rvp20182: It is...let breakdown..your financial & intermediation is twice kenya (but GDP wise you claim something else)...your trade, retail & wholesale is inferior to kenya in sophistication just like any other service sector...but you claim something else...your total gov budget (meaning gov services) is nearly equal to Kenya (but you claim something else as GDP)...your tourism (hotel, accomodation & related) is crap..but you claim something else..your transport sector..nothing to write home about. Your tech/telcoms is not as advanced as Kenya - just see the earnings MTN (your biggest co) are making out of Nigeria and compare it to Safaricom. Only Nollywood seem more superior to Kenya.
We've debunked your primary (agriculturue, minning) & secondary (manufacturing-outside Cement) - so kindly shows us this Nigeria service sector.
Good! Thank God you agreed. Your service sector account for 64% of your GDP of about 170b dollars.
Now let us compare your Service sector with Nigeria's service sector.
Of course, I know you are a novice and a liar but I will give you the chance to redeem yourself.
I want a break down of the points you raised. Let us start with the financial and intermediation. Knowing fully well that we are still within the service sector methodology.
But before I proceed, I want us have an idea of what the service sector and give examples, so as to know what we are debating on.
This is example of Service sector.
The rule is simple. Just support your argument with verifiable source. That's all
Jonraid: Only 0.5 % of their population leaves below the poverty line.This is great than the figures you would get elsewhere in the continent! They used their resources well and have benefited from it much than NIgeria! What is Nigeria's % of people living below the poverty line? You know it!
Just30: hahahaha the funniest thing I've seen today cos Holistically, Nigeria is the worse performing African country. Nigeria is still getting the little things wrong.
But it is true. I know because I heard directly from Rawlings mouth in a conference in Ghana. Live and direct.
Jonraid: Algeria is a much better choice than Nigeria if you want to learn about oil and gas.Their standards are high and they reap good figures than the purported Africa's largest oil producer! They add value to their crude oil.This is achieved by exporting refined petroleum,ammonia and other products you can get from hydrocarbons.This are the guys we should partner with and the gov't made the right decision.Glad we have embassies in both countries!
How many Algerians have benefited from oil? I want to know the indigenous companies operating oil fields in Algeria.
68816419: ll, the very truth is nairobi can only defeat lagos in greening and nothing else, when both CBDs are removed from the equations, Lagos wins hands down, the reasons been that , nairobi development are all situated at the CBD and adjoining upper hill Ares, and this so called upper hill have bad infrastructure(bad roads, no drainage, no good master plans) and this tells you that Kenyans can never build any planned city from scratch. Aside that, even the so called " developed" areas are too small to be compared with Lagos developed areas . In lagos, development are well spreads across different locations you could go to Ikeja VI, Apapa, festac, lekki and other places and find that these areas have the feeling of a "City" and not just as an areas, these places (not the CBDs) are planned and could actually be compared with other Africa capital city cause of their sizes and contents . I know Kenya in an out as i was parts of IT experts that were contracted for some projects across the country. I can tell you that lagos have superior infrastructure not only in Nairobi but the whole of Kenya at large, lagos roads are wider, cleaner and one can't even compare the numbers of flyovers lagos has with the whole of kenya. And about other kenya cities(Nakuru, Mombasa, kisumu, eldoret...), they all have same issues, develop a small portion of the county, make it a CBD and then leave the 98% of other places out, you could compare Mombasa with states like Kaduna, Uyo, Benin and even with that, Nigeria States would still be better off, for the fact they have better roads network connectivity and have their development spreads across. In comparing Kaduna with Nakuru, even those the Small Nakuru CBD would win in the area of CBD development, Kaduna would still win in the aspects of general developments, kaduna have large towns such as Kaduna city,Zaria, kafancha and other area, but Nakuru and Mombasa only boast of their CBD ,it will be suicidal to compare any other Nigeria states , such as abuja, ph, Enugu, calabar, with any kenya county, these states have superior infrastructure, better roads networks, bigger towns within States or counties,larger economy, better future development prospect,better sports and recreational facilities. In generally speaking, Nigeria is more developed than Kenya, in terms of roads networks, planned and larger cities, more and better international airports,better economy, bigger tourisms prospect, better sports facilities,have more locals controls of resources and properties,very open to foreigners and does not care where u r from (imagine locals and foreigners working around with passports trying to avoids very corrupt police officials ). kenya have the advantage of having much more foreigners as local but I real don't see that as an advantage this bcs these guys leave far more better than the locals lastly, some kenya cities tends to be Eco friendlier than Nigeria and this could be attributed to better policies, the fact its generates large chunks of the country income and the fact that it has lesser population than Nigeria cites. 100% truth.
Huh, you mean Nairobi's CDB's are better than that of Lagos?
I know there is no single planned city in the whole of Kenya because I did the research myself.
From the pictures posted here, I agree the developed areas of Nairobi is too small compared with Lagos many planned and developed areas.
