₦airaland Forum

Is this all PDP got?

SUG president can pull more crowd than this

PDP is fast dying

hotgunz:
ok dat s wat s sponsoring lolz mumu

Instead of making developing and empowering the youths, he turned them to miscreants like we have below

braimeddy:
Sahara reporters with thier fake news. Funding the pro Biafra protesters in what way? Through out all d pic of their protest, I haven't seen them with arms and ammunitions. So what are they buying with the money Sahara reporters claimed that Ayim is giving them?

Biafrans miscreants do not need weapons before burning down trucks of private company.

They do not need weapons before burning down a whole mosque

They do not need weapons before they destroy MTN office in Owerri.

I think the federal government needs to declare a state of emergency and force everyone to stay indoor. If hungry wire you for some days senses we stream into your head

I was in a court sometimes ago and saw someone swearing by the law. The person came in as a witness to a case and i assumed he is a lawyer or a law professional. Law became a deity automatically with a system which has become an institution coupled with lord, sacred book and others.

Can we then categorically assume Law is God?

This is stale already.

He is dead and gone, never to return forever.

We need to face the problem on ground and leave the dead with the worms to take care off.

9jacrip:
Sent the mail.

Please let me know if you got it.

Wow.

I have read some of the Iyere in Abimbola book.

I also watched some on youtube. The audio are very poor.

Anyway thanks.

Hey Biafraudians, when is the protest holding in Lagos?

I got some charms I want to test on some lunatic dogs on loose who call themselves biafrans.

Thank Jah, I am getting voluntarily lab rats

macof:

This guy is sick in the head. I dont know what is funny in my statement

macof:
Jewesun = jesus? ? Why I no go laugh? Too funny


If yoruba folks knew jesus why would his name be rendered "Jewesun" ? Do you have any idea

I am not Lalude who used it in incantation.

The character might not be Jesus but I have read about it severally and also heard about it in some traditional discussion.

Just like some takes Thor as Sango though they are not same character but have resemblance. Jesus and Jewesun could have same resemblance but actually could not be the samething.

I have heard that Baba Agbonmiregun sawo lo si ogberi okun. And he taught all nations on earth about Ifa. This is why divination proces across the world look much like Ifa while Ifa is more complicated and sophisticated than them. The like of Kabbalah, iching, geomancy, ilm al raml, and sikidy are reflection of Ifa divination. In here, Jewesun could have appear which could be Jesus but Jew wrote another story of it. So many things sha

Maybe we need to engage real babalawo on this

9jacrip:
Mi o ma ri mo.

Maybe they took it off NL. I could email both to you when I get back to Lagos/Ogun.

kosi Iyonu.

I will be expecting a mail containing the file from you

9jacrip:
No, it doesn't.

I have two by Araba Osogbo, Baba Elebuibon but I've not been able to squeeze the second longer one on Nairaland. I uploaded one on the Yoruba thread.

Let me have the link bro pls

9jacrip:
You can buy iyere ifa cds often sold at stores in Osogbo especially or at festivals.

You may need oogun to help with memory or imo to speak to you when you need it.

Iyere Ifa no get download link?

Imo, do you mean Isoye? Those selling gbogbonise do advertise it. I dont believe that thing work abeg.

9jacrip abeg come carry your girlfriend go back to Yoruba commonwealth thread where she trailed you from.

9jacrip:
In the new Isese circle, especially we Babalawos, the Jewesun being Jesus rumour seem to be rife yet no one, at least none that I know can or has been able to pin point what Odu Ifa he can be found and if there's any similarities between him and Jesus.

In addition, Lalude may be an Olorisa or a Babalawo but his Ifa chants are learnt at Babalawo or Olorisa homes - his chants are usually surface 'ohun' recited during conflicts. Lalude and 'Kudaisi used to visit my uncle who is now late to learn one or two things - at least they were there earlier this year. Don't get carried away by their chants, all na beans.

Folks like Elebuibon, Peter Fatomilola, Saheed Osupa have concrete Ifa chants if you need folks to listen to.

Guy where I fit learn incantation?

I dont know why, I forget easily ones I learn from around. I want ones that will stick pam to my brain

Rilwayne001:
I watched the film.. I remembered your thread on Jewesun immediately Lalude refered to Jesus as Jewesu in the movie.. I think Lalude is an Aborisha because he is very versed when is comes to Ifa panegyrics and incantations..

His words ring bell in my head every now and then.

My woman was the one watching the movie. My attention was caught instantly when Lalude shouted down his victim. I thought I was wrong but had to rewind back to the scene to be sure of what I heard. Alas, it is the same Jewesun we all discussed about.

An Adaja who happens to live close to my house once narrated that Jesus was casting Ifa Ile (something like the one Alfas usually do called Ilm Al Raml or Sand Science). He even mentioned the Odu Jesus inscibed. Cant remember. He said Orunmila taught Arab/jewish nation and other nations around the world Ifa. When he was saying this, I thought he was kidding. . .trying to throw some jabs to Christians and muslims around. But this Jewesun stuff is bringing sense into his past words.

macof:

What's so funny nitori Olorun?

The Financial Reporting Council of Nigeria on Thursday said that non-charitable institutions owned by religious bodies would need to pay taxes because they were commercial ventures.

The Chief Executive Officer, FRC, Mr. Jim Obazee, said this while speaking on the theme, ‘Corporate governance: Essential ingredient for national development,’ at the 19th annual public lecture of the Chartered Institute of Personnel Management in Lagos.

