagine you were just calmly typing "Hot gay bitch", but anyway, you do you. 🤣 🤣

There's a difference between calling something "my truth" and calling something "the truth". The latter suggests an objective fact that is grounded in reality.

Like I said before, I don't have a problem with your faith. I only challenge people when it seems like they want to imply that their belief is objective, which you did when you asked Omoawoke: "what's your own claim that negates THE TRUTH of the Bible" (paraphrased).

Your problem is that you keep falling prey to dichotomous thinking. I.e if it's not A, then it must be B. It's a logical fallacy called False Dichotomy. Google it.

If you're watching a court case, and the defendant cooks up a story that obviously sounds stupid, won't you agree that his story is stupid? Does it mean you really know what happened in the case?

Zionmdde:
First, my believe cannot be tested with empirical evidence. That's why it's called faith. And that's why it's called spiritual. Anybody that engages in such discussions is not wise at all. Even the Bible says people like you won't understand

And that's okay. We already settled on the fact that your belief is subjective in nature. It's you who (maybe unconsciously) seems to forget this simple fact from time to time by claiming the Bible is the "truth". If it is "the truth", then surely it's claims should withstand scrutiny no?

Zionmdde:
Now you that assume your believe is backed with physical evidence, why don't we go through those your evidence. Stop whining like a Hot gay bitch and present what you think you know

First, I don't know anything about the origin of the universe. I don't know how you're struggling with this simple concept.

Secondly, insults only reveal your emotional state. You're getting heated over a simple discussion and it's hilarious to see because I'm just sitting here cool, calm and collected. 🤣

We don't need to be vulgar with each other. We just need to come to an agreement based on sound reason and logic instead of telling lies or being dishonest. Is that too much to ask? 🤔

Zionmdde:
Oga all this grammar just to evade the question "what is the origin of life?" If you don't know the answer, I have no business discussing genesis with you

And lest I forget to tell you, I am asking "origin of life" not "origin of man" so since biology has the answer, extract it and post here

The simple reason you don't want to discuss Genesis is because you're dishonest. You want to reverse the burden of proof and avoid defending your beliefs.

You believe the world was created a certain way. I don't claim to know anything about how the world was created. I readily admit my ignorance and I'm not ashamed of it. That's the basic difference between the both of us.

The fact that your belief cannot even rest on its own premise to validate itself should tell you everything you need to know about it, but if lies and intellectual cowardice is more convenient for you, then that's your cup of tea.

Zionmdde:
Lol just know you ve started introducing insults ohhh on a civil conversation. Am not quite a nice person. Just a little warning

Meanwhile I will pick whichever point I wish to from your write up

You're going to pick and choose... because you're dishonest. I said that already.

Anything else?

Zionmdde:
Lol
I have no business with a biologist. Because biology is the study of "life" not the "origin"

Lol. I knew it was only a matter of time before you started telling bold faced lies. Are you sure biology as a topic doesn't cover life's origin? Can you put your money where your mouth is?

You've already goofed up once. Do you want to take this risk?

Zionmdde:
I thought atheists claim they know more than religious people.

I personally don't claim to know more than religious people. I know many knowledgeable Christians both in and out of this forum. But even knowledgeable people can say stupid shít from time to time. It's called being human and prone to errors.

My simple reason for rejecting the Bible's account as false is because the story doesn't add up. That's it. If you insist the story is true, then present the evidence and we can look at it.

Zionmdde:
At least religious people have an answer to the origin of life

It's not really an "answer" if it is scientifically inaccurate or cannot be verified. 🤷🏽

Zionmdde:
while those who claim to have superior knowledge run away from the question.

Where did I claim to have knowledge? Why do you Christians always resort to cheap lies when push comes to shove?

Zionmdde:
They only find strength in criticizing something they know absolutely nothing about

Do I need to know how, when or where a meal was prepared to judge how it feels in my taste buds?

Zionmdde:
So oga, based on the overwhelming theory of evolution, what is the origin of life?

Ask a biologist. I'm not a biologist.

Can we now get back to the story of Genesis?

Zionmdde:
The only thing I pick from here

It's not surprising that you pick and choose from my comments. It's just proof of your dishonesty, like I've already noted.

You didn't address your flip flopping about moral rights.

You didn't address the point about scientific epistemology.

It's the one that doesn't make you look like an ignorant doofus you will address. Shocker! 😱

Zionmdde:
The only thing I pick from here is your tale of overwhelming evidence of evolution
Now let's focus there
According to the overwhelming evidence within your reach, what is the origin of "life"
Question you and your likes always run away from because you cannot defend what you will say

The irony of being accused of evasion by someone who's literally running away from defending the story of the Bible.

Your self awareness is in complete shambles. Lol.

Zionmdde:
The only thing I pick from here is your tale of overwhelming evidence of evolution
Now let's focus there
According to the overwhelming evidence within your reach, what is the origin of "life"

I don't believe in the theory of evolution, so you're wasting your time, and mine.

If you have a question relating to evolution or abiogenesis, you can ask a biologist. I'm an atheist. Do those two words sound alike to you?

At any rate, even if you discuss with a biologist, you're already off to a poor start because evolution doesn't deal with the origin of life. It's abiogenesis that deals with the origin of life.

Zionmdde:
Lol
You want to mark a script without marking scheme. You believe nothing but you are eager say my own believe is wrong
As I told your other guys,I have nothing to discuss with someone who can't be bold to declare what he believes about the origin of life

I have numerous things I believe in. However when it comes to claims about God and religion that deal with truth claims about reality, I see no point in believing them if there's no evidence to support them. It's very simple. I don't need to have my own explanation. I follow the evidence, and the theory of evolution is supported by overwhelming evidence. But even if it wasn't, it wouldn't make the book of Genesis true by default, and it wouldn't make me any less of an atheist. That's skepticism and intellectual honesty - a concept you and your cheerleader in the peanut gallery seem to have problem with.

And you keep flip flopping with your story. After picking your brain, you eventually admitted that I have the moral right to question others beliefs when you made it clear that code of ethics has nothing to do with belief.

But now you've gone back to your original claim because it's convenient for you. Is it that hard for you to be honest?

You're only demonstrating your poor knowledge of scientific epistemology by framing skepticism and science based reasoning as evasion, which is ironically funny for someone who claims he's a man of science.

But don't worry. You have ignorant and dishonest praise singers blowing sweet light breeze up your ass crack to keep deceiving you, so you have nothing to worry about. Lol

Zionmdde:
Am talking about your evidence backed belief about the origin of life that negates the creation account in genesis

Disclaimer: what ever you mention here should be able to scale through when put into physical scientific scrutiny, laws and theories

I don't need an alternative explanation for how life came about to reject creation narratives if they're demonstrably false. I only need to rely on the lack of evidence from creationist proponents.

So again, is your interpretation of the book of Genesis literal or metaphorical?

What else is new?