I agree Lagos road infrastructure is way too ahead for Nairobi based on the pictures posted here. The numbers of flyovers, bridges, cable bridge, wider roads are too much for Nairobi to build and even the whole country called Kenya. I agree.
I agree Nakuru and Mombasa CDBs are better planned than some cities here based on the pictures here and now that you confirmed it, I agree intoto.
Besides that, infrastructure wise, most Nigerians cities are better than Nakuru and Mombasa. I agree due to what I see here and now that you confirmed it, I agree intoto.
I agree with you on this, Nigeria is far far developed than Kenyan ×10. Now, you just confirmed the fact now.
I agree with you in every thing but that airport, me no gree ooo because Nairobi airport is way ahead of Lagos current airport. Lagos airport may become better after the extension is finished.
Maybe holistically speaking, we have more numbers of better international airports than Kenya. I agree.
Kur17: In other words Nigerian population are doing nothing productive, just sitting there waiting for oil proceeds...your redundant population is liability instead of being a blessing...
A rat for breakfast
Redundancy is only synonymous with Kenya.
Oil only adds 10% to our GDP. Our services sector is our biggest asset.
If don't know what is service sector, I can still help you with that.
Abu Dhabi alone produce more barrels of oil per day than Nigeria yet you are comparing with Emirates of Dubai who only has one city to develop and small population to feed. Huh?
gallivant: I guess you are not shocked when people say you are all crooks? Anything but the profits, right? That's why anarchy is tolerated in your society. Generators everywhere!
Kenyans are not left out. They are even doing better in the crooked things.
68816419: Garden City Mall London-based private equity firm Actis, through Actis Africa, came up with the idea to develop Garden City, an integrated residential, retail and office development. The mall will have over 400 apartments and 60,000 square metres of office space. Actis was created in 2004 as a spin-out from CDC Group, an international development institution run by the United Kingdom government. Actis invested Sh2.5 billion in GCM. Actis came to be in 2004, demerging from the Commonwealth Development Corporation (CDC).
Village Market An Iranian patriarch set foot in Kenya and his family was to later establish and run the iconic Village Market. Initially a ten-shop establishment when it was conceived by Hamed Ehsani and his brother Mehraz Ehsani in 1992, the Village Market has grown to accommodate 150 outlets on three levels, an outdoor food court and a health and fitness centre. Another expansion will see an additional 80 units added to the establishment, which was supposed to serve as a recreational and shopping experience in Gigiri, a hot diplomatic zone. The Tribe, an hotel run by the management, sits adjacent to the mall. The Tribe was designed by Mehraz
Sarit centre Opened in 1983, the Sarit Centre is undergoing refurbishment that will see 20,000 square feet added to the 50,000 square feet the shopping mall offers. It was the brainchild of Sobhagayachand Vidhu Shah and his friend Maneklal Rughani, who were running the Text Book Centre. The two got the idea of putting up a mall after Rughani visited the Brent Cross Shopping Centre in London. Said to handle an average of 25,000 visitors a day, Sarit Centre, located in Nairobi’s Westlands, has a 300-seater cinema, food courts and expo space able to accommodate 50 stands. Now a family-run business, the additional space is aimed at accommodating a surge in demand for retail space. A four-star hotel will also come up on the 12-acre property. Westgate shopping mall Operated by Westgate Shopping Mall Management, West gate Shopping Mall opened in 2007. With 350,000 square feet of retail space, the five-storey mall houses more than 90 stores, with Nakumatt Holdings and Planet Media Cinemas as its anchor tenants. Westgate is owned by Sony Holdings, a company with Israeli origins. Indeed, Westgate has a number of Israeli outlets. The mall was the scene of the horrific September 21, 2013 terror attack that left 68 people dead and more than 200 injured. According to Business Daily, Sony Holdings is owned by Alex Trachtenberg and Vishiali Madan. Last year, Sony Holdings lost a trade name battle against Japanese electronics giant Sony Corporation, bringing to an end the property developer’s bid to register ‘Sony’ as its exclusive trademark in Kenya, as reported by the local daily. In 2014, the management company hired IRG, an Israeli security company to provide security and train personnel operating in the mall. Popular with urbane consumer class as well as expatriates and diplomats, the mall re-opened on July 18, 2015, with about 90 per cent of previous tenants of Westgate retaining their leases
While Nigerians own almost all the malls in the country. ShopRite are just tenants.
Jonraid: Ask yourselves why South Africa has had it hard to break into the Kenyan market? All they can do is to seek partnerships(which are good) but not dominating their brands here.No big SA brands flood our markets like the case in Nigeria.From MTN,DSTV and Shoprite...Nigeria is well an extended section of SA!
Persian group owns 5 ShopRite in Nigeria.
Other malls are mostly owned by Nigerians, ShopRite is just a tenant.
Jonraid: Ask yourselves why South Africa has had it hard to break into the Kenyan market? All they can do is to seek partnerships(which are good) but not dominating their brands here.No big SA brands flood our markets like the case in Nigeria.From MTN,DSTV and Shoprite...Nigeria is well an extended section of SA!
All those South Africa's major shareholders are Nigerians.