Obazee explained that because the religious institutions were dealing with public funds, it had become necessary for them to prepare financial accounts.

“If you (a religious institution) want to set up a school, the school should be free for all your members’ children. If you charge any money, you will make those who have schools outside not to pay taxes to the government because you are engaging in non-charitable activity within charity,” he said.

He noted that the religious bodies that were finding it hard to comply with the preparation of their accounts in Nigeria had no problems doing it abroad.

While speaking on the importance of corporate governance, Obazee said, “The governance framework adopted by an organisation is influenced by factors such as regulation, market norms and expectation.”

He explained that where public funds were involved, it was advantageous to demand the adoption of certain governance practices.

The FRC boss added, “If you are keeping people’s money, then you have to prepare accounts. That is why churches fought me badly; they took me as a person and my office to court. But the last day that the court called, neither their lawyers nor the churches attended.”


http://punchng.com/religious-bodies-ventures-must-pay-taxes-frc/

Why is it that there names can not be listed?

Millions of people are suffering because we couldnt get fuel to buy while some big men are stealing our national resources. These so called big names should be revealed and publicly exposed so that we can know the real enemy of Nigeria.

GooseBaba:
Elaborate small na..Do you know the story/phylosophies behind Jewesun.?

I created a thread about it sometimes ago. I dont know any story about the character in Ifa.

That gal mentioning Jesus is what made me remember the Babalawo making related statement in the movie

GooseBaba:
What is jeswsun in opon Ifa..?

The babalawo in the movie meant that Jesus which the woman called is known as Jewesun in Ifa.

Edit: the babalawo is Lalude

tpiadotcom:
hey smartass, I didnt see your name in the opening post, did I miss something?

I invited myself, do you have a problem with that?

If you see me on a thread, you scram, get it?

save yourself some trouble!

We dont do Jesus here.

Aborisha are people that rever Orishas.

So if you want to join the party, keep your Jesus somewhere else. . . .then dance for Orisha

tpiadotcom:
why dont you post a link to where you saw that, are the people you are calling witches and wizards who read minds?

Links to what?

It is a Yoruba movie. I think the title is Alani Pamolekun.

A lady called on Jesus in a particual scene and the babalawo shut her up saying Jesus he is calling is Jeswsun in Opon Ifa.

tpiah11:
I am not a fan of this juju stuff, please quote me anywhere.

op you need to turn to Jesus, He alone can save you.

You are not invited here either.







Hey guys. I heard a Yoruba actor calling Jesus Jewesun in Alani pamolekun. How true is this statement?

akinvest:
Satan means Esu in Yoruba language.

Wrong sir.

Esu is a divine messenger in Yoruba spirituality.

Esu is the gatekeeper of communication between this world and the spirit world. Through him we reach out to Orisha, Eleye and Ajogun. He is the one that makes our sacrifices and prayer reach heaven.

Ajayi Crowther was the one that mistakenly translate Satan of the bible as Esu. They are two different entities.

Satan of the bible is the enemy of Jehovah while Eshu of Yoruba religion is not an enemy of Eledumare.

Eshu of Yoruba religion brings circumstances either good or bad to make one grow and become mature spiritually. Satan of the Bible is all about evil and fall.

PastorAIO:
Esu is the messenger of Eledumare. He delivers ebo to the orisha and he is an orisha of Justice.

Satan means the Adversary. That is an enemy. Esu is not an adversary in yoruba religion. Esu brings about the will of Eledumare.

I thought Esu is the leader of the Ajoguns.

Beautiful @ lawani.


Macof

9jacrip

Where the hell is pagan9ja?

Lawani is a fam.

Iamoilprince:
Did u verify it well?
Those are West Africa Joint Task Force fighting Boko Haram!

I clearly heard them speaking Hausa.

I pray ur own person should fall victim so u knw how it feels. AMEN! AMEN!! AMEN!!!

Where did you heard anyone in the video speaking Hausa? Do you know and understand hausa language at all?

You need to seriously get out of this ELS (Election lost syndrome)

speedyGonzales:
Freedom of information?

Freedom of information is not same as freedom for spreading of lies and deformations.

My heart skipped some sec when I saw the topic of Vivian thread. I though our galant men have been lost again all to see lies, bitter hatred against the government, greed for blog money and unpatriotism.

He even recaptured the video like he was on the field with the soldiers. The guy needs to be banned for dis information, spread of lies and not been patriotic.

hahn:
I believe you but I don't believe in you

Ya this is different things.

Disbelieve in god is non-belief.

Disbelieve in the existence of god is atheism.

Non-believers are not atheists

hahn:
All of them

I am god. I exist

TheAgba:
The christian God of course.

I am not a christian and wont speak for their God.

I am not even an Olorisha but I am strong adherent of Yoruba religion system. So I will speak of Isesese to the best of my knowledge. We do not have the concept of sin in Yoruba religion. We believe the world move only when good and evil are keep at balance. Eledumare who is the supreme God does not interact with us human or interfare in the affair of things in earth. The Irunmole have very little support they can add to individuals. We are all subjected to our Ori which is our own personal god.

We have something called 'ese' which some mistakenly translate to sin. Ese means offence. Being a conscious being, we make our own standard and principle. In our home, we make rules. In our community and nation, there is a law. We make this rule by ourselves and not gods. So when we do contrary to laid down rules, we are punished by the law of the land and not Eledumare.