Me like Sammie too.

Jodera:
Lol... Na 30 sha.

Na just make dem get head for that deal Auba-cout swap abeg

I used to think he's in his early 20s

Silentgroper:
Wetin barca wan use auba do sef. That guy don finish oo.
Keeping laca go mke sense for una. That one still dey score. Him no just dey consistent or mke una offer laca for braithewait, he is keen to leave barca as him dey find fresh contract terms, probably an increase in his wage, which barca wouldnt give him.

I feel Auba will thrive at barca, lots of creativity, his style suits them, easy football, No stress, just give me the ball in space to run at/with and finish or tap ins.

Spy360:

Looking average is as good as being average to anyone who won't value someone. It's what is implied.

Hope you didn't ignore the picture presentation?

Smh.... Looking average= Being Average? OK Sir.

The picture, at some point, it was Senderos, Cygan, Eboue and Clichy deputising due to injuries, yet they sailed because? They had a Gilberto/Viera...IGWE up front, workaholic Ljumberg.

mostob:
Good day fellow gooners..

Despite the volume, I went through the argument. I must also commend you all for been civil.

IMO, defence will win you a cup maybe but attack will win you a league. The more your attacking threats, the more your opponents will be scared of you. But if a team build the defence while the attack (and midfield-as applicable to arsenal) is blunt, sooner or later, the defence will crack. Having a balanced team is good but attack is the first line of defence.

Good point, I think defense won Arterta the cup, sit back and hit on counter or score 1 and block your defense.

Also, The more you attack and your midfield keep possession the lesser your opposition will have the time to come at you.

Teams hardly attack Barca,City and Bayern not because they've great defense, rather they have a midfield who constantly keep possession and an attack who are never going to stop coming at you with full threats.

kokaneprodigy:

Arteta will buy you another CB e go shock you

kokaneprodigy:
Our priorities in order of signing right now should be AM, LWF then CB.
We couldn’t score against a newly promoted Brentford, you think other teams will be weary of us with such display.
I pray we escape bottom half this season

For me AM,LW and CM

Saliba and Mavro can still patch things up.

Spy360:

May God forgive you for calling Campbell and Toure average.
Did you know that Arsenal didn't not concede a goal through out the knockout stages of that CL run and just two goals in total (first two games)? These were games against Real Madrid, Juventus and Villareal. Even in that finals, we were down to 10men few minutes after kickof, yet Campbell rose to head us into a 1-0 lead which was held by the defense till few minutes to the end of the match?

Check the scorelines in pic below.

Attack win games. Defense win titles.

Well, you may have to reread, there was nowhere I referred to Campbell and You're as average, I said "will look average with this present forward".

kokaneprodigy:

This was my argument, when i said sorting midfield and attack will run off on the defense positively. But some felt Arteta knows best.
We had Mustaffi and Luiz but we mad Europa, after splashing on DM and CB we finished 8th.

Last season they were claiming Arteta didn’t prioritize defense, what has his actions this current TW shown.

I keep saying the difference is maybe I predict too soon what others are yet to see. It was visible to the blind sef.

We need more CBs.

Spy360:

Your mind just wouldn't come to terms with 'winning the league'.

FYI

The defense wins you league' argument is not for Arsenal. Whenever that gets into you lots' head, the matter settles.

If you want to argue with Arsenal, use any of our title winning teams. Simple.

My point is for Arsenal to at least get back up, the attack should be priotised,(I'm not playing down defense).

On your last paragraph..
The invicibles had Henri banging goals, assisting goals, creating chances and dropping deep to help midfield and start attack... That's Henri alone o.
Not to talk of Pires, Reyes,Ljumberg,Bergkamp, KANU.

If you set up Toure and Campbell with these present Arsenal forward who only wants to pass the ball sideways, The invincible defense will look so average.

The UCL final loss in 2006 was largely blamed on Henri for wasting chances he scores normally. Had Henri scored just a goal, I'm quite confident Barca won't come back.

Jodera:
I'm just imagining Kos and Mertsacker in this our present team. Na insult we go dey insult mertesacker esp 24/7.

See as Mari dey receive insult now, I bet he wouldn't be bad like this when arsenal had coq, Caz and ozil in midfield, while attack of Sanchez Walcott and giroud.

This present arsenal na shirime

NB... Sczeneny won golden glove with koscienly and Mertesacker as our 2 major cb.
But we know the main departments that ensured that to happen

Mertasacker had Coquelin doing dirty job for him in midfield, Carzola controlling the midfield and attack, Sanchez pinning the entire opposition back, Ramsey always running and arriving at opposition box to score alongside Oxlade running endlessly with power and pace... Don't forget Iwobi and Welbeck coming from bench to press and physically disturb defenders.

Mertasacka was basically winning aireal duels and using his long legs to intercept and clearing the balls.

Arsenal was not winning the league, but was far up and competitive.

iamoyindamola:

Quick question
We never even qualify for champions league to start with, we dan upgrade our defence with 75m over 2 seasons now
Instead we are getting worse
Shey na like that defence they win league

your ijogbon is too much...
Na true o, we can't even make Europa.
Even when Auba/Laca were banging in goals during the Emery era, I was still complaining about the attack still being dull, our build up and approach to attack wasn't impressive, it was Only Iwobi who looked threatening...

My idea of a good attack is when you have a front 4 who can use the ball, silky movement and turnings, interchange passes& switching positions,drive foward with power and pace with good shooting and curling ability and as well drop deep to middle to start attack.

Then 2 solid CM&DM who can help push ball forward, cover grounds, shield defense and guard the ball well.

