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sod09:
let's just manage them till season end and sell them off to turkey or china

Go to front page, Arsenal fans there are saying it as it is, Not even has been spared,but I understand blind love.
The feeling there is REVAMP the squad.

The result will paper the cracks, excuse of " We have Napoli,we are short in numbers, Result matters etc will ease the remark

donbenie:
And this is based on his performance today?

News flash,

Aubameyang has been scoring 18 or more goals per season since FOREVER..

Average?

Anyone can score 20+ goals in bundesliga, in England and in tough stage Auba has been average, don't let blind love foool you, he's just a glorified poacher with good positioning, nothing special.

ndidibabe:
This Arsenal team is poor.

That's one of the reason I'm considering my future.
From Fabregas,Hleb and Roscicky days to this trash is unbearable.
I need to enjoy football back

Awful show , Looked like 10 against 10, Arsenal fans all around had their hearts in their mouth..Exhausting..
Lucky Goal,lucky Red.
Kosc and Leno did well
All our attacking players are fvckn pvssies

ndidibabe:
Do fans actually leave a club to join another. I don't think so...

I used not to think so, until I started seeing it around.
Arsenal fans base reduced in nigeria after Kanu,the trophy less era and what have you

There's a reason fans boycotted Emirates, people go in search of good football anywhere around.

Spy360:
So how have they been better than us that you envy them so much to wish we were them?

Or are those players better than what we've got?

You people get me wrong a lot, I didn't say I envy them nor wish like them.
I only used them to buttress my point on building new stadium doesn't translate to bad performance on pitch and in transfer window.

Spy360:
West Ham?

As in WEST HAM?

Yes the Olympic stadium is 60,000 crowd capacity, same as the Emirates with top class infrastructures.

They signed decent players in Anderson, chicharito,Anatouvic,zabaleta,nasri,fabianski amongst others, and we haven't heard them in financial crisis nor struggling from relegation.

Spy360:
The year we moved to our stadium we reached the CL final and lost narrowly to Barcelona.
Guy forget, when Spuds finished paying the £1billion plus interest they will be fighting relegation.

This will be a testament to A Wenger.

We moved in 2007 and the final was in 2006, we became a selling club afterwards and hardly replace them adequately.
West ham built a stadium and they have been able to do good business since then.
Spurs won't go down fighting relegation, in so far poch sticks to the same philosophy of the club.

BlueRayDick:
And u complained when Wenger sells the youngsters he got cheap for huge money in the past?

I don't even get u again bro. Can't u see that is exactly why Wenger didn't amount to anything and it's the same reason spurs hasn't won anything for 10 years and counting?

You and this Ur obsession with spurs sha!

I didn't complain when he sold them, my problem is his failure to replace them adequately.

Spurs are neither stagnating nor regressing, No one expects them in top4 nor win trophies, They weren't heavily invested on nor have an history to protect. They are ascending trophy or not.

R2bees:
You are done??. I don't like hearing this, Like is this even possible? For instance you hear people say, i used to be a fan of so so club.. Most especially Man city and Barca fans.

I don't like to feel this way also, that's why I'm gon be patient for 4 more Windows.
There's this sweet feeling I had those days, 0-1 at benabeu in 2006, 2-2 against utd in 07/08, O-2 at Milan, 2-1 vs barca, 2-0 juve Highbury, and few more others, those feelings are like or more than a trophy.

The good classy football and never die attitude then was satisfactory, even when we lose then, I don't cast blame nor rant. I enjoyed what I see.

It may sound funny, but those Adrenaline rush, I see that a lot in Liverpool's games, those joyful moment are like a trophy.

Spy360:
By the time they start paying back the £1billion you will thank God you are no spuds...

They sold Walker, bale,modric, got in cheap good deals in Davies,Tripper, winks and are still competitive.
.I doubt they will go down.

BlueRayDick:
Bros just go and join dayokanu on bayern thread and be like the 4th or 5th person supporting bayern in the whole of nairaland already!

