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TLona1:
In 1958, Brazil had to face Soviet Union and Austria in the group stage.

In 1962, Czech Republic and Mexico

In 1970, Romania and Czech Republic.

How are these countries different from the modern day Poland, Iran, Mexico, Bosinia and co?

Abeg abeg

Soviet union were Olympics champions in 1956 (2 years before) and European Champions in 1960. Brazil still nake dem apako.

Czechoslovakia were runner up in 1934 and that 1962.

Czechoslovakia were reigning UEFA European Champions in that 1970

TLona1:
It's bot about start stat padding. It about the number of times the best teams will have to play which makes it harder.

For example, there'll be 48 teams in the next World cup. If Argentina still goes on to win the competition, it means they'll play more matches plus even having to face the best teams later on in the KO stage before getting to the final.

Now compare this with what happened in 1958, 62 and 70 where Brazil didn't have to play many matches to reach the final.

They're not the same at all.

Argentina Messi didn't play more than 7 times though Pele's Brazil played 6 times.

Stop fooling people here.

hensben:
Increasing number of game play open more chances of getting eliminated easily. See it from this angle too.

Play more? In Pele days, you must win 6 matches to lift the trophy. Today, you must win 7 matches to lift the trophy.

Number of games no reach 100 as you want us to believe.

TLona1:
Ibime, forgiveness and Bimffo so World cup 1958 and 1962 had just 16 participating countries?? Lmao.

Just shows how less the competition was then compared to now.

Another Reason Messi is the GOAT.

You are only grasping at straws.

A40:
Imagine thinking Pele won't dominate this era as well.

I don't want to get into these GOAT arguments anymore. They are forever subjective

If you say it's Messi. Fine

If you say it's Pele. Fine

If you say it's Ronaldo. Fine

Not fine to say Messi is goat of goats.

TLona1:
So Corinthians beating Chelsea meant that CONMEBOl >>>> UEFA right?

Make una dey decieve unasef

Yes, greater than UEFA in Pele's era.

The reason they dominated the world cup with players from CONMBOI in that era even the Intercontinental cup.

Let me refresh your memory.

A40:
Didn't Pele wipe the best of Europe koboko back to back?

Let me help refresh his memory.

Arizoner:
i believe the competition was rigged in favor of argentina because of messi. Five controversial penalties awarded to one team in each stage and you come and tell me nothing is wrong. No way

5...5....the one against Croatia was one of them. A player ran to hit goalkeeper but you dash dem penalty and refused to see VAR when called to. What a fraud!

afrodoc2:
Pele is eternally GOATED.

Gbamsolutely!

TLona1:
Goat wey no play for Europe na isi ewu.

See as Pele disgraced European Champions in backyard Europe with Eusébio the best player in Europe at that time.

Arizoner:
do you know if he had lost the final, that could be the end of his career.

Meaning he won based on sentiments. No problem.

OhBritannia:
Choose your GOAT wisely.

Imagine if Messi had won 2 or three of the finals Argentina got defeated.

50% were fraudulently given to him. Blatter confirmed he was fraudulently awarded player of the tournament in 2014 world cup. Even this one.

BlueRayDick:
A lot of things happen before and during that match.

First I believe most south Americans do not find flattering that comment of Mbappe about South American football being less competitive compared to what obtains in Europe. It appears he was dissing them. Now Messi might not really be outspoken about things like that and would always skip press men questions surrounding such controversies, but people like Martinez and the rest of the team will not hesitate to leave egg in the face of someone like Mbappe when they have the chance.

I also watched a video of Martinez before Tchouameni penalty which he saved. He delibrately threw the ball sideways for Tchouameni to go pick it up, walk up to the spot and Tchouameni plays it off target. It was after that penalty Martinez did the crazy dance that's become a meme. That was just mind games because the moment a young player like Tchouameni goes to pick the ball and starts trying to decide where to place the "b*Stard" in goal, Martinez is already in his head and he succeeded.

I Also saw a video of Mbappe celebrating at 2-2 clinching his fist pointedly at Messi. That alone qualifies him for disrespect from people like Martinez. I mean Martinez literally worships whatever ground Messi steps on. ( Who wouldn't in his shoes? This is a guy who spent 10 years at Arsenal, didn't get a chance until Leno was injured and boom! The FA cup.) Just 2 years of playing with Messi he has 3 international trophies to his name. The guy is all out to press any pressable necks for messi and if the neck no gree press, na to break am.