Also Athletic RB&LB who can run down the flanks to support attack and run to cover the defense.

With the above, even if you have 2 Mustafis at CB, they will still look okay, and your team will compete for top4, be a joy to watch and maintain the big name standard.

Spy360:

If it is not about winning the league, then this argument is dead on arrival.

Defense wins you league' . Take that home.

You should know the "defense wins you the league" quote is just a cruise.
The koko be say, strong attack with an average/weak defense can take you far.

Spy360:

Barcelona has a fairly good defense. With Pique, Dest and Alba. Besides can they win the league despite continuing to concede 2goals per game while hoping the attack will bail them out? Not realistic.

Stop confusing yourself, both attack and defense are needed. Attack will ensure you win games like this, but it's the defense that will ensure you will the title at the long run.

Bàrca defenders are not typical traditional defenders like Bonnuci and Chielini, barca'm defenders are just ball playing defenders who make use of their ability to hold/shield the ball.

Barca will definately make top4/ even with Messi', this is because the likes of ANSI Fati, Griezman, Dembele, Memphis can dominated and pierce any defense.

Its not about winning league for now, rather make the team offensive and attacking in the real sense

kokaneprodigy:

We need more CBs

This Barcelona v Sociedad game is a testament to why fast sharp attack can take you up and far..

The barca defense to me has been average, but the attack of braithwhite, Griezman and Memphis have been explosive.

Arsenal need to get in at least 3 players who are fit,strong,powerful, energetic and very good at progressing and Using the ball in the attacking front.

Another Lucy like eviction.

Arin looks fine tonight

iamoyindamola:
On a bright side guys
City lost

They lost to NLrivals, hope Nuno won't take spurs to a level Arsenal would regret not signing him over.

Spy360:

I grew up knowing Arsenal as Arsene Wenger.

His approach to games.
His calmness whether we score or concede.
His animations with his jacket.
His french accent.

If Wenger was to be the coach, we would have still lost, but then he would calm us down with the POSITIVES

...and one thing is sure next, we would go on a 10game winning streak with much better intensity even if we have Chelsea and City next games.

I loved and adopted this behavior from Wenger

Jodera:
This is not even about relying on KT sef, diz is a Pure case of Visionless uncreative and unproductive midfielder.
No wonder we never had any big chance created!!

Xhaka is too one dimensional
Imagine Fabregas,Rosicky,Ozil and Carzola in that position

kodded:
Im not suprised in the resukt yesterday, A £60 million maddison was needed in that match over a £50 million ben white.



I see no reason why saliba can not be given a chance when the likes of mari and holding are in the squad

The only positives in this loss is that it will force the club to bring in a more experienced CAM like maddison, but even maddison is not enough because we still need a winger that will mount the LW position, because as it stands, Pepe, Nelson, Abuneyang, ESR, willian and martinelli are not ready yet for that LW position at all, infact the only creatuve force we have in that left is from Tierney, and that has been one of our major problem since last season, such a shame that arteta was blind to see it.

Now the season has not even started and we have continued to rely on young saka again, such a shame from a club that had over £75million to spend in the summer

Everything 100% summarized in details.

Madison
Podence and a good CM would have gone a long way.

iamoyindamola:

That's the problem, I badly wanted xhaka out
Look at onyeka new to the league and he already made an impact

Somebody said Onyeka covered ground like he has 3lungs, I sure say xhaka go dey static like pole

fredoooooo:
Roland17, lets first start from this question .. why sign Xaxha again , i think say e dey go Roma ..
He use euro to deceive una agian

IFL Xhaka scores 5 goals in this game, I will still not want him in my team... Xhaka in the heart of your midfield in a high paced league like premiership is a disaster

Xhaka has a way of flattering to deceive, 3/4/5 few games he will do well and some fans will want his contract extended.

Arterta has poor taste of players, how the hell will you extend Xhaka's block his transfer 2ce.

iamoyindamola:
If you watching this match I sorry for you o
As for me and my family we dan they watch big brother, I'm not going to die young for some mofos that doesn't even care

Watch Lorient vs Monaco and see difference in quality.

Spy360:
Gabriel Martinelli is proving me wrong. No wonder he was benched by Brazil.

.
The other day you said you hope they prove me wrong. I told ya they wont.
Maryinelli is good but not yet ready to be the main Man, he needs to be playing behind an established Winger like even a Podence.

Let's stop being sentimental, arsenal is shit, it's not about whom we are playing. Do you think Chambers can make first team in the Brentford starting line up?
Copied#.

The bolded was my point few days ago.

Roland17:


You don dump Liverpool?

I dey partially o dem fit fail this year jare..
Bro try some French league football, e go sweet you.

Roland17:
Na the Chamber wen better pass Clown Bellerin be dis abi which one? E go better say we no play with RB this season be that.

Ordinary French ligue1, you'll find better players than Chambers and Xhaka.
I had my fears on them before game...

All eyes on ligue1, Messi don raise bar in France..
Na France we dey this season

I think Lorient v Monaco game will be more interesting, players dey to scout.

kodded:
if martinelli and balogun deliver tonight, I belive that will be the end of the handshakes � bros

I hope so...
Martinelli and Pepe at the wings
Balogun upfront
ESR and Lokonga behind them... Datz interesting.. I'll support and watch this.

You see the handshake brethren, I'm so done with em

BlueRayDick:
I'm interested in seeing what Sambi can do

Interesting line up, apart from Xhaka and Chambers who I don't find exciting anymore, everyone else on the starting 11 deserves support.