That is the only club that can offer what you want immediately. Them go dey come Europe wella and even if their whole first team die in plane crash dem.go still qualify for Europe

EPL too sweet to leave, I've been there for about 16 years.
I could have join barca or PSG but their league dull.
I'm crushing on Liverpool atm, but I'm hopeful in the next 4 transfer windows we get it right, else I'm off!

I may not be able to cope,sincerely I'm not satisfied, I want more, contending for pl, going far in Europe ,confidence ahead of big games and 1 or 2 trophies here and there isn't too much to ask.

Keky:
Arsenal fans are still moaning. God!!!. You guys can moan. Even if we beat all big teams una go still complain. Especially Khalifa, you need to tone down your pessimism man. No be by force to dey support Arsenal oh.

I have every reason to be pessimistic, no be the same Arsenal?
I've already set 6 transfer windows for myself, that's what klopp had, if the board can't bring in the right set of players within that period of time, I'm done!

I don't enjoy it, I couldn't have fallen in love with this Arsenal side, I miss the 2007/08 season, from then we have always been stagnating.

I watch other teams in Europe and I see difference in quality and desire.

BlueRayDick:
So many assumptions and beer parlor talk in one post. Make we no long this talk anymore Jàre.

But am glad u changed Ur mind from saying No Arsenal player can score Son's kinda goal to agreeing Lacazette had scored something similar against Loserpool.

You can always criticize the players when they are not performing/ when they dish out shabby performance(afterall they get paid hundred of thousands in dollars every month) but don't rubbish the good deeds they've done in the past while doing so

I was aware of laca's goal when bringing that son's goal up.
I want to see my Arsenal at the top, I don't get moved by the "good deeds" that paper over the cracks.
There's a standard every individual Fans want and verdict remains the same, get in tough talented men who will take us to the next level( competing for the league,a team confident of ending intop4 and make us proud in Europe) and not beating Chelsea today , play and lose to west ham in a such a weak insipid manner, being raped by the big teams in Europe.

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BlueRayDick:
Well maybe we should just play Champions league and Epl alone and shun all other cup matches henceforth then. It's just like saying u don't need an elective course in the university system even when it's obvious a 5 point grade in that course can tilt you towards first class.

Just look at city, they have one domestic cup already, in the final of another, and on course to win the league. Now if they win those 3, they would've earned themselves domestic treble. You think anybody would be saying that statement of 'FA cup not being a true show of strength' in guardiola's face?

Mourinho and gaurdiola attached too much importance to those competition because of fortune spent by their respective employees, those teams, Chelsea& city lacked history,so fans and owners want to celebrate anything.

The great Fergie and Wenger didn't rival much on it then, the rivalry was on EPL and Europe, maybe Fa cup a little.
Wenger fergie used not to priotise those competition, they field in kids until it gets to semis.

City have fired coaches over the years despite winning those competition, just because the UCL or EPL wasn't bagged.

City will likely fire Pep if he doesn't deliver in Europe, even pelegrini got to the semis but still got axed.

Klopp hasn't won anything, we don't see nor hear stuffs like him being sacked compared to other managers, This is so because he took Liverpool to a stage bigger than the former managers, his side digging it at big stage and brings much exciting moments for them with hope and belief of facing any team.
At this rate Liverpool aren't scared of any team in Europe, should they even lose a game, I bet you they will lose like a matyr, unlike our series of heavy defeats.

Monaco,Ajax are getting big recognition,thier players getting signed in Europe today's because of their exploit at the big stage.
I am not saying fa cup or Carabao isn't important but not enough to rate strength of a team.
You can't be doing well in your secondary school but start chickening out in WAEC.
Earlier in the season, even most fans voted for top4 than facup.
The big news in England now is race for top4.

BlueRayDick:
I hate to break the news to you, but spurs have been giving this same display since poch took over with nothing to show for it. And they might probably still be in that behavior for the next few years. While they have been giving their fans hope of better future, arsenal has won about 3 FA cups if I'm right.

I beg you in the name of God no just dey use Spurs and Arsenal in the same sentence at all.

As for soft fixtures, I don't even know what to say to you on that. We've seen MK Dons eliminate Great great Manchester united before, we've seen so many other big teams lose in cup matches you would've considered soft fixtures. Oga mi, when it comes to cup matches you either win or get eliminated. I'm sure you think the season arsenal eliminated man utd in the FA cup it was a soft fixture too, or facing Chelsea in the final is the softest final one can imagine.