The bolded is the reason FIFA is assumed to be backing Messi to win the trophy because the referee ought to had given him second yellow card but he looked away. Very obvious.

Many fouls were committed by the Argentina players but the referee refused to give the second yellow card. Very obvious fraud.

The reason many will never regard Messi as goat of goats. Everything about him is fraud.

Kilishihunter:
Where them put pendu?

Find am.

iykofias:
Pele had some unaccounted goals because he played in so many exhibitions/tour matches around the world against amateur players that can be best described as ‘farmers’.
Yes, he won three World Cup, but that Brazilian team was filled with super talents, he sat out the large majority of the 1962 World Cup. something you can’t say about that Maradona or Messi team.

Sorry, Google didn't tell you he was injured in the group stage. Get your facts right next time.

chrisooblog:
If you're looking at overall achievement eg WC, UCL, Copa and Olympics painful as it is you have to give it to Messi but no doubt eibarman worked with a lot of great talents unlike Maradona who had to extract water out of stone with most of the average talent he worked with.

I agree with you on this. Maradona was another level.

Arizoner:
I wish he won it fair and square

Na ojoro e take win am. Shame!

Messi na 3rd behind Maradona.

lordfalcao:
you are funny. So the rushing defenders will stand with hands akimbo, while you do all the feigning in this world and square a pass back.

Does feigning takes everlasting? Something that will not take 2 seconds.

You no sabi play ball.

airmark:
Exactly, when you have better options.

Raumdeuter and A40 wouldn't forget what Messi did to their legends below, just as Barca fans would always remember Ramires'.

Everything no be muscle.

Exactly.

airmark:
Ofcourse it would have been a risk for Abubakar looking at how closer the keeper was to him, but Muani's looping the ball wasn't as risky as firing a shot with the keeper closely in front of him but well away from his goal line.

Firing the ball was gambling at that moment.

popizaino:
How will You think of heighting a keeper from such a distance? Think am now

Don't deviate from the subject matter or jump into conversation you have no idea about.

See what brought about the picture.

lordfalcao:
you dy talk rubbish. Feign keeper and square pass, when only one player is on run to goal

lordfalcao:
you dy talk rubbish. Feign keeper and square pass, when only one player is on run to goal

Really!? Picture doesn't lie.

popizaino:
Appreciate the brilliance of the goalkeeper. The striker did no wrong there. He did the right thing with the right technique. The best possible option was to square it for Mbappe but it will take someone like iniesta who isn't at pressure 95% percent of the time to think of that in such an intense moment. No one would think of heighting the goalkeeper from such a long range and at the moment. EOD.

That technique was good but not in that position.

raumdeuter:
Which means Messi is a foolish or dull striker

It was a foolish decision. EOD

lordfalcao:
so 8 will chip the keeper or feign the keeper to square back to his colleague like you tutored?

Dy play

You are learning fast.

andrewbaba44:
You say you be goat

Ogbeni wey your World Cup ?

Drop am for table abeg

Xaxi and Inesta, goat!? You deink shepe?

raumdeuter:
Robben is another dull striker according to airmark citadel of foolishness


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IM23poEees

Robben is not a striker but he tried when he feigned to make the keeper shrink and dive the wrong way before he striked.

His final touch was not decisive.

raumdeuter:
There is a reason all these players are professional footballers and you are not. Some of them like Messi R9 Robben are legends of the game


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IM23poEees

Did he shoot the ball? No, he feigned before tapping the ball but unfortunately, it heat the keeper's leg. He should had looped the ball since the keeper was already down.

Robben was known for missing chances. He is not a striker.

raumdeuter:
Watch this video at exactly 1:30 and tell me what this dull striker did


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB2MIIK7TbA

The same thing we are saying. He should have looped the ball over the keeper.

Messi knew he messed up. These days he normal chips the ball over the keeper.

BlaqFaze:
Which will result in offside

No. Mbappe was slightly behind him.

airmark:
The keeper was well off his line and the ball wasn't dead. He must be biting his nails each time he watches that moment.

The dude might never play in a world cup again. What a glorious opportunity.