For me, Fa cup isn't a true test of teams strength over the whole season.That's your view and no problem on that.

BlueRayDick:
Our focus should be on building a team to beat and not one game changer that won't always work. We should focus on having a team with depth. Look at Man city, no dey concerned about any game changer whatsoever. All these talks of individual game changer Don follow 1990's and early 2000's go ó. We've seen fairly unknown teams breaking into the limelight doing things on This century. Teams like RB Leipzig, Leicester no carry all this game changer matter for head before they made name for themselves.

And yes, a coach is not a computer. He's human and will make mistakes. Correcting them is what makes him a better coach. I've watched Wenger despite making mistakes still wait till 80th minutes before making subs. Abeg give Emery accolades for trying to make amends to his mistakes at half time.

You response doesn't tally with what I wrote.

BlueRayDick:
No true fan was happy about that Everton loss, but we can't all start being pessimistic and thinking not making top 4 is beacuse our strikers aren't scoring enough when obviously our defenders aren't doing any better jobs too

Well, I chose this state of mind to avoid being hurt and start ranting later on or pretend to be fine.
I've seen us several times bottle it, Atlectico 10 men from 12mint, we still drew them and got bullied by Costa,partey and co, I wanted a befitting end for Wenger but the boys aren't capable.
We needed a draw to maintain our 3rd position and be ahead of spurs, what more can be motivating? We went down from 12th mint, and couldn't hit more than once on Target, Everton had 7 shots on Target mustafi, sokratis and Leno saved us, but defence is still the problem. We couldn't hit the bar,scare them not to talk of score for 70minutes. And we had attackers?

BlueRayDick:
You really need to decide on what you want bros. One minute you want arsenal to win the league the next minute u want them.to be like spurs, u want them to have players like spurs who hasn't won any trophy in the past 10 years.

You see u keep choosing wrong teams for arsenal to learn from. Spurs? Dem never sign those mentally, physically and trophy-cally players when arsenal win the fà cup back to back?

You are mixing things up and it's tiring, we currently don't look like winning the league, but at least give us joyful and make us confident and hopeful for better future which the spurs are doing ATM.

Fa cup and Carling cup doesn't show strength of team. Anyone can have soft fixtures.

BlueRayDick:
So u no watch ball during the few games unbeaten run we had this season when Emery will make just two subs at half time when we are trailing and end up winning the game àbí?. Wetin dem.dey call that one? No be game changing subs? The players that were introduced no be game changing players again?

Maybe we should just offer Solskjaer contract to come out of retirement and be our super sub if na wetin our problem be now na

Any team can make subs and snatch a result, I'm talking of a game winner or changer like a v.persie, fabregas rosciky etc who can by their individual brilliance bail you out.
Bringing in fresher legs or correcting errors he made from line up isn't what we saying.

BlueRayDick:
Well.maybe u didn't use comfortably, but believe me they ain't sitting. At least not when they still have loserpool to box and man utd to fight gidigbo with.

The fact remains no matter the names u choose to call the current Arsenal players, they still have a top 4 battle.to fight with Chelsea, spurs and man utd. And that sums up their respective seasons. None of them has surpassed each other till 2 qualify and the rest two go to Eropo league.

The Everton loss made me lose confidence and belief, I won't be shocked if we miss top4 or not win Europa..

airmark:
Remove Hazard from Chelsea and replace him with your best player, will he carry Chelsea the way Hazard has been doing for us this season? The answer will open your eyes to what the guy was telling you.

Nice one bro, Hazard is a game changer/winner, see his goal against Liverpool in Carling cup, see that quicklightning run, see the run at westham defence, very fearless and magical.
Is it Auba or ozil you expect to come in and win us a game? With their usual soft slow passes and flicks?

I hope he understands me.

BlueRayDick:
See how u easily made up an excuse for hazard playing under Sarriball, but yet you are fast to call Arsenal players spineless and what have you despite playing under a new manager who is just trying to rebuild his team. Smh. If I tell you now that the spineless ozil was a vital member of the 2014 world cup wining German team now, you will say that's in the past.

I don't know maybe it's just me or you have a way of picking the wrong words or I end up seeing your posts in a wrong way, but bro you just said Chelsea is sitting comfortably in third place.... Even Chelsea fans will see that as trolling

What I said initially was until we start recruiting players with physical/mental strength and ability to drive and run fearlessly at opposition in the tough games,we won't compete at the big stage.
Chelsea have one in hazard, and he's the reason Chelsea are still in it, they have won trophies and beat big teams over the past few years with him, they may not be at the big stage because sarri is making a big blunder with the usage of kante.
Ozil had his prime days between 2010-2016, Baba's achieved big,no motivation again should leave stage for younger ones

I didn't say Chelsea sit comfortably.

BlueRayDick:
Spurs having a better season Than us? Like seriously? Have they won any cup? Are they 25 points ahead of us?

Bros see ehn this thing just be like person wey get 3.49 cgpa dey talk say he dey ahead of person wey get 2.50 for university. Everybody know say na 2.2 the two of dem dey. If they both graduate at that point they end up with a second class lower certificate and will surely be turned out for a job role that requires a second class upper graduate.

As of today arsenal is in the europa league quarter finals trying to qualify for the semis and Tottenham is trying to do.same in the champions league. The two teams are fighting to win a place in the next year champions league by finishing top 4 in the league. This is a fact!

And for the talk about son's goal against Chelsea, it seems u don't just appreciate simple stuffs. You want everything extra. Lacazette score a nice goal against spurs, abeg why run 50yards to score when you can easily shoot in the box and hit Ur target?

Like I said earlier lacazette and Auba may be going few rough times, that doesn't make them bad at all! They've given us goals in some vital ties we should dwell on that and not just keep focusing on the negatives.

How we measure success/good performance maybe different.
If I were a spurs fan, I'd rate our season good enough, they didn't spend a dime, even had to change stadium over and over yet still giving it a fight at the top level,

I remembered how new Emirate stadium used to be our escuse. Rejoicing over hard struggle to beat Rennes, Bate isn't what I want for my Arsenal.
Trophy is for bragging Rights, for me, I like to see my team give me joy at the big stage.

Spur's done it well over the last 2/3 years, drawing inform Madrid at bernabue, beating a Ronaldo Madrid 3-1 in Wembley, getting to this stage of UCL despite being the underdog against the Inter,barca,Dortmund.. Now a chance to get city out, I felt envious of their fans that night.

That's the level I want my Arsenal, they might be in the top4 fight with us, but Arsenal fans worldwide can't be comfortable of us displacing them.

That almost snatched a point at Anfield, we on the other hand were shattered.

I'm not saying laca and Auba are bad, but they don't fill me with confidence especially when the game gets cracky.

pazienza:
I don't even think we are actually competing for De light. I think it's typical Arsenal board mind games on the gullible fans.
If we know what's good for us, we should be targeting those three I mentioned.

BTW, does number of matches played have anything to do with the amount Arsenal would pay Barça for the loan deal for Dennis Suarez?

I'm finding hard to understand how and why Elneny is even ahead of him in the squad midfield pecking order.

I fear Suarez will turn out to be the usual pass me I pass you players we have around, the guy may lose motivation, He's known for his iniesta style of play, its getting too much, from Barca's bench to Arsenal, haba..
As for El neny, I think Emery wanted a more defensive player to block.

BlueRayDick:
Bros this Ur analysis no be am at all!. The same spurs team you Claim are physical, tough and stood their ground was the same spurs team we whipped 4-2. The same physical players you claim are in their line up were not dead when Ramsey had a run at their defence in the second leg.Tge same spurs that has physical and mental strength for modern day football has been beaten once and drawn once this season by the same arsenal that lacked those same qualities you mentioned.


As for Son's goal, u saying no arsenal striker can replicate that is not true. At least Lacazette's goal against Liverpool in the first leg bore a semblance of that with his back earlier turned at goal before he took the shot that got us an equalizer.

Our strikers maybe going tru a rough patch now, but getting emotional and rubbishing goals you jump up celebrate that time no be am at all. You can't watch Auba's goal against spurs in the first leg and suddenly wake and claim he only scores tap-ins

Derbies are special games and can go either way, since poch's take over spurs, they have had the higher no of wins against us, they eliminated us 0-2 in the cup game on our ground.
Spurs are clearly having a better season than us despite buying no outfield player..
They survived barca,inter cl group, eliminated bundesliga leaders Dortmund,giving city a good fight in the quarters.
We have also see them end Chelsea's unbeaten run earlier in the season, and walloped utd on their ground. All this isn't fluke,they are what I say they are.
Yes lacazete may have scored son esque goal, he's the probably the only one who tries such energetic and ambitious stuffs, the son,Kane do it on consistent basis and when it mattered most on big stage, Remember his goal against Chelsea, that run!
I don't jump when Auba scores a wonder,because I know its unusual, it will take months before he does such in the big moments.

BlueRayDick:
Chelsea and the attacking- minded-cum-fearless Hazard are fighting for top 4 with Arsenal's yeye-spineless-nearest-man-passers.

Maybe u should look for a better player/club to use for the basis of Ur comparison

Really?An hazard's Chelsea team has won virtually all available trophies, 2 EPL within 2 years, Fa cup last year,ended city's unbeaten run, beat all big teams this season and are sitting in 3rd currently.

Chelsea to me aren't that bad, rubbish Sari ball, misplacing kante and joginho's position and lacking a ruthless striker is their major hindrance from competition at the big stage, and this is easy to address.

With Hazard Chelsea are more dangerous.

sod09:
brs forget the watford game, these people will bully us from defense to attack

Doucoure,Denney and co, are too physical to handle by our boys..
An early lead or scoring first goal is our only hope, not even xhaka can handle those bullies.
None of ozil,Auba and guendozi should start.

pazienza:
Anderson or Deufoleu will be a low-key apt solid signing. Though I doubt doubt they would come cheap.
I also fancy Bolly of Wolves to replace Mustafi.

Those 3 you mentioned are typical klopp and poch's signings, they should be 35€ or < than that at most.

They are talents,premier league proven who would look top class in big teams and make them compete in big completions, but trust Arsenal to be so slow and uninterested in those deals.

Van dijk,winaldum,shaqiri,sallah,mane,oxlade,sissoko,wanyama,moura and many more are good examples, rather than waisting time competing with barca for 70m de light abi de cloud jare.

Dreamswayne:
Expect a Tottenham away kind of match... 2-2 predicted...

We lost there in 2014, Liverpool lost there earlier in the season.
That Napoli's pitch,home advantage and our bad away form scares.

solomonbrown64:
....Auba especially – No link-up, no hold up play and terrible technique at shooting. He has been awful lately and that seems to be rubbing on Laca too. For God sake, Iwobi who is shorter than he is can face his back to goal and attempt to fight for the ball but Auba who is 6 ft 2 seems unable to do that. Now I see the reason why some folks here hate him.

A Neres or another good winger will put both strikers on their toes next season. Regardless of the scoreline, I am happy with the win and manner we played, miles better than the horror show on Sunday.

I don't hate him, maybe sod9 hates him
I just hate his style of play, Welbeck could have been a better partner for the duo, he's strong,tall, guard the ball, wins duels,scorers headers and does the stress for Auba/laca..
He isn't much a goal scorer like them, but will make the attack solid.
Laca can be frustrating,fluffs his line on easy chances and good at scoring beauties,but tries to protect and get physical on the ball.
Auba frustrates me the more,he can't protect,hold nor do something spectacular with the ball.
That's why I rate Kane, Aguero,firminho,son et al, they are strong,sharp, never tired of scoring,assisting and firing.
Knockert,delofou Diego jota and filipe Anderson are cheap but solid fighting wingers who can make Auba's game easier,they will delete players and get the ball to his space/feet for tap ins.

Liverpool could have finished the business yesterday, imagine we conceded yesterday or eventually get eliminated, fans will pounce on cech,kosc,guen,ozil and rest for what our forward caused.

Now I'm fearful of the away tie,Lord help us.